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China Will Partly Lift Internet Censorship For One of Its Provinces To Promote Tourism (theverge.com)

In an effort to promote tourism, the southern tropical Chinese island of Hainan will no longer censor its internet. "Visitors to select areas of Hainan will be able to access Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, according to a new plan authorities have put together to turn the province into a free trade port by 2020," reports The Verge. "It's not clear if other banned platforms will be uncensored." From the report: The three-year action plan was published on Thursday, but removed from the local government website by Friday, as spotted by the South China Morning Post. For Hainan, China will lift part of its censorship system, or what's known as the Great Firewall, that blocks access to most foreign social media and news sites. Tourists will be able to enter designated zones in Hainan's two major cities to access Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Other banned foreign social media platforms, like Google, Instagram, or WhatsApp, haven't been mentioned.

Ironically, China appears to be censoring people's reactions to the news that some censorship is being lifted. One user on Weibo commented that people weren't allowed a chance to provide any feedback on the new tourism plan. "Thousands of comments have since been deleted. As if censoring people solved the problem."

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  1. Admiral Ackbar said it best by TimMD909 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a trap!

    They've basically turned that whole island into a honeypot

    1. Re:Admiral Ackbar said it best by ole_timer · · Score: 1

      more than those sites are for advertisers?

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      nothing to see here - move along
    2. Re:Admiral Ackbar said it best by TimMD909 · · Score: 1

      more than those sites are for advertisers?

      We're on Slashdot. Most of us are smart enough not to click on the links ;-)

    3. Re:Admiral Ackbar said it best by ole_timer · · Score: 1

      true enough!

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      nothing to see here - move along
    4. Re:Admiral Ackbar said it best by pots · · Score: 1

      There's precedent for this. Hong Kong is mostly free from censorship, and I think Macau has some censorship free areas. It's not about being a honeypot, it's about the fact that Hainan is an island and so there's a physical barrier there to the spread of ideas.

    5. Re:Admiral Ackbar said it best by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      I just visited Macau a few months ago. No filtering or blocking anywhere in the territory as far as I could tell, just like Hong Kong.

      Certain hotels—mostly catering to wealthy/connected foreigners—in major Chinese cities also have unfiltered Internet.

      (I am not going to tell you which ones, sorry.)

      If you bring your phone from home, you can use your own carrier's mobile data unfiltered when you're in China. You'll also pay out the nose for it, but it's there.

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    6. Re:Admiral Ackbar said it best by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      There's far more than Hong Kong and Macau in terms of special zones and provinces. China has all sorts of zoning systems where various rules do or don't apply. The most common of these are the special economic zones which promote foreign investment. One example I've seen of a policy in a special economic zones is that foreign companies can punch through the great firewall with a VPN without port blocking or other bans.

    7. Re:Admiral Ackbar said it best by AHuxley · · Score: 2

      Its like the few VPN products that "work" at full speed in China, always. While no other VPN products will work...
      China has the keys so the products work.

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      Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
  2. Hainan Resort is a fun map... by bev_tech_rob · · Score: 1

    On Battlefield 4....

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  3. This is a no brainer by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    Wanna go to China? Don't care about the censorship? Have fun.

    Wanna go to China and you're concerned about censorship? Oh, hey, this place I wanna go to lets me access CNN and FB, let's go!. How about "fuck no, you're giving money to a totalitarian government that is trying to get money from you".

    1. Re:This is a no brainer by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      I'm glad you get to make such a clear-cut and principled choice.

      Some of us have family there, and some of the older members are simply not up to travelling overseas.

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  4. 2+2 Cuts Both Ways, Ya' Know by buravirgil · · Score: 1

    If You Had Behaved Nicely The Communists Wouldn't Exist
    ~ Jenny Holzer, Survivor Series
    Abuse of Power Comes As No Surprise
    ~ Ibid.

