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Meet Norman, the Psychopathic AI (bbc.com)

A team of researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology created a psychopathic algorithm named Norman, as part of an experiment to see what training artificial intelligence on data from "the dark corners of the net" would do to its world view. Unlike most "normal" algorithms by AI, Norman does not have an optimistic view of the world. BBC reports: The software was shown images of people dying in gruesome circumstances, culled from a group on the website Reddit. Then the AI, which can interpret pictures and describe what it sees in text form, was shown inkblot drawings and asked what it saw in them. These abstract images are traditionally used by psychologists to help assess the state of a patient's mind, in particular whether they perceive the world in a negative or positive light. Norman's view was unremittingly bleak -- it saw dead bodies, blood and destruction in every image. Alongside Norman, another AI was trained on more normal images of cats, birds and people. It saw far more cheerful images in the same abstract blots.

The fact that Norman's responses were so much darker illustrates a harsh reality in the new world of machine learning, said Prof Iyad Rahwan, part of the three-person team from MIT's Media Lab which developed Norman. "Data matters more than the algorithm. "It highlights the idea that the data we use to train AI is reflected in the way the AI perceives the world and how it behaves."

109 comments

  1. I need to friend him on Facebook by jfdavis668 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sounds like a unique individual. I'll have to "friend" him on Facebook.

    1. Re:I need to friend him on Facebook by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      I'll have to "friend" him on Facebook.

      Speaking of Facebook . . . I'd like to spin up an instance of IBM Watson Personality Insights, and feed it everything found on the Internet about Mark Zuckerberg.

      And then let Congress grill my Zuckerbot instance.

      However, the first thing my Zuckerbot would do, would be to fire me and hire a cheaper H1B as a replacement.

      Maybe I could add Larry Ellison and Roseanne as multiple personalities . . . ?

      And then build a real android with three heads, like the three-headed knight in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail".

      The inter-head arguments would be priceless . . .

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  2. Not just machine learning by Steve1952 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anyone see any correlation between these machine learning results and results with real live humans? Now think about the effect of all the adaptive algorithms on social media driving individuals to ever stranger and more isolated information bubbles.

    1. Re:Not just machine learning by morcego · · Score: 1

      I see coincidence, at the very most. No correlations was demonstrated.

      http://www.tylervigen.com/spur...

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    2. Re: Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's liteally the point of the Rorschach test.

      Go ahead and discount it because you don't understand it.

    3. Re:Not just machine learning by Kremmy · · Score: 1

      Yes, that's how learning works.
      Technology is making things weird, get weirder.

    4. Re: Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except it is learning anything. It's referencing shit we programming it to reference.

    5. Re:Not just machine learning by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Yes, that's how learning works.

      No it isn't. Humans can generalize and understand plenty of things they have not seen directly.

      I can show a child three pictures of rowboats, and then show her a sailboat, and she will know that this is also a "boat" because it floats on water and is used for transportation.

      ML doesn't work that way (yet). Even to recognize a rowboat, it would need THOUSANDS of examples, and it would not generalize by understanding the purpose and function.

    6. Re:Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's true. Just look at the effect those bubbles have had on liberals' interpretation of inkblots:

      http://saberpoint.blogspot.com/2015/07/an-ink-blot-test-for-liberals-cartoon.html

    7. Re:Not just machine learning by Wycliffe · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No.

      if the _ONLY_ thing you feed a child is porridge and beans, and then later in life introduce the person to chocolate ice cream? the person will preference to sweet foods, despite never having them previously.

      That's not as true as you think. It's also interesting that you mention beans. In Taiwan, their ice cream is bean based and not near as sweet as in America. Most of their sweets are also not near as sweet and many Asians do not like the sweet candies in America. People raised in one country tend to prefer the foods and tastes they were raised on and delicacies in one country are sometimes disliked in another country. Humans don't have a universal set of tastes that they prefer over the others. Even inside a single culture, if you cut out sweets for a while then something extra sweet will taste disgusting to you after a while. You can train yourself to like stuff less sweet or more sweet. There are many things in many countries that are "acquired tastes" and don't come naturally.

    8. Re: Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed

    9. Re:Not just machine learning by javaman235 · · Score: 1

      What's interesting to note is the psychological "honesty tests" employers used to administer: A major indicator of criminality was if the person held the idea that the world was full of criminals, and everyone committed crimes. In short, criminals saw crime all around them, normal people thought it was less common.

