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Ubuntu Makes Public Desktop Metrics (ubuntu.com)
Canonical introduced Ubuntu Hardware/Software Survey in Ubuntu 18.04 and has since been collecting data (it is optional, and users' consent is taken; Ubuntu says 67 percent users opted in to the survey). Now for the first time, it is revealing the stats, shedding light on how Ubuntu users like things around. The takeaways from the result: Installation Duration: The average install of Ubuntu Desktop takes 18 minutes. Some machines out there can install a full desktop in less than 8 minutes!
Installer Options: Another interesting fact is that the newly introduced Minimum Install option is being used by a little over 15% of our users. This is a brand new option but is already attracting a considerable fanbase.
CPU Count: A single CPU is most common, and this is not very surprising. We haven't broken this down to cores but is something we will look in to.
Disk Partitioning Schemes: Most people choose to wipe their disks and reinstall from scratch. The second most common option is a custom partition table.
Display: Full HD (1080p) is the most popular screen resolution, followed by 1366 x 768, a common laptop resolution. HiDPI and 4k are not yet commonplace.
Installer Options: Another interesting fact is that the newly introduced Minimum Install option is being used by a little over 15% of our users. This is a brand new option but is already attracting a considerable fanbase.
CPU Count: A single CPU is most common, and this is not very surprising. We haven't broken this down to cores but is something we will look in to.
Disk Partitioning Schemes: Most people choose to wipe their disks and reinstall from scratch. The second most common option is a custom partition table.
Display: Full HD (1080p) is the most popular screen resolution, followed by 1366 x 768, a common laptop resolution. HiDPI and 4k are not yet commonplace.
I'd be doing a custom install to have more swap space if it wasn't such a chore to do it manually.
Wow, so Ubuntu has more voluntary users than Windows 10.
See subject: It's FINALLY gotten to where I prefer it over Windows (@ least 10, 7 I still like) due to excellence in dev tools (FreePascal + Lazarus IDE 1.82 = awesome) which is REALLY all I need.
I have one of those system noted that installed FAST (little longer than they said for me, maybe 20 minutes or so iirc) by using MINIMAL installation choice (installing other things via DISCOVER later (really nice GUI front))!
I tried Linux in 94 (Slackware 1.02) - lousy hardware support/weak in software available (it was only a baby then though). Then Redhat 1999 (better on hardware but still weak (software too & quality of it)). Then 2010 on Kubuntu 10.10 (THEN, I was like "it's close now but no cigar").
HOWEVER 18.04 + patches = excellent...
I mean it: I really, Really, REALLY like it (over Windows of any kind now & BSD (both of which I have on other SSD/HDD here now & what am I running daily? Linux)).
APK
P.S.=> I didn't OPT-IN to that data collection BUT I am contributing to the effort of MAKING Linux even BETTER via creating a "1st of its KIND" program in GUI (afaik/afaict) in APK Hosts File Engine 2.0++ 64-bit for Linux (Blows away the Win32/64 model I did years before by FAR on tons of levels (speed/efficiency/features)) https://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12218352&cid=56765500/ & GUI is the FUTURE + "the FUTURE, is now"... apk
Number of people using it who have ever touched a boob: 0
You have identified what appears to be a correlation between lack of breastfeeding and an interest in non-mainstream PC operating systems later in life. Correlation does not imply causation, but it does imply that someone ought to research the common cause.
So what might be the common cause of the two? Is it parenting style? Some missing nutrient in infant formula? Some hereditary disability that leads to both failure to lactate and interest in information technology? A brief Google Search session dug up a demonstrated correlation between bottle feeding and autism, and elsewhere there is a correlation between highest-functioning (Asperger-type) autism and IT interest.
Short of certain AAA games that don't exist on any other platform, there really hasn't been a compelling reason to bother with WinDOS in a long time. It's simply no longer the "default necessary option". Those days have been over for awhile now.
You can get over the Stockholm Syndrome now.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
My monitor is about 12 years old. I've thought about buying a new 4k monitor, just because mine is old. This data really surprised me. I figured most people would have 4k monitors by now. (especially with all of the advertising Apple is doing about their Retina displays)
Why is that? Reading some reviews online, a few people said 4k was unusable as a computer monitor because all of the icons became impossibly small. Is that true?
One of our competitors trademarked the term "hypothesis". From now on, we will call them "boneheaded ideas".
or just buy enough ram to meet your memory needs
And attach it to a laptop how? Some compact laptop models sold in 2018, such as the Dell Inspiron 11 3000 series, max out at 4 GB of internal RAM. Would it be practical to buy a USB RAM drive for use as swap, /tmp, and bcache?
