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Alan Turing's Chemistry Hypothesis Turned Into a Desalination Filter (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Alan Turing is rightly famed for his contributions to computer science. But one of his key concepts -- an autonomous system that can generate complex behavior from a few simple rules -- also has applications in unexpected places, like animal behavior. One area where Turing himself applied the concept is in chemistry, and he published a paper describing how a single chemical reaction could create complex patterns like stripes if certain conditions are met. It took us decades to figure out how to actually implement Turing's ideas about chemistry, but we've managed to create a number of reactions that display the behaviors he described. And now, a team of Chinese researchers has figured out how to use them to make something practical: a highly efficient desalination membrane.

To make this a true Turing-style system, the researchers dissolved a large molecule in water. This had the effect of making the water more viscous, which slowed the diffusion of the activator. In addition, the molecule was chosen so that the activator would stick to it, slowing things down even further. The end result was a system similar to the ones defined over a half-century ago. Imaging of the features show that rather than simply thickening the membrane, the membrane retained the same width in these areas; instead, it bulged out to form the structures. That's critical, as the amount of surface area exposed to a salt solution should influence how much water gets through the membrane. In fact, the researchers confirmed that more water was purified when the new membranes were used (the version with the stripes outperformed the dotted one). Unfortunately, the researchers don't compare this system to commercially available membranes.
The report has been published in the journal Science.

38 comments

  1. Working on a micro scale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    the researchers dissolved a large molecule in water

    Just one? Was this a study of homeopathy?

    1. Re: Working on a micro scale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was a very large molecule.

    2. Re:Working on a micro scale by piojo · · Score: 1

      the researchers dissolved a large molecule in water

      Just one? Was this a study of homeopathy?

      An atom is to an element as a molecule is to... ?

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    3. Re: Working on a micro scale by umghhh · · Score: 1

      yes it was huuuuuuuge and it was mine!

    4. Re: Working on a micro scale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean Uuuuuuge?

    5. Re:Working on a micro scale by plopez · · Score: 2

      You can't steal it if it was published in a public scientific journal. That's what publicly publishing is for, spreading information around without encumbrances. Sort of like open source...

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    6. Re: Working on a micro scale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes it was huuuuuuuge and it was mine!

      Was it uuuuge enough to build a wall from?

      - sad.

    7. Re:Working on a micro scale by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A chemical substance. Also shortened to a chemical.

    8. Re:Working on a micro scale by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1, Funny

      a place filled with IP theives and content pirates

      And if you thought content pirates were bad, wait for pissed-off pirates!

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    9. Re: Working on a micro scale by rogoshen1 · · Score: 0

      UUUU

  2. Inscrutable summary by mpoulton · · Score: 2

    Hey, I wonder if someone who actually understood what they were reading could redo this summary so humans can interpret it? Maybe somebody with a tiny bit of technical background, who knows even generally what these guys are up to. That would be nice.

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    1. Re:Inscrutable summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Turing structures arise when imbalances in diffusion rates make a stable steady-state system sensitive to small heterogeneous perturbations. For example, Turing patterns occur in chemical reactions when a fast-moving inhibitor controls the motion of a slower-moving activator. Tan et al. grew polyamide membranes by using interfacial polymerization, where the reactions occur at the interface between oil and water layers. The addition of polyvinyl alcohol to the aqueous phase reduced the diffusion of the monomer. This process generates membranes with more bumps, voids, and islands, which prove to be better for water desalination.

    2. Re:Inscrutable summary by piojo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If you create a polymer where the reaction is restricted to the boundary between an oil and water (where one side is flowy and the other is viscous), it will form a regular sheet with "line" regions where the polymer is irregular. It turns out the lines formed are "baggy", like the stretch marks on a balloon after it deflates. This increases the total surface area, which should be great for making water filter membranes.

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    3. Re:Inscrutable summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perfect. Thanks!

    4. Re:Inscrutable summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See the graphic in the linked Ars Technica article.

  3. Like a random number generator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "...how a single chemical reaction could create complex patterns like stripes if certain conditions are met."

    This describes a random number generator: a single seed, from which a long string of seed-like numbers are generated by an algorithm. With the right type of algorithm, stripes are created in the pattern of output, because certain RNG algorithms are flawed in the way they create patterns.

