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KDE Plasma 5.13 Released (kde.org)

jrepin writes: KDE unveils the final release of Plasma 5.13, the free and open-source desktop environment. Members of the Plasma team have focused on optimizing startup and minimizing memory usage. Plasma Browser Integration is a suite of new features which make Firefox, Chrome and Chromium-based browsers work with your desktop. For example, downloads are now displayed in the Plasma notification popup, and the Media Controls Plasmoid can mute and skip videos and music playing from within the browser. Browser tabs can be opened directly using KRunner via the Alt-Space keyboard shortcut. System Settings design has been improved further. Window manager gained much-improved effects for blur and desktop switching. Wayland work continued, with the return of window rules, and initial support for screencasts and desktop sharing. You can view the changelog here.

96 comments

  1. Pretty cool by 110010001000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is pretty cool. One of the biggest features of a desktop is browser integration.

    1. Re:Pretty cool by Ecuador · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, Microsoft was the pioneer. I remember how they explained that IE was so integrated into Windows that they could not remove it. Decades ahead of the competition...

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    2. Re:Pretty cool by 110010001000 · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I remember when Microsoft had a feature called "Active Desktop" (I think) where you could embed webpages into the desktop. So when the embedded Internet Explorer invariably crashed it would take down the desktop. Brilliant engineering. It is only a matter of time before some Millennial comes up with the same idea.

    3. Re:Pretty cool by Ecuador · · Score: 2

      Oh, come on, active desktop was a pretty mature product coming from the people who developed Bob!

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    4. Re:Pretty cool by ArchieBunker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Don't worry, Poettering will include some alpha build code in the next systemd release.

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    5. Re:Pretty cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you've combined your meme of microsoft being stupid with the classic millennial rant/whimper, how interesting.

      Not.

    6. Re:Pretty cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aww let me guess... you're having an avocado sandwich at your parents house while running Windows.

    7. Re:Pretty cool by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

      Sorry snowflake. Truth hurts I guess.

    8. Re:Pretty cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like the truth that for general computing Windows is a more accesible easier to use operating system than all linux distros and regardless of how much you all bash on Microsoft the fact remains that they have a better product as it stands right now.

    9. Re:Pretty cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spoken like someone who hasn't tried installing or using Linux in the last 5-10 years.

      You know nothing.

  2. KDE isn't perfect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    <Churchill>KDE is the worst PC desktop, except for all of the others. </Churchill>

    1. Re: KDE isn't perfect... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I have a dual boot Windows 10/KDE Ubuntu 16.04, and find the start menu makes more sense on KDE, the user interface on the whole makes more sense on KDE, and perhaps nicest of all, I'm not being spied on all the time.

  3. Fixed Akonadi yet? by Tough+Love · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Fixed Akonadi yet? I would say, get rid of the MySQL dependency for a start, or can you not spell ACID? If that is too hard, then just kill Akonadi.

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    1. Re:Fixed Akonadi yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd rather they just got rid of it. It's a waste of resources for something I do not use.

    2. Re:Fixed Akonadi yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      there are plenty of instructions for how to disable akonadi around the place.

    3. Re:Fixed Akonadi yet? by Carewolf · · Score: 1

      Fixed Akonadi yet? I would say, get rid of the MySQL dependency for a start, or can you not spell ACID? If that is too hard, then just kill Akonadi.

      No, it still finds new way to crash. It was woring for whlie, but is now broken again..

    4. Re:Fixed Akonadi yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I too suffered under broken resource-hogging Akonadi for a long time under Debian.

      Then i switched to Arch and Akonadi flies completely under the radar, unless you check for it you would never know it was there.

      SO many distros are Debian-based, I think they all inherit the bad KDE builds that Debian makes.

    5. Re:Fixed Akonadi yet? by Maelwryth · · Score: 1

      I agree. Just take the thunderbird codebase and fork it or something. Installed Neon...Akonadi problems...Installed openSUSE Leap 15....Akonadi problems...now on Kubuntu 18.04 and everything seems fine so far but I am a little Akonadi shy.

