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The US Military is Funding an Effort To Catch Deepfakes and Other AI Trickery (technologyreview.com)

The Department of Defense is funding a project that will try to determine whether the increasingly real-looking fake video and audio generated by artificial intelligence might soon be impossible to distinguish from the real thing -- even for another AI system. From a report: This summer, under a project funded by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), the world's leading digital forensics experts will gather for an AI fakery contest. They will compete to generate the most convincing AI-generated fake video, imagery, and audio -- and they will also try to develop tools that can catch these counterfeits automatically. The contest will include so-called "deepfakes," videos in which one person's face is stitched onto another person's body.

Rather predictably, the technology has already been used to generate a number of counterfeit celebrity porn videos. But the method could also be used to create a clip of a politician saying or doing something outrageous. DARPA's technologists are especially concerned about a relatively new AI technique that could make AI fakery almost impossible to spot automatically. Using what are known as generative adversarial networks, or GANs, it is possible to generate stunningly realistic artificial imagery.

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  1. Fake News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Considering the Fake News are already using edited videos of Trump as the sources for their fake news, the problem is much deeper than the deepfake videos.

    1. Re:Fake News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering the Fake News are already using edited videos of Trump as the sources for their fake news, the problem is much deeper than the deepfake videos.

      What if Hillary is really running the country secretly right now, and all the News Video we see about Trump is really Hillary and she's been deep-faked by all the major news sources to look like Trump. Trump might be locked away in Guantanamo Bay right now- while Hillary runs the country from DC getting all the news sources to deep fake Trump's head onto her body.

      #freedonaldtrump

  2. Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by DalM · · Score: 0

    This is a big problem. And our society isn't prepared for it.
    Congress needs to move fast to make it a felony to create photo-realistic likenesses of people (user or AI generated) without their permission. If you want to parody someone, all you have to do is cartoon-ize their face a little bit so that it's clear that it's a parody and not real.

    Creating or sharing photo-realistic AI generated porn should be sexual assault.

    1. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by olsmeister · · Score: 2

      You think it'll be acceptable when kids can make and share real-looking videos of their teachers getting plowed by Ron Jeremy?

    2. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      Make no mistake, the DoD is concerned with this problem because they realize that better fake imagery means the death of the surveillance state.

      This said, there's going to be a new market for camera signing or other methods to confirm that video footage is actually original.

    3. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      Not now. But maybe in 10 years time sharing a deepfake porn of someone will be considered the equivalent of writing "Such-and-such sucks c*ock for a fiver" on the bathroom wall.

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    4. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Our right to freedom of speech doesn't end just because some may find our speech to be embarrassing or shocking. Generating these videos is a God given free speech right. Congress shall make no law!

    5. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Jeremi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How about -- in 10 years time nobody will be able to believe anything they read, hear, or see, at which point democracy becomes unworkable. As Jefferson famously said, a properly functioning democracy depends on an informed electorate -- but it's nearly impossible for anyone to be well-informed when every valid piece of information is competing with a cloud of equally-plausible forgeries, and even people operating in good faith can no longer discern what is or isn't real.

      We are already seeing this occurring, with segments of society breaking off into their own enclosed media-bubbles, the walls of which become increasingly impermeable to inconvenient facts or reasoning, as any evidence that would traditionally cause them to adjust their worldview now simply gets dismissed as 'fake'. I see no reason to think it won't get worse over time.

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    6. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Creating or sharing photo-realistic AI generated porn should be sexual assault.

      I prefer that we leave the definition of sexual assault alone.

      In a rape joke culture, it's already hard enough to get actual sexual assault (i.e.: a physical assault with a sexual intent) taken seriously.

      We don't need something that isn't a physical assault masquerading as a sexual assault, giving people the idea that sexual assault isn't serious.

    7. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Crock? Clock? Chock?

    8. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      it's nearly impossible for anyone to be well-informed when every valid piece of information is competing with a cloud of equally-plausible forgeries, and even people operating in good faith can no longer discern what is or isn't real.

      You seem to be describing our current state, not the future.

      The solution is simple: A well-informed electorate.

      That means you actually have to, you know, work at knowledge, rather than drooling and giggling and clapping like a moron at the 24/7 "news" cycle.

    9. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Jeremi · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The solution is simple: A well-informed electorate.

