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Giant Predatory Worms Are Invading France (qz.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Quartz: In a Peer J study published on May 22, "Giant worms chez moi!" zoologist Jean-Lou Justine of the Museum National d'Histoire Naturelle in Paris, entomologist colleagues, and Pierre Gros, outline a discovery that "highlights an unexpected blind spot of scientists and authorities facing an invasion by conspicuous large invasive animals." About 100 citizen scientists ultimately contributed to the assessment of this alien invasion, identifying five giant predatory worm species in France that grow up to 10 inches long. The study relied on contributors' worm sightings, reported "mainly by email, sometimes by telephone." Researchers requested photographs and details about locality. In 2013, the Washington Post reports, "a group of terrorized kindergartners claimed they saw a mass of writhing snakes in their play field." These were giant flatworms! The study concludes that the alien creatures appear to reproduce asexually. They prey on other, smaller earthworms, stunning them with toxins. "The planarian also produces secretions from its headplate and body that adhere it to the prey, despite often sudden violent movements of the latter during this stage of capture," researcher note. In other words, the hammerheads produce a substance that allows them to stick to victims while killing them. The study points out that invasive alien flatworms have been spotted in New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Brazil, and Australia. But the five species of hammerhead flatworms invading France are giants, growing up to 27 centimeters.

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  1. Sauteed in butter? by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 4, Funny

    A few herbs and spices, feature as a delicacy problem solved.

    1. Re:Sauteed in butter? by mejustme · · Score: 4, Funny

      A few herbs and spices [...]

      Once upon a time there may have been a series of SF books about giant worms and spices...!

    2. Re:Sauteed in butter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      Flashbacks to Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri.

    3. Re:Sauteed in butter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nothing that you have quoted rules it out from being included in French cuisine.

    4. Re:Sauteed in butter? by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 2
      Nope :-(

      Giant predatory worms invaded France, but scientists just noticed them:

      What they lack in physical defenses, they make up in a cocktail of disgusting bodily juices. A colleague once tried to put a flatworm in his mouth, Justine recounted. The man still describes it as “one of the worst experiences of his life.”

    5. Re:Sauteed in butter? by ffkom · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Chinese for the rescue! No matter how awkward that stuff tastes, just tell them it's an expensive aphrodisiac, and see those worms being decimated within months!

    6. Re:Sauteed in butter? by zifn4b · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or we could just start mass producing Slurm

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    7. Re:Sauteed in butter? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nope :-(

      Giant predatory worms invaded France, but scientists just noticed them:

      What they lack in physical defenses, they make up in a cocktail of disgusting bodily juices. A colleague once tried to put a flatworm in his mouth, Justine recounted. The man still describes it as “one of the worst experiences of his life.”

      Sounds like French food to me!

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  2. On news of the invasion, by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2, Funny

    White flags broke out across the country.

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    1. Re:On news of the invasion, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      White flags broke out across the country.

      France has fought a hell of a lot more wars than America and they didn't hang back in either WW1 or WW2.

    2. Re:On news of the invasion, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Stop talking crap and trying to rewrite history.

      America was actively working WITH the Germans until it got forced in to the war (thanks mostly to the Japanese).
      US companies were supplying Germany with war materials, helping run factories, and supplying critical fuel additives.

      Once the tables were turning (mostly thanks to the Russians, and the russian weather..) the Americans certainly
      got involved..

      No one says American help was not needed, but it is VERY interesting just how long it took to arrive...
      And no, America didnt 'Invade Europe' either, they were involved, but most certainly not single handed.

      So why dont you just Fuck Off already.
      I wonder just how well The NAZIs would have done without US fuel (specifically TEL addititives) and US trucks for their troop movements..

    3. Re:On news of the invasion, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Stop talking crap and trying to rewrite history.

      America was actively working WITH the Germans until it got forced in to the war (thanks mostly to the Japanese).
      US companies were supplying Germany with war materials, helping run factories, and supplying critical fuel additives.