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  4. Still can't trust KDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    KDE still can't be trusted and won't be able to be trusted until they close their source. Because KDE is open source, anyone can look through the source code, find the bugs and vulnerabilities, and exploit them. With apps like Konqueror that make network connections, and anyone able to view the source to find the bugs, KDE is basically a ticking time bomb. KDE can be trusted for security when they transition to being closed source software.

    1. Re:Still can't trust KDE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      won't be able to be trusted until they close their source

      Bill?
      Steve?

  5. window tabs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'll stick with KDE4 still.

    "KWin does not provide window tabs" -- https://community.kde.org/Plasma/5.13_Errata

    1. Re:window tabs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      We don't have per-desktop wallpapers in Plasma either, for some reason.

      That said I still feel like Plasma is much better than KDE4 overall and worth the update... try it out.

    2. Re: window tabs by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      What?

      I'm looking at two different wallpapers in Kubuntu 18 right now. The default behavior is to have a wallpaper per display...

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    3. Re: window tabs by MachineShedFred · · Score: 2

      Ohh, you're talking about virtual desktops. Carry on...

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    4. Re:window tabs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree it is better in almost every way, however I find the kwin window tab feature too valuable to pass up. I have tried Plasma a few time but always go back to KDE4.

    5. Re: window tabs by renegadesx · · Score: 1

      Yeah I was going to say, I have 3 screens and all have different wallpapers. Virtual desktops: funny I never even noticed they were gone. I used to use them alot when I was a teen (hiding pornography at a moments notice they came in VERY useful).

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  6. KDE still around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What year is it? 2002?

    1. Re:KDE still around by BlazeMiskulin · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes. KDE is "still around".

      A quick google of "best linux desktop environments" results in...

      • Lifewire: KDE Plasma is #4
      • Tecmint: KDE Plasma is #2
      • ItsFoss: KDE Plasma is #1
      • FossBytes: KDE Plasma is #1

      It might not be the best for you, but it's still one of the top DEs.

    2. Re:KDE still around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Especially since KDE Plasma deals with display resolution independence WAY better than Gnome. That's a good enough reason to give it a try right there.

      Having a Hi-DPI display, and one that isn't, plugged into the same system on Gnome is a fucking shit show. They managed to handle it the worst way possible, and still haven't done anything about it years later. And no, their "fractional scaling" kludge in Wayland isn't a fix when you can't run Wayland on half the god damn hardware out there.

    3. Re:KDE still around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the fact that Gnome desktops try to act as if I'm on a tablet or phone or other device with an IO-crippled, not-properly-multi-windowing interface when I'm on a desktop. Except when I want to resize a window. Then I'm sitting there with a pixel-accurate pointing device squinting at the screen, trying to nail that single pixel wide line that resizes the window, because why would alt-rightclick to resize be enabled by default?

      For all the bad things about KDE, the basic underlying interface doesn't generally induce in me a desire to throw the device I'm using it on through a wall.

    4. Re: KDE still around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback
      logout, login to the gnome flashback session and forget about all your DE problems.

  7. NOT KDE 5! by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't let the devs year you call it KDE 5 - they are quite adamant that there is no such thing. It's "KDE Plasma" and they will deny the existence of KDE 5 for hours before revealing that fact if you ask them about it in a support channel. Just a cautionary note for KDE users - DO NOT use the term "KDE 5" if you ask for help from the KDE support people, you'll never remember what your original issue was until the discussion ends.

  8. "blur to make it look modern" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    uh?

    If there is so much attention on the looks... why are kde apps still bloated with empty, unusable space?

  9. Re: Fuck you you stalking little cunt... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's hilarious when you become enraged. I don't feel threatened by you at all. It's impossible to take you seriously. You're angry because you've done nothing with your life other than troll Slashdot and Arstechnica for the past 16 years. You're really triggered by the fact that my net worth is $50 million more than your net worth. I might actually be threatened by you if I could take you seriously.

