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High School in China Installs Facial Recognition Cameras To Monitor Students' Attentiveness (theepochtimes.com)

A high school in Hangzhou City, Zhejiang Province located on the eastern coast of China, has employed facial recognition technology to monitor students' attentiveness in class, local media reports. From the report: At Hangzhou Number 11 High School, three cameras at the front of the classroom scan students' faces every 30 seconds, analyzing their facial expressions to detect their mood, according to a May 16 report in the state-run newspaper The Paper. The different moods -- surprised, sad, antipathy, angry, happy, afraid, neutral -- are recorded and averaged during each class. A display screen, only visible to the teacher, shows the data in real-time. A certain value is determined as a student not paying enough attention. A video shot by Zhejiang Daily Press revealed that the system -- coined the "smart classroom behavior management system" by the school -- also analyzes students' actions, categorized into: reading, listening, writing, standing up, raising hands, and leaning on the desk.

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  1. Mechanisms of propaganda. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    See how the message is received and refine until accepted.

    1. Re: Mechanisms of propaganda. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Next they'll have electric shock for not paying attention

    2. Re: Mechanisms of propaganda. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In the old days the teacher kept an eye on his students... and a whack on the wrist with a ruler was the first warning. These days everyone is SJW'd and their kids are assholes.

    3. Re: Mechanisms of propaganda. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Or if lots of kids are not paying attention, they can fire the teacher and hire a new teacher able to make the lessons more interesting.

    4. Re: Mechanisms of propaganda. by sheramil · · Score: 1

      Or if lots of kids aren't paying attention, they could be dismissed and allowed to roam the streets freely, while their places at school are taken by kids who want to be there.

    5. Re: Mechanisms of propaganda. by barc0001 · · Score: 1

      That's an excellent plan. I can't see anything wrong with an entire segment of a generation growing up functioning at an mid-elementary grade level, can you? Surely that couldn't possibly cause massive problems years later....

    6. Re: Mechanisms of propaganda. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Or if lots of kids aren't paying attention, they could be dismissed and allowed to roam the streets freely

      If most of the kids are not paying attention, that is the teacher's fault. Any subject can be interesting if presented in the right way. I once took an evening course on "Introduction to Bookkeeping" at my local community college. The 80 year old geezer teaching the course kept us on the edge of our seats with stories of how he uncovered fraud, embezzling and lapping. Did you ever see the movie The Accountant? I think it was about him.

    7. Re:Mechanisms of propaganda. by drnb · · Score: 1

      See how the message is received and refine until accepted.

      Not only that, identify those who are not enthusiastically accepting the message. That will be important in the Communist Party's History and Political Science classes. It will help identify those who need a "supplemental" class.

    8. Re: Mechanisms of propaganda. by EETech1 · · Score: 2

      Classic South Park
      https://youtu.be/MBEfHZITrgo

    9. Re:Mechanisms of propaganda. by morethanapapercert · · Score: 1
      But pulling your kids out of school would be scored negatively (and likely harshly negatively) on your own social credit score, resulting in you being banned for any travel, loans and an ever increasing range of jobs. The Chinese government has been very clear that it wants to exert enough influence as to become coercion on all members of its society, coercion to make everybody conform to committee derived ideals of model citizenry.

      Pretty soon you'd be homeless and destitute. And with the social credit system being understood and accepted by the majority, the homeless will become seen as deserving their homeless status because it will be assumed they got that way by refusal to conform.

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    10. Re: Mechanisms of propaganda. by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Actually, it sounds like you had poor teachers if all they did in lecture is read from the book. If they had been good teachers who engaged their students in a learning dialect, maybe you wouldn't have had those 70 scores.

    11. Re: Mechanisms of propaganda. by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      It's actually an honor and privledge to be a Party member. I'm sure they have indoctrination classes for the masses, but cadre on track to become full members are not slackers.

    12. Re: Mechanisms of propaganda. by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Sounds like life in the West, except arbitrary bosses and landlords make the determination.