      Once the tables were turning (mostly thanks to the Russians, and the russian weather..) the Americans certainly
      got involved..

      No one says American help was not needed, but it is VERY interesting just how long it took to arrive...
      And no, America didnt 'Invade Europe' either, they were involved, but most certainly not single handed.

      So why dont you just Fuck Off already.
      I wonder just how well The NAZIs would have done without US fuel (specifically TEL addititives) and US trucks for their troop movements..

      The US was reluctantly working with England with the lend/lease program. Not Germany. And to be fair, Russia needs due credit for the lives lost to defeat Germany. They suffered more than almost any other country.

    4. Re:On news of the invasion, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Without even a token resistance"

      https://www.quora.com/Were-the-French-involved-at-Dunkirk

      "The French army (and navy, which sent nearly as many ships as Great Britain), were the Allied resistance at Dunkirk, with some minor assistance from the British and Belgian forces. The French fought bravely - and well - to secure the safe evacuation of so many Allied troops"

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-32956736

      "The fall of France 75 years ago is conventionally seen as a moment of abject national disgrace. But today some insist the French military has been wronged - and that the hundreds of thousands of French troops who fought in the Battle of France deserve to be honoured, rather than forgotten."

      "About 360,000 French casualties, including between 55,000 to 85,000 dead and 12,000 missing."

      https://www.quora.com/How-many-French-soldiers-died-during-the-battle-of-France-in-1940

      In 1940, France was attacked by Germany and Italy at the same time (Total population twice bigger or more). UK had a natural shelter and could evacuate somewhere. Not the French who were attacked by Italy in the South. USA, due to its size and Atlantic Ocean natural barrier, never had to face this situation.

      And also, German industry got a little help:
      https://www.adl.org/news/op-ed/ford-and-the-third-reich
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/nov98/nazicars30.htm
      https://libcom.org/library/allied-multinationals-supply-nazi-germany-world-war-2
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Germany#Use_of_forced_labor_during_World_War_II
      http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-american-companies-that-aided-the-nazis.php
      http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/general-motors-and-the-third-reich

    5. Re:On news of the invasion, by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 4, Interesting

      France has fought a hell of a lot more wars than America and they didn't hang back in either WW1 or WW2.

      Apparently you've never heard of the Phoney War, so I'll tell you how it all went down:

      Germany invades Poland and conquers it in 5 weeks. France and England largely stood by and did nothing, except for a small operation called the Saar Offensive, which officially began the Phoney War. This offensive was so light that it didn't even tickle Germany. The USSR (on friendly terms with Germany at this point) invaded Finland, and then Germany invaded Denmark and Norway. This caused France to get cold feet, so they picked up what meager forces they sent and ran home.

      That is a very brief summary of what happened, and you'll find it to be accurate if you research it. Granted, I've omitted many details, obviously, because of how short I wrote it, but it's hard to overstate how little of an effort that France and England made to stop Germany for TEN MONTHS after the invasion of Poland began. Anyways, immediately after France withdrew, they assumed their WWI playbook and hunkered down in the trenches in the Maginot line. It didn't work though: France didn't bother to fortify the region near Belgium's border thinking Germany wouldn't go there, but neutral Belgium and Holland seemed ok with allowing Germany's forces to quickly shift to the west and bypass the Maginot line entirely. In spite of France having a large and well armed and prepared Army (which they never tried to use to break Polish invasion,) they surrendered in 6 weeks.

      So in other words, Europe as a whole sat on its ass (except for Germany, Austria, and their allies) for TEN FREAKING MONTHS! It's one thing for a country separated by an entire ocean, but good fuckin lord, practically the only reason a European country would take action during this period was after they were already invaded.

      It was only after the fall of France that a serious allied war effort actually began. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor about 14 months after that. The US was isolationist at the time because we wanted nothing to do with your kings, queens, kaisers, and fuhrers because they looked all the same to us, and still do: But the lesson we took from Pearl Harbor is that even if you don't want a war, you're going to get one anyways. This meant we had to, among other things, assist the fucking USSR that we had to go to proxy wars with while we funded Europe's reconstruction with the Marshall plan, even though it wasn't our fault that they decided to blow themselves up. Here we are, 80 years later, and one third of Europe wants to be fascist again. And that is NOT an exaggeration:

      https://www.nytimes.com/intera...