  10. And there was much rejoicing by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or not. One can't help but feeling that the Linux flagship desktop offerings (Gnome and KDE) are more and more irrelevant with every passing year. Linux keeps spinning its wheels in the desktop, and the prospects are that this will remain true for the foreseeable future. I wouldn't be surprised those two offerings - big, ponderous, resource-hungry, my-way-or-the-highway (especially Gnome) - are contributing decisively to keep things the way they are as far as Linux's share of the desktop market is concerned. Well, at least, under Linux, there (still) are alternatives.

    1. Re:And there was much rejoicing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Plasma isn't much heavier than Xfce actually, and is far more modern. I alternate between them both, and as of 5.10 noticed I was spending more time in Plasma than anything else. When .13 hits the Void repos, with its support for global menu from all kinds of applications, I may switch to it permanently. There's a few small things that still bug me about it, but KDE has finally gotten close to where it was in the 3.5.10 days again.

    2. Re:And there was much rejoicing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The trouble is application development on top of KDE - i.e. new applications - has almost stalled. Indeed, many KDE 3 apps still haven't been ported across to Plasma. It may have some wondrously elegant architecture, but nobody has the enthusiasm to learn it now.

    3. Re:And there was much rejoicing by Parker+Lewis · · Score: 1

      Yeap, because we know that soon we'll have KDE 6 and working apps will got broken.

    4. Re:And there was much rejoicing by matt.mccann.8 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I used to use Gnome and some of what you say is true, especially the resource demand of Gnome. More recently I've been using KDE on openSUSE Tumbleweed and it's been awesome. They have really smoothed over many of the roughest edges and tuned it up to be very light on resources. It offers compelling features such as KDE Connect to link up with your mobile Android phone and is very slick in that regard. And KDE is definitely nowhere near my-way-or-the-highway territory. It is extremely customizable and has become more intuitive in how to do so in the 5.xx series. Finally, I'd say that the desktop in general is a shifting paradigm, but still an important component. I think they are as relevant as any other desktop setup in their respective ecosystems. With containerization and things like Snaps and Flatpaks becoming a simpler way to distribute apps on Linux, the desktop has many compelling things to offer a user.

    5. Re:And there was much rejoicing by bryanbrunton · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but the Linux flagship desktop offering is ChromeOS. Not Gnome or KDE.

      Millions of school kids use ChromeOS every day.

    6. Re:And there was much rejoicing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't be surprised those two offerings - big, ponderous, resource-hungry,

      You didn't even have to read the article to know that's inaccurate with regard to the DE being discussed. From the posting on /.:

      "Members of the Plasma team have focused on optimizing startup and minimizing memory usage."

      It's also worth noting that the release announcement directly mentions targeting low end ARM based laptops. There is obviously room for debate on what counts as low end, but KDE plasma is trying to address resource use & has been for some time now.

  11. APK IS MELTING DOWN YET AGAIN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

    ROFFLE DOFFLE!

  12. LMAO - You've just proven you're a liar... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LMAO - You've just proven you're a liar - nothing more. A person who is successful wouldn't be stalking &/or harassing me like you do, loser.

    * Thanks for proving my point AND what I called you - a pussy liar.

    APK

    P.S.=> You're reprehensible & disgusting... apk

    1. Re: LMAO - You've just proven you're a liar... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hilarious butthurt from APK is incredibly hilarious.

  13. Re:IMPERSONATING ME AGAIN? Please... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We believe you APK. Just like we believe you when you make posts pretending to support yourself. The failure with APK is strong and every idea he has ever had is an abortion.

  14. Re: Enjoy the downmod you deserve, & pussy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow. You've got Internet Tough Guy... on Slashdot.

    Just when I didn't think your unintelligible screeds couldn't get more pathetic, you stretch to grab the bar and move it lower.

    Good job, loser. 1993 called and wants its hosts file clusterfuck back.

  15. Re: Fuck you you stalking little cunt... apk by MachineShedFred · · Score: 0

    If you were half the security expert you claim to be, you wouldn't:
    A. Even give a fuck about what randoms on the Internet say;
    B. Need him to give you his name, address, etc. so you can act tough and pretend like you would actually even entertain the idea of a physical confrontation.