How do they know the number of users if consent is required? If they said "don't participate", and Canonical KNOWS this, that means data was sent back to them regardless of consent!
My first guess is that Canonical has some way of estimating the number of users who consent to security updates from its repository but do not consent to the Hardware/Software Survey.
Win10 takes 18 minutes to check updates, installing those updates requires your bosses approval for a 3 week time off from work, a preacher, a chiropractor, and some green vomit cleaner.
Huh, seriously? Ubuntu is like the normie distro. It would be stuff like Gentoo and Arch with a disproportionate share of virgins.
I recently upgraded to a 4K display since my employer was willing to provide me with one. I figured I would mostly just appreciate that it was a physically larger screen than I had had before. I also figured I would get most apps to scale such that they would take up the same space and look the same.
I had a few surprises.
Not surprising is that some apps just don't scale. I've had problems with tk-based apps in particular. But I expected problems with xterm, vncviewer, and other apps that all worked perfectly with a little tweaking. I was surprised how well most stuff worked. Occasionally the only solution is to run the app in a VNC session, and then use the vncviewer to scale it.
What has blown me away is how frustrating I find my other desktop with 1080p screens. My eyes never complained before, but now that I'm used to text properly scaled on a 4K screen, the 1K screens are painful.
So don't upgrade to 4K unless you're ready to upgrade all the computers you regularly use.
My first guess is that OP doesn't need to hibernate his PC because normal sleep is good enough to get the user's computer to the next power outlet (if a laptop) or past a brief power outage (if a desktop on a UPS). In fact, Ubuntu disables hibernate by default in PolicyKit for a couple reasons. One is that hardware support is so spotty. Another is that hibernating with a read-write mounted file system that other systems can write in the meantime can cause data corruption. This could be removable media or a shared partition on a dual-boot system.
Besides, I thought the swap space should be separate from hibernation space in case the committed memory at hibernation time exceeds the size of the swap file. This can be the case if (say) you have 8 GB of RAM and 12 GB of swap, but you have 14 GB of committed memory.
Spoken as someone who is completely out of touch with the normal workforce.
Trying to do my job without a windows machine would be impossible. The software I use simply doesn't exist for linux.
The same goes for the software I use for my hobby / side job.
If you can point me in the direction of professional pipeline analysis software that runs under linux that would be a good start. Keep in mind we also need to run structural software, cad software and 3d modeling. All have to be vetted by the industry and need to be compatible with industry normal practices. So something that is fully compatible and with comparable output to Caesar II (for piping) STAAD or RISA for structural, AutoCAD, Plant 3D, REVIT for CAD, Inventor and Solidworks for 3D modeling.
For my hobby I just need linux to run photoshop, or run an equivalent which is fully compatible a wacom cintiq pressure sensitivity and will output in CMYK. (So no, GIMP will NOT work here... for the tenth, or perhaps eleventh time). It would be nice if linux supported the first party software for my film scanner as well, so I can take advantage of the infra-red scanning for dust removal for old slide film.
But yeah, sure, there are no compelling reasons to bother with WinDOS. If all you do is browse the interent and work in computer science, I'm sure linux is "the-bees-knees". For the rest of use, however, it's not even a bit player in this game.
Or are they basing it on number of downloads vs number of opt-ins?
There are ways to count installations. Install image downloads aren't one of them given how easy it is to install multiple machines through sneakernet or BitTorrent. A better way involves estimating how many people are running sudo apt update (or the automatic counterpart) to obtain the latest package index from default repositories.
Are those windows users really CHOOSING to use that OS? Or was it forced upon them and they are either too lazy or don't want to learn something new?
how is your precious privacy violated by declining to answer a survey, Anonymous Coward? Mind you, if you answer this question, information about your browser, ip address, previous site visited before coming to slashdot, etc. will available to slashdot.or and other sites like google-analytics and content delivery systems. In addition, other readers on this forum will be able to view and respond to your message.
As an aside, a LOT of Engineering software does in fact run on Linux though, some of it exclusively. CAEPIPE a competitor to Caesar does run on Linux. There has also been a lot of pressure on CADWorx to port to Linux as I know some orgs would like to move their engineers to A LInux platform. I for one am not suggesting that it needs to happen either. In my world, people use all three major OS together without any issues.
> in that Windows has every Linux feature, plus AAA games.
Can i recompile windows kernel? ... you got the idea...
Can i replace the window manager?
Can i remove closed source programs? Even, can i really disable MS tracking? Will never again those options show up again as enabled?
Can i just trust MS to update all my software, like in linux with their package manager?
Can i choose what installs i do want to install? will windows really obey to that?
