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Anti-GMO Activists Slow Scientists Breeding a CO2-Reducing Superplant (thebulletin.org)
The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists calls it "a plant that could save civilization, if we let it." Slashdot reader meckdevil writes:
A "super chickpea plant" now in development could remove huge amounts of excess atmospheric carbon dioxide and fix it in the soil, greatly diminishing the impacts of climate change (not to mention producing large amounts of tasty hummus). But fear of anti-GMO activists has so far deterred her from using the CRISPR gene-editing tool to speed work on the plant.
The effort is led by Joanne Chory, director of the Plant Molecular and Cellular Biology laboratory at the Salk Institute for Biological Sciences -- who according to the article will make much slower progress without CRISPR. "Even with advanced breeding techniques, Chory estimates that developing a super plant in this fashion would take around 10 years..."
"She estimates that if 5 percent of the world's cropland, approximately the total area of Egypt, were devoted to such super plants, they could capture about 50 percent of current global carbon dioxide emissions."
The effort is led by Joanne Chory, director of the Plant Molecular and Cellular Biology laboratory at the Salk Institute for Biological Sciences -- who according to the article will make much slower progress without CRISPR. "Even with advanced breeding techniques, Chory estimates that developing a super plant in this fashion would take around 10 years..."
"She estimates that if 5 percent of the world's cropland, approximately the total area of Egypt, were devoted to such super plants, they could capture about 50 percent of current global carbon dioxide emissions."
Think of all the worst things we've imagined about science.
Nature has done all those most horrible things on a scale millions of times larger already.
Nature kills millions of people with radiation each year.
Nature makes self-replicating killing machines each day.
Nature has groups killing sub-groups within a species for random non-reasons, leading to extinctions in each era of life.
All the worst-case scenarios science is accused of slippery-sloping down have happened with nature, and WILL happen with nature over time.
Science lets us pick and choose the parts of nature we want to see more of. Yeah - we're still stumbling on nasty notes as part of that remix - but the sound of science so far has been amazingly good so far overall.
I'd completely understand if what they were protesting is corporate manipulation of science - that's worthy of protest and debate. But protesting the science itself? As in, our foundational shared understanding of nature? Might as well protest language.
Ryan Fenton
Looks like this is long term:
All plants produce suberin, a waxy, water-repellent, carbon-rich compound, also known as cork, that protects roots and resists decay. Coastal grasses make a lot of it to keep water out of their roots. It is one of the most stable substances around, persisting in soil for hundreds, possibly thousands of years. One of Chory’s goals is to develop perennial plants that make more suberin than existing varieties.
I don't read your sig. Why are you reading mine?
I guess it is just due to ignorance about science that most people don't understand that GM, CRISPR, etc. just mimic the same processes that nature does trillions of times a day. Lots of mutations and viruses take genes from one species and insert them into others. Nature does this in a random manner, not targeted like scientists but the method is the same.
I think some people fear some mad scientist creating a super-organism which will take over. That's hard to do. Nature does routinely create more hardy organisms through the same mechanism and humans have created a few hardy organisms.
The most dangerous are superbugs created in industrial animal farms by bathing animals in antibiotics. No GM required. Nature just does its thing.
I don't read your sig. Why are you reading mine?
Lmao!
No, the activists haven't lost: Their fear campaign has already caused a lot of damage, and continues to do so. It's hard to sell produce that doesn't bruise (which reduces huge amounts of waste, including waste of what is needed to grow the plant, such as water) because anti-GMO activists have convinced the masses that it causes cancer or that it will make your dick fly off. This even applies to GMO tech that aims to eliminate the chance of acrylamide (a strong carcinogen) from showing up in cooked plant matter (including coffee.) Somebody has already created a potato with this gene, but they're not going to sell it because the mere fact that it is advertised as such also advertises that it is GMO, and for that reason alone, many will not buy it, hence it is not marketable. Furthermore, entire countries have banned it entirely based on anti-GMO bullshit, in fact it's even banned in most of Europe, which activists use as yet another talking point to try to validate their bullshit. Some cities in California forbid it as well, but California already proved that it was anti-science last week, so that isn't any surprise.
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The best thing you, or anybody else can do, is to actively debunk these shitheads (start by pointing out that every bit of research papers against GMO is either false, outright scientific fraud (this is the most common ), or misleading. Also, Greenpeace does by far the most damage. They spend HUGE amounts of money on an ongoing FUD campaign, and believe me, their war chest is quite big. I'd lobby your Congress critters to revoke their tax exempt status, especially given their more about politics than anything else, and they certainly don't give a shit about science (this is the same reason many other countries have revoked their tax exempt status. People have proven them wrong so many times on this, and every time this happens, they just shift their argument. GMO is a huge opportunity to preserve the environment, and when this is shown to them, they still want it banned. Doesn't sound much like an environmentalist organization to me, rather it sounds more like Scientology, who also claim to be environmentalists.
Interestingly, my wife has the exact same reactions; can't eat American wheat but can scarf down German butter pretzels all day long. No idea why, but a physician friend of ours thinks it might have something to do with the number of proteins in modern wheat. 50 years ago, there were less than ten but now, in our effort to feed the world, there's more than 40. (I'm in the middle of a term paper, so you smug "citation needed" types can sod off.)
Don't those activists have faith that scientists can accurately predict all possible interactions in the real world from their models for decades ahead? Do they not understand that using the geometric progression to propagate extremely unlikely changes in genetic material is not a cause for concern because the models are so good they do not allow any room for errors?
Btw you do not work in biotech, do you? I would like to think that you advocate more GMOs for purely ethical reasons and not because you stand to gain from GMOs in any way.
You get payed by Monsanto?
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Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
I guess there are different types of anti GMO people :D ...
I'm only against GMO'ed food. And GMO'ed plants in the wild that are sterile.
I don't care about GMO bacteria that produce medicine or vitamins, why would I?
And: we want it labeled. Hence we have laws according to it in Europe
And reading your rant: you obviously never ever really bothered to read anything about the topic, shithead Oh, Europe ... you hate us so much? Sorry, we don't like America, and its world politics, but we like americans, the people visiting us, or who we meet in other countries overseas are always nice and educated. You seem not so much ...
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.