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US Government Wants To Start Charging For Landsat, the Best Free Satellite Data On Earth (qz.com)

The U.S. government may begin charging users for access to five decades of satellite images of Earth. Quartz reports: Nature reports that the Department of Interior has asked an advisory board to consider the consequences of charging for the data generated by the Landsat program, which is the largest continuously collected set of Earth images taken in space and has been freely available to the public since 2008. Since 1972, Landsat has used eight different satellites to gather images of the Earth, with a ninth currently slated for a December 2020 launch. The data are widely used by government agencies, and since it became free, by an increasing number of academics, private companies and journalists. "As of March 31, 2018, more than 75 million Landsat scenes have been downloaded from the USGS-managed archive!" the agency noted on the 10th anniversary of the program.

Now, the government says the cost of sharing the data has grown as more people access it. Advocates for open data say the public benefit produced through research and business activity far outweigh those costs. A 2013 survey cited by Nature found that the dataset generated $2 billion in economic activity, compared to an $80 million budget for the program.

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  1. Yet another profit center for the Trump admin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Trump is just looking for more ways to convert more government programs into being profit BUs instead of public services.

    We already paid for the hardware and time with our taxes.. If they really need to, they can allow services to mirror the data.

    1. Re:Yet another profit center for the Trump admin by mrbester · · Score: 3, Insightful

      > Now, the government says the cost of sharing the data has grown as more people access it

      I'll bet it is running on some pay-through-the-nose hosting and they can't be bothered to even do a cost analysis of hosting it somewhere cheaper.

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      "Wait. Something's happening. It's opening up! My God, it's full of apricots!"
    2. Re:Yet another profit center for the Trump admin by crypticedge · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Trump admin probably wants to use this excuse to put it on a trump hosted server so he can steal that money too, kind of like his now 7 figure secret service golf cart rental fees and his 500 million chinese provided gift in order to promote ZTE.

      We're in the most corrupt time America has ever seen.

    3. Re: Yet another profit center for the Trump admin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Because that's how society works.

      I don't use the roads in certain parts of town, but my taxes still pay for their maintenance, in the same way that others do not use for the roads I drive through regularly.

      Additionally, as TFS says, the benefits far outweigh the costs. You sounds like one of those people who think only the services they personally use should be funded.

  2. public domain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    because this is work generated by the federal government. so it only takes ONE 'purchase' and then it's 'out there'... it will only encourage those that use the images to use advertisements or subscriptions to 'cover costs' (and then some) even more.. generating more money and more profits for them, not you. don't expect to make that 2 billion dollars, bub. it won't happen.

  3. Stupid is as stupid does by skovnymfe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Logic dictates that as one of the last remaining successful government run space programs, it must now be castrated, cannibalized and killed so that we can feed off of its rotting flesh. If all that money can be siphoned off instead of re-invested, just imagine what can be accomplished. More parking lots! More malls! More stadiums!

    Politicians really are retarded.

  4. C'mon people - it's hosting, bandwidth by dbrueck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are basically two costs: the cost to acquire the data and the cost to give the data to you and everyone else. Yes, tax dollars were used for the first one. That money is spent and gone, and the data has been acquired.

    But hosting the files, maintaining backups, and paying for the bandwidth to deliver the data is an ongoing cost and, as the TFA pointed out, one that grows as more people access the data. How do you deal with that cost? Solutions could include: destroying the data, using even more of your tax dollars, or having the people who cause that ongoing cost to pay for it.

    There's nothing nefarious about contemplating the latter option.

  5. Nice strawman by sjbe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is it America's job to do everything for the world?

    It isn't and never was and we don't. That's a nice rhetorical strawman you have there though combined with a nice little dash of jingoism.

    It's just expected everything will be free of charge. GPS, military protection, US Navy keeping the sea routes open for wealthy nations like Germany to make a mint on exports,

    Ok so let's cut the military spending. We spend WAY too much money on it anyway.

    Oh, and GPS isn't provided for free nor is US military protection. There are royalties involved with GPS and if you think US military protection doesn't come with strings attached you are an idiot.

    American citizens dying from hyper expensive medical costs while the world benefits from cures we develop, the list goes on.

    Oh spare me. The only reason our medical costs are so high is because we have a weapons grade stupid system for financing our medical care. Literally every other advanced country realized a long time ago that the government HAS to be an active player to keep costs reasonable and to ensure that EVERYONE has access to health care. They treat it as a fundamental human right and we do not. Our expensive medical system is our own stupid fault and no one elses.

    It's bankrupting us to carry all these free riders along.

    No it really is not. Our oversized military budget, unwillingness have a rational healthcare system, unwillingness (by some) to assess enough taxes to pay for it all is what is bankrupting us.

  6. If you're from outside the USA? Sure. by argStyopa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...but as a US citizen my taxes paid for the agency, the hardware, and is paying for the maintenance. It should be free to me, for sure.*

    *well, let's be honest, about 1/3 of it was paid by borrowing because as a country we have a ridiculous obsession with overspending, but that's another conversation.

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    -Styopa