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Starting Today, Google Chrome Will Show Warnings for Non-Logged SSL Certificates (bleepingcomputer.com)

Starting today, Google Chrome will show a full-page warning whenever users are accessing an HTTPS website that's using an SSL certificate that has not been logged in a public Certificate Transparency (CT) log. From a report: By doing so, Chrome becomes the first browser to implement support for the Certificate Transparency Log Policy. Other browser makers have also agreed to support this mechanism in the future, albeit they have not provided more details. This new policy was first proposed by Google engineers in 2016, and was scheduled to enter into effect in October 2017, but was later delayed for 2018.

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  1. Transparency doesn't mean what you think it means by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    Why in the FUCK would I register an SSL cert with Google? What kind of extortion crap is this?

    This is of course on top of a rather quiet HTTP Header that was introduced in October which these same browsers are honoring. It tells the browser to report SSL cert usage and doesn't appear to have any way to be turned off. I only found it by looking at Discord.

    My network. My browser. My choice. GTFO. Think it's long over due for certain tech companies in Silicon Valley to be labeled terrorist organizations.

  2. Re:Er, what about LetsEncrypt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Perhaps, on the other hand, without letsencrypt most of us would not have websites. The poor people of the world would be completely cut off from having their own website, that was not the dream of the internet.

    We cannot be putting restrictions that cut off chunks of the population because they do not meet our criteria, the internet and having your own website should be free and open to all.

    In the bad old days you could only get an SSL certificate if you were incorporated, provided your contact phone number, real name, address, and pay a hefty sum of money. This was completely unacceptable and went entirely against the whole point of the internet. With letsencrypt the playing field has been leveled and this is a good thing and it is keeping the internet operational in the hands of the people.

    Honestly though I am still of the opinion that we should completely eradicate centralized certificate authorities. The certificates should be there to provide encryption which they do whether they come from an authority or not. We should allow free self signed certificates with no warnings. I should not have to link myself up to some 3rd party of any kind to operate my website.

  3. Re:Another Google metadata sink? by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Also what about locally signed certificates, using a corporate or Intranet CA, that's installed on all computers that might use those certs?

    That was, at one point, considered a best practice, but I assume this'll break that.

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  4. Re:Another Google metadata sink? by Junta · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The CA model is particularly bad for 'internal' devices.

    So one, for internal communications inside a home network, the warning is so scary that some devices decline to support https just to avoid the support call because a web browser called the device 'insecure'. Note that https with bad cert is considered 'terribly insecure to the point of blocking the site' and http without any cert whatsoever is 'ok'. Home networks are not going to go through the rigmarole of all this.

    For another, my internal IT department is given the ability to sign a certificate for *any* site I visit to provide support for internal devices. I am not empowered as a user to elect to impose my own nameConstraints as I import the certificate, so to secure access to router.internal.mycompany.com, I give them access to impersonate my.bank.com

    Even when the IT department has ability to sign certificates, either it's going to be uselessly lax (automatic granting of certs for whatever reason) or impractically difficult (every sign requires tedious interactions). Companies are terrible about implementing the right balance internally.

    Assuming you overcame all this, you *still* will get a warning, because that internal IT department isn't going to have it registered in a CT log. If they *do*, then others can audit that log to discern details about their network and they have *another* class of security problem to tackle. Or chrome is deployed with a policy to disable this feature for the sake of the internal devices, *again* coming back to fixing internal network behavior requiring reducing security for the wider internet.

    The problem is that roughly all discussions on this front focus on the typical 'internet' usage and fail to conceive of approaches that would make sense for internal networks.

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