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Judge Backs Parents, Saying Their 30-Year-Old Son Must Move Out (npr.org)
"Attention geeks living in their parents' basements!" writes PolygamousRanchKid , sharing this story from NPR:
The promise of adventure didn't do it. Neither did the lure of independence, or the weight of his 30 years. Instead, it took a judge to pry Michael Rotondo from his parents' home. The couple won an eviction order against their son, after a judge argued with Rotondo for 30 minutes. "I don't see why they can't just, you know, wait a little bit for me to leave the house," Rotondo told Donald Greenwood, a justice on the Onondaga County Supreme Court...
Christina and Mark Rotondo resorted to legal action after a series of notes to their son (starting on Feb. 2) failed to get him to move out of their home in Camillus, New York, a town west of Syracuse. Those notes followed discussions that began last October. The notes to Michael Rotondo ranged from orders to leave and encouragement to get a job, to offers of more than $1,000 and help in finding a place... The notes escalated into a formally worded notice for Rotondo to leave that set a 30-day deadline -- which lapsed on March 15...
In a legal filing cited by CNYCentral, Rotondo said that in the eight years he has lived at his parents' house, he "has never been expected to contribute to household expenses, or assisted with chores and the maintenance of the premises," and that those conditions are simply part of an informal agreement. When he was in his early 20s, Rotondo briefly lived on his own, but he moved back in with his parents after losing a job...
The case is being seen as an extreme example of a growing trend. As NPR reported in 2016, a Pew study found that, "For the first time in more than 130 years, Americans ages 18-34 are more likely to live with their parents than in any other living situation."
Christina and Mark Rotondo resorted to legal action after a series of notes to their son (starting on Feb. 2) failed to get him to move out of their home in Camillus, New York, a town west of Syracuse. Those notes followed discussions that began last October. The notes to Michael Rotondo ranged from orders to leave and encouragement to get a job, to offers of more than $1,000 and help in finding a place... The notes escalated into a formally worded notice for Rotondo to leave that set a 30-day deadline -- which lapsed on March 15...
In a legal filing cited by CNYCentral, Rotondo said that in the eight years he has lived at his parents' house, he "has never been expected to contribute to household expenses, or assisted with chores and the maintenance of the premises," and that those conditions are simply part of an informal agreement. When he was in his early 20s, Rotondo briefly lived on his own, but he moved back in with his parents after losing a job...
The case is being seen as an extreme example of a growing trend. As NPR reported in 2016, a Pew study found that, "For the first time in more than 130 years, Americans ages 18-34 are more likely to live with their parents than in any other living situation."
I was talking about freedom to go out and play with other kids outside or away from adults, not to sit alone in their house or attend supervised structured activities. And yes, you can quite easily find tons of data to support this.
http://www.slate.com/articles/...
https://www.psychologytoday.co...
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Just to start. A few seconds on Google will back up every word in my post.
Perhaps he would be happier living with Italian parents?
My parents raised all 7 kids to be independent. We were expected to find our own travel methods for sports teams, pay for our college education, get a job ASAP. My mother was a little disappointed when most of us stopped coming home (or calling all the time). She said they raised us to be too independent. OTOH, none of us has needed to be bailed out by our parents from jail or financial issues. We plan for the worst and hope for the best.
When I went off to college, 2 weeks later, they sold their house and moved out to "full-time" travel in an RV. They said, if you don't take it with you, we aren't going to store it.
One of my sisters moved home for a few weeks after college. She was required to pay rent and buy groceries. "First and Last" Dad kept saying to her - a reference to first month and last month rent (for the man-boys here). She moved out ASAP to get away from the house rules.
Which brings up a point, if the house rules aren't restrictive enough, some man-boys won't leave. A few ideas for living at home:
* Rent - you pay.
* Laundry - do your own.
* Food - you provide 2 dinners a week to the family
* House/Toilet cleaning - assigned based on your cleanliness.
* Curfew - 10p nightly
* Overnight visitors - none. If 2 people are in the bedroom, the door is open.
* Phone use - none after 9pm.
* Internet use - none after 9pm. Expect highly restrictive filtering. No porn.
That should be sufficient to get any man-boy to leave.
Yeah - my house cost less than it would today. I was also making less.
No. In real dollars, the average wage was higher. Maybe you are making more after inflation now than you were then, but many people are not. The minimum wage hasn't kept up with inflation in over two decades. Back then, it was holding its own. Since then, it hasn't been. So yes, things absolutely are worse now. Wages are lower in real dollars.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
And which generation were these "well meaning but stupid parents" from again? Boomers, you say? How interesting.
Actually, parents of Millennials are Gen X. Not Boomers.
Some days I get the sinking feeling Orwell was an optimist.