    Just what the fuck would you do if he gave you that information, anyway? Book a flight? Go bang on his door and yell at him? What if he opened it and shoved a shotgun in your face and told you to get the fuck off his property before he hollowed out your skull like a canoe? After all, you've already left public records of threats of physical violence here for people to see, so a claim of self defense isn't exactly a stretch.

    Do you even think before you post this shit? Wait, don't answer, we already know.

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  16. Re: IMPERSONATING ME AGAIN? Please... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's unfair, APK is a very stable genius just like that other guy.

  17. Registered /.ers disagree... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017

    (APK's work), I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon February 11 2016

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015

    I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015

    I do use APK's host file on all my systems at home by OrangeTide December 01 2017

    I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27 2017

    APK

    P.S.=> See subject, those quotes above & you turning up a lying loser (lol) publicly here https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12224626&cid=56774660/ (no wonder you HIDE behind UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts pussy) ... apk

    1. Re:Registered /.ers disagree... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And APK posts his standard list of out of context quotes that if included the full context you would see that people say that he is a fucking nut job, he over states his abilities, he over states the capabilities of hosts, and that his hosts file engine generates a properly formatted hosts file from other people's existing properly formatted hosts files. What a fucking accomplishment there APK, maybe you should include the full posts next time so people don't have to remind you of how much of a fucking failure you are.

  18. just one question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    can i disable any and all animations and eyecandy?

    1. Re: just one question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes

    2. Re:just one question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Alt+Shift+F12

  19. Nobody says it of your notware.. apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Those quoted do say they like & use my work. Others know it - no "twisting" it from you https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12199712&cid=56751026/ + /.ers don't say it about YOUR "non-existentware" do they? Nope.

    * They do of MY work...

    APK

    P.S.=> You have issues & AGAIN - PROVE YOU HAVE 50 MILLION DOLLARS as you said here https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12224626&cid=56774208/ because until you do YOU ONLY PROVE YOU ARE A LIAR... apk

    1. Re: Nobody says it of your notware.. apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's funny how easily you become angry and obsessed. You'll probably be demanding every AC who criticizes you for the next two weeks to prove they have a net worth of $50 million. You are incredibly annoying, but yet I'm quite amused when you become obsessed and have one of your frequent meltdowns.

  20. Prove you're worth 50 million dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Your unidentifiable ac posts lying about yourself & impersonating or stalking ME prove you're psychotic & a delusional lying loon only worth 50 MILLION LIES, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Prove you're what you say you are - you can't. You're full of shit & I can see you in some filthy hovel wishing you hadn't wasted your time + life hating yourself - it's SO obvious - a successful person worth 50 million wouldn't stalk/harass & impersonate me (they'd be too busy maintaining their lives instead)... apk

    1. Re: Prove you're worth 50 million dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      APK is obviously butthurt when his offtopic post gets modded down and he feels the need to repost it.

      What's the matter? Couldn't back up your claim about porting your hosts file garbage to BSD and now you're butthurt about being called out? Too funny...

  21. I didn't post it & do others say this of you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017

    (APK's work), I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon February 11 2016

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015

    I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015

    I do use APK's host file on all my systems at home by OrangeTide December 01 2017

    I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27 2017

    * See subject & answer that question

    APK

    P.S.=> You're just another FAKE NAME for your FAKE LIE OF A LIFE "MachineShedFred" & you KNOW it... apk

  22. Prove you're worth 50 million dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Your unidentifiable ac posts lying about yourself & impersonating + stalking ME prove you're psychotic & a delusional lying loon only worth 50 MILLION LIES, not 50 million dollars you lied about here https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12224626&cid=56774628/

    APK

    P.S.=> Prove you're what you say you are - you can't. You're full of shit & I can see you in some filthy hovel wishing you hadn't wasted your time + life hating yourself - it's SO obvious - a successful person worth 50 million wouldn't stalk/harass & impersonate me (they'd be too busy maintaining their lives instead)... apk

  23. Re: Fuck you you stalking little cunt... apk by Wootery · · Score: 1

    A noble effort, but trying to reason with ACs is like trying to play chess with pigeons.

