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Placing Election Ads On Google Will Require a Government ID (gizmodo.com)

Google announced new policies Friday that will require advertisers to prove they are a U.S. citizen or permanent resident when buying election ads. "Under the new guidelines, Google will ask advertisers -- be they individuals, organizations, or political action committees -- to prove they are who they claim to be," reports Gizmodo. "It will also require the ads to include a clear disclosure of who is paying for it." From the report: The change comes after Google and other social media companies revealed their advertising platforms were abused by foreign actors, including the Russian government-backed troll farm Internet Research Agency, during the 2016 U.S. presidential election. It also places Google's policies in line with U.S. laws for traditional media that restrict foreign entities from running election ads. Where Google's effort falls short, at least in its current iteration, is the new policies only cover ads featuring candidates running for office. So-called "issue ads" that advocate a certain point of view on hot-button topics are not covered in Google's policies.

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  1. Unpossible to bypass! by ErikTheRed · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, because if there's one thing foreign intelligence organizations are totally incapable of and stymied by, it's creating a fake ID.

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  2. Shouldn't You ID Yourself When Buying ANY Ad? by dryriver · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you are advertising a product or service of any kind online, and making "promises" as to the "benefits" of throwing your "real world money" at it will have for you, shouldn't there be a solid record - a name, an ID number, a contact email and phone number, a valid business or personal address - of who the hell you are? If it is possible to buy online advertising anonymously - no ID of any kind required, just transfer some money somehow - you just made life super-easy for any kind of scammer selling any kind of scam online, whether political, or financial, or otherwise. So in my view, the verified ID information of SOMEONE who is behind the ad in question should be there, and it should be possible to QUERY that information as well. If I, as a person, am being subjected to hundreds of unwanted ads a day, some legit, some scams, shouldn't I have the right to be able to lookup who placed the ad? You're putting YOUR ad in MY webbrowser after all. Why wouldn't I be able to look up who placed or paid for the ad with a simple click?

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  3. Re:Surprised it wasn't already a requirement by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can't wait to see how some people slam this new regulation as an attack on the free speech of Russians...

    I'm not going to slam this as I believe that Google is free to do as it likes as a private company, but what I will say is that I find it humorous that the people most likely to be in favor of this move are probably also the same people who are most likely to disapprove of any laws requiring a valid government ID to actually vote in an election.

  4. Re:Surprised it wasn't already a requirement by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Unfortunately, they can still *vote* in many areas, legally or not, and many proposals to require ID have been rejected.

    Yeah, except no. It doesn't happen. In fact, Trump disbanded his "election fraud" commission because after a year of work they couldn't find election fraud at any level higher than infinitesimal number of instances where some Republican in Texas tried to vote twice. That, and because the guy who Trump picked to head his "election fraud" commission has his own legal troubles.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/0...

    https://www.reuters.com/articl...
     

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  5. Re:Surprised it wasn't already a requirement by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Make the IDs free, quick, and easily replaced, and you'd see more motion in this regard, but you don't. There's always a cost for IDs for some reason and when you put a cost on anything,

    It's not just the cost. In Texas, as soon as they passed voter ID laws, they closed a bunch of the State Safety offices where you obtain a state ID. But just in the minority areas of course.

    State voter ID laws always come as part of a suite of new laws designed to disenfranchise people who might not vote Republican.

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  6. Re:Surprised it wasn't already a requirement by superwiz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'll be the 1st. This does not attack the free speech of Russians. But attacking free speech of Russians in general is not better than attacking free speech of US citizens in particular. Free speech is afforded to all persons -- not all citizens. It is one of the moment important tenants of our society. And it is far, far, far better to allow speech to more people than to restrict in a way which does not allow trolls to troll. Hate speech should be legal. Offensive speech must be legal. Political speech should be legal for all (even for convicted felons). And if you don't like it, you are the one trying to undermine our Democracy.

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  7. Re:Surprised it wasn't already a requirement by king+neckbeard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because voter impersonation is mathematically the dumbest way to rig an election. It's high risk for low reward, and the risk grows exponentially, so you couldn't rig an election for dogcatcher without getting caught. Any other method, including legitimate campaigns, would be a much more effective strategy.

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  8. Re: Surprised it wasn't already a requirement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Did he ever say First Amendment? Repeat after me: the first amendment is not free speech, free speech is not the first amendment. The first amendment enshrines free speech in the Constitution; but the concept of free speech exists independently of the First Amendment.

  9. Re:Surprised it wasn't already a requirement by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "There's no vote fraud!"

    Again, BULLSHIT. How can you tell if there's vote fraud if you don't ID the voter? You can't.

    Republicans know there is voter fraud. In the first person. https://www.denverpost.com/201...

    http://occupydemocrats.com/201...

    http://www.bradblog.com/?p=946...

    http://nhpr.org/post/mancheste...

    https://www.arktimes.com/arkan...

    http://archive.jsonline.com/ne...

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2012/0...

    Yesiree, Republicans know full well that there is voter fraud, and that is because so much Votter Fraud is performed by Republicans - highly ranked ones even - And your wet dream of a voter ID is going to do nothing, not one thing but eliminate a trite old chestnut of a talking point.

    Personally, I'm in favor of voter ID - but given that Republicans bring it up every election cycle like it is the cure blessed by God himself for them thar godless commiecrats and their letting them chocolate people - who always commit fraud, amirite? - is just Bullshit - to use your term.

    Phase it in, make it free ( hey, maybe we can get that Russian Oligarch who funnels money to Republicans through the NRA to chip in ) and start long before elections.

    But how is that going to actually stop Republican election fraud? Or is that Okay because the Republican party has shown it has a lock on the moral high ground?

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