      Okay, but that's begging the question -- how do you gain (or maintain) a well-informed electorate when the forgeries have become so realistic that distinguishing between a forgery and an authentic piece of information takes more skill than most people possess? Simply demanding that people become exponentially smarter isn't going to make them so, no matter how severely we chastise them.

      Usually when people realize they don't have the skill to make a reliable determination about something for themselves, they look to a knowledgeable expert (or at least, a trustworthy authority figure) to help them make the right determination... but here again we now run into the same problem -- who is actually a valid expert or a trustworthy authority figure, and who is faking it? And even if the person in question is valid and trustworthy, how does the average person verify that what they are hearing that person say are things that person actually said, and not clever forgeries designed to mislead people?

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    10. Re: Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Dallas May raped me. Accusation is guilt. Toss 'em in the Gulag!

    11. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How about -- in 10 years time nobody will be able to believe anything they read, hear, or see, at which point democracy becomes unworkable. As Jefferson famously said, a properly functioning democracy depends on an informed electorate -- but it's nearly impossible for anyone to be well-informed when every valid piece of information is competing with a cloud of equally-plausible forgeries, and even people operating in good faith can no longer discern what is or isn't real.

      You, sir, have just summed up the entire way Donald Trump became president.

      Don't like a new story? Call it fake news.

      Don't like the facts? Call it fake news.

      Need some evidence for something which isn't true? Pay a think tank to produce a report which sounds plausible.

      Don't agree with an expert's conclusion? Call them 'elites' as if that makes what they say not count.

      I'd wager a significant portion of the US populace is no longer an 'informed electorate'. They are either wilfully in denial of things they wish weren't true ... or they have no idea they believe in things which aren't true, and are provably untrue.

      The US is already living in a world where facts and evidence are conflated with opinion and belief. And that is truly scary. The muzhiks will just follow along with what the leader says, because they simply don't know better, and don't care because they've been told "la la la" is a perfectly valid rebuttal to facts and evidence.

      Some significant portion of America have voluntarily decided to be fucking morons.

    12. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by religionofpeas · · Score: 2

      how does the average person verify that what they are hearing that person say are things that person actually said, and not clever forgeries designed to mislead people?

      A public key signature by the person doing the talking ?

    13. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. Why the fuck not? Sounds like you're the child here, not ready to accept that the world is a big, complicated place, that you can't bend to your own personal will.

    14. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      50 years from now, people will be neural-linked, and everyone will know immediately when they're thought of, fantasised about, hated, wrong, right, went viral, and more. Making porn of people could be a 200-microsecond collaboration between thousands of individuals around the world AS THEY WATCH a new movie star in a new movie for the first time. Oh, and the movie, and the porn will be volumetric 3d imagination-ware, almost indistinguishable from reality.

      We need to grow the fuck up if we're going to be prepared for any of this. But hey... if we don't, we'll be forced to, by millions of other human minds directly questioning every neural association we've formed. So it's all good. Except for the one who refuses to grow up before then, or teaches their kids not to grow up before then. For those people, there'll be some serious culture shock when the time comes.

    15. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if the AI creates a photo-realistic imaginary person that shouldn't exists, but coincidentally has some similarity to multiple real persons? Would that be a class-action suit in making?

    16. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      Whatever floats your boat

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    17. Re: Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You really need to get some perspective.

      How is making a (technically sophisticated) even in the same league as attacking someone?

      What about people who happen to look like famous people? Are they banned from making porn? Twins?

      Get a grip. If you are so fragile that you can't live with the idea of someone using your image in ways you don't like, you clearly have few actual problems to complain about.

      People near you are being attacked, starving and dying of preventable diseases. Your imaginary problems are not worth the electrons I am using to debate them.

    18. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like we got a SJW here who think they can write their own fake laws for fake generated videos. Go fuck yourself.

    19. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Creating or sharing photo-realistic AI generated porn should be sexual assault.

      And while we're at it, let's ban even imagining having sex with someone without his permission! /s

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    20. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Deepfake porn is the porn of a new generation. It is the porn of my generation. We don't need government intrusion into it. Let the free market decide. You liberals and your laws.

      Because today's young people are no longer having sex, it stands to reason that their porn should be fake also.

    21. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Creating or sharing photo-realistic AI generated porn should be sexual assault.

      While AI-generated porn may constitute defamation in the case you describe, an "assault" requires a physical attack. Creating and sharing original creative works inside of a computer system isn't a physical attack. While it may be embarrassing and hurt your reputation, by definition, it's not an assault.

