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Rollout of Windows 10 April Update Halted For Devices With Intel and Toshiba SSDs (bleepingcomputer.com)

Posted by msmash on from the beware dept.

Catalin Cimpanu, writing for BleepingComputer: Microsoft has halted the deployment of the Windows 10 April 2018 Update for computers using certain types of Intel and Toshiba solid state drives (SSDs). The Redmond-based OS maker took this decision following multiple user reports about the Windows 10 April 2018 Update not working properly on devices using: Intel SSD 600p Series, Intel SSD Pro 6000p Series, Toshiba XG4 Series, Toshiba XG5 Series, and Toshiba BG3 Series.

The Intel and Toshiba issues appear to be different. More specifically, Windows PCs using Intel SSDs would often crash and enter a UEFI screen after reboot, while users of Toshiba SSDs reported lower battery life and SSD drives becoming very hot.

89 comments

  1. "The Redmond-based OS maker" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really?

  2. ffs Microsoft, test before release. SSD, really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would have thought old school hard drives would be incompatible.

  3. Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    Looks like the Windows 10 1803 update also prevents the Intel HD graphics driver from changing the screen brightness. Again, don't they have people check things like that before they release the update?

    1. Re:Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by omnichad · · Score: 5, Informative

      Again, don't they have people check things like that before they release the update?

      Of course they do. The Home and Pro users. They haven't rolled this out to Enterprise customers yet.

    2. Re:Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, the problem is, do Intel give a shit?

      THAT'S the real issue - the device driver manufacturer is not the operating system manufacturer. Who knows which is to blame, but I'm not so quick to blame Microsoft.

      Ideal fix, of course, is simple. Microsoft written device drivers.

    3. Re:Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It works just fine on the $399 HD (480p) Touch Screens used by the Alpha Testers (Windows Insiders).

      That it has problems with $10,000 non-touch 3160p displays was not tested prior to release (none of the Alpha Testers can afford such machines).

      That is why you have an additional 6 months to "Beta" test before it is released.

      Note that it appears that the Alpha Testers could not afford SSD or NVMe either,

    4. Re:Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Again, don't they have people check things like that before they release the update?

      That wouldn't be very Agile Devops would it? If it works on your machine you ship it. AGILE. DEVOPS. Now shut up and AGILE some more DEVOPS or by Gates we'll do to you what we did to those pesky QA people.

    5. Re:Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      There's the Windows Insider program. Too bad, most of severe regressions -- ones that prevent booting at all -- also make any automated error reporting impossible. Manual reports are of course ignored. Heck, I bet automated reports are ignored as well.

      There's a fast track update every ~2 weeks; no release since then was able to boot twice for me (somehow, it works the first time after upgrading).

      It's my only Windows 10 installation; it's small enough I can dd it from backup easily -- but if I actually needed it for something productive I'd be pissed.

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    6. Re:Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They fired about 3,000 quality assurance people over the last few years. This is why MS patches suck so bad now.

    7. Re: Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you canâ(TM)t afford testing on a 6 month release cycle

    8. Re:Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the device driver manufacturer is not the operating system manufacturer. Who knows which is to blame, but I'm not so quick to blame Microsoft.

      I'll wager you're one of the first to blame "Linux" when some piece of hardware doesn't work properly, even if the vendor gives no shits and does not release even a scrap of documentation.

    9. Re:Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by denisbergeron · · Score: 1

      My Dell Latitude crash everytime I plug my Dell 4k monitor since the last windows 10 update.

      With Microsoft, you have to choose, having the last update with the last security update or having a functionnel hackable computer.

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    10. Re:Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by drnb · · Score: 1

      They fired about 3,000 quality assurance people over the last few years. This is why MS patches suck so bad now.

      I guess that was not simply the legacy version teams, Win XP, Vista, 7, 8. ;-(

    11. Re:Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      We need a new law to cover damage done by updates. Everything gets updates these days, from phones to cars. The potential for problems is high.

      If an update made your car undriveable you would take it back to the dealer and drive a rental at their expense until it was fixed. Somehow Microsoft just gets away with it though.

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    12. Re:Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Should be an extension of lemon laws that is extended for as long as updates are made available. But the converse is that security updates not being available would also open you up to liability within a certain window.

    13. Re:Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Security updates are already covered for the lifetime of the product under UK law. If the device becomes unfit for purpose because of unpatched vulnerabilities you can get a partial refund based on how long you have owned it.

