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Trump Cancels Singapore Summit With North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un (cnbc.com)
President Donald Trump has cancelled his much anticipated meeting with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un that was scheduled to take place in Singapore on June 12, he announced moments ago. In a letter to Kim, the president said; "I was very much looking forward to being there with you. Sadly, based on the tremendous anger an open hostility displayed in your most recent statement, I feel it is inappropriate, at this time to have this long-planned meeting. Therefore, please let this letter to serve to represent that the Singapore summit, for the good of both parties, but to the detriment of the world, will not take place." He added, "You talk about your nuclear capabilities, but ours are so massive and powerful that I pray to God they will never have to be used."
It's in trumps style of negotiation. He's always going to go for the BEST deal that he can get, and this is not at all out of the ordinary for Trump.
Back when it was first announced, Scott adams almost immediately said "expect one of them, probably trump, to walk away at least once before any actual negotiations take place".
Fun to see these types of negotiating dynamics playing out on the world stage.
and then there is Kim Jong Un to worry about . . .
Sdelat' Ameriku velikoy Snova!
"...and stuff that matters"
When it is important as calling out a Russian Plant, we are going to report on it.
Have a nice day, son.
nerds care when a madman has an icbm in range of their house
the korean is also kind of screwy
It wasn't Trump, it was Pence and Pompeo who threatened North Korea with a Libyan outcome.
These people are neophytes on the world stage and it shows.
I'm god, but it's a bit of a drag really...
It wasn't Trump, it was Pence and Pompeo who threatened North Korea with a Libyan outcome.
A distinction without a difference. Trump wants to play emperor then he gets to take responsibility for what happens on his watch too. Not just the bits he likes.
All he had to do is keep his mouth shut and let South Korea do the heavy lifting... But noooooo....
South Korea doing the heavy lifting? Please...
The guy in charge down south is so bent on peace at any price that he's almost just giving Kim everything, including control of South Korea. The leader of South Korea just ran a campaign on this issue and has HUGE political pressure to show results, any kind of results. They are in no mood to lift anything, heavy or not over there.
Kim is really the one who's responsible for this. Kim has been ratcheting up the rhetoric. He's been saying stupid stuff about Trump, Pompano and Pence even. I personally think that Kim is afraid of a revolt if he is out of the country for too long with any advance warning. I also think he's convinced that he can negotiate his way into keeping his nuclear weapons, which he sees as his lifeline.
Given that the denuclearization of both Korea's is Trump's stated goal, I'm guessing that we are at an impasse and Trump is making his demand clear, no keeping your WMD's, no negotiation on that point so the sanctions stay in place. Kim is powerless to force anything, so his only gambit is to pull out. Trump is letting him decide, saying "OK, This issue is non-negotiable for me, so if you want to meet, that's the deal. Call me if you change your mind."
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
The comments were pretty harsh.
Compared to the US saying that we were going to use "the Libya model"?
He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
Yes, including one where Gadaffi was overthrown and eventually murdered. Making threats (or just using such ridiculously clumsy language during such a critical phase of diplomacy) is pathetic. It's amateur hour in the White House apparently.
The US never agreed to the Iran deal. And Iran never signed the deal anyway, so...
What's that in the top left corner then?
And voting for UN security council resolution 2231 was a strange way of showing that you never agreed with the deal. You can complain about the kindergarten you call congress refusing to support anything and everything Obama did all you like, at the UN, we expect you to send qualified adults that can make decisions befitting their position within your administration.
Yup exactly. There is absolutely no relation to dictatorial regime giving up their harshest weapons and a following overthrow and torture of the dictator. Just ask Gaddafi's asshole.
Kim Jong-un has every reason to immediately appease those appalled by his human rights atrocities. #Winning
brandelf -t FreeBSD
DACA recipients? You mean illegal aliens who were shielded by executive action of the prior administration, with no legal basis for remaining in the US? I wonder what most countries do with people who are present illegally...