  24. Cat GOT YOUR TONGUE chatterbox? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Answer the question asked you here "MachineShedFred" FAKE NAME for your FAKE LIE OF A LIFE https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12224626&cid=56776160/ internet 'talk, talk, talk' DO NOTHING "ne'er-do-well" you are... ok, BIG TALKER (all talk, no production = you).

    APK

    P.S.=> "Big BAD Fred" criticizes BUT HAS NOTHING TO SHOW FOR HIS WASTED LIFE, lol... apk

  25. Oh look - shitty 'flat' icons... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... and buttons that don't look like buttons! How original!

    Why, it's almost as if the 'designers' behind the KDE desktop are a bunch of assholes who blindly COPY whatever Crapple/Microsoft does, no matter how unusable it is. Well done! Give yourselves a pat on the back for blindly jumping on the 'flat' bandwagon.

    Is there any option to change the 'flat' shit to 3D BUTTONS so we can instantly see what is and isn't a button? Of course not! That would be too easy!

    1. Re:Oh look - shitty 'flat' icons... by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      Maybe changing the icon set in the KDE settings window is just too hard?

  26. Cat got your tongue FAKE name boy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Answer the question asked you here "MachineShedFred" FAKE NAME for your FAKE LIE OF A LIFE https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12224626&cid=56776160/ internet 'talk, talk, talk' DO NOTHING "ne'er-do-well" you are... ok, BIG TALKER (all talk, no production = you).

    * Little do-nothing PRATTLING WORM = you & you KNOW it (but I did offer you to prove otherwise, only problem is, YOU CAN'T you zero, lol)

    APK

    P.S.=> "Big BAD Fred" criticizes BUT HAS NOTHING TO SHOW FOR HIS WASTED LIFE behind a FAKE NAME online (anyone can do THAT, especially losers like you), lol... apk

    1. Re:Cat got your tongue FAKE name boy? by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      I don't place value on myself based on what prattling idiots like yourself say on the Internet. I am secure in my life, my accomplishments, my family, and my marriage. You couldn't mean less to me, and your opinion is worthless.

      I feel honored that I've clearly rattled you in calling you about on your Internet tough guy routine to the point of adding me to your stalker list. I won't be replying to you again, because you just don't matter. And, anyone that might matter already knows that you don't, so whatever you may post will fall on deaf ears.

      TL;DR: you are a giant tool, and you would be doing the world a favor if you just shut up and let your "accomplishments" speak for themselves.

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  27. Re: Fuck you you stalking little cunt... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet we see fake name for a FAKE LIE OF A LIFE like Wootery run from a simple question apk asks MachineShedFred https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12224626&cid=56776160/

  28. Re:KDE is free software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Windows 10 is supported by ads, telemetry and the money you spend on a licence.

    Plasma 5 is supported by donations.

    Your post is supported by Down's Syndrome.

  29. Citation please? by gosand · · Score: 1

    Plasma isn't much heavier than Xfce actually, and is far more modern. I alternate between them both, and as of 5.10 noticed I was spending more time in Plasma than anything else. When .13 hits the Void repos, with its support for global menu from all kinds of applications, I may switch to it permanently. There's a few small things that still bug me about it, but KDE has finally gotten close to where it was in the 3.5.10 days again.

    I was a longtime user of KDE, but switched to XFCE about 7 years ago and haven't looked back. I find it hard to believe that KDE is somehow now not "much heavier" than XFCE, but would like to hear specs about why you say that is so. A quick search found the system requirements, which are heavier for KDE, but I'd like to know what you're referring to with your statement.

    Not looking for a holy war, just curious. I really doubt I would go back to KDE because I've tried others (MATE, Cinnamon) and really just prefer XFCE.