    13. Re: Mechanisms of propaganda. by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Coming soon to a police state near you

    14. Re: Mechanisms of propaganda. by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      It's about time they used this technology to help the children, instead of just using it for advertising!

    15. Re:Mechanisms of propaganda. by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      Holy fuck.
      This really is "1984" for real.

  2. Because... by taiwanjohn · · Score: 2

    Falling asleep in class would be a huge loss of, umm... prestige?

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    1. Re:Because... by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2

      A loss of points on your Social Score, perhaps. You know, the thing that tracks Chinese citizens' behaviour and bars them from flying and other "privileges" if the score drops too low.

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  3. If we had this in my generation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would have ended-up as a drop-out instead of a Ph.D.

    1. Re:If we had this in my generation by fredrated · · Score: 1

      I suspect you are entirely wrong.

    2. Re:If we had this in my generation by Falconnan · · Score: 2

      Which, in the long run, is less than helpful to them. If one subscribes to the premise that The Party wishes to lead their country to greatness, to being a superpower, if not THE superpower, then one must therefore assume they think this is a good idea. The psychology is simple, that they believe that their party is the only hope for this to happen. What they are missing is that the limitations on the exchange of ideas in the end limits their nation's potential. They think unity of purpose alone can lead them to their end goal, but they have missed a simple reality: Unity of purpose alone leads to the risk that, if they drive off a cliff, they do so as one.

    3. Re:If we had this in my generation by morethanapapercert · · Score: 1

      Unity of purpose pretty much assumes homogenized thought as well, which explicitly suppresses diversity of ideas and creativity. From China's point of view, that isn't as crippling as one might think, since they have such a long standing tradition of stealing intellectual property from other countries and businesses that want to do business in China. As long as they are such a huge market and seemingly inexhaustible source of dirt-cheap labour, they don't need to foster domestic innovation, international businesses will beat a path to their door bringing innovation with them.

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    4. Re:If we had this in my generation by Falconnan · · Score: 1

      All true. But to lead, one has to innovate, develop, and invent. Granted, there are certainly benefits to their approach (excluding the co-opting of IP), but in the end, it is ultimately self-limiting.

    5. Re:If we had this in my generation by morethanapapercert · · Score: 1
      I don't think that leading, per se, is all that high on China's agenda right now. Their current method is reaping enormous profits as it is and giving them a leg up in terms of technological development. I don't think they can overtake the US in terms of innovation using their current methods, but they certainly help China catch up. Once they are on par with nations like the US, Germany and so on, then they can shift strategies and foster more domestic innovation.

      Bringing us back to the original topic, such tactics also dovetail nicely with the key Chinese goal of centralized control. The Chinese government inserts itself into every major deal with western corporations wanting to do business in China. From the west, they force the companies to help boost the domestic economy. For the Chinese people and businesses, they become the source (or choke point) for all that western money and IP. That also means that, as in the article, the government is first in line to start using the latest technology to support its ideology.

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  4. Upgrades by mentil · · Score: 3, Insightful

    the system also analyzes students' actions, categorized into: reading, listening, writing, standing up, raising hands, and leaning on the desk.

    Soon to come: doodling, fomenting rebellion, gossiping, sleeping, reading non-class materials, and pranking.

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    1. Re:Upgrades by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Soon to come, shut down of the system due to stress levels created in the vulnerable excitable somewhat unstable adolescent students having an extreme negative impact on grade results. Stressing the crap out of most students does not improve their grade, sure they can fake discipline, whilst inside they seethe with carefully hidden rage, that builds and builds and builds. Want to kill creativity, what to murder inventiveness, want to slaughter imagination, than this is the way to go and good luck keeping up with the countries that don't, you be fucked in the future.

