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Trump Ignores 'Inconvenient' Security Rules To Keep Tweeting On His iPhone, Says Report (politico.com)

According to Politico, "President Donald Trump uses a White House cellphone that isn't equipped with sophisticated security features designed to shield his communications." The decision is "a departure from the practice of his predecessors that potentially exposes him to hacking or surveillance." From the report: The president uses at least two iPhones, according to one of the officials. The phones -- one capable only of making calls, the other equipped only with the Twitter app and preloaded with a handful of news sites -- are issued by White House Information Technology and the White House Communications Agency, an office staffed by military personnel that oversees White House telecommunications. While aides have urged the president to swap out the Twitter phone on a monthly basis, Trump has resisted their entreaties, telling them it was "too inconvenient," the same administration official said. The president has gone as long as five months without having the phone checked by security experts. It is unclear how often Trump's call-capable phones, which are essentially used as burner phones, are swapped out.

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  1. Trump dies in prison either way a traitor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The world isn't closing in, he's just a fat moron and oblivious of his surroundings!

  2. So What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Trump gets his daily briefing from Fox News which everyone knows is nothing but skewed opinion, truth and lies. Santa clause, the tooth fairy and the easter bunny all exist in that world. We are being lead by the world's biggest idiot.

    1. Re:So What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      You are yet another CNN/MSNBC lemming.

    2. Re:So What? by datavirtue · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I recently started watching Fox after avoiding it for at least ten years--as a form of entertainment and to "see whats going on." I have noticed that they really function to make people feel like everything is OK while focusing on trivial political matters and controversies. They do such a good job that it cannot be an accident. Not sure about CNN/MSNBC but I'm sure they are doing the same thing. It's like a drug.

      People are not happy with the way the country is going so these media arms use sophisticated mind fucking to placate (or arouse) based on their owners' needs.

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  3. All politians have no respect for security by gravewax · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Kinda ironic given how much stick he gave crooked Hillary for ignoring security on email.

    1. Re:All politians have no respect for security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      He's a shameless hypocrite, you're just now noticing?

      I think it is more a matter of projection.

      He knows what he would do in their position so he can't imagine them doing anything else.

      A lot of people work like that.
      They know that they would cheat, so they assume everyone else would too.
      Screw everyone else over before they have time to screw you over.

      The only thing he have accused others of doing that he haven't been caught with himself yet is the pizzagate thing.

    2. Re:All politians have no respect for security by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Do you honestly believe that Hillary wouldn't pull same shit on him if they swapped places? Pot calling kettle black. Captcha:swingers

      I'm 100% certain she wouldn't be playing much golf. And of course she wouldn't be charging the government a lot of money for services at her own enterprises, most certainly not for renting golf carts for the Secret Service agents who are supposed to take a bullet for her. Nor the tax breaks for the ultra rich including Wall Street. Want me to go on?

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    3. Re:All politians have no respect for security by Peter+P+Peters · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Can't these pieces of hardware be disabled within the phone before handing it over to do just twitter?

      I'm sure they can, but the first line of the summary tells us that "[Trump's phone] isn't equipped with sophisticated security features designed to shield his communications", so this is exactly the point.

    4. Re:All politians have no respect for security by Kiuas · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Basically that candidate would be doing their job rather than spending all his time obsessing about what the person who lost the election was allegedly doing years ago and extorting foreign leaders into bailing out his son in law's real estate company and investing in his own resort projects in as a prerequisite to getting things done.

      Yup. I'm a Finn so I have no direct stake in this, but following the Trump presidency from the outside has been like watching a trainwreck in slow-motion. This is the man who railed against corruption, the Washington elites, 'the swamp' and China. What has he done in his first year? Amp up nepotism by appointing his own friends and family into positions of power (never mind that they're not really fit to handle those positions), give massive tax-cuts to his own class to the tune of billions without any solid plan to fund them (and the republicans love this, even though it will cause a massive increase in the deficit), entangled your position in the middle-east even more than it already was by walking back on the Iran deal and with the Jerusalem embassy.move, and basically made himself the Swamlord.