      Congress needs to move fast to make it a felony to create photo-realistic likenesses of people (user or AI generated) without their permission. If you want to parody someone, all you have to do is cartoon-ize their face a little bit so that it's clear that it's a parody and not real.

      You could also add a little disclaimer at the beginning of the video making clear it's a parody. There's no need for "Congress to move fast" or create any new laws or restrictions on our free speech.

      This is a big problem. And our society isn't prepared for it.

      Now, that's something we can agree on.

      Too many get their news from a single source and lack the basic skills to interpret and vet the news themselves (despite years of government-mandated schooling, sadly). Therefore, they are not only susceptible to fake news, but now also deep fakes.

    22. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure.

      I agree with your basic premise, but if it's as easy and realistic as people claim, it will be so prevalent as to not really even be seen as a problem for the victims I suspect (maybe I'm naive and optimistic, I'm willing to accept that).

      Today, I'm sure it would be horribly traumatizing, but in a decade I suspect it will culturally be along the lines of someone claiming to have slept with you that hasn't (bullying/harassment, not assault).

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    23. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Congress shall make no law..."

      Exactly. Which is why this question is clickbait, and the poster is a clickbait troll, trying to infuriate users with illogical posts.

    24. Re: Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not the job of the government to be deciding what information can be shared between consenting adults. I can make racist jokes, sexist comments, use the word retard in a 90's context, and have otherwise unfiltered conversation with my brothers. Our sense of humor would probably land us in jail in Canada.

      Welcome to the world. Dont be a bitch. You're not entitled to never be offended. In fact, if you're American, it's a civic duty for you to engage your fellow citizens and expose yourself to all sorts of things that can potentially offend.

      Moreso, American civics theory suggests that when everyone gets over their own outrage and engages each other in rational compromise, society's best good is the result.

      The government shouldn't ever be an arbiter of information legitimacy or propriety. That's the place of culture - you know, that thing that happens when people talk among themselves as adults, and agree, formally or otherwise, to behave according to certain rules.

      Our society is fractured. There's a loneliness epidemic among all adults, and almost half are cloistered, hardly interacting with the world when offline. America's parents failed to socialize their children. They failed to instill cultural flexibility. They failed in adapting to the ubiquity of the internet, and no wonder - nobody could have foreseen the current state of American society.

      I'd like to think that we're historically aware enough to establish that government doesn't need to be involved in the expression of proper behaviors, and that the exchange of information should be an inviolable line in the sand.

      You're equating deepfakes with criminal trespass. What about talented artists, or people with perverse, but richly deep imaginations? What about fan erotica? Who are you to decide what other people use to get off?

      So if it's shared freely, from properly sourced, legally licensed media, and no profit is gained, then there should be no legal right to interfere with the content. If licenses are violated, there's already a mechanism within the current framework of laws by which material can be suppressed.

      We don't need to go farther, and we definitely don't need element back in the business of regulating and suppressing pornography.

    25. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a repute based organization with the responsibility of disseminating information rationally. we could call the process journalism and the venue News.

    26. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In 10 years time? This isn't new. You just described religion in a nutshell.

    27. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      What name do you prefer? "Involuntary pornography" perhaps?

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    28. Re:Sharing Deep-Fake porn should be Sexual Assult by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you write as if it wasn't just as easy to fake something in the time before the Internet, when all you have to do is look at how academia and science has evolved from the times of Galileo until now. You see, the technology plays no part in the actual equation as over time it changes and gets better but it is really the mindset that drives the informed electorate. What we have is essentially a dichotomy of philosophies, one that wants control and one that wants freedom. The one that wants freedom encourages us to question everything and make our own decisions after examining a wide breadth of information and using our own logic as well as an understanding of scientific consensus to come to the correct answer. The philosophy of control wants you to get your information from only one source and to believe that all others are fake and trying to mislead you. So in the end the technology has a minute effect on the population when the education system already pumps out people who are ready to be controlled. The education system needs to be fixed to encourage a freedom of ideas and affirming a drive towards the truth through questioning. The big problem is that those ideals do not work for the corporations who want worker drones to control and who are also heavily invested into our education system at every level.

      For and informed electorate, fix the education system first, then bother worrying about the technology. Otherwise you are only addressing the symptoms and not the problem (which also has analogies to the health care system as profits are best maintained by treating symptoms and not solving the problem)

  3. They already do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But the method could also be used to create a clip of a politician saying or doing something outrageous

    They do it constantly in certain parts of the world that faking them to discredit them is really not necessary. We could also try to grow up if the Internet wouldn't forbid that.