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    2. Re:Upgrades by bursch-X · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Even sooner to come: wrongthink, doubting the propaganda, not being a good citizen, dissentient thinking

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  5. What happened to good old-fashioned test scores? by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What if Chinese students turn out cleverer than the adults and adapt to show attentiveness and comprehension while secretly being out to lunch? Or worse, look on as if in rapt attention while secretly fantasizing about a world in which they don’t have to pretend they’re not bored when they’re bored, a world that does not, if you’ll forgive me, so closely resemble the Seventh Circle of Hell?

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  6. China will lead the World by 2030 by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 1, Interesting

    And shit like this will be the norm around the world as the other nations strive to follow their lead Too bad that by 2030 the US will be a nation of bible banging morons with no education living poverty But the US Prison Industry will use this on their 100m+ population of "Prison Workers" manning the Factories they voted for Trump to build

    1. Re:China will lead the World by 2030 by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      Somewhere, early on, you seem to have lost both your train of thought as well as your periods.

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    2. Re:China will lead the World by 2030 by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 1

      Does that mean he's pregnant since he lost his periods?

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    3. Re:China will lead the World by 2030 by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      It just means his brain is past menopause.

  7. China wants to weed folks like that out by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    any authoritarian regime does. Here in America we do it with religion. You need to put a damper on progress somehow if you want to say in power.

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    1. Re:China wants to weed folks like that out by Pinky's+Brain · · Score: 1

      Importing more people from non-progressive, religious and classist societies will surely help.

  8. Stepping stone. by jtgd · · Score: 1

    I guess this will do... until they get those brain implants in.

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  9. STOP THIS CRAP by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

    Parents need to rip out the godxam cameras and go medieval on the authoritarian idiots that decided to install them. 1984 was a damn WARNING, not a HOWTO manual you f--kers...

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    1. Re:STOP THIS CRAP by sheramil · · Score: 2

      Yeah, they tried that. It was called the Cultural Revolution. It didn't work quite as they expected it to.

  10. Re:What happened to good old-fashioned test scores by PineHall · · Score: 1

    It makes me think of the Sci-Fi book, The Stainless Steel Rat, where the anti-hero, the rat, refined his skills and became super criminal getting around the very strong security. (He ended up using his skills to capture crooks like him.) The very strong security honed his skills ( the "stainless steel part") so that he became a super criminal. Could these cameras create the students you describe, ones who fake attentiveness and comprehension? I think it is possible.

  11. Creapina by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    China is getting ever creepier with monitoring. Gotta "love" commies.

    1. Re:Creapina by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      What if it turns out that China stopped being Communist decades ago and are actually a semi-autocratic Confucian Republic?

      Does it change the creepiness?

    2. Re:Creapina by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Now they are a dictatorship. Xi booted opposition.

    3. Re:Creapina by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Much of their society is ruled by local elected officials.

      So having one guy in charge of foreign policy and national direction leaves it exactly at "semi-autocratic Confucian Republic."

      Also, Xi Jinping didn't "boot" the opposition, he won the support of bunch of people in the party who are themselves elected by members of the party. So that part is all exactly as you would expect in a Confucian Meritocracy. In a Communist system you would expect instead of have selected the people with enough Virtue to choose the leaders, you wouldn't want it to be mostly Democratic.

  12. Re:HS in China? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    Does China even have indoor plumbing?

    Not everywhere. Some rural inland provinces are very poor. But TFA is about Hangzhou, one of the most prosperous cities in China, with a per capita GDP higher than some EU countries.

    Hangzhou is about two hours south of Shanghai by train, and well worth visiting. It is a beautiful city, built around a lake, with a lot of old architecture. It is a great place to spend a quiet weekend away from the bustle of Shanghai.

  13. Kids are use to it by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    Yeah, like they have a choice? It's called indoctrination, conditioning. Get them use to it as kids, so they accept it easier as adults. Schools in the USA do the same thing, but not to this degree...YET.

  14. God forbid by bobstreo · · Score: 1

    they start with inappropriate boner tracking and social media
    "loss of face".

    Of course after a few generations, there won't be any more natural pregnancies due to the lack of sexual enthusiasm and fear of social repercussions.