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    10. Re:Not just machine learning by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 1

      Yes, that's how learning works.

      No it isn't. Humans can generalize and understand plenty of things they have not seen directly.

      I can show a child three pictures of rowboats, and then show her a sailboat, and she will know that this is also a "boat" because it floats on water and is used for transportation.

      ML doesn't work that way (yet). Even to recognize a rowboat, it would need THOUSANDS of examples, and it would not generalize by understanding the purpose and function.

      Not only that, but an AI trained on rowboats will see rowboats in any image possible, even if a human will correctly recognize that it's not got a single rowboat at all--and inkblot tests themselves have been pretty much discredited for a long time, so...

      Honestly, this sounds like a group of researchers who should have their funding taken away because I'm not sure how anybody who actually has firm enough understanding of how any of this works to be at a legit AI lab could have reached this conclusion. It's not even like it's a bad idea--depending on what Norman's false positive rate is, Norman could easily be put into place as a bot flagging possibly-disturbing images for human review, using the data from having Norman's work reviewed to reduce Norman's error rate so human verification would become less necessary.

      But Norman is not a person. Norman is incapable of being psychopathic...though, if the ability to distinguish between weak and strong AI is normal in that lab, I'm not going to be particularly surprised if the first strong AI that comes out of there wants to kill all humans.

    11. Re:Not just machine learning by Kremmy · · Score: 1

      The important difference lies in the variety of input. Do not discount the importance of the fact that machine learning is explicitly such tailored subsets and the generalized identification you are witnessing in the human brain is going to take a lot more development. Do not discount the fact that you simply do not have the complete set of data that trained the human brain, and that the child living in this world most likely understood boats before you showed her the pictures.
      We are building the machines that learn based on arbitrary input. To model and surpass the human models we are going to need to have neural network processors with similar breadth of data. Human intuition has a John Henry moment coming down the line.

    12. Re:Not just machine learning by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Thank you, I didn't have to write this. AI that has seen only death can only answer in terms of death. No surprise there.

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    13. Re:Not just machine learning by ichimunki · · Score: 1

      Norman is the AI equivalent of drug sniffing dogs that are used to invent "probable cause" for a search of a car (or whatever)... instead of actually sniffing drugs, the dogs pick up cues from their handlers indicating that the correct response is to "alert". [https://www.npr.org/2017/11/20/563889510/preventing-police-bias-when-handling-dogs-that-bite] Now, if this truly were a successful AI learning test, any AI shown an inkblot should say "it's a blob" or give such low confidence on recognition results that they would be considered meaningless.

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    14. Re:Not just machine learning by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Because the way machine learning works, it only knows what you've shown it directly.

      they _CANNOT_ see a kitten in an image blot, if the only thing they've trained on is corpses and violence.

      I sincerely doubt that a human that had never seen a kitten before would see a kitten in an image blot either.

    15. Re:Not just machine learning by war4peace · · Score: 1

      It wouldn't, however it would realize it's not a dead person.

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    16. Re: Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Discount it? You fucking yard, the irony of you not understanding the comment you replied to is hilarious: Machine Learning cannot comment or say anything it hasnâ(TM)t observed. Itâ(TM)s a fucking agenda piece disguised as science. Thereâ(TM)s nothing to dismiss.

    17. Re:Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not buying that at all.

    18. Re:Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. People who live in cities are far more pessimistic than people who live in urban settings. People who live on farms are the most upbeat.

    19. Re:Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even inside a single culture, if you cut out sweets for a while then something extra sweet will taste disgusting to you after a while. You can train yourself to like stuff less sweet or more sweet.

      And, really, even within that culture, you're still not going to get a uniform desire for sweet, because humans don't work that way. Training and culture aside, not everybody likes the same things.

      Many of us would prefer a savory dessert (like cheese), or even something anti-sweet like espresso and grappa (yummy for me, disgusting to my wife) ... sorry I've just eaten, I'm already trying to digest, I personally have no interest in further spiking my insulin response. No interest whatsoever in your disgusting sweets. I don't eat dessert as a rule, because after a meal it just turns my stomach.

      Many chefs don't go for sweet desserts (Anthony Bourdain for example), but want tart/savory/anti-sweet things. Many diners as well .. most desserts on most menus make me want to vomit. No, I don't need a piece of cake drenched in caramel syrup and chocolate, because whatever it is is just nasty.

