Police Drop Charges Filed Against 19-Year-Old Archivist For Downloading FOIA Releases (techdirt.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report form Techdirt: Last month, [...] an unnamed 19-year-old was facing criminal charges for downloading publicly-available documents from a government Freedom of Information portal. The teen had written a script to fetch all available documents from the Nova Scotia's government FOI site -- a script that did nothing more than increment digits at the end of the URL to find everything that had been uploaded by the government. The government screwed up. It uploaded documents to the publicly-accessible server that hadn't been redacted yet. It was a very small percentage of the total haul -- 250 of the 7,000 docs obtained -- but the government made a very big deal out of it after discovering they had been accessed.
Fortunately, Nova Scotia law enforcement has decided there's nothing to pursue in this case: "In an email to CBC News, Halifax police Supt. Jim Perrin did not mention what kind of information police were given from the province, but he said it was a 'high-profile case that potentially impacted many Nova Scotians.' 'As the investigation evolved, we have determined that the 19-year-old who was arrested on April 11 did not have intent to commit a criminal offense by accessing the information,' Perrin said in the email."
Fortunately, Nova Scotia law enforcement has decided there's nothing to pursue in this case: "In an email to CBC News, Halifax police Supt. Jim Perrin did not mention what kind of information police were given from the province, but he said it was a 'high-profile case that potentially impacted many Nova Scotians.' 'As the investigation evolved, we have determined that the 19-year-old who was arrested on April 11 did not have intent to commit a criminal offense by accessing the information,' Perrin said in the email."
His hard drives contain sensitive info that may preclude him from ever getting them back.
Hopefully his other family members get their computers back.
Who the hell cares about his intent? He downloaded information mistakenly posted to a publicly available system. Unless he's trying to sell state secrets to the Russians, which still doesn't criminalize the act of downloading the stuff, there's absolutely nothing he's done wrong. To say otherwise is to say you can criminalize viewing information that the government posts on billboards by the highway if the government mistakenly puts up the wrong information on the billboards.
Maybe in China.
-- "Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
If it's on a public facing server it's "fair game", whether it's supposed to be or not.
:-), but not for a second time. (And can you imagine -- the police arresting you just for accessing a public website?)
..." law?
And "did not have intent to commit a criminal offense" -- maybe this is just in the US, but I thought that "ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law." If he broke a law, let's have him and the law he broke. If not, let him go -- and then let's update all the knowledge of the people who thought he did so this doesn't happen again. (Tech AND Legal.)
I don't necessarily mind misteaks
Sounds like he broke the law: "I don't like what you're doing." Where is that one written down anywhere? Or is this the "Nice place you've got here, shame if something
If the universe is someone's simulation -- does that mean the stars are just stuck pixels?
People that can use computers gets punished for the mistakes made by people that can't use computers...
Reality is just like working in IT.
Intent is an important part of many laws.
This. Not only intent, but also discretion. As a practical matter, we've known for centuries that democracies overcriminalize because it is in the interests of legislators to never be blamed for letting a bad person out of jail. Thus the justice system depends on the discretion of police officers not to punish every innocent mistake and the discretion of prosecutors not to prosecute when it's too counterproductive or unfair. This doesn't always work, of course, but it's a huge part of criminal justice.
Intent is also critical. Most crimes have a "mens rea" and an "actus rea," basically the criminal intent and the criminal act. So if I take your laptop knowing it's yours, that's theft, but if I mistake your laptop for mine, my mistake of fact (i.e. I thought it was my laptop) negates the criminal intent part of the crime, so I haven't committed theft. (YMMV in practice, since a police officer or a prosecutor or a jury has to believe me.)
Of course, intent in law frequently means intent to do the thing, rather than intent to do the thing with an evil motive. So talking about classified documents may be a crime even if the government accidentally mails them to you or they are published in the Times, but no reasonable prosecutor is likely to go after you for that unless something else pretty bad is going on. That's where discretion comes in.
(And yes, obviously there are first amendment limitations that could come up, which would be balanced by a court against national security interests.)
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maybe this is just in the US, but I thought that "ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law."
It depends on precisely what you are ignorant of. "ignorance of the law is no excuse" is usually how it's phrased, IIRC, which strikes closer to the truth because it's about being ignorant of *the law*, not ignorant of *the facts*.
Generally in criminal law (at least in the US), a mistake of law ("I did not think it was illegal to do X") will not excuse a crime, but a mistake of fact ("I did not think I was doing X") can sometimes negate a required element of the crime. So if you take a pen knowing it belongs to someone else you are committing a crime (albeit a small one), but if you take a pen because you confused it with your pen you are generally innocent (unless nobody believes you because you have a habit of stealing pens). It depends on what the specific elements of the crime are, which vary a bit from state to state.
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Whether you choose to accept it or not, the NRA represents a significant block of grassroots voters. It is entirely funded by its members and represents a large voting block.
Good-bye
Why is noone interested in why the non-redacted data was there publicly available in the first place? It seems a far more relevant topic to me than whether or not someone accessing it is in the right or wrond. If anyone should be sanctioned, it should be those people or the agency which publicized the private data to begin with.
Dilbert. http://dilbert.com/strip/2018-05-09
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Narrator: Dogbert The Reporter. Dogbert: How did hackers get access to your customer data? CEO: I'm told they used something called "our A.P.I." to suck out all the data. Dogbert: I'll just say you'er stupid. CEO: Why does everyone always say that?
Whether you choose to accept it or not, the NRA represents a significant block of grassroots voters.
The NRA represents gun industry interests under the guise of pretending to be a grassroots interest organization. This didn't used to be true but it is unquestionably true today. While it is true that there is a large block of voters who are members and who care strongly about 2nd amendment rights, the NRA is only indirectly represents their voice on the issue at this point. The organization has been co-opted by corporations to advocate primarily for them. Whether you think this is a good or bad thing I leave up to you but don't be mislead into misunderstanding where the money in the NRA comes from or what strings are attached.
It is entirely funded by its members and represents a large voting block.
The NRA is decidedly NOT "entirely funded by its members". Significantly less than half of the NRA's money comes from program fees and membership dues. This is not conjecture - it is a known fact. Most of the NRA revenue comes from corporations with financial interests in selling firearms and related products. The NRA is de-facto the lobbying organization for the gun industry. It hasn't been a grassroots organization for several decades though it pretends to be one as there is political value in maintaining that fig leaf of a lie. Sort of like the NCAA pretending to care about "amateurism" and "student athletes" while they rake in literally billions in revenue for the colleges.