    1. Re: God forbid by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Yes. It's always about oppression of the 'boner.'

      *sigh*

  15. Coming soon to a place near you by hyades1 · · Score: 2

    Does anybody doubt we'll be seeing something similar in American schools, stores, police stations and workplaces before long?

    American corporations have been telling us for years if we allow them to modify their wares to meet Chinese demands, the end result will be a China that is more free and more open.

    Instead, often with the assistance of Apple, Google, Microsoft and dozens of other corporations, China is tightening the screws on its population. Meanwhile, privacy in America is becoming a thing of the past, and the powers of "Free World" corporations and governments are increasing every day.

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    1. Re: Coming soon to a place near you by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      I am sure almost nobody is alive to remember. Certainly not 'mainframes' which at the time did not exist.

      However, what IBM did sell was a punched card system. Data was stored in 80 row fields on punched cards. There were machines for human operators to punch data on cards, machines to sort cards into bins by field, and machines to put a deck of card in to print out fields on the cards. The 'programming' was figuring out which fields on the cards to sort by, or print, etc. and was accomplished using jumper wire panels.

      Punched card decks were the repository of data at the time.

    2. Re:Coming soon to a place near you by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      Good question.

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    3. Re:Coming soon to a place near you by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      In America, if your parents want you to get ahead they'll buy you smart glasses that monitor your attention and make sure you're learning the Right Things.

      And other kids will still be doing Free Range learning.

      And poor kids will ignore all that stare out the window or doodle on the desk because they're not going to get in trouble at home for not having learned anything, and are also not encouraged to value education.

  16. Totalitarian government + technology = joy by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 2

    At least in the west, Big Brother still pretends that he isn't actually watching you ever second of the day.

  17. Snow Crash by AlanObject · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As usual, the best sci-fi writers were well ahead of this curve. The following is an exerpt from Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson in 1992:

    Y.T.'s mom pulls up the new memo, checks the time, and starts reading it. The estimated reading time is 15.62 minutes. Later, when Marietta does her end-of-day statistical roundup, sitting in her private office at 9:00 P.M., she will see the name of each employee and next to it, the amount of time spent reading this memo, and her reaction, based on the time spent, will go something like this:

    Less than 10 mm. Time for an employee conference and possible attitude counseling.

    10-14 min. Keep an eye on this employee; may be developing slipshod attittide.

    14-15.61 mm. Employee is an efficient worker, may sometimes miss important details.

    Exactly 15.62 mm. Smartass. Needs attitude counseling.

    15.63-16 mm. Asswipe. Not to be trusted.

    16-18 mm. Employee is a methodical worker, may sometimes get hung up on minor details.

    More than 18 mm. Check the security videotape, see just what this employee was up to (e.g., possible unauthorized restroom break).

    Y.T.'s mom decides to spend between fourteen and fifteen minutes reading the memo. It's better for younger workers to spend too long, to show that they're careful, not cocky. It's better for older workers to go a little fast, to show good management potential. She's pushing forty. She scans through the memo, hitting the Page Down button at reasonably regular intervals, occasionally paging back up to pretend to reread some earlier section. The computer is going to notice all this. It approves of rereading. It's a small thing, but over a decade or so this stuff really shows up on your work-habits summary.

    1. Re:Snow Crash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm fascinated by the change from minutes to millimeters. Can I subscribe to your newsletter?

  18. Re: Mechanisms of masturbation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You've clearly never been to China.

    Here, I can stereotype too. All Americans are fat, lazy and materialistic.

  19. Geography by Jesus+H+Rolle · · Score: 3, Funny

    A high school in Hangzhou City, Zhejiang Province located on the eastern coast of China

    It's good that they specified which coast.

  20. 1984 2.0 moving fast by volodymyrbiryuk · · Score: 1

    Does it deduct points from their 'social credit'?

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  21. Technically possible by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

    Having a limited number (30, 50, a bit more?) of people, who are probably known to the algorithm (fed with basic information of all the students in the given class?), in more or less static positions and well-defined places? That does sound certainly doable. There might be still quite a few problems, misinterpretations, ways to trick the system, etc. though.