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    14. Re: Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is our children learning?

    15. Re:Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, on Windows 10 you can not choose, MS installs whatever they decide to your computer and you must just bend over. Of course they can not afford to test any driver upgrades, they have to analyze and sell all the data they collect from computers.

      What bundleware games and applications did this OS "upgradee" by the way install this time?

    16. Re:Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Again, don't they have people check things like that before they release the update?

      Why are you even asking this question? MS's OS is used in millions of devices across millions of configurations. One of those configurations affected is the 2017 Surface Pro, MS's premier current device can not run its premier current OS.

      The answer is not no, No, or No!. It's FUCK NO!

      And people think these incompetent fuckwits would be capable of pulling off a strategy like EEE by through the Windows Subsystem for Linux. It makes me laugh.

    17. Re:Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The more amazing part from the article:

      "Curiously, is that the Intel series are usually the SSDs that ship with some of the Surface Pro laptops, meaning Microsoft failed to thoroughly test the April 2018 Update on its own, homegrown devices."

      So, someone at Microsoft isn't doing the testing.

    18. Re:Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool, so how do I get compensated for the hundreds of security bugs in Linux? Like seriously, don't you people have millions of eyes constantly poring over this shit. Guess it was a lie ..

    19. Re:Fix the Intel HD graphics driver, too by david999 · · Score: 0

      All your family photos and personal files gone in a blink.
      Microsoft does not even say sorry.

  4. Standards would make this a non-starter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If MicroSoft and the hardware vendors stuck to device interface standards as written instead of relying on sketchy un-documented features to keep the competition locked out, things like this wouldn't be a problem.

    1. Re:Standards would make this a non-starter by Ambassador+Kosh · · Score: 1

      It looks like the SSDs that stuck to the standard drivers and interfaces did not run into any problems at all. Basically this only impacted drives that used custom drivers.

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    2. Re:Standards would make this a non-starter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It looks like the SSDs that stuck to the standard drivers and interfaces did not run into any problems at all. Basically this only impacted drives that used custom drivers.

      Microsoft has brainwashed you into doing their QA for them, and you even take pride in how much of your life they have wasted.

    3. Re:Standards would make this a non-starter by omnichad · · Score: 2

      custom drivers = drivers.

    4. Re:Standards would make this a non-starter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hire? Thats a odd way to intern.

    5. Re:Standards would make this a non-starter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I suspect it more likely that (some subset) of devices that rely (the user did not install proper drivers) on the built-in Windows Complete-Utter-Hunk-Of-Shit drivers have problems. I know that the Windows built-in NVMe drivers have not worked properly in the last few iterations of Windows 10 and require special "editing" to get "Working Properly" drivers from the Manufacturers' installed initially so that a Windows install takes less than a week (if it manages to work at all).

      For Standard SATA SSDs the "correct" set of Intel RST drivers is also a dogs breakfast, some working and some not so much. And Windblows System-Hoser (also known euphemistically as Windows Update) wanting to fiddle-faddle with drivers all the time is also a process fraught in peril.

      For what it is worth I use a Samsung NVMe and drivers and also a Samsung SATA SSD with Magician. After fiddle-faddling with the drivers and to get the Windows Shit to go hide in the corner where it belongs, everything works just fine.

    6. Re:Standards would make this a non-starter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_driver

    7. Re:Standards would make this a non-starter by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Which only boils down to a few categories with generic characteristics, and no performance features.

      Graphics drivers, especially, will not ever likely be in this category.

    8. Re:Standards would make this a non-starter by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      It looks like the SSDs that stuck to the standard drivers and interfaces did not run into any problems at all. Basically this only impacted drives that used custom drivers.

      Like the 2017 Surface Pro.

    9. Re:Standards would make this a non-starter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought we were talking about HDD's

  5. Microsoft too busy writing bloatware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    To focus on bugs.They would rather work on Bubble Witch Saga than test SSDs.

  6. I was told Windows works with everything! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Windows fanboys keep telling me that Windows runs on EVERYTHING because Microsoft has drivers for everything, and it's shitty Linux that breaks on computers that aren't 20 years old. Were they lying?

    1. Re: I was told Windows works with everything! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Calm down, buddy. You're going to wake your mother upstairs. She's trying to take a nap.