      The Chinese have the man figured out, and why wouldn't they, he's easy to read. All it took to bend the man to their will was a few hundred million to his project and suddenly the Chinese went from 'stealing so many jobs to nice people that need to be helped because 'too many jobs in China lost'. Beijing took one look at the tariffs he was planning, hit back with counter-tariffs that hurt the critical areas of the Trump-base in the midterm and the man folded instantly like a house of cards. The fact that he even thought he could win a 'trade war' is indicative of just how beyond clueless the man is of the structure of the global economy. And this man fancies himself a negotiator or a strongman of some kind? He's not playing 4d chess, he's not even playing chess, he's eating the pieces and calling himself a genius for doing so. But the base cheers for him, and that's all that he cares about.

      Trump is weakening the US reputation and position globally on pretty much all fronts because he's so easy to manipulate, so impulsive, egocentric and frankly, so damn dumb. And that being the case, you can be sure that many of the major geopolitical players, likely China included, will do what they can behind the scenes to keep the man in power, because he might just be the best thing that's happened to your global competitors in a good while. Besides being relatively easy to control and influence from the outside with pocket change and praise, the amount of sheer incompetence and chaos he causes in the US domestic politics is a godsend to them. I mean, the fact that we're over a year into his presidency and the 'b-b-b-b-ut Hillary!" -card is still being thrown about as a counter whenever Trump does something that's just objectively moronic is proof of that.

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    5. Re:All politians have no respect for security by Freischutz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yup. I'm a Finn so I have no direct stake in this, but following the Trump presidency from the outside has been like watching a trainwreck in slow-motion. This is the man who railed against corruption, the Washington elites, 'the swamp' and China. What has he done in his first year? Amp up nepotism by appointing his own friends and family into positions of power (never mind that they're not really fit to handle those positions), give massive tax-cuts to his own class to the tune of billions without any solid plan to fund them (and the republicans love this, even though it will cause a massive increase in the deficit), entangled your position in the middle-east even more than it already was by walking back on the Iran deal and with the Jerusalem embassy.move, and basically made himself the Swamplord ... Trump is weakening the US reputation and position globally on pretty much all fronts because he's so easy to manipulate, so impulsive, egocentric and frankly, so damn dumb. ... I mean, the fact that we're over a year into his presidency and the 'b-b-b-b-ut Hillary!" -card is still being thrown about as a counter whenever Trump does something that's just objectively moronic is proof of that.

      I'm not an American either and I don't have a stake Reps vs. Dems trench-warfare the US'ians have got going. I can also only sit in amazement and watch this farce unfold. Trump fancies himself as the greatest negotiator in history, the most clever political strategist of our time and in that capacity he has managed to destroy the USA's credibility by reneging on the Iran nuclear agreement with the predictable result that that now nobody believes that anything the US commits to will survive the next presidential transition or even the next morning POTUS wakes up in a bad mood and fires off a Twitter storm. I've been watching John Bolton, Mike Pompeo, Netanyahu and the rest of that ilk cheering this latest Iran move along and making the case that you can only fight war with war. Nobody except Israeli nationalists and the Fox and Friends audience is buying it. There are already four raging dumpster fires in the Middle East: Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and Yemen and nobody except Israel, Saudi Arabia and the US war hawk and a few small nations of no real consequence has the slightest appetite to light up a fifth one.

    6. Re:All politians have no respect for security by Freischutz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Do you understand that you're writing parody there? Fixing the Middle East mess? Ask ISIS how it's going over there since Obama left office. He apparently has ended a 70 year war in Korea by mocking the fat, ugly imbecilic dictator on the other side over the internet. The economy is doing ell and employment is about the highest it's ever been. He's another Bill Clinton - horrible person, fine President.

      Deposing Saddam Hussein because he was on the verge of developing WMDs. How is that going? Any luck finding those WMDs? ... oh right, are you too busy dealing with the dumpster fires you lit after the Iraq invasion to remember the non existing WMDs. As for ending the 70 year war in Korea, after the demonstration of how the US honours the nuclear agreement it made with Iran, the subsequent assurances from Mike Pompeo that the US goal in Iran is now to affect regime change and the assurance from John Bolton that the Lybian model (where the dictator ended up getting sodomised by his angry subjects with a bayonet) would be applied to North Korea, I'm not holding my breath in anticipation of the greatest negotiator in human history ending the Korean war. In fact I'd not trust the US to keep any agreement or honour any treaty even as long as the president whom made it holds office.

