California Study To Examine the Influence of a Healthy Diet On Patients (nytimes.com)

"According to The New York Times, the state of California is funding an experiment through The Ceres Community Project to test the influence of a healthy diet on the recovery of state Medicaid patients with long-term serious illnesses," writes Slashdot reader MonteCarloMethod. From the report: Over the next three years, researchers from the University of California, San Francisco, and Stanford will assess whether providing 1,000 patients who have congestive heart failure or Type 2 diabetes with a healthier diet and nutrition education affects hospital readmissions and referrals to long-term care, compared with 4,000 similar Medi-Cal patients who don't get the food.

The California study will build on more modest and less rigorous earlier research. A study in Philadelphia by the Metropolitan Area Neighborhood Nutrition Alliance retroactively compared health insurance claims for 65 chronically ill Medicaid patients who received six months' of medically tailored meals with a control group. The patients who got the food racked up about $12,000 less a month in medical expenses. Another small study by researchers at U.C.S.F. tracked patients with H.I.V. and Type 2 diabetes who got special meals for six months to see if it would positively affect their health. The researchers found they were less depressed, less likely to make trade-offs between food and health care, and more likely to stick with their medications.

Comments

Food

[phantomfive]

Food is not an easy thing to get a handle on.

Re:Food

[cayenne8]

Actually...I"m wondering, for this study, what exactly their definition of "Health Diet" will be???

If it is the same shit following the US food pyramid, full of grains, carbs and low fat, I can guess they're likely NOT going to get that pleasant of an outcome.

If they go mostly all veggies and non-processed foods, they'll see a lot of improvement, but I think they should also try different groups in different considerations of "healthy" diets....Mediterranean type, kept/low carb types, vegetarian......etc

I think not only would they show eating better helps health, but also, what is the best form of "Healthy" diet?

Re:Food

[b0s0z0ku]

Good food is cheap if you cook it yourself. Big bag of salad greens: $2. Big bag of tomatoes: $4. Cheese $3. Onion $1. Pepper $2. $12 + oil/vinegar gives you salad for approximately a week, even in an expensive area like NYC. Chicken/fish aren't expensive, nor are rice, potatoes, or greens. You can eat well for less than fast food costs every day if you know how to cook half decently.

I'm guessing this has less to do with healthy food

[rsilvergun]

and more to do with 6 months of not worrying whether you get to eat or not. The part that got me was this:

"less likely to make trade-offs between food and health care"

Seriously nuts that this is a thing, but that's America's healthcare system.

OTOH if I want to have a bit of libtard fun I like to ask my right wing friends/acquaintances if healthcare is a right or not try to make them answer yes or no. After 5-10 minutes of speeches and heming and hawing they'll either say 'no' or admit we ought to have a national healthcare system.

Re:I'm guessing this has less to do with healthy f

[El Cubano]

OTOH if I want to have a bit of libtard fun I like to ask my right wing friends/acquaintances if healthcare is a right or not try to make them answer yes or no. After 5-10 minutes of speeches and heming and hawing they'll either say 'no' or admit we ought to have a national healthcare system.

Well, that's easy: no, healthcare is not a right. No hemming and hawing required.

If you read the US Constitution and its amendments the only constitutionally guaranteed access to the labor and/or services of another individual is described in the sixth amendment: the right to assistance of defense counsel. (Some argue that by extension judges and others involved in the justice system as well.)

There is a reason for that. One of the founding ideals of the United States of America is rugged individualism. While the main text of the Constitution is focused on the structure and functioning of the governmnet, the amendments 1-9 are all about protecting indivudual liberties, while the 10th is partially about individual liberties and partially about states' rights.

Now, there is freedom of association in the USA. So if you prefer a collectivist approach to healthcare, you are more than welcome form your own coop, insurance company, charity hospital, or whatever, and get busy with convincing others to join you.

But, keep in mind that a national healthcare system with compulsory participation flies in the face of the principles upon which the Republic was founded. At a minimum for such a thing to be implemented, I think it would require a constitutional amendment. That is how fundamentally it affects the fabric of our society.

Re: I'm guessing this has less to do with healthy

[c6gunner]

You think they spent $50 trillion on two wars?

Someone's been hitting the medical marijuana.

Re:I'm guessing this has less to do with healthy f

[another_twilight]

You pay one way or another.

You can pay for emergency treatment when people can't afford to visit a doctor for anything less than life-threatening emergencies, by which time a condition that could have been treated cheaply and with a better patient outcome is now an expensive, risk laden venture with poor prognosis. Worse, it's tying up a system that would be better serving emergencies that couldn't be anticipated or treated.

You can try to make emergency services a user pays proposition, but then you risk increasing the wealth inequality even further, increasing crime and you pay for police, a slower legal system and increased prisons, not to mention having a growing population that are in poor health creating a pool for infectious disease.

Maybe the math doesn't perfectly balance. It's hard to put a dollar value on quality of life and engagement with the social contract, but most other first world/OECD countries achieve better health outcomes for more people, for less money and lower cost to most citizens than the US. Using some flavour of nationalised health care.

There are some things that are terrible when government run, just as there are some things you don't want to let people profit from. Health care is one of the latter.

Re:I'm guessing this has less to do with healthy f

[b0s0z0ku]

But paying taxes for military homicide sprees in the Middle East and to lock up 1% of the American population obviously is a right. Got to love the good 'ol US of Ay!

Do what thou wilt

[rsilvergun]

shall be the whole of the law. As long as you're willing to admit you're in favor of Dog eat Dog capitalism that's something I can work with. Very, very few people are willing to admit it because, well, it's been shown repeatably that it ends horribly for all but a lucky few (the .01%, the robber barrons, monarchs, facists, whatever you want to call them they're the same all throughout history).

I actually prefer guys like you. Because 95% of us know your ideas are just plain wrong. Which is exactly why so few right wingers will admit to them. Especially in person. After all, it's easy to say "Let 'em die" on the internet. Not so much when you're face to face with somebody actually dying.

And if you want to know why you're wrong (and you're open to figuring things out) start by googling "Wallet Biopsy".

Cooking for 1 is a hassle, more expensive. Buy hea

[raymorris]

Another thing is that the value proposition, in time and money, isn't as good cooking for one person as it is cooking for a family. If I get a hankering for a sandwich, I need to buy a LOAF of bread, a HEAD of lettuce, a package of cheese, etc. The bottle of mayo will go bad before I use 1/4 of it. Then take the time cutting the vegetables and such. All for one sandwich. Subway starts to look like a reasonable option.

If a family of four wants sandwiches, it's still a loaf of bread, a head of lettuce, etc to feed all four people. That's a better value proposition.

I probably could plan out different meals a week ahead to use up that whole red onion, which I got to put 1/16th of it on my sandwich. It's a bit of a hassle, though.

I'm glad to see that restaurants, even fast food places, are slowly starting to offer healthier options.