Can i setup complex network setups (hint: MS used linux to setup the network in their azure)?
Can I run play games many games with vulkan (hint: all new feral ports are using vulkan, while the windows version is still in direct3D)?
Can i run big servers, with lot of services with little performance lost?
Can i
By the way, we do have AAA games in linux... not as many as windows, but we do have then and they work fine...
Yes, windows can run many linux apps, but performance sometimes shitty... if i want to run a docker linux, why would i do it inside a windows? even linux instances/vm are cheaper and faster in linux... So If linux do everything that windows do, faster, cheaper, cleaner and with more freedom, why would i switch over to windows, just because some AAA games? with 1300 linux games i have in my steam account, i really do not care about those games
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So something that is fully compatible and with comparable output to Caesar II (for piping) STAAD or RISA for structural, AutoCAD, Plant 3D, REVIT for CAD, Inventor and Solidworks for 3D modeling.
That's fucking hilarious. Allow me to quote the relevant part back to you:
Spoken as someone who is completely out of touch with the normal workforce.
Velociraptor = Distiraptor / Timeraptor
Hey, the right tool to the right job!
If your job require windows, that is OK... now most people do not really need windows anymore, but most still use it because they really do not know how to switch or want to learn new tools... and yes, some tools are better than other, you will miss some features but you can also learn new ones... but you should know that, you use several CAD/3D software, you already know that one tool is good for one task, but bad for another.
But it is possible to do 3D work in linux, many people already do it and with 3D printers, that field should improve even more. From a quick search freecad, Qcad, maya, blender, brl-cad, k-3d, Archimedes. I did work with people that used Maya and Blender on linux and they made amazing jobs
Finally, you can also require your software makers a linux version... in the past all of then would ignore then, but slowly they start to listen... and with opengl, vulkan, .NET, C#, QT all working on all systems, it is easier to add the support.
Higuita
I recently had to reinstall Ubuntu on several machines because of corruption on ext4 partitions due to a power failure. In all cases, it booted to a screen indicating that fsck had to be run manually and then the machine wouldn't boot after running fsck or it would boot but critical apps would crash on startup. I learned my lesson and now ext4 is completely dead to me. When I rebuilt the machines, I used xfs instead since I've been running that on all of my other machines for almost 15 years and have never had stability issues regardless of how many times the machines unexpectedly lost power. Pro tip: if your machine uses UEFI and you want to install Ubuntu with a root partition of xfs, Ubuntu will allow you to do that but it won't boot after installation - you need to create a separate partition for /boot which uses one of the ext variants and then an xfs partition for /.
In other words, there is no compelling reason to use Linux. I'm simply using your logic, in that Windows has every Linux feature, plus AAA games.
Come again?
Features windows doesn't have: btrfs, zfs, custom kernels, minimal text-only installs, ability to run from a USB stick or CD without a bastardized container install.
Features Linux doesn't have: price tag above $0, shitty activation requirements tied to a single machine, built-in spyware, unavoidable "upgrades" which often break the OS, and some games.
Yeah, sure, they're just about equal ...
What I'm getting from your comments is that even Gene Ray now prefers Linux.
Short of certain AAA games
Huh? Who gives a shit about gaming?
How well does Linux run widely used design tools like Altium? How well does it support commercial drawing software with pen input? How well do the non-existent Creative Suite ports work? Where's the native Netflix app or Edge needed to stream in the highest quality due to DRM restrictions, to say nothing of the bluray support? What about all those email clients which can't seem to even provide a small portion of the functionality of Outlook, let alone Office apps that don't at all integrate with Microsoft Sharepoint, Exchange, or Skype for Business? And if you are into gaming, what about the actual non-AAA games that don't exist on Linux and are much better than their AAA counterparts anyway?
You can get over the Stockholm Syndrome now.
Why would we want to? You're not presenting a compelling alternative.
The activation requirements can be very dangerous too, if it decides that your install is somehow not legit (which can occur due to false positives) it can cause a denial of service and shut the machine down. Linux doesn't self-destruct like that.
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Come again?
Features windows doesn't have: btrfs, zfs, custom kernels, minimal text-only installs, ability to run from a USB stick or CD without a bastardized container install.
Windows has IFS interface allowing new files systems to be plugged in without permission. btrfs and zfs IFS driver are available for windows.
Windows server core / nano does exactly this.
I've run windows from a USB stick. Not a big deal. It's just as pointless as running Linux from one.
Features Linux doesn't have: price tag above $0, shitty activation requirements tied to a single machine, built-in spyware, unavoidable "upgrades" which often break the OS, and some games.
There are commercially supported versions of Linux that do cost money. Ubuntu came with built-in spyware.