      Now that Europeans aren't allowed to see what today's fascists actually say because it's censored, then all they see is the mild stuff that they sympathize with, and then they start liking them. What the fuck did you think was going to happen when you banned hate speech? Just because you don't see or hear the fascists doesn't mean they aren't there (for the most part, the only fascists you actually see in Europe call themselves antifa.) Some things never change...

      I don't hate Europe or Europeans by the way, just the stupid ones who think tossing dog feces under the rug makes it go away, and then proceed to tell you that their house doesn't actually smell like shit.

    6. Re:On news of the invasion, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The US government was seeking to aid the UK. Some individual US companies aided Germany (but very few). After WW2 a US company successfully sued the US government for bombing its fighter plane factories in Germany, and was awarded compensation.

  3. trivial to solve by WindBourne · · Score: 3, Informative

    Get a french chief, give him Armagnac, and then tell him that the worm tastes just like ortolan bunting.
    Issue solved.

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  4. Thats not a worm, THIS is a worm by azcrill · · Score: 5, Interesting

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Here in Victoria they can grow up to 3 metres in length. 27cm worms are runts.

    1. Re:Thats not a worm, THIS is a worm by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      You think the Giant Gippsland Earthworm is bad you should check out the Sandworms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  5. Shai Hulud by Darkling-MHCN · · Score: 3, Funny

    The worm is the spice the spice is the worm!

    Let me know when these little guys get big enough to ride.

  6. Partially true. Weak, scared leadership ran away by raymorris · · Score: 4, Informative

    The French were weakened by WWI, but had rebuilt quite a bit. The German army had taken heavy damage from the invasion of Poland and other battles. Hitler's top military commanders told him they couldn't invade Belgium and France until they had about two years to rebuild their strength. By the numbers, the two sides were roughly matched in the Battle of France:

    Germany: 141 divisions
    7,378 guns
    2,445 tanks
    5,638 aircraft
    3,350,000 troops

    Allies: 144 divisions
    13,974 guns
    3,383â"4,071 French tanks
    2,935 aircraft
    3,300,000 troops

    The French expected a German assault would be much slower, with Belgian resistance giving the French time to prepare before the German army could advance through Belgium to France. In fact, the Luftwaffe were able to defeat Belgium very quickly, so things were not going the way French leaders expected when Germany was suddenly near their border. Since things weren't going according to plan, there was confusion and disorder in the French military in the first few days. Some French commanders and soldiers fought the best they could, without much national leadership.

    Rather than taking charge and getting a new plan organized and in action, two days after the Germans attacked French prime minister Paul Reynaud called Winston Churchill and said "we have been defeated". The Germans had barely entered France when Reynaud gave up. Shortly afterward, the French leadership fled the country. After the leadership fled, the individual military units didn't (couldn't?) mount an effective defense acting separately.

    The French people as a culture may not necessarily be cowards, but certainly Prime Minister Reynaud and other leaders behaved very cowardly and ineffectively.

    In contrast, even after France was in fact occupied by the Nazis, Charles De Gaul refused to give up, urging resistance by individual French people within the occupied territory and organizing units of French people from outside France to join the allies in a campaign to liberate France from the Germans. Had de Gaulle been Prime Minister rather than Reynaud, the history of WW2 might have been very different, and the French might have a very different reputation today.

  7. Re:There are predatory things invading France by Z80a · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not really.
    They can come in all colors, as long they follow the same book that tell em to remove all the rest.

  8. Re:The origins of by vux984 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Uh... no...that came out 17 years ago:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Tremors 6 came out a few few weeks ago.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    So the next movie will be Tremors 7.

  9. I second this. by Qbertino · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The French did a fair job in preventing Paris not getting bombed to chunky kibbles.