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  22. Re:What happened to good old-fashioned test scores by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or maybe it's just a tool to assist the teacher when they have to deal with a large class of kids. I'm not saying it isn't Orwellian, merely that perhaps it's not designed to force the kids to pay attention but rather to help the teacher notice where they need to focus their attention. Managing 30 kids who have to do boring work is hard.

    I actually know some Chinese kids, and I've seen their school... It wasn't some kind of Party Loyalty factory, it was just a normal school full of normal kids but with more of a focus on rote learning than we have in the west.

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  23. Even the Chinese? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    The different moods -- surprised, sad, antipathy, angry, happy, afraid, neutral -- are recorded and averaged during each class. A display screen, only visible to the teacher, shows the data in real-time.

    I would have thought that the students' faces themselves show the data in real time; does this mean that even Chinese teachers can't recognize Chinese faces?

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  24. Re: Mechanisms of masturbation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you ever bother to travel outside of your country, you'll find people worldwide are as diverse as the people you know of where you live. It's disgusting then you see someone make claims like "in this place the people are like this". No, the people are individuals.

    I've lived in eight countries in my life and have never seen a homogeneous populace. Anywhere you go there are good people, there are bad people. There are smart people, there are stupid people. There are strong people, there are weak people. The "outside world" isn't the scary and backward place that you imagine it to be.

  25. Fuck China by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    Fuck China

    1. Re:Fuck China by geirlk · · Score: 1

      Sure, but that said, don't underestimate their influence on the world.

  26. Re:What happened to good old-fashioned test scores by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

    Then they will fail their tests and teachers will think that they are retarded. And as a result they will be sent to where the retards are sent instead of the teachers understanding that it is an attention problem and deal with it correctly.

    Smart kids failing their tests because they find their lecture boring and don't listen at all is very common, and mistaking it for low intelligence is probably the worst thing you can do to them. So while there are many reasons to oppose the system, defeating it may backfire.

  27. Social media rating by geirlk · · Score: 1

    What I consider more terrifying is when you see this up against the Chinese implementing ratings on Social media. Every citizen will get a ranking, which again will dictate whether or not you'll be hired in a company etc. etc.

    These systems will almost be guaranteed to be connected at some point.

    Not much room for dissenting views in China.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  28. It was done since the 90's everywhere else by Laxator2 · · Score: 2

    I remember in the mid-90's when Windows NT was used everywhere in the corporate world, monitoring the employees was the order of the day. It was very common to hear from managers that were sales people and accountants things like:

    "Between 2 and 2:30 PM you did not type at all. Your colleague was typing all this time"

    Nowadays it is known that bosses take snapshots of the websites that the employees visit and put them on their individual files so they can use them during performance review.

    An none of this has anything to do with China.

  29. an Orwellian nightmare... by morethanapapercert · · Score: 1

    And just how long will it be before the central authorities decide to add school attentiveness scores to the social credit scores they are already using on adults to control their movements? And clearly getting good grades won't be enough for the advanced students who can handle the course work without paying a lot of attention to the teacher during regular class hours. The top scorers are going to be those who get tops grades and manage to keep an expression on their face that passes the automated criteria.

    According to news reports, already millions of Chinese have been blacklisted for travel. (and not even international travel, but internal travel for the Lunar New Year which is kind of a big deal in China with traveller numbers in the millions)

    It's probably only a matter of time before "you're a lazy student, you don't qualify to go home to see your parents and grandparents this year..." becomes a reality.

    Note that things like jaywalking, being a no-show for restaurant reservations and giving fake reviews online are already included and the official government stance is that this social credit system and related punishment/reward system will cover the whole of Chinese society by 2020.

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    1. Re:an Orwellian nightmare... by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      It seems more likely that that is the purpose, rather than something where it would make sense to wonder "how long will it be before..."