    Censorship is not the only narrative. China has never conducted a foreign war. Its border disputes are complex and its civil wars overwhelm western approximations or experience, but all my life the propaganda-driven mythos of 5 Chinese Brothers has dominated western narratives. All my life the warning is: China is about to lash out as it spirals into chaos and strike by some vague mechanism never revealed.

    Assertions about distinctions of freedom, scrutiny, liberty, and "peace" find iconographic anchors and argument long anemic and recycled-- especially Tiananmen Square-- a tragedy by all accounts and without relevance. Had Chinese leaders allowed western corporations to "collect data" about its citizens and "know" more than the government itself about its consumer trends, desires, habits, fears, and proclivities, it would have been treason. Western interests would have had unprecedented and unmeasured advantages in banking, shipping, commodities, and currency exchange markets. Western and European corporations might have sought to choke the nation entire because it would have been plausible.

    Dissonance on the topic is stark and nearly ubiquitous: As Americans learn how their own enterprises cannot be trusted as they compete for dominance and all of Google rests on the promises of anonymous collection, the NSA, CIA, and FBI have all acquiesced to contractors and admitted, if only representationally, what corporations CAN know about any individual dwarfs the methods and and resources once the monopoly of the US government.

    What China has historically experienced is reeling from unexpected invasion, and the meddling of foreign powers with its neighbors. China has always been forced to protect itself. Yet most western narratives assert China's now plus billion people are "trapped" and its actions aim to accrue some capital to be an aggressor all while the US places military bases everywhere else around the world. South China Sea? How is China's military or trade strategies in waters so close to its borders even a topic? Because most discussions about China by so-called educated people resemble the boasts and assertions of teenagers at play with a game of Risk.

    Maintaining global balances of trade is how the US insinuates itself into far off lands and some of it is reasonable. I'm no apologist for criticism of central planning politics and its inevitable corruption, but the "drums" of western dialogues on the topic are exhausting and puerile.

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    1. Re:2+2 Cuts Both Ways, Ya' Know by aberglas · · Score: 1

      Go read Document 9.

      The west and China are not just two different competing empires. One values democracy, free press, civil society. The other is a repressive dictatorship.

      The trouble with repressive dictatorships is that when they go off the rails there is no peaceful way to change their leaders. Western democracy is not perfect, but bad leaders go, and are limited. Imagine if Trump ran China, without any of our checks and balances. Xi does run China and wants to make China great again.

      That is what is different and concerning.

    2. Re:2+2 Cuts Both Ways, Ya' Know by buravirgil · · Score: 1

      Go read Document 9.

      Reading: What Other People Should Do

      Calling either the US or China empires is what Little Big Boys Who Confuse What They See On the tee-vee News with the Game of Risk, and/or Thrones. There's a map somewhere in your realm of confusion. You might read it to see how China is designated a republic, qualified as socialist, while the United States is a democratic republic. They're both full of people that value what their mommies and daddies, and what their mommies and daddies (and so on) had a long time ago. These same people value what they have right now and what they hope their children, and their children's children (and so son), might have.

      See how that works? Each culture assigning value to what was important, still is important, and might be important? For themselves? Without the need to dismiss whole populations oceans as less enlightened? Less _____ or More _____ of anything so important it necessitates 800 military bases in 70 countries?

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      Would were! Should is! Could be! And live a hundred times three.
  5. Re:Censorship (protectionism) is GOOD by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    I also get along fine without most of that stuff when I'm in China. I've still not found a good substitute for Google Translate's character recognition, though. Fortunately, I now know enough of them that I can usually find my way around without much trouble.

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  6. Re:Don't do it China! by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    ^Look and learn, kids: This is what happens when you hold your copypasta wrong.

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  7. Trying a change in one province first by spth · · Score: 1

    Modern China has a tradition of trying major policy or law changes in one province first (and then, if it goes well possibly extend them to the whole country a few years later).

    It makes sense to me: we often have politicians and people in countries debating about the possible impact of some far-reaching legislative or policy changes (and often the discussion mostly ignores precedent from other countries where available). But actually trying it on a limited scale gives some useful data