    7. Re:All politians have no respect for security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      reneging on the Iran nuclear agreement

      What Iran nuclear agreement? Genuinely curious how this is seen outside the United States. Do foreigners not understand that a verbal political commitment with a U.S. President isn't binding on the country, nor on a future President? That this "agreement" wasn't signed by either side, didn't comply with U.S. law to be anything resembling a Treaty, and was described by the Obama State Department as not even being an executive agreement?

      Nobody gives a damn about technicalities. What is at stake her is the credibility of the US as an entity that makes commitments. The agreement was made, companies and governments were green-lighted by the US to do business in Iran, then the next US president decided to upend the whole thing because he felt like it. Trump bills himself as an expert negotiator, the best in history (because he's the best in history at everything), well so far nobody's impressed. The man is a buffoon, a moron, he is making an ass of the United States as a nation, it is the laughing stock of the entire planet.

    8. Re:All politians have no respect for security by PuckSR · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is, but it would be an interesting campaign position if the Democrats pushed through a "tax reform" bill which gave massive tax deductions to the wealthy.
      Obama even wanted to lower the corporate tax rate, and he couldn't pull it off despite almost all economists agreeing that it would be beneficial.

      Even if the Ultra-Rich literally OWNED Hillary, I seriously doubt that the Democrats were suddenly going to start passing laissez-faire legislation and tax bills for that systemically favored wealthy Wall Street donors.
      You can argue that Hillary was a "wall street friendly" Democrat and that she wouldn't be as hard on the rich as Bernie Sanders. That is a fair point. However, you can't pretend that a "wall street friendly" Democrat = "wall street friendly" Republican.

    9. Re:All politians have no respect for security by Freischutz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Under U.S. law any treaty not ratified by the Congress is not worth the paper it is written on. No U.S. treaty is binding unless it has passed both houses of Congress. that's the law. Sorry if you were misinformed.

      Again, nobody gives a shit, the US went back on it's word, nobody cares that Trump and the Republicans are on a holy crusade to undo everything Obama ever did. The US is in the middle of making a similar agreement with North Korea. Do you honestly think that what happened with Iran is going to boost the North Korean's trust that anything the US says or does is worth wasting their time on it? Then Mike Pompeo goes on TV and gives a half hour speech on how the goal with repudiating the Iran agreement and the new sanctions is regime change and then there is Bolton talking about the fact that he had the Lybia model in mind for N-Korea. Hmmm... broken promises, regime change, brutally murdered dictator, now there is a bunch of prospects that are bound to get N-Korea's dictator to the table!

    10. Re:All politians have no respect for security by Green+Mountain+Bot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You are forgetting one of the cardinal rules of politics, which is even more important at the level of international politics:

      Perception IS Reality.

      Trump has created the perception that the US will disregard agreements that it has previously made. That REALITY will make it much harder for the US to make agreements with foreign powers going forward, no matter how much you protest that the JPCOA was no true scotsman.

    11. Re: All politians have no respect for security by David_Hart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I just prefer facts to conspiracy theories.

      Then why quote snopes? That's very 90's as they have been extremely left leaning for a long while. They are the type that likes to split hairs when it suits them while other times conflating immigrant with illegal immigrant all the while pretending that they are above board and honest.

      Typical knee-jerk response... complain about Snopes being out of date/touch (which it isn't) and left leaning but doesn't provide another site that works to get the facts right.

      At least provide one web site that actually works to get to the truth that is unbiased (in your opinion). Otherwise your complaint is more about you believing what you want, regardless of the facts.

    12. Re: All politians have no respect for security by swillden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I just prefer facts to conspiracy theories.

      Then why quote snopes? That's very 90's as they have been extremely left leaning for a long while. They are the type that likes to split hairs when it suits them while other times conflating immigrant with illegal immigrant all the while pretending that they are above board and honest.

      Sigh. They cite their sources. If you have actual evidence that they're wrong about this post it, rather than engaging in ad hominem.

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  4. So what? by BitZtream · · Score: 1, Insightful

    That moron is going to tweet about it anyway.