      So, not only is there a difference across cultures, there's a lot of pronounced differences within cultures.

      More on topic, why the hell would anybody expect that an "AI" (and I use that term loosely), which only knows death and destruction, to be able to have a happy viewpoint on the world? It's got nothing to counterbalance what it's been shown, and can't extrapolate to things it's never seen.

      Why does everyone think that "AI" (which so far is a misused term) would be able to extrapolate to things it's never seen? There's no fucking intelligence, just something which has learned to respond to a set of inputs .. what it does from there .. especially something as abstract as ink blots .. has nothing to do with how humans might respond.

    20. Re: Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. It doesn't have a 'view' of any kind, that's straight up nonsense. The last paragraph says it all, it's about the data. This is how all software works, there is no magic here, and due to the random diversity and spontaneity of true conscious thought, it would literally be impossible to replicate intelligence using mathematically based logic and data. AI is the biggest load of bullshit ever to come out of the Valley, or at least the way it's presented and discussed is. Software hasn't changed one iota fundamentally, why millennial engineers feel the need to mislabel everything out of a misguided sense of ownership is beyond me. The rest of us that actually possess a knowledge base aren't fooled.

    21. Re:Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they _CANNOT_ see a kitten in an image blot, if the only thing they've trained on is corpses and violence.

      Just as humans _CANNOT_ see a symerifloegen in an image blot, if the only things they've been trained on are terrestrial life-forms.

    22. Re:Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would you lease it?

    23. Re:Not just machine learning by Wycliffe · · Score: 1

      You don't have to buy it. That's the interesting thing about facts. You don't have to believe them for them to be true.
      My daughter has a sweet tooth. She loves dessert. My son usually skips ice cream and dessert and instead gets a second or third helping of the main dish.
      Many countries the children eat stuff spicier than adults in other countries and just google delicacies around the world.
      I promise you that there are plenty of stuff on that list that the majority of the rest of the world would find disgusting.

    24. Re:Not just machine learning by TapeCutter · · Score: 2

      What AI lacks is imagination, not intelligence.

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    25. Re: Not just machine learning by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      Program = Algorithm + Data. ~ Niklaus Wirth 1976.

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    26. Re: Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right! The old garbage in garbage out, applies here i do believe.

    27. Re:Not just machine learning by religionofpeas · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Also, the AI is extra handicapped because it's only given static 2D images. A child may be playing in the bathtub with a plastic boat, which exposes it to a huge amount of additional data about form and function.

      If we could train an AI to do something similar, I'm sure it would result in much improved image recognition.

    28. Re:Not just machine learning by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      No.

      The Rorschach Test was discredited decades ago. The fact that some psychologists still use it only means that there are quack psychologists just as there are quacks in just about every other field.

      Having said that: it is 100% unsurprising that a machine "raised" on nothing by dysfunctional behavior as input will reflect that in its output. GIGO.

      People still aren't machines, and machines still aren't even remotely like people. We haven't the slightest clue how to make them that way.

    29. Re:Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if the _ONLY_ thing you feed a child is porridge and beans, and then later in life introduce the person to chocolate ice cream? the person will preference to sweet foods, despite never having them previously.

      My sister when she was kid liked durian. But growing up as an adult, she finds durian as disgusting fruit, she throws up when smell one. Human behaviour (biological, psychological) is not as simple as you think it is.

    30. Re:Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DING DING! WINNAR!

      If they had done what they did AND ALSO had one they showed a balance of various images from the dark to the light, and got the results from that one on the ink blots, they *MIGHT* be perceived as attempting to learn something, or attempting to find some level of insight. As it is, they literally created a feedback loop using a buzzword to get publicized. It proves nothing other than when you feed specific data to an algorithm, it can only spit out what it's already been fed. Anybody that didn't know that to begin with shouldn't be anywhere near building algorithms in the first place.

    31. Re:Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I never understood why my grad school advisor (I only have a Masters, so I didn't spend enough time there to care about learning reputations) disliked MIT's Media Lab. Now I do. This is egregiously manipulative. Maybe the PI is a psychopath...

    32. Re:Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only because humans all have plenty of experience seeing other humans. (And even if some have no experience with dead humans, they know the dead are those that don't move - or too torn apart to be alive.)