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
Had the meeting gone as scheduled, he would have said it was brilliant and just as Trump had planned. Adams worships the ground that Trump walks upon and has convinced himself that all democrats are demon scum. Trump is incapable of doing any wrong in Adams' eyes.
Coincidentally, remember when Dilbert was last funny? It was a fair bit before the 2016 elections. Now it's just Mallard Fillmore in an office; often forgetting the punch lines as well.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
So I think that he indeed added this as he did not understand that the first part already said the same thing,
I don't think so. The first phrase, as you say, is stern, calm and diplomatic. It's the 'why'. The second is not only a warning but tells Kim how we view ourselves: We fear our own power. I am not sure if Kim fears nuclear weapons the same as we do but regardless it opens the door for hope because in that fear we will work for peace. It also gives Kim a different understanding of "bigger button that works". Can he comprehend a nuclear capability to be actually afraid of using it?
That's not what's going on.
Kim and his advisers came to the conclusion that Trump and his advisers were looking for an occasion for a limited war - some bombing campaign - somewhere in the world. Ideally, the campaign would take place before the mid term elections. The US military was tasked to look into either bombing some nuclear facilities in NK or bombing some nuclear facilities in Iran. Kim and his advisers came to this conclusion and quickly contacted SK to prevent this from happening, because they know very well that the NK could not possibly defend their territory at all and judge that Trump is crazy enough to not care about possible consequences for South Korea.
Moon came to the same conclusion and quickly arranged this initiative together with Kim to prevent the worst from happening. Bear in mind that NK could shell Seoul, population 10 million, plus another 10 million in the area, and even if the artillery is quickly taken care of by air superiority, the death toll would be massive. At the same time Moon is under serious pressure from the US, so he had to include the US despite the fact that Trump is considered a negative factor by both parties. (Trump is considered an annoyance and hard to deal with by essentially every politician in the world, including Moon and Kim, of course.)
Here is what's going to happen: NK and SK will continue with peace talks and friendship initiatives no matter what the US does, for at least as long as Trump is in charge. Neither of them wants war, and even the smallest military action would make an escalation almost unavoidable in the current situation.
The comments were pretty harsh. That sort of behavior isn't tolerated, and they are letting them know that.
You need to be far more specific considering the harsh rhetoric coming from both sides. I assume you mean the US comments were harsh, since they essentially insinuated they want Kim Jong Un deposed and killed in the streets. North Korea's responses were quite tame by comparison.
-- All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke
Here we go again with the penis wars.
It depresses me to no end that the leaders of nations act so much like petty school children.
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
No, it isn't - what is the Libya Model? The Lybia model isn't surround yourself with female body guards, torture your citizens, and let your kids kill your country's citizens without restraint. Libya was hell on earth, the locals brought down the government and the US helped.
But that isn't what Bolton was referring to - Libya Model is to demand absolute, verified shutdown of nuclear development, no exceptions.
THAT is the Libyan Model any sane person would understand Bolton was talking about.
Bolton was referring to the need to build trust and verify any denuclearization efforts when he brought up Libya in a CBS interview last month. He didn’t imply, publicly at least, that the “Libya model” would include regime change in North Korea.
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Ken
Or, get this, we got Trump because the Democrats were so busy with infighting that left the left divided and unable to recover any semblance of unity after the Primaries. Maybe someday they will stop pushing Clinton and we'll have a shot at the presidency again.
There was once a time where America pulling out of a deal, trade talk, summit, etc was a deathspell. The world looked to America for everything. A very very interesting change has happened in the past 2 years.
America pulls out of the Paris Agreement. Rather than killing it off, it spurred the last 2 remaining countries to join. ... Except all the parties just copied and pasted all the bits not requiring the USA and the newly named CPTPP lives on.
America pulls out of the TPP, and agreement it lead and created. This killed the agreement. It can't be rattified without the USA.
America pulls out of its agreement with Iran, an agreement it was instrumental in creating. The world collectively shrugged with all parties continuing to abide by the agreement.
A lot of people are talking about how America is being laughed at, whereas the reality appears far worse than that.