    Lets face it, this guy that we've elected is an example of how to do every fucking thing wrong. Even if his phone was secure, he's going to post the secrets on twitter himself anyway. His phone being insecure is pretty much the least of our problems.

    We elected Zaphod Beeblebrox as our president . . . no . . . Zaphod at least had a plan.

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  5. Re:Trump Ignores 'Inconvenient' Security Rules ... by fafalone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And Trump wants her in jail for her security practices, and railed against them non-stop. It's just as big a problem if anyone else is doing it, and 'but she did it!' stops being an acceptable justification around age 4... although I suppose acting like a toddler isn't unfamiliar for Trump.

  6. Just let him... by XSportSeeker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This shouldn't be a surprise.
    The guy is a pathological narcisist, so of course he'll do as he pleases. The only type of respect he has is self-respect, and fuck the rest.
    He already dismisses everything that was ever done previous to his administration as errors, worst mistakes, wrong, criminal, swamp or whatever.
    And it hasn't been a problem for him every single time he was proven wrong. It's either treated as a joke, or the new norm.
    Nobody knew x could be so complicated. President Trump isn't at fault because he just didn't know better. It's just fake news. It's media persecution. Things we hear every freaking day on the news.
    If it's content he doesn't like, it's fake news. If he does something wrong he was just unaware or it's someone else's fault. Any press that says anything wrong about him is being unfair. Any politician that raises a voice against his command is either a democrat trying to attack him, or a republican traitor. The guy acts exactly like politicians in countries like Venezuela, Phillipines and other proto-dictatorships and populist nations and people are just watching it happen.
    None of this has put him out of his position up to now, leaking smartphone information also won't. At most, some fuzz will be made about it, they'll create some comitee for investigation, and some people will cry foul, but he'll still be there.
    I doubt there's anything there to be leaked or hacked anyways... I mean, anything that foreign countries and whatnot don't already know. People shouldn't expect any sort of internal security from the current administration. You just have to see how many incompetent people are occupying all sorts of positions right now. Why would anyone be under some illusion that US government data isn't already being hacked, stolen, spied upon and even directly willingly sent by people on this administration? I'd believe first that the US government is already, knowingly or not, a puppet of other countries. I'd believe first that every piece of communication is already being monitored, specially around Trump. Look at the people he has surrounded himself with. There's a whole ton of people there now or that has come and gonne that I'd have no problems believing they'd just leak stuff or spy for foreign governments with either profit or because they were being blackmailed.
    Foreign countries probably already have plenty of info on him, it's just more convenient to let the guy wreck havok in US international relations as this weakens US economy and gives more opportunities for foreign countries to strenghten theirs.
    And should Trump do too much against other countries with access to his dirt, the information just comes in handy for blackmailing and whatnot, something I wouldn't doubt already happened anyways.
    His supporters already blindly follow him. I'm willing to be that for the vast majority of them, should news come tomorrow that his phones were hacked and all the info stolen, they'd see no fault in Trump's position. It'd only be something to fuel his and his followers nationalist spew, more reason for isolationism, more fuel for immigrant persecution, more reasons for baseless accusations against foreign companies, and overall more reasons for the FUD that this administration feeds on.
    When people have bought the narrative that every single mistake of the current administration is the fault of someone else, and even some of the most obvious errors and problems there is either fake or intrigue by the opposition, the country already set itself on a downward spiral. It will go on as long as it's to the benefit of those in power.
    I pitty the non-supporters who are currently on this trap without any sight of getting out, but it is what it is.
    And I say this as a non US citizen. I live in a country that has gone through that downward spiral. It has destroyed the entire country's economy, it has put the country as a place no foreign investors wants to deal with, it has provoked a massive runaway of scientists, researchers, technology overall, among other stuff t

  7. Re: I love Trump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    People were just fed up with you sanctimonious asshats.

  8. Re:Ya, but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    yep, the phone being turned into a listening device or used to pinpoint the presidents position is actually a far greater security risk than the email. Don't get me wrong they are both fucking retards for this sort of shit, but Trumps is on a whole other level of stupidity.

  9. Re: Swap the twitter phone while he sleeps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, bad security is inconvenient by design. The best security works with the user. You must work for a corporate IT department.

