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Three US States Will Spend $1.3 Billion To Build More Electric Vehicle Charging (theverge.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: Three U.S. states announced major investments in charging infrastructure for electric cars on Thursday. In total, California, New York, and New Jersey will put $1.3 billion on the table in the coming years to help chip away at one of the biggest barriers standing in the way of widespread EV adoption. California's Public Utilities Commission approved up to $738 million worth of projects over the next five years, the agency announced. Southern California Edison and the Pacific Gas and Electric Company (PG&E) will spend up to $343 million and $236 million, respectively, to build charging infrastructure that will support thousands of medium or heavy-duty vehicles at around 1,500 locations throughout the state. PG&E will spend another $22 million building 234 DC fast-charging stations at around 50 different sites throughout the state.
In New York, the governor's office announced a pledge of up to $250 million through 2025 to its electric vehicle expansion initiative, EVolve NY. The New York Power Authority will work with the private sector to install up to 200 DC fast chargers "along key interstate corridors" with the goal of making them available every 30 miles, and it will also bring them to urban areas as well, including at or near New York City's two major airports. Meanwhile, New Jersey's biggest utility owner Public Service Enterprise Group (PSEG) announced a $300 million pledge to build out up to 50,000 charging stations along highways, in residential areas, and at workplaces.
In New York, the governor's office announced a pledge of up to $250 million through 2025 to its electric vehicle expansion initiative, EVolve NY. The New York Power Authority will work with the private sector to install up to 200 DC fast chargers "along key interstate corridors" with the goal of making them available every 30 miles, and it will also bring them to urban areas as well, including at or near New York City's two major airports. Meanwhile, New Jersey's biggest utility owner Public Service Enterprise Group (PSEG) announced a $300 million pledge to build out up to 50,000 charging stations along highways, in residential areas, and at workplaces.
Fuck you. What really "harms consumers" is runaway pollution by vehicle exhaust, that consists 99% of carcinogenic soup of toxic chemicals.
Need to pour trillions into fixing health issues of drivers inhaling carcinogenic exhaust.
For companys that have monopoly
You must not know much about the pollution produced by battery manufacturing or how most of the electricity needed for them is generated.
What is needed for EVs to take off is a safety regulation compliant, not too uncomfortable, basic vehicle that can be driven away for $15000 USD -- preferably less. Build that and you'll probably find coin operated EV chargers installed at every convenience store and office building parking lot. As long as EVs cost ten times the price of a (well) used Honda Civic, Slashdot will continue its unending stream of articles on EV breakthroughs. And the number in actual use will continue to be minimal.
You can't see ANYTHING from a car, You've got to get out of the goddamned contraption and walk...Edward Abbey
$94,000 per station? That seems seriously inefficient.
After all, California only has 777 billion in state debt last time I looked. What is another 700+ million added to that.
;)
Just my 2 cents
This will harm consumers and should be illegal. It wasn't necessary for the states to build gas stations and it shouldn't be necessary for them to build charging stations.
Actually, government support was necessary for the original oil companies.
You may have forgotten about TeaPot Dome, but the history is there.
Even coal relied on the public subsidized water and rail routes.
You're more than welcome to level the playing field. Just tax them back.
Not a big fan of Tesla using their own charging ports for level 2 and level 3 charging. We finally force mobile device vendors to use usb as a standard, and tesla is using its own charging port plugs. People are already complaining about compatible charging stations.
https://chargehub.com/en/elect...
Here's what I'm curious about: Assuming the normal sales tax rate is applied to the electricity sold by these charging stations, is the state making more or less money than the taxes on gas?
I'm guessing less, but I have no idea where to even begin nailing down some of those variables.
Sounds like there is money to be made in the dongle/adapter market.....eh?
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
So the government fucks up by supporting oil and gas and coal and now you want them to support this? Your faith in government is your problem. Do not make it our problem.
I hope the battery powered cars can make it the 30 miles between charge stations. I wonder how much it will cost per gallon equivalent and how much the states' tax payers will have to subsidize these stations?
Rapid advancements in Al are synergistic with advancements in EV technology, particularly in relationship to the rapid advancements in battery technology.
(Looks around at the mish-mash of micro-USB B, USB C, Apple Lightning and Apple 30-pin connectors on various people's mobiles.) Yeah, that worked well. Are you sure you meant that vendors were forced and that they didn't actually resign themselves to adopting their preferred connector-du-jour?
Existing charging stations are almost always under-utilized because they cost too much per KwH.
Since all of these road-side units will be run by the same organization, they won't try to compete on price, which will keep the utilization low, which will force them to either be subsidized or raise the prices, rinse repeat.
I live right near a bunch of DAMS!