    2. Re:I was told Windows works with everything! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I'm having more problems getting everything running on a machine that's ten years using linux.
      Using windows on same said machine works out of the box, without internet, so yes, linux divided itself too many times, and lost track of everything... well it still is losing track of everything, but just give it some more time...
      njoy

    3. Re:I was told Windows works with everything! by jellomizer · · Score: 0

      If you are going to randomly purchase some new hardware chances is it is going to work for Windows there is a slimmer chance it will work with Linux.
      Mostly due to the fact the Hardware maker will have a custom driver for that particular product, vs. Linux waiting for someone to make one, or falling back on the standards.

      The biggest issue is many hardware makers just don't follow the interface standards and rely on the driver for compatibility. This sucks for the consumer, especially if they don't have time to do full research. They see two drives both the same size and same speed. One uses the standard controller interface, the other one has some crazy they made, and the custom driver deals with it. The second one costs 20% less. So we get the the cheaper one because we don't have the information to make a proper decision. So we get the drive assuming we have a Windows PC it will work fine for years, we give it 5 stars on Amazon and go on... Until there is that one patch, where Microsoft cannot account for such an off third party device. Then it fails to work. And you will need to wait (if the company isn't out of business) for them to make a patch to the driver to make it work again.

      Back in them old days Internal modems had dip-switches or jumpers to set the COM port and IRQ settings. Then Windows 95 with its more advanced driver allowed for "Win" Modems. Which were in essence DtoA converts with a phone jack, so they were dirt cheap. And we relied on the driver to convert the request, emulate any AT Commands, and the CPU had to generate the data to produce whatever tone was needed. These modems sucked, because if your CPU was doing too much it would cut out and you would loose connection, or just take up a lot of CPU while online, slowing down the other software. And if you wanted to switch to Linux no luck. I got one of those after lighting killed my 14.4k modem. And returned it, because the box showed COM port and IRQ switches and the modem in the box didn't have it. False advertising, so I got little push back and went with external Parallel port Modems sense.

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    4. Re:I was told Windows works with everything! by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      Everyone has been lying to you all along, the whole time. The entire world is a pack of lies in fact. Nothing is true or real or valid and everything you know is wrong. I hope that helps to clear things up.

    5. Re:I was told Windows works with everything! by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      And you will need to wait (if the company isn't out of business) for them to make a patch to the driver to make it work again.

      But conveniently, this is often around the same time the Linux community manages to slap together a working driver for it.

    6. Re:I was told Windows works with everything! by Narcocide · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You realize you're posting to a conversation thread about Microsoft's failure to deliver a working driver for OEM hardware, right?

    7. Re:I was told Windows works with everything! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, Microsoft didn't write those drivers. Its a hard concept to grasp, but device manufacturers are best suited to write drivers for products they create. Also, fun fact, Microsoft QA doesn't own every single device made in existence. Its best to shut up about the woeful quality of Linux these days. Go visit some linux forums. Or do you want me to post some embarrassing facts? You have to be on a constant patch treadmill to avoid being one of those millions of rooted LAMP servers. Dare to put an unpatched Linux box on the internet?

      https://www.cvedetails.com/top...

      Lols..

       

    8. Re:I was told Windows works with everything! by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      I'll guarantee you there is a linux that runs stock on your hardware and I'll bet you dollars to donuts it's OpenSUSE.

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  7. Uggh by OYAHHH · · Score: 1

    After being nagged a LOT and worrying about MS wiping out a current session i been working on for a while I bit the bullet and installed the durn thing.

    Now I'm sitting here wondering if it's gonna screw up due to my SSD.

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    1. Re:Uggh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wiping out a current session

      Microsoft Windows added a save feature in version 1. Well... maybe 1.1 but it was pretty early on.

    2. Re:Uggh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now I'm sitting here wondering if it's gonna screw up due to my SSD.

      Don't worry, Windows is perfectly capable of doing that all by itself.

    3. Re:Uggh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF are you talking about?

      When Windows updates itself (which for all non-Enterprise customers cannot be deferred forever) the OS will restart and you *will* lose work.

      This is affecting nearly everyone I know in the business, and as a result most are looking into every alternative they can find. Windows as an OS is no longer fit for purpose.

  8. Intel cain't do software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    more poof.

  9. Scaring words: we've got some updates for your PC by rastos1 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hi,

    We've got some updates for your PC

    This might take several minutes.