    Think of the RNG as a chain of chemical reactions starting from a single chemical reaction.

    As in the effect of brownian motion, seeds are generated by the RNG all over the pattern's n-dimensional space in a seemingly random fashion, but in fact, holes are created in the resulting pattern, from which stripes emerge.

  4. Show me the money by n0w0rries · · Score: 0

    As the owner/operator of a RO water maker on a cruising yacht, it would be nice if we could actually see some new tech come from all these advances. Now I barely take notice because all they say is blah blah blah and yet we never see any new water makers that use any new tech. They all require 800 psi, expensive high pressure pumps, and expensive membranes. Save the world and improve water makers already!

    1. Re:Show me the money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They all require 800 psi, expensive high pressure pumps, and expensive membranes.

      I'm afraid if you're looking for sympathy on the costs of running your cruising yacht ... you're not going to get it.

      Getting poor people access to clean water is great, but I'm afraid the yacht set and their worries I just can't muster up giving a damn about.

    2. Re:Show me the money by ebrandsberg · · Score: 0

      The yacht set may may help pay for the research that trickles down to the masses. It is somewhat like the Apollo program. Don't confuse this with "trickle down economics" though, that is just Voodoo.

    3. Re: Show me the money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this is an incremental improvement in membrane fabrication that may enable higher flowrates with less membrane but will have little impact on the operating conditions or expense of running your personal reverse osmosis system on your freaking yatch

    4. Re:Show me the money by rogoshen1 · · Score: 0

      billionaires are among the most oppressed, discriminated against, and bullied people on the face of planet. How insensitive can one person possibly be towards the plight of these unfortunate souls?

      Wiping away tears with bearer bonds just leads to paper cuts, and more tears.

  5. Re:Inscrutable summary. Source code for simulaton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Quite a few years ago I wrote an article about Turing's Reaction-Diffusion system on Dr.Dobbs Journal.
    it is still available online for anyone interested:

    http://www.drdobbs.com/cpp/algorithm-alley/184410024?queryText=Rafael%2BCollantes
    http://www.drdobbs.com/windows/letters/184410223

  6. Re:where are the whinney Trump supporters by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 0

    The desalinization filter removed them from the news feed.

  7. Re:Roses are red by hey! · · Score: 4, Interesting

    During the Industrial Revolution, patents were only national in scope. It was normal for everyone to "steal" patented inventions from other countries... so normal it was pretty common to copy patented inventions from your own country too. The system couldn't keep up with the sheer volume of infringement.

    Of course today we have large and formidable law firms that specialize in international IP law. We have databases and search engines that make it feasible to run a patent troll firm on a shoestring.

    During the Cultural Revolution (1966-1976), China attempted to industrialize with things like back yard steel mills operated by collectives of people with no actual expertise in metallurgy. It's the kind of thing only an armchair philosopher could think feasible. From there, China took the proven path from near-medieval conditions to industrial supremacy: copying ideas. And since they're a sovereign nation, there's nothing anyone outside can do to stop them. You can only persuade.

    One difference between China and the US in the early 21st Century is that China is still governed with its national interests paramount across the board. China's sole aim has been to increase its national economic power and prestige, and it's been highly successful. The US, on the other hand, while remaining firmly nationalistic in military affairs, has adopted a kind of internationalism as the establishment political position in economic affairs. In simple terms, it could be stated this way: what's economically best for nations collectively is economically best for the US. And, in fact, if you don't look too closely, that's worked out pretty well too.

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  8. Do you know what this means? by Provocateur · · Score: 0

    Doctor Flamond: Do you realize what that could mean to the starving nations of the earth?

    Nick: Wow. They'd have enough salt to last forever.

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  9. Not Desal by h4x0t · · Score: 1

    They get no rejection of monovalents. This is a nanofilter.
    But the fluxes are crazy high.

    1. Re:Not Desal by h4x0t · · Score: 1

      Side note:
      If I were to use this for my nano filtration applications, it would gyp out in a heart-beat. A flux of 120lmh would create a localized CaSO4 concentration beyond reason. (note they did not show any results for CaSO4 in any concentration)