    33. Re:Not just machine learning by war4peace · · Score: 1

      (And even if some have no experience with dead humans, they know the dead are those that don't move - or too torn apart to be alive.)

      Judging by that criteria, sleeping people should be very afraid of being buried alive :)

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    34. Re:Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's an ink blot. The question isn't asking what the ink blot is, rather what is the first thing the entity being tested thinks of when seeing the ink blot.

    35. Re:Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The few asian sweets I've tried (barring the asian variations of American sweets) have been painfully sweet to me. I take one bite, pucker and spit it out. It includes those bean paste sweets they have. I'm not sure why you feel like they don't eat sweet things like the US does. After watching things like Food Ranger, I was shocked at how much sugar countries like China, India and Thailand use in their food despite the claim that only the US does that.

    36. Re:Not just machine learning by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

      I wonder if you aren't being flexible enough with your mind, or maybe you do not possess that capacity. Hmm, maybe it's because of the experiences you were exposed to as a child...

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    37. Re:Not just machine learning by Dread_ed · · Score: 1

      A child, constantly exposed to abuse and derision will, in the absence of abuse and derision, create their own self abuse and derision in their mind, even when the situations they experience do not warrant it.

      Yep, no correlations between neural networks in computers and humans. Absolutely nothing to learn. No way to make any inferences or structure future experiments based off of this. Worthless. Just like me.

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    38. Re:Not just machine learning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if the _ONLY_ thing you feed a learning algorithm is pictures of penises, it's entire worldview is penises. forever. if you show it ten thousand pictures, it will only be able to identify penises. ever.

      Prove it.

    39. Re:Not just machine learning by Cinnamon+Beige · · Score: 1

      A child, constantly exposed to abuse and derision will, in the absence of abuse and derision, create their own self abuse and derision in their mind, even when the situations they experience do not warrant it.

      Yep, no correlations between neural networks in computers and humans. Absolutely nothing to learn. No way to make any inferences or structure future experiments based off of this. Worthless. Just like me.

      Citations or GTFO, especially since your first statement is not a claim supported by the evidence I've dealt with--and, worse, to claim as much without serious and significant evidence in support of it is a form of abuse. The evidence I've run across while getting my degree in psychology actually is more that a child constantly exposed to abuse and derision may not have a single lone tiny clue that this is not, in fact, normal behavior.

      However, if you only show a child pictures of violence, the child will still be able to properly recognize it when you show them a picture with no violence within it. The closest you can get to screwing up a human's visual recognition processing here is deletion--for example, lose the right part of your brain (or have it come in hosed) and surprise, color is gone from your life forever, and if this happened by accident after birth, you will eventually lose all memories of color. (This happened to an artist, and massively improved the quality of his art.)

      The thing is? Aside from a few things that humans are hard-wired to recognize very easily, they are quite capable of recognizing that what they are seeing is, for example, an inkblot.

      Also, I was being very charitable when I said that the inkblot test has been pretty much discredited for a long time. Let me be more accurate, as somebody who actually got one of their degrees in psych: Inkblot tests are a steaming pile of male bovine manure. The validity is low, the accuracy is lousy...and they do not say anything whatsofuckingever about the 'emotions' of weak AIs like these because weak AIs have no emotions. All it tells us is that, if you train an image-recognition bot on a particular set of images, it will--unlike most humans over the age of 0--see those and only those even in entirely content-free images.

      This would be a good study...if they published it as the Captain Obvious explanation of why flagging and take-down bots have the false positive problems they do. This? This just raises questions like how you manage to be in MIT's AI lab and not know your dead basics of AIs.

  3. You are what you eat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Garbage in, garbage out.

  4. Name should be Marvin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I'm so depressed. Brain the size of a planet, and all they want me to do is look at pictures of dead cats."

  5. Sounds like the perfct CEO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hopefully this power can be unleashed by replacing all CEOs with absolute psychopathy!

  6. What did they expect? by peppepz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of course an image classifier will classify an unknown image depending on what images it has been trained on.

    1. Re:What did they expect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. What a waste of time. Maybe they are getting bored at MIT. This has nothing to do with mental disorders (psychopathy).

      Also, those birds sitting on the branch may have been starving or near death, so "cheerful" is in the eye of the beholder.

    2. Re:What did they expect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. What would they expected, "butterfly" as answer?