  10. Re:What's remarkable... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What's remarkable, is the continuing criticism of Trump for this kind of thing. His predecessors were no better - and often worse - but they were given a free pass by the media.

    You're a little late to the party, mr. Whatabout, but I have to applaud this galant attempt to take a bullet for the Idiot in Chief. It's pointless, but yeah, it's galant.

    Obama used an ordinary Blackberry for years.

    Not while he was president.

    Hillary's email server was a disaster.

    Please describe in detail in what way this was a disaster? Please spare me the usual histronics, only the facts please. What bad thing or things happened because she did this? And of course you will provided evidence that these bad things actually happened.

    I'm not in the US, but from here it seems to me that Trump is pissing off all the right people. If the DC establishment and the media dislike him so much, he must be doing something right.

    Well, I suppose that if you're Russian, Iranian, Chinese, or something like that, yeah, he is pissing off all the right people, namely all the people with a functioning brain. Everyone who thinks the world is better of with a somewhat sane USA disagrees, though.

  11. Surprising? by DaMattster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I honestly think no one should be surprised at all. Trump doesn't handle negative feedback very well at all. He is of the type that believes he is right and the world is wrong. This is typical Anti-Social Personality Disorder with Narcissistic Tendencies. Every time someone tries to tell him that what he's doing is wrong or illegal, he tries to undermine and discredit them. Trump has constructed his own reality in which he is a living legend. It's hard to convince someone whom does not have a complete grasp on reality otherwise. In his own mind, Trump even rationalizes his own failures as successes of a sort. Whether you think this is flamebait or not, it's actually psychology.

  12. Re: Swap the twitter phone while he sleeps by cdwiegand · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ah, so in your company the CEO apparently gets to ignore any rule he wants. See, in reasonable companies, the CEO hires people who are experts in their field, and if they set rules he has to obey them, because THEY KNOW MORE THAN HE DOES. Otherwise why bother to hire them in the first place.

    And the President isnâ(TM)t a King or Emperor - even he has to obey rules that he doesnâ(TM)t like, or approve. He has a specific role to fill and itâ(TM)s not to dictate what happens, but to Lead the country and Execute the laws thereof. Not to tweet every effing thing that comes to his head - thatâ(TM)s actually the job of his Press Secretary.

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  13. Keep your eye on the ball by nine-times · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You have a president who colluded with the Russian Intelligence to get himself elected, and since has used the office in blatantly illegal ways to enrich himself. He's showed distain for all ethical rules and social mores. He's taken it on himself to dismantle our institutions, and fill the government with unethical stupid people who are blindly loyal to him. As law enforcement investigates his crimes, he's been disrupting the investigation and undermining law enforcement in general, while preparing to fire any law enforcement personnel involved in the investigation. Oh, and he's been talking about installing himself as dictator for life.

    And you're surprised that he's tweeting from an insecure phone? You're worried about that?

    Let's keep our eye on the ball here. If you quibble over trivial things, it reenforces the idea that his opponents simply "don't like him" for personal reasons. It's not personal. He's a criminal. He needs to go to jail.

  14. Re: Swap the twitter phone while he sleeps by kilfarsnar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think Trump is an absolute piece of shit, but it is incredibly ignorant to dismiss him as stupid or insane. He is obviously neither, and it's fools like you that helped get him elected.

    Look at how much control we have over people on the right. Look at it! They don't make their own decisions, they do what we tell them to do (though we have to use reverse psychology). Witness the power of the political left!

    Next election, I'm going to tell all my Trump-loving relatives that I, as a lefty, think he is awesome, and that they'd be totally doing the smart thing by voting for him. I'll tell them they'd have to be idiots to vote for the Democrat, but that they probably will because they're so dumb. That should do it, don't you think? I mean, I keep hearing that the left is responsible for his election, because we made those on the right feel so disrespected, they had to vote him in. Because they care so much what we think.

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  15. Re:Did you really just sat THAT? Works for her bos by greythax · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The same George Soros who signed and sent a petition (along with 400 other ultra rich) to congress begging them NOT to give them a tax cut? This is the example you site when you are trying to debunk that the claim she wouldn't have cut taxes for the ultra rich?

    It's possible that the information your present is a little more nuanced than you believe it to be.