    The PC may reboot several times.

    I love the vagueness of the messages ;-)

  10. Possibly Samsung Too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After the April update, I noticed a temperature spike of roughly 20 degrees celcius being reported from somewhere on my motherboard. Problem is there doesn't seem to be proper documentation on where that particular sensor resides on my motherboard. Now I'm wondering if it's near my SSD.

  11. Re:Scaring words: we've got some updates for your by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi,

    We've got some updates for your PC

    This might take several minutes.

    The PC may reboot several times.

    I love the vagueness of the messages ;-)

    It's not like Microsoft knows.

  12. Re:Scaring words: we've got some updates for your by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    dont worry, we may brick your desktop.

    if your backing up to azure your data is safe -- despite your lost time and productivity.

  13. I've had it with mandatory downtime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I understand that these are complicated systems but I've had it with the increasing frequency of these mandatory updates causing major IT issues and downtime.

    Yes I know there are obscure tools and registry changes that can somewhat mitigate that. I shouldn't have to.

    All my mission critical windows systems are now quarantined from the internet and other networks because they are bandwidth hogging security risks with secret backdoors. As soon as I implemented that the performance and stability of my windows computers increased massively.

  14. I always image first. by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

    When I know a major update is due, I make images of both machines' boot drives. I have only used such an image once, out of desperation over some strange issues I was having -- and it didn't fix them, they turned out to be due to buggy drivers that had been updated prior to my disk imaging. (So the fix was exactly the same whether Windows was updated or not.) This isn't the only time or reason for making boot drive images, of course, but it seems to me that right before a potentially disastrous procedure like a major update is a good time to be making backups. I certainly worry less about correcting brokenness after an update when I have drive images in hand. (Finding brokenness can be the hard part. Just because I use a software package infrequently, that doesn't mean it's not damn critical when I do use it.)

    Imaging a half-full 250 GB SSD doesn't take that long if it's to a local drive. Pushing the image to the NAS box is another matter entirely, especially if it's by WiFi. Using a fast(ish) flash drive is somewhere in between. I have spinning rust in the desktop as well as an SSD, so that's where the images go. (They are then duplicated onto the NAS box when the machine has nothing better to do.) The Chromebook gets backed up to flash drive, then the flash drive gets transferred to the desktop for duplication to the NAS box, to take full advantage of GigE.

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    1. Re:I always image first. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I make images EVERY DAY. One FULL IMAGE per month, One Differential per week, one incremental per day. This occurs automagically. No matter what. Come Rain, Snow, Sun, Moon, whatever. This covers "at least" one month. So anytime I can go back 6 days (incremental), 5 weeks (differentials), and one or two months (full images).

      An additional Full image runs monthly and writes to a Thunderbolt 3 attached RAID-6 array (which can I/O almost as fast at the NVMe) baring the stupid fucking design of PCIe by Intel and its shortage of actual "lanes" where most of them are actually just "fake shit" off DMI.

      Once, long ago, I got bit by not having a proper backup to backout some Microsoft Shit Splatter. Now it is all automated and that has never happened again.

    2. Re:I always image first. by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

      The contents of my boot drive just don't change that fast. As long as I'm backing up my active projects as I go, I could roll back to last month's image, copy over the projects, and then let Windows Update do its thing, and not feel like I had lost very much. I might have to reinstall a game or something else that I had done since the backup was performed. The only things that get backed up frequently are those active projects, which may get copied multiple times a day, and the Minecraft server if it is actually being played enough to warrant it. It generally isn't, so a couple times a week is more typical. Browser bookmarks on the desktop get backed up frequently simply so they can be restored on the laptop. Then I actually have TWO backups -- the copy on the NAS box, and the copy on the other machine.

      Media files often go many months between full backups, but they're on the NAS box and synced to the desktop machine's spinning rust. Again, they just don't change fast enough to justify more effort. If I lost a month's worth of torrents, I'd just fetch them again.

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    3. Re:I always image first. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I know a major update is due

      Think I spotted the flaw with your plan :(

    4. Re:I always image first. by antdude · · Score: 1

      Ditto. I make a backup of my C: once a month because of MS updates. It's not just MS too. Apple and others as well. I also make frequent important data backups too. :(

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    5. Re:I always image first. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is not exactly new - I learned my lesson decades ago when I lost a month's work on my phd. Ever since I've been a bit of a backup obsessive. I always make sure I have multiple copies of important data, ideally in multiple locations (work policy allowing), and that gets updated daily. Monthly images are a given. And redundancy is also a must in case a "smart" program decides to make changes behind your back (personal experience again) and you don't notice for a non-trivial time.