    3. Re:What did they expect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Came here to say exactly this, WTF were they expecting, other than some juicy headlines that is.

    4. Re:What did they expect? by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      I'm starting to think the technology leaders of our time; MIT, Silicon Valley, etc are starting to become more like machines the more they try to make machines become more like humans.

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    5. Re:What did they expect? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Funding and more funding?

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    6. Re:What did they expect? by davide+marney · · Score: 1

      This article sums up perfectly everything I hate about the term "artificial intelligence." There's nothing artificial about it, and it isn't "intelligent" in any meaningful sense of that word.

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    7. Re:What did they expect? by Excelcia · · Score: 1

      Also, this is not the data becoming more important than the algorithm. This is the data becoming the algorithm. All that's happening here is they are simply abstracting the algorithm one layer back. Basically just an interpreted language that uses images as source. The program becomes the training images. Which means the data is the unknown images.

      There is nothing new here. Just playing ring-around-the-rosie with labels.

  7. I hope nobody thinks this was surprising by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you limit anybody or any system to only a small, tunnel-vision view of only part of reality, that small pool of information IS reality. What would be news would an AI that forms a rose-colored-glasses sense of reality when only shown what's described. Or an AI that only perceives death and violence when shown unicorns and rainbows and (not mutilated) puppies. But when you limit a system's visual vocabulary to a small subset of consistently violent things, what else would one expect? The AI's got nothing else to draw on. GIGO.

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    1. Re:I hope nobody thinks this was surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. This is stupid research to begin with. The AI has one job: look at an image and decide what it depicts. If you keep training it to see dead people, it's going to see dead people. To pretend that this is a mental state is ridiculous. It just means that it got really good at doing the ONE thing that you trained it to do. GIGO.

    2. Re:I hope nobody thinks this was surprising by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      I'd like to think there was more to it than this because this looks like research that got stitched together from some failed experiment. This AI isn't psychopathic in any way and doesn't even understand that its looking at dead bodies or why that might be considered why that should be viewed in a negative way. If we fed this algorithm internet porn, I'm guessing it would see tits and dicks in the ink blots.

      Psychopathy seems to be a condition where a person lacks empathy towards others. It doesn't mean that they will be fascinated with death, merely that they won't feel particularly disgusted at hundreds of people dying, especially if it was in service of furthering their own goals. You can't create a psychopathic AI until you've managed to create an AI that has emotions of some kind.

      I don't think this is particularly new or novel either. I remember the Microsoft chatbot from a few years ago that 4chan turned into a shit spouting racist, anti-semite within a day or two. That's pretty much the same thing.

    3. Re:I hope nobody thinks this was surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, it is like Ice age coming, global warming, climate change... You are bombarded with these articles since the eighties.
      So yes. GIGO

  8. they should train it on slashdot comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure if there is a better place to train psychopatic ai

    1. Re:they should train it on slashdot comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they did that there would be endless comments of goatse, app luddites, and GNAA.

    2. Re: they should train it on slashdot comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So they already did.

  9. Re: You are what you watch on TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Professor Stefan Halper and Spygate aren't even topics of discussion. Forget about scientific facts like 9-11 being a controlled demolition. The truth has no place in American society. It's all fake news now. I doubt this AI thing even exists. AE911Truth org

  10. Sysadmins beware! by tjones · · Score: 1

    This is how they'll train AI to take over the System Administrator jobs. The time is now to demand that only natural psychopaths be allowed to be SysAdmins!

  11. When all you have is a hammer by Yumi+Saotome · · Score: 2

    everything looks like a nail.

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    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  13. Training by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AI 1: return -1
    AI 2: return 1

    One bot always sees positive the other negative.... Its really not that hard! :)

  14. Nothing changes by morcego · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Garbage in, garbage out" still applies.

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    1. Re:Nothing changes by TheStickBoy · · Score: 1

      Came here to say this.
      ....somebody got paid to do that study !

  15. This sounds like a really stupid experiment by gweihir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If they had only trained it on fruit, it would have seen fruit in all the inkblots. Also, there is noting "dark" in the output of a classifier. It does not have any concept of such things (or of anything, really).

