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Google Employees Resign in Protest Against Pentagon Contract (gizmodo.com)

Kate Conger, reporting for Gizmodo: It's been nearly three months since many Google employees -- and the public -- learned about the company's decision to provide artificial intelligence to a controversial military pilot program known as Project Maven, which aims to speed up analysis of drone footage by automatically classifying images of objects and people. Now, about a dozen Google employees are resigning in protest over the company's continued involvement in Maven.

The resigning employees' frustrations range from particular ethical concerns over the use of artificial intelligence in drone warfare to broader worries about Google's political decisions -- and the erosion of user trust that could result from these actions. Many of them have written accounts of their decisions to leave the company, and their stories have been gathered and shared in an internal document, the contents of which multiple sources have described to Gizmodo.

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  1. Re:Have we passed Peak Google? by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google is an advertising company. DuckDuckGo is a search service.

  2. Re:Of course by WoodstockJeff · · Score: 5, Informative

    > We're talking about AI being used to control drones.

    No, we're talking about AI being used for analysis of the data provided by those drones. To weed through the thousands of hours of pictures to make it easier for humans to make decisions. At least, that was the original story that caused these people to promise to resign if it happened.

    It's stuff these people were already developing AI to do - just a different user base. Rather than delivery targeted advertising, it might be something else targeting them.

  3. Re:Better just to kill everyone? by Sarten-X · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is still a human there. Maven is just an object-recognition system, that highlights objects in (usually low-resolution) drone video feeds. For example, it'll identify whether the 20-pixel object in the back of a pickup truck is actually a goat or a machine gun. It's still a human who decides whether to actually launch an attack or not.

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  4. Re:Google branching out.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    In this day and age it's not hard to actually read the Constitution. There's no excuse for your particular ignorance.
    The only thing in the Constitution that has anything in common with your claim is in Article I Section 2 clause 3, forbidding the states to do that without the consent of Congress.
    Article I Section 8 clauses 12-13 grant Congress the powers to raise and support Armies, and to provide and maintain a Navy.
    Article II Section 2 clause 1 declares the President to be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy.

    I sympathize with the criticism that the federal government has far exceeded its constitutionally-granted powers, but a standing military ain't it.

  5. Standard intelligence policy actually by foxalopex · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's interesting that this is actually standard practice when it comes to intelligence or military applications. You're told when you sign up for any intelligence position is that if you have a moral issue, you first take it up with your superior, if that isn't satisfactory then you resign. It's also a difficult call too, imagine how many scientists felt during the development of the nuclear bomb.

  6. Re: Of course by c6gunner · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's pretty much what already happens. Drone operators are told "we have a report of a training camp holding a meeting here... go find it". Then the op flies around looking for a meeting, sees a bunch of gathered people, and with no indication to the contrary, command orders the strike. The idea that it might be a wedding never crosses anyone's mind.

    No. There are personnel separate from the drone operator who analyze the footage and advise on whether or not to engage. Video analysis is their only job, and they undergo specialized training and assessment using footage of previous missions to ensure that they're not just going to randomly blow up whatever they see.

  7. Re:Of course by Nidi62 · · Score: 1, Informative

    supporting and approving apartheid

    The state of israel goes of of their way to accommodate their sensibilities by making army duty non-compulsory for Arabs (they are the only ones exempt from draft).

    Because they know they won't heavy-handedly oppress the Palestinians like the Jewish soldiers do. An Israeli soldier just got out of jail after only a year for shooting a wounded, already handcuffed Palestinian teenager in the head on camera! And let's not forget using live ammunition on children throwing rocks at armored vehicles.

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  8. What a bunch of projection by Uberbah · · Score: 3, Informative

    No one does what the U.S. does. Russia, China, bumbfuckistan don't have a drone murder program blowing up innocent people for completely bullshit reasons. And the terrorist countries that come the closest to doing so, Saudi Arabia and Israel, are your buddies using your weapons.

    You even know that the entire defense budget of Russia is half the size of the last increase to the American Imperial budget? We're talking 45 billion dollars a year next to over a trillion.