Now I will need to park 75 spaces away from the door, after the handicapped, then the 'family' then the 'charging', then the compact. May as well just walk because I am closer to my house than when I started.
Actually...Hey...wait a minute! What a devious plan.
wait for the droughts buddy. Coming soon!
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
It is your problem. You already exist in this world.
Deal with it.
Or go live in Uz, Gnarnia, Muddle-Earp, or RangeRover, it is no particular concern of mine if you should flee to a realm of fantasy.
We need to encourage a future in which the vast amount of charging occurs at home. Slow charges are much better for the batteries and the impact on the grid is less if charging is spread out, coordinated with home systems, and occurs largely overnight. The positive impact to the grid is also maximized in a future where these vehicles are connected to the grid when parked for long periods of time and can be utilized to stabilize it.
Of these three initiatives, New Jersey's sounds best due to more prominent support for large numbers of home installations.
Governments do have a place in this. The place is to clear the regulatory hurdles to installations.
For example, most states will need a law clearing HOA hurdles, especially for those living in condominium and townhome situations who need to be given the right to run electric to their parking spaces without getting HOA permission which is almost always impossible, even if the HOA boards wish to do so. Their hands are usually tied by bylaws that can't be altered without impossible to attain vote percentages. Our HOA has had trouble even electing board members to abandoned spots because they can't gather a quorum. Homeowners are just completely apathetic to the process.
Another is to ensure that new major household systems such as ovens, water heaters, and air conditioners include some communication protocols to help manage household load. This can allow vehicle charging to work around A/C and water heater usage and keep peak draws no higher than they currently are. Since the A/C and water heaters could work around each other as well, it could even lower peak draws versus today. Regulating production of household systems to ensure a healthy grid is nothing new. Without existing regulations, the grid would have collapsed long ago.
So the ones in CA have to be built substantially in poor areas. These folks typically cannot afford electric cars. And the more affluent people who do buy electric cars do not want to drive them into these "bad" areas as they may get vandalized or the "rich people" may get harrased. I have an EV now and would not want to go charge it in some of the places they are talking about building these.
They're choosing one tech over another. Did the government build gas stations 100 years ago? Hell no. Joe blow had to decide "hmmm, haystacks or gasoline. Wat do?". The successful ones chose gasoline.
Who's to say electric charging stations are better than hydrogen refill stations; or, hell, gas stations.
The government needs to butt out and let the market decide. Putting your thumb on the scale only results in a Hillary vs Trump campaign, when there is a very good chance Bernie could have won the whole enchilada. (Bernie vs HRC? HRC in a landslide. Bernie vs Trump? We'll never know. HRC vs anyone with a 40% disapproval rating? Probably the scumbag).
EU requires micro USB for charging. iPhones in the EU ship with dongles to adapt.
Browsing at +1 - no ACs, I ignore their posts. So refreshing!
It did work well. The problem would be worse without it, and the problem gets better with time.
Your sarcasm does nothing to hide your ignorance.
Wait, you mean politicians didn't offer free gasoline in state-owned gas stations to spur along the new horseless carriages owned by the 1%ers of their time? How did the burgeoning industry ever develop?
Ken
You're more than welcome to level the playing field. Just tax them back.
Gasoline companies pay over 58 cents per gallon in federal taxes. They pay plenty of taxes.
Do electric cars pay taxes to build roads and bridges? No.
Ken
Electric Vehicle Charging -> Public Education System -> Illegal Immigrants
The fastest superchargers will take 30 min. It takes me 3 min to fill up the tank.
It makes sense to develop a network of chargers along major interstates for long-distance travelers, so they can enjoy their sundae taco while their car is charging.
As for commuters, they will still need to charge their cars overnight at their homes. Every day.
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Fuck you. What really "harms consumers" is runaway pollution by vehicle exhaust, that consists 99% of carcinogenic soup of toxic chemicals.
You are like Internet herpes.
Gasoline companies pay over 58 cents per gallon in federal taxes.
Huh. How much do they pay when adjusted for subsidies??
That's what I thought.
If the electric car companies were footing the entire bill for this, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
But they aren't, so I do.
Others are only offended by corporate welfare when it benefits a company or industry they have no emotional investment in.
There's no time like the present. Well, the past used to be.
Okay, how about the battery powered / assisted tax bonus being removed. The resulting savings will then be used by the Govt to build charging station out the kazoo! By the way, unlike what some folks believe, gas and diesel powered vehicles do not cause cancer. How do I know? Simple, California hasn't demanded that a caution cancer sticker is put on each tailpipe. Coffee on the other hand is a carcinogen since California could not figure out that it isn't. Oh. btw, when you are charging your car in green mode, don't forget about the birds that fly through the solar facilities and become flaming streamers! Yep, another carbon distribution point along with killing endangered species!
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