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    1. Re:Citation please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I run with Intel HD 4500 onboard and 4G of RAM, no discrete GPU, and most of the simpler window effects run pretty damn smooth.

      It even pulled me away from i3wm (very minimalist Window Manager). that's how efficient and easy to use KDE Plasma is now.

      The DE being heavy or light is also customizable, disable most of the "search" services and it cuts down on RAM usage like crazy. I use mlocate with a systemd timer to update the database, no need for Plasma's services to duplicate file searching functionality.

      Not sure I'll have use for heavier browser integration in the new version, but maybe it'll impress me, who knows?

    2. Re:Citation please? by matt.mccann.8 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Here's my two cents annecdote. I'm currently running Plasma 5.12 on openSUSE Tumbleweed. I have a computer for my wife that runs Ubuntu Mate. KDE feels right in line with the speed of Mate. That was not the case in the 4.xx series or early 5.xx series, but since around Plasma 5.8 it has been exceedingly smooth. Now are XFCE/Mate type desktops perhaps a little lighter? Maybe. But I'd think you would be pleasantly surprised by the speed of KDE these days. But if XFCE is your style then no reason to switch.

    3. Re:Citation please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I run with Intel HD 4500 onboard and 4G of RAM, no discrete GPU, and most of the simpler window effects run pretty damn smooth.

      Translation: I have a relatively modern computer and some of KDE does not run smoothly.

      I've got a Core 2 Quad with 8G RAM and a GTX 750. It runs any version of Windows, OS X, or any of the major Linux distros smooth as butter except for KDE. There is no reason for that. Most of the effects are useless. It's a pile of gilded bloat that should be regulated to deep recesses of the Linux sphere as a gimmicky toy to play with on lazy weekends.

      I think the only reason it hangs on is that reviewers who never actually use the system like to show off the bells and whistles.

      KDE (and Gnome) are cancer to Linux. Anyone promoting them should be ashamed of themselves. The developers should be shunned by the industry.

    4. Re:Citation please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Specs and WM or whatever you actually use instead of these "cancers" or you're just a troll.

  30. Yet registered /.ers say this of MY work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017

    (APK's work), I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon February 11 2016

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015

    I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015

    I do use APK's host file on all my systems at home by OrangeTide December 01 2017

    I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27 2017

    * See subject & Answer this question - Do they about YOUR non-existent "HOTAIRWARE", chattering dolt?

    APK

    P.S.=> You WISH you were me you UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous JEALOUS Jowie "ne'er-do-well" do-nothing ZERO you are.. apk

    1. Re: Yet registered /.ers say this of MY work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've been spamming Slashdot for, what, 16 years now? No doubt, you've made thousands of spam posts over those years. In all that time, you can only find eight quotes to take out of context that say anything positive about your work? That should be a sign that almost nobody likes you or your hosts file nonsense.

  31. KDE ROCKS & I created this on it... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & via APK Hosts File Engine 2.0++ 64-bit for Linux h t t p : / / a p k . i t - m a t e . c o . u k / A P K H o s t s F i l e E n g i n e F o r L i n u x . z i p (remove spaces between characters & download).

    Yields more security/speed/reliability/anonymity vs. any SINGLE solution (99% of threats = hostnames vs. IP address (that most firewalls use)) more efficiently/FASTER + NATIVELY 4 less!

    (... Vs. "Bolt on 'MoAr' illogic-logic" competitors slowing you, hosts speed you up 2 ways (adblocks + hardcodes u spend most time @) vs. competition loaded w/ bugs (DNS/AntiVir) + their overheads (messagepass ('souled-out' to advertiser addons) + filtering drivers) & their complexity leads to exploitation).

    * Created in FreePascal/Lazarus 1.8.2 using GTK3 on OpenGL 3.1 via KDE Plasma desktop on Kubuntu 18.04 plus patches.