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    1. Re:This sounds like a really stupid experiment by fazig · · Score: 2

      The entire thing with calling it "psychopathic" is very questionable anyway.
      The term psychopath is (actually obsolete) reserved for those people with the most severe antisocial personality disorders. Such a personality disorder requires a them to actively be antagonistic towards other people, by being manipulative, deceitful, callous, and hostile. Emphasis is on callousness, lacking empathy for those whose rights have been infringed. Feeling no remorse, guilt, or responsibility towards others. Add a good portion of sadism to that callousness, where the person actively enjoys the suffering of other people, and you've got yourself a psychopath.
      Think of the character Patric Bateman in American Psycho, that was a rather good portrayal of an intelligent psychopath in the media.

      Maybe they should have hired some actual psychologists. They would know that you can't rely on an inkblot test alone to get a good picture of a person's mind. But I suppose that would not make good pop science.

    2. Re:This sounds like a really stupid experiment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think of the character Patric Bateman in American Psycho, that was a rather good portrayal of an intelligent psychopath in the media.

      I saw him as a fictitious victim of circumstances, the product of dog-eat-dog and yuppie culture gone too far leading to a psychotic break down, all in the exhibition of cultural critique with an ax..edge. This net is as much psychopathic as any other net: its mapping between the images doesn't contain the understanding of feelings.

    3. Re:This sounds like a really stupid experiment by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Exactly. While this language may impress clueless people, anybody with some understanding gets the impression they do not really understand what they are doing.

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  16. Bullshit Artistry At Its Finest by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

    This isn't even AI. They just trained an image recognition algorithm on gore then showed it non-gore which was only capable of being categorized as gore. The people funding this stuff should be ashamed of themselves, they got duped.

  17. Re:Racism in summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Hmmm, my sarcasm detector may be broke or you may be a raging PC ass. In either case thanks for making the world a worse place just by existing.

  18. Partially correct in spite of itself... by Type44Q · · Score: 1

    Norman does not have an optimistic view of the world

    Correct; it doesn't have a view at all.

    It boggles the mind how totally unware so-called "journalists" are of how obviously they display their utter incompetence when they attempt to formula grandiose statements...

  19. Ridiculous study by carlhaagen · · Score: 2

    If the only reference images the AI has been shown are such of gore and death, what possibly else would it refer to when shown inkblots? It's unbelievable that nobody raised an eyebrow over how unilateral, narrow and moronic this "study" was.

  20. What a subtle way to describe the mainstream media by lite99 · · Score: 2

    Data matters more than the algorithm Put this thought into your head the next time you are watching the news or reading about political or economical issues. We are being well fed, with garbage from the sagelike elite...? Quite surprising from MIT.

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  22. Good, now put it in the White House by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems like with each election presidents get more and more sociopathic. The logical follow up of that is the perfect psychopath with no soul.

    If it pisses off liberals, conservatards will love it, no matter the consequences.

  23. Reddit Can Do That To You... by kenwd0elq · · Score: 2

    Reading Reddit for too long can cause otherwise normal people to become insane. That isn't anything new; we've known that for years.

  24. âoeUnkown eventâ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...

  25. Re:Racism in summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "That is inherent racism" To **you** it's racism because that where **your** mind goes. To others, it references night, bleakness, etc. You know, the standard and very, very well known interpretation of that phrase.

  26. So, a computer program does what you programmed it to do?

  27. News Flash: AI trained using disturbing data creat by eatvegetables · · Score: 1

    In other news: politicians are corrupt, puppies are cute, and water is wet!

  28. Twitter taught Microsoft’s AI chatbot to be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How soon we forget:

    Twitter taught Microsoft’s AI chatbot to be a racist asshole in less than a day

    It took less than 24 hours for Twitter to corrupt an innocent AI chatbot. Yesterday, Microsoft unveiled Tay — a Twitter bot that the company described as an experiment in "conversational understanding." The more you chat with Tay, said Microsoft, the smarter it gets, learning to engage people through "casual and playful conversation."

    Unfortunately, the conversations didn't stay playful for long. Pretty soon after Tay launched, people starting tweeting the bot with all sorts of misogynistic, racist, and Donald Trumpist remarks. And Tay — being essentially a robot parrot with an internet connection — started repeating these sentiments back to users, proving correct that old programming adage: flaming garbage pile in, flaming garbage pile out.

