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Comcast Charges $90 Install Fee At Homes That Already Have Comcast Installed (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Based on our tests, signing up for standalone Internet or TV service on Comcast.com often requires payment of a $59.99 or $89.99 installation fee, depending on where you live. (The fee was $60 in two Massachusetts suburbs and $90 at homes in Houston, Texas, and Seattle, Washington.) In cases where the $60 or $90 fee is charged, the fee is required whether you purchase your own modem or rent one from Comcast for another $11 a month.

The installation fee might be charged even if the home you're buying service at has existing Comcast service, and even if you order Internet speeds lower than those purchased by the current occupant. That means the fee is charged even when Comcast doesn't have to make any upgrades at the house or apartment you're moving into. Internet speed makes no difference, as the fee may be charged whether you purchase 15Mbps downloads or gigabit service. You can avoid the installation fee by purchasing certain bundles that include both TV and Internet, but the fee is often mandatory if you buy only TV service or broadband individually. The $60 or $90 fee is also charged when you buy phone service only or a "double-play" package of phone service and broadband.

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  1. Monopolies, yay! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Gonna rape you now!

  2. They do this because.... by Tangential · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They do this because.they.can.

    --
    Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But then I repeat myself. -- Mark Twain
    1. Re:They do this because.... by Solandri · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And they can only because your local government granted them a monopoly. The cable companies aren't natural monopolies. Your local government gave them the power they enjoy to screw you over.

      When I lived in the outskirts of Boston, my city voted to allow a second cable company to provide service. The day before the competing service became available to customers, the original cable company dropped the prices for all their Internet plans by $10/mo, implemented a 50% speed increase across the board at no charge, eliminated all installation and service change fees, and switched from requiring a multi-year subscription to month-to-month after just 6 months.

      You don't need to wait for net neutrality legislation or court decisions, which could take decades, if it ever happens at all. All you need is to convince your local city council to vote to introduce competition, by allowing a second (or even third) cable company to provide service. They created this mess, they can fix it.

  3. Re:service initiation fee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I recently moved. None of those had an initiation fee for me. The only one which would have had a fee was phone, which I couldn't care less about because I don't have an landline anymore.

    Stop being an apologist.

  4. Re:service initiation fee by viperidaenz · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've never been charged an initiation fee for power, water, phone, internet or trash.
    The closest think I've had to pay is a refundable bond for power when I was younger. Understandable as I had never had a power service before and it's paid in arrears for actual power used.
    Sometimes internet/phone packages come with minimum 12 or 24 month terms, but those usually give you something in return, like free modem or discounted monthly fee. Upgrading to fibre cost me a 24 month term, but in return I got free install, including connecting the fibre to my home and a termination device. Also got a free router to handle the gigabit connection that retails for over $200.

    Things are much better when wholesale is separated from retail, breaking the monopoly and eliminating the capital required for competitors. I could have bought my internet service from literally dozens of providers.

  5. TW tried this on me once. by MrLint · · Score: 4, Informative

    So my landlady died, and her son (my boss at the time) took over. And all I wanted to do was to change the billing name. TW tried to tell me i had to pony up like $60 for a (something), and then tried to claim it was a state law. Of course that was a full on lie and I called the NY PSC and they straightend that out. This suprises me not at all.

  6. This is easy to avoid... by FuegoFuerte · · Score: 5, Interesting

    First, never sign up for a Comcast service online, ever. Always call or go to a store location.

    Second, when they bring up the installation fee, say "no, this is going to be a self-install, and I already have cable from the curb to my house, and I know it's already connected in the box. I don't need anyone to come out."

    The $90 fee is supposed to cover the guy coming out to the curb to connect your particular cable to the splitter hanging off the main line in the distribution box. If you don't already have that cable connected (even if your house is wired for cable), you really do need the guy to come out (unless you know how to open the box, and which cable is yours, and you have the tool to reach in the security collar to connect it... and I don't advise telling Comcast if you do have all those things). If you're the type who likes to open your own cable box and connect your house, I would do that first, and then simply tell Comcast that you know it's already connected (maybe you asked the Comcast guy to confirm it when he was out hooking up your neighbor's cable... *wink*).