    Pre-war Nazi Germany was basically Isis + perfect organization + highest standard high tech military and organizational skills + 80 million people. Losing out in a blitzkrieg to an opponent of that magnitude isn't all that shameful.

    To emphasize: In Operation Paukenschlag the US captured a German Sub. They couldn't copy it because it was too high tech. That's how advanced German military was back then. It's only thanks to the all-out stupidity and lunacy of Hitler and his goons that Germany lost despite having the most effective military force at the time. Luckily. If Hitler had had his 7 senses about him, Europe would be Nazi territory today. What happened though was that the Germans willingly went to serve as a tool for the globally extended suicide of a madman.

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    1. Re:I second this. by Solandri · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's only thanks to the all-out stupidity and lunacy of Hitler and his goons that Germany lost despite having the most effective military force at the time.

      The West doesn't like to admit it, but the Soviet Union played a huge role in stopping Hitler. After he steamrolled Europe, he got cocky and invaded Asia. The Soviets threw bodies at him (soldiers were frequently sent in unarmed and told to pick up a rifle from a comrade who'd been killed) and eventually managed to stop his army and starve it during a brutal winter. Look at the Allied military casualty figures from WWII.

      U.S.: 407,300 killed, 671,800 wounded
      UK: 383,700 killed, 376,239 wounded
      France: 210,000, 390,000 wounded
      Soviet Union: estimated 8.6 to 11.4 million killed, 14.7 million wounded

      And no it wasn't because the Soviets were incompetent. Other Eastern European countries which were overrun (Poland, Romania, Yugoslavia, Hungary) also suffered casualties on par with the U.S., UK, and France. And the Latvian countries lost over 10% of their total populations. If you look at German casualties, the Germans lost more than 8x as many soldiers on the Eastern front than it did on the Western front. The vast majority of the fighting happened to the east of Germany.

      Yes D-Day gave the Allies a crucial Western foothold turning Europe into a two-front war (technically three-front since Italy had been invaded the previous year). But if the Soviets hadn't been keeping Hitler busy on the Eastern front, most of his armies would've been on the western beaches, and D-Day would've been a massacre.

    2. Re:I second this. by Zorpheus · · Score: 4, Informative

      As Solandri already stated Germany was beaten by sheer manpower, but also a lack of resources.
      Germany was always low on fuel. They produced fuel and plastics out of coal in more expensive processes. The Ardennes ambush was only possible because they conquered fuel depots of the Americans to supply their tanks.
      The Me262 engine had to be replaced every week because Germany did not have access to the metals needed for heat-resistant alloys.
      The Russians just built much more tanks and planes (the planes were powered by American enignes). And the Americans were just producing more ships than the Germans could sink with their subs. Oh, the Russian T34 tank was also superior to anything else when it arrived, the Germans had to construct stronger tanks to keep up with that.

    3. Re:I second this. by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 2

      They couldn't copy it because it was too high tech.

      They wouldn't copy it because it couldn't do the things a US submarine needed to do. Y'know, little things like cross the Pacific without running out of fuel....and then come back across the Pacific on the way home...on the same tank of gas....

      ---an ex-submariner

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  10. Re:There are predatory things invading France by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hey! Look! Another liberal that's too dumb to understand that skin color and culture aren't the same thing. Poor, dumb liberals. Worst racists there are.

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  11. Re:There are predatory things invading France by michelcolman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, and we should be tolerant of their intolerance, because otherwise we would be intolerant and that would be bad since we're white.

    I, for one, welcome our new intolerant overlords.

  12. Re:There are predatory things invading France by butzwonker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Alas, the people who complain the most about other cultures tend to have the least of it on their own. Many of them don't even read novels. It's a sad truth that you can see that everywhere.

    In contrast to that, the people who actually produce and advance culture, who write books and poems, who compose music, create fine arts, and make movies have almost without exception always been international cosmopolitans. Many of them have lived in different countries during their life, and the vast majority are very tolerant. Goethe's travel diaries are a good example of that attitude, for instance, and since we're talking about France it is also worth mentioning that Alexandre Dumas was the son of a French nobleman and a black slave from Haiti.