  4. Our politicians already say outrageous things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No need to fake it. Our citizenry expect it, because the United States is turning into a full blown Idiocracy, and both the left and right are bring drawn into it, compelled by moronic (but good sounding to one group of people) views.

    P.s. the whole point of the GAN paradigm is that it can produce more convincing fakes by first improving the algorithm that detects fakes and then splicing the improved version into the system.

  5. I spot those deep fakes instantly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can always tell by the pixels, and I've seen quite a few video-shops in my time.

  6. Encrypted Authenticity Verification Networks by resistant · · Score: 1

    The thought occurs that an inevitable explosion of fake video and audio recordings will drive the development of encrypted authentication networks that verify that a supposed recording came from a sealed, supposedly tamper-proof recording device from a manufacturer whose production lines, parts suppliers, and design teams are closely monitored by government agencies and nonprofit organizations against the possibility of firmware tampering. Recordings produced by unvetted devices will be automatically assumed by courts and other interested parties to be inherently unreliable and very likely fake in all cases of controversy.

    The enormous growth of computing power guarantees that this kind of seamless video and audio fakery will become mainstream faster than you might think. Heck, I'm looking forward to 2020 or 2021 at the latest as the year I can browse to a free spoofing website to make up a video of Hillary Rodham Clinton staggering in a drunken haze into the welcoming arms of Vladimir Putin on the steps of the Kremlin. Next, I'll play around with videos of Donald Trump soaring like a bird around the dome of the United States Capitol, whooping loudly and dropping dookies on passersby below. Then I'll gussy up an ultra-realistic video showing a mean neighbor porking a horrified dog and send that along to the ASPCA and to the local cops. They might not believe an unverified video in the age of universal fakes, but hey. Fun days!

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    1. Re:Encrypted Authenticity Verification Networks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The thought occurs that an inevitable explosion of fake video and audio recordings will drive the development of encrypted authentication networks that verify that a supposed recording came from a sealed, supposedly tamper-proof recording device from a manufacturer whose production lines, parts suppliers, and design teams are closely monitored by government agencies and nonprofit organizations against the possibility of firmware tampering

      Oh goody, I was worried that RIAA was loosing opportunities to push more DRM on the world

    2. Re:Encrypted Authenticity Verification Networks by thomst · · Score: 1

      resistant hypothesized:

      The thought occurs that an inevitable explosion of fake video and audio recordings will drive the development of encrypted authentication networks that verify that a supposed recording came from a sealed, supposedly tamper-proof recording device from a manufacturer whose production lines, parts suppliers, and design teams are closely monitored by government agencies and nonprofit organizations against the possibility of firmware tampering. Recordings produced by unvetted devices will be automatically assumed by courts and other interested parties to be inherently unreliable and very likely fake in all cases of controversy.

      I don't think you have a lot of experience with how courts work in actual practice - or legislatures, either.

      Judges are basically free to accept or reject evidence according to their own rules. In the USA, for instance, some of them still admit latent fingerprint testimony, despite the fact that an AAAS panel of expert forensic scientists has completely debunked the science behind it. Another such AAAS panel also determined that much of the "science" behind forensic arson analysis is equally worthless. And the National Commission on Forensic Science - whose members included career prosecutors, forensics experts, and criminal defense groups - called for the establishment of a comprehensive, national set of forensic standards for evidence submitted to criminal justice courts.

      And don't get me started on bite mark analysis.

      (Jeff Sessions has disbanded the NCFS, and is planning to replace it with a panel composed of prosecutors and forensics "experts", because, of course he has.)

      Despite all the accumulated evidence that much of forensic science is largely based on handwaving and bullshit, there are no prohibitions against its use in criminal courts, even for capital crimes.

      Meanwhile, I can't speak knowledgeably about other countries' criminal justice systems (although I'm pretty sure that Commonwealth countries and a bunch of EU member states have equally screwed up standards), but here in the USA, there is little sign that either state legislatures or Congress have any trace of will to fix these problems - although, to be fair, the Texas Forensic Science Commission, of all unlikely bellwethers, has determined that bite mark analysis has no scientific basis, and recommended that it be banned from being used in state courts.

      Naturally, the Texas legislature has not enacted the recommended ban, so even Texas criminal court judges are still free to admit bite mark analysis into evidence - including in capital cases.

