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Nobody Knows How Much Energy Bitcoin Is Using (vice.com)

dmoberhaus writes: A new report published in 'Joule' today claims Bitcoin may use up to 0.5% of the world's energy by the end of this year. We often hear about how bad Bitcoin is for the environment -- it already uses the same amount of energy as the country of Ireland -- but these numbers are usually just the /minimum/ amount of energy the network must be using. The actual amount of energy used by the Bitcoin network is likely substantially higher, but getting an accurate reading on that energy level is hard. The only researcher trying to quantify Bitcoin's energy use spoke to Motherboard about opening Bitcoin's 'black box.'

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  1. Re:But how much energy is used by traditional fiat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You raise an interesting point about current money using a lot of energy and resources to maintain; however, I'd be shocked if it were 0.5% of all energy produced (as bitcoin is being quoted as using). I've no doubt bitcoin uses more. A lot more.

    Also, bitcoin is used by what, about 1 million people world wide? Whereas cash is used by... 6 or 7 BILLION people.

    1 million- using 0.5% of all energy (and only a small fraction of that 1 million are miners using it), is a disproportionate amount of energy. Imagine if the other 7 billion of us started using bitcoin too. The energy usage would go up.

  2. Re:But how much energy is used by traditional fiat by Spy+Handler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not an apples to apples comparison, because bitcoin is not needed in this world or any other world, whereas normal currency is.

    Suppose a new fad appears where people are burning big piles of coal stacked in the shape of a giant penis. Say it becomes really popular. Critics then point out that it's a waste of energy and emitter of greenhouse gases. Defenders of penis coal justify this by saying,

    "But the CO2 emissions from cars is much bigger than CO2 emission from penis coal. So it's not a problem, cars pollute more than penis coal."

  3. Re:More importantly by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There are entire multi-megawatt coal fired plants that are privately owned running Bitcoin mining rigs in multiple countries right now.

  4. Re:What about energy consumption of other currency by jythie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The major difference is that with all those other examples there is no arms race for power usage. The more energy you sink into mining the bigger the payoff you get, and the system can support essentially an infinite amount of energy input. So energy usage will always scale up to match energy cost, while in those other domains energy usage is a cost that only drives down profit.

  5. Re:But how much energy is used by traditional fiat by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    $1B out of the global GDP OF $84 trillion is only .0011% of overall economic activity. Assuming that energy consumption of most economic activities is roughly proportional to cost, you've only accounted for 1/420th of Bitcoin's energy use.

    And don't forget that the US dollar is used for orders of magnitude more total transaction value than Bitcoin. Even if you add in the energy use of the portion of the global banking industry that deals specifically with fiat currencies, here is simply no way that they use anywhere near the amount of energy per unit of value transacted as Bitcoin does.