    The moral of the story is that before even starting to think about complaining about other people's cultures, you should make damn sure that you have some of your own first.

  13. Serious question by Big+Nemo+'60 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If I understand correctly, these invasive species feed on native earthworms.

    If I remember correctly, earthworms have a relevant role in the conservation of top soil.

    Will these invasive species have an impact on the conservation of top soil?

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  14. France? Sacre Bleu, Eetz a terrorwist invasion by cyberchondriac · · Score: 2

    It's them Musworms :-D

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  15. Re:Partially true. Weak, scared leadership ran awa by PPH · · Score: 2

    The French refused to kowtow to the USA after WWII. While the British agreed to major concessions, including freeing it's colonies, the French did not. In fact, the USA got dragged into VietNam by de Gaulle's threat to ally with the Soviet Union if we didn't back them up in their attempt to re-acquire French Indochina.

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  16. Re:Partially true. Weak, scared leadership ran awa by fred6666 · · Score: 2

    and the French might have a very different reputation today.

    That reputation only exists in the USA. And it was popularized after the French refused to invade Iraq. Something the USA now acknowledges as a big mistake (waste of money, no WMD found).

  17. Re:There are predatory things invading France by ScentCone · · Score: 2

    it illustrates very well how irrelevant cultural differences are

    Right. Because our culture now generally tolerates things like, say, being gay. Whereas other cultures cheer when gay people are thrown from rooftops. I'm sure, as you headed through the air to your death, you'd probably have some different thoughts about how irrelevant it is that a particular culture holds that you should die because of your sexual preferences.

    Gotta love progressive moral relativism. More than happy to let other people die as long as they can use "not being judgey" as a crutch for their own hypocritical politics.

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  18. Re:Partially true. Weak, scared leadership ran awa by G00F · · Score: 2

    that french reputation existed before before US invaded Iraq. And was also quite popular in UK, not just the US.

    But yes, the leadership of France did create the stigma, not the front linemen.

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  19. Re:Partially true. Weak, scared leadership ran awa by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

    The German army had taken heavy damage from the invasion of Poland
    No they/we did not. Poland attacked the german tanks with cavalry and lances.
    I don't know if they had a single tank or fight ready plane (as in a plane with weapons and not only scout plane).

    The Germans had barely entered France when Reynaud gave up.
    That is nonsense.

    In contrast, even after France was in fact occupied by the Nazis,
    Only north France was occupied. South France was under reign by the Vichy Government. They collaborated with Germany in some way.

    and the French might have a very different reputation today.
    In the US ...
    No one in Europe, and the least the French, care what reputation France has in the US.

    France is the center of Europe, cultural, in spirit, educational, and most certainly in food and wine. And besides the idiotic UK who are leaving, they have the finest armed forces in Europe. They have a superb reputation. Not at last due to 'la Resistance'. However they could have handled Vietnam and the rest of Indochina better and not drop nukes in north Africa.

    De Gaulle was an asshole, he lost Algeria which probably would now be a kind of "part of France", and most certainly part of the EU. Why? Because he did not want to give them voting rights!

    Like the US messed up Asia, and together with the Brits, the middle east, he messed up north Africa. Gaddafi in Lybia probably hat never made anything interesting if De Gaulle.

    If de Gaulle had not turned out into a power hungry semi dictator, the world would be a different place.

    But alas, that has nothing to do with the French's reputation in the rest of Europe.

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  20. Re:There are predatory things invading France by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

    Same here in Germany, we have about 60 packs. Some estimate it is about 600 animals in total.
    Sad is, one pack killed a whole herd of sheep a few weeks ago. Of course the farmers get refunded, but it is ofc annoying and not good for the project.

    Luckily the lynx are more quiet :D We have about 100 in Germany, but some idiots try to poisson them or even hunt them.

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