      (I have a shelf at home which is a bit of a history lesson in backup media: floppies, tapes, cdroms, dvdroms, zip drives, flash drives, external hard-drives... many probably unreadable by now, but I've used the lot at one point or another)

    6. Re:I always image first. by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

      The feature updates are announced months ahead of time, and a specific date for roll-out is generally announced in the last month. Sometimes this gets delayed a week, but that doesn't really matter for the purposes of making images.

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  15. So funny, but not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who the bleep is a Insider these days that this sort muck up slipped through to a release??? Its full of bugs and worthless features that were not worth it. There is no such thing anymore as a stable release with Windows 10. Why even bother with Insider's if this sort of crap still exist in a release to public? Heck were all forced beta testers anyway its seems, right?

  16. Windows 10 N Upgrade Failed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The install failed on my Windows 10 N machine, too. Why? Because I'd installed MS Windows Media Player (yes, yes, I know).
    The solution involved using optionalfeatures.exe to remove the entire Media Features option. Restart. Then from an admin shell:

            Net stop wuauserv
            Net stop cryptSvc
            Net stop bits
            Net stop msiserver
            Ren C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution SoftwareDistribution.old
            Ren C:\Windows\System32\catroot2 Catroot2.old
            Net start wuauserv
            Net start cryptSvc
            Net start bits
            Net start msiserver

    The standard Windows Update wasn't happy so it was necessary to use the Update Assistant: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
    Finally, re-install the Media Features: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48231

    Putting this here to save others the 6 hours of repeated rollbacks and research.

  17. Thread to complain about this update by bangular · · Score: 1

    This update took it upon itself to create a new recovery partition, which then complains it's full. I eventually fixed it, but it seems like there wasn't very much QA involved in this update.

    https://borncity.com/win/2018/05/02/windows-10-v1803-update-creates-a-new-oem-partition/

    1. Re:Thread to complain about this update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had to deal with this at one of my clients. Worse yet, the recovery partition was given a drive letter of F:, which overwrote the mapped drive that the client used to connect to software on their server, so I had to go in behind the update and do the drive letter shuffle for no good reason.

    2. Re: Thread to complain about this update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They fired their QA department. It is your job now.

    3. Re:Thread to complain about this update by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmm. Saw this with many previous Windows Updates. Of course, those were initially installed using the "vendor" semga. Once figuring out how the recovery partition works and its fucking stupid magical crap, Re-installing from scratch and putting the recovery parition in the CORRECT PLACE and of SUFFICIENT SIZE has fixed the problem forever.

      People who engage "Automatic Mystical Microsoft Magical Mode" generally get the results they have chosen. If you instead figure out what you are doing and turn the magic off, then all those problems go away. Forever.

      You still do have to check the firewall settings after every operation though to make sure that the Microsoft default of allowing unsolicited incoming connections from the Internet to anything called "calc.exe" (or any of a crap load of other Microsoft shit that does not need to accept unsolicited connections from the internet) on you computer is still turned off (unless of course you know some reason why the calculator needs to accept unsolicited incoming connections from the internet -- in which case please pray tell)

  18. Re:Scaring words: we've got some updates for your by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I keep picturing time cards from Spongebob Squarepants.

    "3 hours later"

  19. Upgrades or.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought upgrades were meant to improve the os? Did ms make a policy change since releasing Windows 10 I'm unaware of?

  20. How did this get past Quality Control? by Leslie43 · · Score: 1

    Oh right... They didn't bother to do that.
    Once again I'm wondering how the heck small businesses owners deal with these problems.

  21. Windows PCs ... would often crash by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

    Film at 11.

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  22. Intels days of being king and we don't give a dam by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Intels days of being king and we don't give a dam are over. zen 2 epyc will destroy the data center market for intel.

  23. Not 100% true. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft ASSUMES that you have these drives installed at the time of the update and that you are not using them as external backups. BAD THINKING, as I for one use SSD drives for back ups. I guess since I only boot of these in the event of an emergency, such as replacing my main drive that I'll just be Gated in my corn hole.