  30. Re: Mechanisms of masturbation. by butzwonker · · Score: 1

    I have lived for a substantial amount of time in 3 countries so far and cannot confirm this. But in any case, screw any of this anecdotal evidence. Use your brain instead. Stereotypes usually provide less distinctions than zodiac signs, it's mind-bogglingly idiotic to make general remarks about the character, habits, or personality traits of millions of people - or even billions, like in the case of China. This is especially true if you select those people on the basis of entirely coincidental features like "nationality".

    I have learned two other things about other countries: Every country has roughly the same amount of assholes and people you don't want to have anything to do with, but that the majority of people are nice wherever you go.

  31. Re: Mechanisms of masturbation. by sarren1901 · · Score: 1

    I don't know, I've been to Canada and they are a shit load nicer in Victoria then most anywhere in the USA, though people do tend to be a bit nicer in the Midwest on average. People are to much in a hurry on the West coast.

  32. Re: What happened to good old-fashioned test score by Evtim · · Score: 1

    You would have said the same if you saw us in class 35 years ago behind the wall. It works via self censorship. By the time you are 1st grade you already know to shut up and pretend...
    Go to NK and it will look even more peaceful and focused. But it is just a front...

    May I also remind all bleading heart sjw's about the cultural revolution so we don't droll over Chinese 'harmony' and 'order' least we invite it in our society. Thanks!

  33. Re: HS in China? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    My grandparents didn't have indoor plumbing until about 1960. This was Minnesota.

  34. Re: Mechanisms of masturbation. by Aighearach · · Score: 1

    They have internet in China, you could probably actually go and talk to some real Chinese women and find out if it is true. Or even just check twitter.

  35. Re:What happened to good old-fashioned test scores by Aighearach · · Score: 1

    I'm even a Harry Harrison fan, but that series was just crap that he spewed out quickly to make his publisher happy between more serious creative efforts.

    I know, many teenagers find it entertaining. Try reading it again though, now, and see if it still seems insightful.

  36. Re:What happened to good old-fashioned test scores by Aighearach · · Score: 1

    Maybe it is not even intended to help the teacher, but to help the student by teaching meritorious behavior.

  37. Re:HS in China? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

    If you consider bustle to be an insult, just give up and don't try to comprehend Chinese concepts of Merit.

  38. Re: Mechanisms of masturbation. by stroxor · · Score: 1

    They are scared as hell

  39. Re:Unintended consequence by Aighearach · · Score: 1

    In China they give the kids a lot more testing, and exceptional students get moved to better schools. They already know how smart all the kids are, and if they've been selected to be receive an education that benefits from creative thought or if they are being trained as a regular worker.

    Kids not being interested in school means their parents will have poor Social Credit for failing to instill meritorious values and habits in their children. If your kids don't get good grades, and don't even pay sufficient attention, then don't expect to get a promotion, or rent convenient housing, or take foreign vacations.

    If the problem is bad enough, you might not even be able to buy train tickets during high demand times of day.

  40. Adaptation by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    I think they are raising a generation of Chinese people that will master emotion masquerade.

  41. So who is fault? by Doctrinsograce · · Score: 1

    My uncle was a professor of education. He used to say that when a student fails it is the fault of the teacher. This sounds more like they think that the student is at fault for being bored mindless by a lousy teacher? Why not hide the scoring from anyone... then eliminate the teachers whose students show the lowest attentiveness scores?

  42. Re: Mechanisms of masturbation. by painandgreed · · Score: 1

    You've clearly never been to China.

    Here, I can stereotype too. All Americans are fat, lazy and materialistic.

    Hey now! We're not all lazy!

  43. Re: Mechanisms of masturbation. by dcw3 · · Score: 1

    Yeah, they're all individuals (FWIW, I've lived in several countries and been to 50+). But, as with most stereotypes, they're usually a reason for them. If I said "Asians like rice", or "Germans like wurst", clearly there are likely some that don't, but that doesn't make my statement wrong. Oh, and here's another...ACs are whiny cunts.

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