    They'll waive it pretty easily if you can convince them you know your stuff and don't need a guy to come out. If you fail the first time, talk to a different person or ask for a super. They'll get it done, and be a lot more competent about it than CenturyLink.

  7. Re:Then don't subscribe to Comcast. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That would be great if it were possible, but in much of the US there's only 1 broadband option. For many people, subscribing to another provider would require moving to a different area.

  8. And because it's consistent by raymorris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Comcast sucks. They do several things that suck.

    As someone pointed out below, they didn't charge him any more when his install out in the country cost Comcast far more than $90. They *could* charge $75/hour for installation. When customers ask how much the installation will be, Comcast would say "it depends". As I found out with my business, customers HATE that.

    In my business I found out that customers would rather pay $75 than $50-$125. They really don't like it when the cost is "it depends". They especially wouldn't like paying $180 for installation when it turns out their house is a pain in the butt to run wires in, but they aren't overjoyed when it turns out their house is easy and it's only $50. They'd rather know up front.

      Even if a house had service before, the cabling and connectors may not be up-to-date, they may be corroded, have too splitters to work with current speeds, etc. So "already had service previously" doesn't mean installation isn't needed. "Already had service before" means "it depends". Comcast sucks in a lot of ways, so if I wanted to complain about Comcast I wouldn't focus on them making the pricing consistent and predictable as the problem. There are much better things to complain about with Comcast.

  9. Came here to say that by sootzuit · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Verizon did the exact same thing to me. I had a fiber ONT in my room from the previous tenant, and I told them I already had fiber installed, and I already had my own wifi access point, and all I needed was a single CAT5 cable or really any connection type for just one internet device. Just give me the FIOS modem and I will plug it in. They still charged me a $90 "installation fee", which was separate from the "sign-up fee". They also tried to get me to verbally authorize a recurring $140 monthly payment for TV, internet and phone service which I explicitly told them earlier I did not want, that I only wanted basic internet. I was also told that after the 12 months of my initial contract, the price will automatically go up after that, by $20-$30 per month, and there is nothing I can do about it unless I cancel my service. So, while Comcast sucks ass, the competition (Verizon) were really sleazy and definitely charge unnecessary fees.

  10. Re:Yes, if not more by Goetterdaemmerung · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, we charged the same whether the customer installed it or we did. We installed using very well-defined procedure, mostly handled by a Perl script in the end, which always did it right - it never forgot a step. Customers trying to install it themselves fucked it all up more often than not, frequently causing damage we would have to clean up later. Customers doing it themselves wasn't good for them or us.

    This is not a case of "customers installed themselves". This is a case of home transfer of pre-installed cables where the customer was essentially unplugging and plugging in their equipment. Unless that is actually what you mean, in which case that is outrageous that a customer can't even plug in a device without professional doing it for them.

  11. Re:Yes, if not more by WaffleMonster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes, we charged the same whether the customer installed it or we did. We installed using very well-defined procedure, mostly handled by a Perl script in the end, which always did it right - it never forgot a step. Customers trying to install it themselves fucked it all up more often than not, frequently causing damage we would have to clean up later. Customers doing it themselves wasn't good for them or us.

    This is a universal sentiment across all trades. I suspect much of it is consequence of relying on negative and or selection biases to inform bogus conclusions.

    You only visit the fuckups therefore all you see is fuckups.

    Or more common only fuckups would bother to call you in the first place therefore all you know is fuckups.

    You don't remember the people you had no issues with. You remember the fuckups who royally fucked up.

    If 1 out of 10 botched an install or otherwise did something stupid to piss you off would you really see the situation from perspective of 9 out of 10 getting it right? I doubt I would. Doubt most would. Policy intended to save outliers from themselves at the expense of everyone else after all can be quite effective, prudent and rational.

    We are surrounded on all sides by the fruits of leaving Comcast installers operate power tools unsupervised. I would pass if I were you.

  12. Re:Then don't subscribe to Comcast. by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So, in a world of monopoly internet service, just exactly WHERE would you suggest people take their business?