  24. Re:Scaring words: we've got some updates for your by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When win10 auto-updates:

    - I used to think "oh shit, I'm screwed".

    - Now I think "fsck it, I'll deal with the fallout on monday - I'm headed home for an early weekend".

  25. ported from win7 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    " More specifically, Windows PCs using Intel SSDs would often crash and enter a UEFI screen after reboot" ... every few days/each week

    Exactly what my new Win 7 box does. It seems to have trashed both Samsung SSDs I have tried somehow.

  26. Re:Linux chose "open" at the cost of less cooperat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you want someone to work with you there needs to be some accommodation, but with Linux there is no accommodation, only submitting to the dictates of the GPL.

    OK, what if a developer signed an NDA and wrote a driver under a different license?
    If you want it portable you still have to release the source, even if it is obfuscated.
    Uncommented C-code is about as readable as a binary blob ran through a decompiler so if that is a violation of the NDA we are back to the vendor being the problem.

    Also, the GPL clause about "suitable for editing" is a bit vague.
    Historically I've had it easier editing binary blobs with a hex editor than I've had when trying to make something out of perl sources.

  27. Re:Scaring words: we've got some updates for your by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    I like the way that they give you a little frowny face when Windows crashes :-(. It's about time that MS outsourced manufacture of all hardware to Mattel. Then the entire ecosystem would at least be correctly represented.

  28. Incompetence runs deep by thegarbz · · Score: 2

    The incompetence Microsoft is showing at the moment really knows no bounds. It is one thing to offload your quality control to an insider program of free labour but then it's quite another to not to actually listen to any of the responses.

    The problem that affected the Spring Creator's Update which caused it to be pulled in the last minute was identified in 4 separate reports months earlier by the insiders. After fixing it the insider release was so short basically any new bugs were unable to be reported.

    And now this. A problem that affects a large group of SSDs including the 2017 Surface Pro. Microsoft's premier hardware product.

    It's one thing to offload widespread testing onto customers. It's quite another to screw up your most premium of products. This is no longer lack of quality control, this is sheer and utter incompetence.

    1. Re: Incompetence runs deep by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      I wonder if they are training their AI to triage bug reports/fixes and the fucking AI is still garbage.

  29. SSD Temperature by DrYak · · Score: 1

    If your Samsung is 840 or later, you can get its own measure of temperature out of SMART attribute "190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel".
    (I just don't know how to do this in Windows 10. I mostly use Linux and smartmontools.
    Maybe Samsung's Wizard tools can do it ? Maybe SpeedFan ? Have a look here.)

    On Samsung 830, I haven't seen such an attribute.

    If that unknown sensors is nearby the SSD, it and the SSD's sensor should evolve similarly over time (spike at roughly the same time, with more or less similar top temperatures)

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  30. Good approach by DrYak · · Score: 1

    All my mission critical windows systems are now quarantined from the internet and other networks

    Which by itself is a good approach as it drastically decrease *nearly all* security and safety risk for mission critical equipement.
    (Basically only a few very advanced threats geared toward air gapped targets as stuxnet)
    No mater the insanity of Windows 10 updates.

    The next step would be to enclose them inside VMs and use a slightly saner host OS (something unix-y, e.g.: Linux) to handle the VMs.
    Including snapshotting for safe roll back (which among other could help mitigate the buggy updates)
    While of course still keeping them network isolated (they are mission critical after all).

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  31. AMD graphics drivers brightness control by Guppy · · Score: 1

    Looks like the Windows 10 1803 update also prevents the Intel HD graphics driver from changing the screen brightness.

    This has been the case since back when Windows 8 came around for me. Every Windows update that messes with the graphics on my ASUS N56dp laptop (AMD trinity APU) breaks the screen brightness. Fortunately, it can be fixed by re-installing the manufacturer's graphics drivers, and/or a registry edit.

  32. Re:Linux chose "open" at the cost of less cooperat by drnb · · Score: 1

    If you want someone to work with you there needs to be some accommodation, but with Linux there is no accommodation, only submitting to the dictates of the GPL.

    OK, what if a developer signed an NDA and wrote a driver under a different license?

    That has happened and users of those hardware devices have had Linux support via a closed binary. Such binaries are sometimes not installed by default due to ideological purity but some distributions have a simple question during install to allow such binaries. And users approving them get working hardware under Linux.