    APK

    P.S.=> Enjoy - it's much better vs. the Windows model on many fronts (speed & efficiency, mostly (plus new "merge" feature))... apk

  32. Registered /.ers opinions of the Win64 model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017

    (APK's work), I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon February 11 2016

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015

    I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015

    I do use APK's host file on all my systems at home by OrangeTide December 01 2017

    I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27 2017

    * See subject: Best part is this Linux 64-bit model is faster & more efficient (does 2x the work in 1/2 the time, literally)

    APK

    P.S.=> Enjoy a faster/safer/more reliable internet... apk

  33. Re: Fuck you you stalking little cunt... apk by Wootery · · Score: 1

    Yeah yeah. AC comments on Slashdot are consistently of far worse quality than those posted by 'named' (generally pseudonymous) users.

    You two ACs (if you really are two different people) have been 'conversing' at the level of unruly children.

    The Internet-tough-guy nonsense? Heaven spare us.

  34. Re: Fuck you you stalking little cunt... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're a FAKE NAME from your self-delusional phantasyland of your dull brain FAKE NAME for your FAKE LIE of a LIFE do-nothing "ne'er-do-well" Wootery!

  35. Aw! Can't backup your bullshit? Yes... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PROVE you have a 1,000 employee company and are worth 50 million dollars instead of your 50 million lies https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12224626&cid=56774548/ - prove it.

    * Otherwise you're 50 million lies you unidentifiable do-nothing "ne'er-do-well"... which you clearly are.

    APK

    P.S.=> Of course, you've ALREADY PROVEN all I say above about you & "your kind" sitting in your 1 room filthy HOVEL somewhere sucking on the welfare tit, lol (& you KNOW it - now, everyone else does too)... apk

    1. Re: Aw! Can't backup your bullshit? Yes... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Again, I don't seek your validation. I seek for you to see how annoying and ridiculous you have become, so you'll either become less annoying or just leave. I rather enjoy reading Slashdot when you're not posting.

      I don't need your validation, though. Your jealousy is also incredibly obvious, hence the desperate efforts to discredit me throughout this thread. I'm going to France next week to meet with a distributor, then going to Monaco to vacation and party over the weekend. I promise you, not once during my trip will I be thinking, damn, I really need APK's validation that I'm really doing this. The value of my assets does not depend on the approval of someone who spends day after day spamming Slashdot about his inferior security software.

  36. Yea, yea yea (bs) PROVE you have 50 million $ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yea, yea yea (bs) PROVE you have 50 million $ instead of 50 MILLION LIES - ok? You do that, then, we'll talk & MAYBE I'd believe you (not)...

    * ... as you can BET that nobody believes you anymore than I do!

    (Jealous? Bwaahahahaha! Of a bs artist CLEAR LIAR in yourself?? Please - you think everyone makes "money their God"? Clue: I don't & have enough + am happy w/ my life as is (everything paid off & running my own businesses too doing well for a decade++ no longer having to "take trips" as you're doing "SUPPOSEDLY", probably not (those ARE a pain in the ass imo)).

    APK

    P.S.=> Douchebag - ANYONE can "talk", anyone (even losers like you), very FEW of us as are a DEMONSTRATABLE DO (like me)... apk

    1. Re: Yea, yea yea (bs) PROVE you have 50 million $ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you were successful, you wouldn't be obsessed with trying to discredit me. That's your logic, not mine. Prove you have everything paid off and run a successful business.

      I'm not endorsing or defending your logic, just turning this around so you can see what a moron you are.

      Remember, people actually want the products my business produces, unlike your hosts file bullshit.

  37. It's not anger: It's laughing @ U running by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PROVE you have 50 million $ instead of 50 MILLION LIES - ok? You do that, then, we'll talk & MAYBE I'd believe you (not)...

    * ... as you can BET that nobody believes you anymore than I do!

    ESPECIALLY AS YOU STALK ME BY UNIDENTIFIABLE ANONYMOUS PUSSY POSTS...