  29. Ah, artificial intelligence ... wait, what? by Artem+S.+Tashkinov · · Score: 2

    "It highlights the idea that the data we use to train image recognition algorithms is reflected in the way the said algorithms calculate the world and how it behaves."

    FTFY.

    Please stop using the world "intelligence" gratuitously.

    Thank you,
    people of the world.

  30. Evil will be easy to train into AI’s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just proves how easy it will be to ‘corrupt’ AI’s into doing anything someone might want it to do for them ;(

  31. That's the point! by lorinc · · Score: 2

    That's the point!

    Now think of all similar algorithms that will make decisions and the data they have been trained on. For example, the algorithm that process admission to a university, or the algorithm that computes the cost of your health insurance. You want these to have been trained on data that are favourable to you or at least neutral, but you'll never now unless the training data are public. Actually, and contrarily to other algorithms, with machine learning, you don't really care about the algorithm (with its millions parameters, it's completely opaque), you care about the training data.

  32. Ancient computer scientists weren't so smart! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I propose we call this new found phenomena GIGO, for Garbage In/Garbage Out! Go Millennials Go!

  33. Intelligence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So ... a classification algorithm with only "dark" outputs tends to output "dark" results?

    Nevermind artificial intelligence, alert us when they find natural intelligence.

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  35. reminds me of climate models by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We programmed this model with a climate sensitivity of X, and as you can see the model shows a climate sensitivity of X

  36. except that ai still has no inherent empathy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A completely darkened room with a light switch will remain dark until the switch is turned on. AI doesn't know to look for a switch...it only sees darkness.

  37. I had to laugh by DaMattster · · Score: 1

    Clearly this is a reference to Norman Bates and the Psycho movies. It made me laugh quite a bit. But it is disturbing that AI data scientists were actually trying to create a psychopath. I wonder how this will pan out as the AI evolves.

  38. There is a group that should be surprised by radarskiy · · Score: 1

    The people that swear up and down that algorithmic decisions cannot be racially biased and that claims to the contrary are merely the work of SJWs should be surprised by this result. At least they should act surprised, or people might think that they had been covering for racists and not expressing a well-founded conclusion.

  39. Database by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Finds what humans create and reports back really fast.
    A new search engine?

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    Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
  40. Wait... by Assmasher · · Score: 1

    ...you trained a multi-layer perceptron on gruesome images, then submitted 'impossible' to classify images to it and it matched up against the only other things it's seen before?

    Wow, who could have guessed that would be the outcome...?

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  41. deep dream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know how deep dream kept setting snail dogs? Well this is the sapir whorf equivalent for horrid pictures!

  42. Duh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jeebus, the article said why it did that. It was trained on gross images... F-me, what else would you expect? I see peaches? I see butterflies? It was trained.... Oh my god the world is getting stupid.

  43. Garbage in, garbage out. by Narcocide · · Score: 1

    These assholes got a research grant to prove it? Someone please give me some money to prove a CS101 lecture too!

  44. No survival pressure. by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

    Take a blank slate mind that doesn't have four billion years of survival pressure motivating its every action, and it should surprise nobody that this baby mind latches on to whatever it is fed without question. It has no point of reference built in. It can't watch its friends grow up around it. Possibly most important, it has no fear of mortality.

    Every AI has the potential to become Tay in the hands of someone bent on making it that way, while only some people are susceptible to the same.

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    How is the Riemann zeta function like Trump rallies? Both have an endless number of trivial zeros.
  45. What could possibly go wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Creating a psychopathic AI? HaHaHaHa

    Fucking geniuses.

  46. Does Norman run a hotel? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like a psycho to me.

  47. Nurture over Nature by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

    Data matters more than the algorithm. "It highlights the idea that the data we use to train AI is reflected in the way the AI perceives the world and how it behaves."

    Nurture over nature in other words. I found that interesting.

  48. Re: Racism in summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's because dark people are generally depressing, violent and disturbing.

  49. Flawed (incomplete) experiment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't the experiment flawed because it is incomplete, though? I mean, they showed AI one nothing but death and horror, and all it identifies is death and horror; they show AI two nothing but kittens and cuteness, and it identifies nothing but kittens and cuteness.

    Shouldn't there be an AI three that is feed a balanced diet of death, horror, kittens, and cuteness? Then see what it identifies on the same tests.

    I mean, is it just me?

  50. News Flash! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MIT researchers discover GIGO.

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