      So, your prediction seems to me to have little in the way of either fact or precedent to support it.

      Not to mention the chorus of outrage that would undoubtedly follow the instant any bill is introduced to mandate the authenticity verification scheme you propose would pretty much guarantee its instant demise ...

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  7. Carrie Fisher by Zorro · · Score: 4, Funny

    Supports deep fakes.

    She said so this morning at a Disney press conference.

    1. Re:Carrie Fisher by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just recently saw the Last Jedi and at the beginning thought that Fisher had died before this movie was filmed. I admired the integration of the face and the skull, and the lighting matching that had both clearly been improved since the Rogue One. This menace of the deep reals has to stop!

    2. Re:Carrie Fisher by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wikipedia says Carrie Fisher is alive and well.

      Then again, it also says that Donald J. Trump is currently the President of the United States so who knows what to believe anymore.

    3. Re:Carrie Fisher by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I started watching it and did not manage even half of it. Bad movie it was w/ or w/o deepfakes

  8. The solution to deepfakes is... more deepfakes! by drjoe1e6 · · Score: 1

    Picture this: A few days before the election, a new video has "Candidate A" speaking at a satanist convention, disparaging the flag, mom, and apple pie. Totally fake, but how can Candidate A fight back?

    Simply put out a new ad, with fake footage of Candidate B saying _exactly_ the same speech... then JFK, then Nixon, then ($pop_idol_of_the_week). Tagline is "I'm Candidate A, and I can make stuff up too."

    A sad state of affairs, but if I ran a political party, I'd crank up a rendering farm for this type of emergency.

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    1. Re:The solution to deepfakes is... more deepfakes! by Nidi62 · · Score: 2

      Picture this: A few days before the election, a new video has "Candidate A" speaking at a satanist convention, disparaging the flag, mom, and apple pie. Totally fake, but how can Candidate A fight back?

      Too obviously and explicitly fake. The best way to do it is something small and subtle, enough to simply cause confusion that, if released a week or so before the election, is fresh enough in everyone's mid to sway independents and undecideds to your preferred candidate. Maybe the candidate doing/talking about doing drugs, or domestic violence, sexual assault, taking bribes, etc. Something that isn't huge but would take a while to investigate and repudiate. No amount of fake video will sway partisans on either side, but it doesn't take much to give those in the middle a little nudge.

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    2. Re:The solution to deepfakes is... more deepfakes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have Democrats on TV TODAY claiming wiretapping an opposition campaign, putting highly paid spies in an opposition campaign is "helping that other campaign". Last week they were defending MS-13 gang members who murder US citizens saying they need to be left alone.

      What videos are you going to make that is worse than that?
      I think we have reached the point where they are saying things far worse than someone who would fake videos to make them look bad would do because it wouldn't be believable.

    3. Re:The solution to deepfakes is... more deepfakes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Picture this: A few days before the election, a new video has "Candidate A" speaking at a satanist convention, disparaging the flag, mom, and apple pie. Totally fake, but how can Candidate A fight back?

      If candidate A was Trump, it wouldn't have mattered.

    4. Re:The solution to deepfakes is... more deepfakes! by nine-times · · Score: 0

      That doesn't solve the problem, because it just creates a deeply cynical electorate who doesn't believe any facts.

      Because what if Candidate A really was speaking at a satanist convention, and just got caught, and then covers his tracks by making a fake video of Candidate B saying exactly the same speech? Now everyone thinks both were fakes, even though one side is telling the truth, and people elect a satanist who disparages the flag, mom, and apple pie.

      The truth is, we're already there. We don't need convincing fakes to convince people. We don't even need a plausible lie to convince people. Apparently you can make patently false outrageous nonsensical claims, and tens of millions of people will buy into it without a second thought.

    5. Re:The solution to deepfakes is... more deepfakes! by sinij · · Score: 2

      More interesting implication of this, is that now you could get away with actually speaking at a satanist convention, disparaging the flag, mom, and apple pie. Because you could just claim it is fake news.

  9. so this is by akunkel · · Score: 0

    Deepfake News!

  10. When our Cells can do it... by stilrz · · Score: 1
    When our Cells can do it...

    Perhaps a better definition of the singularity.

  11. Deja vu all over again! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Precisely the kind of thing that a movie named "Looker" predicted in 1981 (directed by Michael Chrichton). Had Albert Finney and Susan Dey in it.

  12. English by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    freedom of speech

    make no law

    English. Do you read it?