    Lastly on "NET WORTH"? "NET WORTH" = HUGE illusion (means you're like a drug dealer w/ his gangster roll, all debt that has to ROLLOVER into your next buy, NOT REAL WEALTH DISPOSABLE INCOME & risky as hell, NOT LIQUID & bad risk...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Douchebag - ANYONE can "talk", anyone (even losers like you), very FEW of us as are a DEMONSTRATABLE DO (like me)... apk

    1. Re: It's not anger: It's laughing @ U running by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By demonstrable do, you mean that you've written a program that a senior in high school could have done a better job coding. Your software downloads other people's hosts files, concatenates and sorts them, removes duplicate entries, and writes the result to the file system. Again, a senior in high school could have done as well or better with an end-of-semester project.

  38. LOL! You're discrediting yourself stalking me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL! You're discrediting yourself stalking me by unidentifiable anonymous posts & NOT PROVING you have "product" I do others like & use (even a guy that I do NOT get along w/ is "giving it a go" today here on /. https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12229650&cid=56779724/ & I'll have to wait out his opinion (Linux version IS better by FAR vs. my older Win64 one others ALREADY SAID THEY LIKE & USE https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12224626&cid=56775116/ so it SHOULD "go ok" & I hope he enjoys it...)

    * BIG DIFFERENCE between YOU & "Your KIND" (liars & bs artists that stalk me nigh endlessly on /. & for years online elsewhere)? I can DEMONSTRATABLY show even my HOBBIES do well & do well by others...

    IF your "product" IS PURE BULLSHIT (which clearly it is)? SORRY - normal people do NOT like "your product" hotairware.

    APK

    P.S.=> ... & YOU? Just plain CAN'T, lol - see the difference? There's "LOGIC" even an ILLOGIC-LOGIC using liar psycho like YOU should understand (normal people like myself that actually DO things they CAN SHOW, do - not "your kind", lazy "ne'er-do-well" BULLSHIT ARTISTS like yourself, clearly can't)... apk

  39. So you've stalked me by ac posts for 16 yrs.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: What I can show (want more? Ask) is growing as of the past week (EETech1 asked for a link & even PopeRatzo's trying it https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12229650&cid=56779724/ )

    * HOW ABOUT YOU "big talker" do-NOTHING zero lazy "ne'er-do-well" STALKER of myself like the psycho nut you are?

    (ZERO I can see, & that's what ANYONE NORMAL thinks of "your kind", JEALOUS Jowie, lol...)

    APK

    P.S.=> Many others here have - but I see ZERO from anyone saying ANYTHING GOOD about a damn thing you've done (which is clearly, nothing, lol)... apk

  40. Then YOU aren't even equal to those kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Mr. "hotairware" or rather (lol) "notware" vaporware that when I simply ask you to prove your bluster you RUN (where's that 50 million dollars? More like 50 MILLION LIES, lol!).

    APK

    P.S.=> You really, Really, REALLY MADE ME LAUGH on "Net Worth" illusion you kept trying to sound "so big" on (apparently you have a 2" dick if "money is your God" & YOUR "sense of worth" (lol, "net worth" ILLUSION))... apk

  41. WTF? I'm still testing it (users are too) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I even said that + you're running (where's that 50 million lies, net worth ILLUSION non-liquid). I did abstractions others say are "difficult" https://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12218352&cid=56765568/ - not me https://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12218352&cid=56765500/ ... & unlike "your kind" & YOU? I can demonstrate REAL working MULTIPLATFORM product (even in my hobbies like this one).

    * A something others here LIKE & USE (in an older inferior model no less) https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12224626&cid=56776634/ - & you?

    ZERO!

    By the way: I didn't start this "topic" - you JEALOUS JOWIES did & I shut you down by making you all RUN, lol... like you.

    By the way, again - PROVE you have 50 million (net worth non-liquid ILLUSION, lol).

    APK

    P.S.=> That MAY not be your fault but LAZINESS is curable (necessity is the mother of invention & creativity) but perhaps NOT in your case WELFARE SUCKER (on the tit), lol - after all, what do YOU have to show for yourself? Nothing... apk

  42. Re: Fuck you you stalking little cunt... apk by Wootery · · Score: 1

    Yeah, you said. My points remain.