Personally I desperately want Linux to work because I hate Microsoft's spyware and forced updates. When 7 is no longer viable it's Linux all the way no matter what.
As far as upgrades go I'll take windows over Linux any day. I have VMs of all manner of Windows and Linux dating back 20 years. Can't even install basic software on these Linux systems anymore without pulling source code and compiling it myself because even relatively modern versions ... package libraries for that version were wiped from package servers years ago and no longer exist. Windows I can plug an XP client in today and still get updates for it that exist without any problems.
Even "LTS" distros are not supported nearly as long as Windows XP or Windows 7 is. Linux major upgrades are a crapshoot as to whether the system will be bootable and in working order to the extent where it is not a viable option to even attempt it. Every Linux system I have ever used inevitably comes down to me pulling source code and compiling shit myself because the distro owners think my life revolves around upgrading to the latest and greatest version.
Linux needs to do a LOT better with compatibility.
It needs a stable driver API for hardware drivers. Right now if it isn't in mainline it stops working a version or two down the road.
There needs to be a continuous upgrade path that is continuously available and reliable over timescales of decades.
Software must be fully backwards and forwards compatible over timescales of decades.
With each new day compatibility is increasingly worth more than new features.
Huh? Who gives a shit about gaming?
Looks like about 1.2 Billion people
If it weren't for games, I wouldn't be running Windows on my primary home computer. Unfortunately, while Linux support for games is getting better, many of the games I like to play are only Windows (and sometimes Mac as well).
But I am fortunate that I can run Linux on my work computer, since I'm doing web development and don't need any specialized programs. I do have a Windows VM I can fire up if I really need it (checking IE compatibility of the web-pages, for example), but I can't even remember the last time I've had to do that.
Windows has IFS interface allowing new files systems to be plugged in without permission. btrfs and zfs IFS driver are available for windows.
They're both test implementations which are completely unstable, are missing features, and apparently have no ongoing development. Ergo no, windows does not have zfs or brfs.
Windows server core / nano does exactly this.
I don't think you know what the word "custom" means. So no, windows does not have custom kernels. Though I'm sure MS will make one for you if you have a few million to spend.
I've run windows from a USB stick. Not a big deal. It's just as pointless as running Linux from one.
I agree; it's completely pointless for windows because, as I said, it requires you to install it in a container and it runs like crap. It also requires you to buy a corporate version of the OS, so again you're paying out the ass. Whereas Linux doesn't care one bit whether you put it on a hard drive or a USB stick and will work perfectly fine on both. So we agree that no, windows cannot be properly run from a USB stick.
Your responses are zero for three at this point; do I really need to go through the rest?
MS is in the same position as the 90% of housewives who "cant tell talk from mutter".
All machines now run legit copies on Linux, except the OpenBSD one.
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Windows has IFS interface allowing new files systems to be plugged in without permission.
In what way? I thought developing to the IFS interface, or any other Windows kernel-level interface for that matter, required paid permission from one of the Extended Validation (EV) code signing certificate authorities trusted by Microsoft. An ordinary $15 open source developer certificate from Certum won't work; it has to be specifically EV for Windows 10 (source), and last I checked, EV certificates were available only to a corporation or LLC, not an individual developer.
Nice one, Gene. What happened to your website bro? I noticed it's not up any more. Give up on the Time Cube thing?
No, pretty much everything - even GNOME - handles the higher DPI at least moderately well.
The problem is that you need to DRIVE all those pixels, and LCDs are garbage at anything other than native resolution. For gamers, who are usually the primary adopters of any tech, even gimmick ones like 4K, that means an extra $300-$800 to have your games not look like @$$, and even then you're going to have to sacrifice certain VQ options to keep a decent framerate.
Looks like about 1.2 Billion people [geekwire.com]
I was being facetous while pointing out there's a shitload more to Windows lock-in than gaming.
Exactly, copy protection schemes only ever hurt the paying customers...
I used to buy Amiga games which had those stupid code wheels or required codes from the manual etc... Invariably i would lose the manual/codewheel, lose the original floppies or they would become corrupted etc. Usually i ended up acquiring a cracked copy of the game i had bought so i could continue playing it, eventually i just skipped the redundant purchasing part and went straight to acquiring the cracked copy.
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What's a "living LOL" and why wouldn't a dead one suffice?
Ezekiel 23:20
Percentage of people using it: 1% /.: 100%
Number of people using it who have ever touched a boob: 0
Percentages of people using it who also post on
Mac User :
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Windows user :
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Linux User :
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I do NOT expect locally installed and contained software and operating systems to "call home".
Then how do you expect that the publisher of security updates for your operating system notify you when said updates are available?