  13. This has already happened by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rather predictably, the technology has already been used to generate a number of counterfeit celebrity porn videos. But the method could also be used to create a clip of a politician saying or doing something outrageous.

    The whole deep fake media churn is precisely because there is a video out there of a politician saying or doing something so incredibly bad they would be lynched. I am betting one of the Wikileaks insurance files has it. When it is released, the media can claim it's fake.

    1. Re:This has already happened by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The whole deep fake media churn is precisely because there is a video out there of a politician saying or doing something so incredibly bad they would be lynched. I am betting one of the Wikileaks insurance files has it. When it is released, the media can claim it's fake.

      Well, there WAS an audio file of a candidate saying something pretty bad, but he was elected president anyway.

  14. Incremental Improvements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unless the DOD programmers are better than all other programmers, they will lose the battle. As the parent post says, you just need to do an automated optimization based on what that other program detects.

  15. Not possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He signed a tax cut bill. Hillary's head would have exploded killing her if she attempted to do that.

  16. On Ashcroft's Wings... by buravirgil · · Score: 1

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... Understand...Virtual Child Pornography involved the Supreme Court because digitally created images were used to agitate and turn Muslim suspects held at sites around the world in Psy-Operations. We've got to understand that the whole nature of the way American democracy guards its freedom has been changed.~ John Ashcroft, former US Attorney General

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  17. Anything is possible. Look at 9/11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Mossad managed to secretly wire the whole World Trade Center with demolition explosives. If they can do that then anything is possible.

  18. Re:Carrie Fisher (proof of said) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://sendvid.com/usc56itb

    defines it. This is the proof.

  19. More useless taxation without representation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More useless taxation without representation.

    It's very simple really, Taxation is theft.

  20. You are pretending like that has ever been true. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Go read up on the Spanish-American War, the Opening of Japan, Native American/German-American/Japanese-American Internment, etc. The frothing masses have always been fed whatever narrative makes them back the currently desired course of action since the founding of this 'fair country'. If you go back further you can find the same action going on all over the world, only overshadowed by rebellions when the narrative was disrupted by facts on the ground, usually resource shortages or labor abuses so prevalent that word of them got around the propaganda and everyone knew someone who could verify it with boots/letters from the ground.

    The news/internet of today is no different. The only way to divest yourself of the propaganda is to have a network of trusted individuals, some of whom are in the affected regions who can report on what is actually going on there, just like has always been true. If you or someone you know has not met them in person and spent time with them, they are just as unreliable as the news or a reporter.

  21. greenpeace is right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    humans are stupid and deserve to die.

  22. My fav celebrities not included! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rather predictably, the technology has already been used to generate a number of counterfeit celebrity porn videos.

    Meh, NONE of these fake videos have my favorite celebrities so what do I care.

  23. cryptographic signatures by markjhood2003 · · Score: 1

    I wonder if soon all photographic, video, and audio recording devices will be required to incorporate hardened individual hardware certificates that can sign all the recordings that particular device creates. At least in that case it seems it would be possible to verify that a particular portion of unedited source material was recorded directly by a specific device without any additional manipulation, which could be useful in legal, political, or scientific contexts where verification of origin is required.

  24. Privacy achieved via deepfakes? by misnohmer · · Score: 1

    The society went from no video, to video surveillance everywhere. Are we now coming full circle where videos will carry no credibility at all, therefore equivalent of not having any video surveillance anyways? Revenge porn, no problem if nobody can prove it's real or not.

  25. Hmm Fauxnews could be made telling the truth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone should do a video of FOX actually telling the truth.

  26. Watermarking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there any particular reason that in addition to analysis, watermarking and metadata couldn't be implemented for this purpose? I'm having a hard time following the logic of this being a catastrophe. A person has to initiate this, there aren't rogue machines running around making videos of their own volition. Sounds like once again, people are reacting to an epic mischaracterization.

  27. Inconvenient truths recorded on video? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just say that it is "deep-fake" and "AI-trickery" and make the truth go away. That's what I read.

  28. What Project? What contest? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Department of Defense is funding a project that will try to determine whether the increasingly real....

    What is the name of the project? Why can't the author write down the name of the damn project? the one piece of information that would allow someone to find out more about it, what the goals and schedule are, etc. is completely missing from the article.

    the summary mentions a contest. What is the contest, when is it, where is it? the article completely fails to mention that information either. For anyone wanting to be informed about this, the article is useless.