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Red Hat Changes Its Open-Source Licensing Rules (zdnet.com)

Posted by EditorDavid on from the taking-licenses dept.

An anonymous reader quotes ZDNet: When leading Linux company Red Hat announces that -- from here on out -- all new Red Hat-initiated open-source projects that use the GNU General Public License (GPLv2) or GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL) v2.1 licenses will be expected to supplement the license with GPL version 3 (GPLv3)'s cure commitment language, it's a big deal. Both older open-source licenses are widely used.

When the GPLv3 was released, it came with an express termination approach that offered developers the chance to cure license compliance errors. This termination policy in GPLv3 provided a way for companies to repair licensing errors and mistakes... Other companies -- CA Technologies, Cisco, HPE, Microsoft, SAP, and SUSE -- have taken similar GPL positions... In its new position statement, Red Hat explained that the GPLv2 and LGPL, as written, has led to the belief that automatic license termination and copyright infringement claims can result from a single act of inadvertent non-compliance.
"We hope that others will also join in this endeavor," says Red Hat's senior commercial counsel, Richard Fontana, "to reassure the open source community that good faith efforts to fix noncompliance will be embraced."

ZDNet points out that the move to new licenses "doesn't apply, of course, to Linux itself. Linus Torvalds has made it abundantly clear that Linux has been, will now, and always shall be under the GPLv2."

160 comments

  1. If a company sales a product that violates gpl, th by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hogwash, companies who are secretly modifying gpl products and selling them as those gpl products deserve no good faith.

  2. Many Red Hat products are Apache licence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Look at the middleware offerings..... Not GPL.

  3. too much optimism? by bobby · · Score: 2

    My overly optimistic reaction, without having studied the details, is that other distributions will fear legal messes and will drop systemd.

    Please don't anybody burst my bubble. Sigh.

    1. Re:too much optimism? by Megol · · Score: 0

      Childish.

    2. Re:too much optimism? by iggymanz · · Score: 0

      No, systemd is childish and badly engineered, without regard for the proper Unix way of doing things.

    3. Re:too much optimism? by bobby · · Score: 1

      Thank you. A quick review of "megol's" posts reveals mostly personal attacks and insults. Hopefully someone will downmod.

      Back to the topic: I don't care if some want to use systemd; my complaint is that systemd is default in too many major distributions and difficult to remove.

    4. Re:too much optimism? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, systemd is childish and badly engineered, without regard for the proper Unix way of doing things.

      GNU's Not Unix. macOS is a Unix operating system, GNU/Linux and Android/Linux are explicitly not Unix so while there absolutely is valid criticism of systemd, criticising it on the basis that it does not follow the Unix philosophy is misguided.

  4. Red Hat the only viable Linux anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Plenty of pathetic attempts at gaining desktop market share with Linux. Red Hat was smart enough to abandon that ideal early and focus on profitable means of using Linux. Not enough sure Torvalds really much of a influence anymore with Linux as a company like Red Hat is?

  5. Organized crime must be crushed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That incudes every criminal who takes money without doing just as much hard work for the money, as we did to obtain it.
    Especially it it is done off the backs of inventors, creatives, engineers, and other people who actually come up with shit.
    And even more so, if they harass and terrorize people who do not play along with their leeching schemes.

    Like everyone, who acts like ideas or information can be "owned"... in blatant violation of actual physical reality... just to be able to take more money for forever, by just sitting there, doing noting, but take money every time anyone copies and pastes.

    So if you are such a creator, and do not want to feed such pirates (yeah, we're going to use the exact word they used to terrorize us), at the very least, use GPL 3.

    I prefer the NOLICENSE license though.
    It states that NOBODY is allowed to ever use my software. (It implies that any sane person will not give a damn about such criminal imarinary artifcal scarcity monopoly schemes, and ignore the license.) Below, it non-normatively states, that nobody will be prosecuted for breaking the license... *unless* he ever uses "intellctual property" to make money or harass people etc. Then it will be used to completely and utterly destroy said criminal. Unless he decides to undo his damage in 14 days and stops using the concept.

  6. Scare tactics. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Red Hat explained that the GPLv2 and LGPL, as written, has led to the belief that automatic license termination and copyright infringement claims can result from a single act of inadvertent non-compliance.

    No, it's copyright behavior that's led to that. Intentional that the licenses ride shotgun on that since in the early days everyone was afraid of their license being taken advantage of. e.g. Tivo, patents, etc.

  7. Why do you hate Reagan, Jesus, and democracy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know that Reagan was a socialist by your fascst standards, right?

    You know that Jesus was even more so, goong far beyond even communism and hipies in his philosophies, right? Wich is the basis of Christianity.

    You know that democracy and your fascist (aka neo-con) dog-eat-dog law-of-the-jungle "free market" are mutually excusive opposites, right?

    Fuck you, fascist livestock/parrott, for being so damn retarded, that you actually back your own enemies, against you!

    1. Re: Why do you hate Reagan, Jesus, and democracy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus is a libretarian....who wants us to all be voluntary socialists. I don't recall Jesus useing force to coerce anyone.

    2. Re: Why do you hate Reagan, Jesus, and democracy? by ruir · · Score: 1

      I also do not recall Spider Man coercing anyone.

  8. Can they do that? by willoughby · · Score: 1

    I thought the GPL would not allow additional conditions and this reads like, well, an additional condition. I need Bruce to explain this to me. Where are you, Bruce?

    1. Re:Can they do that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The original author(s) can add any condition they want, as long as it gives you extra freedoms (the reverse is possible legally, but then it is not GPL anymore). If this was not the case it would not be possible to combine a BSD work with a GPL work. After all, one could end up in the BSD license starting from GPL and simply adding exceptions that give the user more freedom until it is essentially BSD.

      Redhat is stating that it will add this exception to all their GPL work going forward. In practice little will change, but it may make GPL software more palatable in some companies since you can't loose any future access to the software due to a mundane mistake.

    2. Re:Can they do that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As the copyright holder, they can add whatever extra condition and/or restriction they want on top of the license.
      The GPL has a section that says, as a recipient, derivative work author, or distributor, you can remove any extra condition (thus restoring the pristine GPL text), but you don't have to.
      It's the same legal principle as dual licensing.

    3. Re:Can they do that? by caseih · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you're the copyright holder you can license the code any way you like. You can take a standard license text and add clauses to it. Typically people say they are licensing the code under the GPL with some exception. For example, GCC is licensed under the GPLv2 or later, with the exception added that the code generated by the compiler (your compiled executable) is not licensed under the GPL.

      Of course you cannot take someone else's code that is under the GPL and add your own exceptions to the license without negotiating with the copyright holders.

      As to the RedHat's statement about people believing the GPLv2 as written implies immediate termination of the license in the event of a license violation, I belief that's just how the US copyright law functions. By default *no one* has any right to use code that is copyrighted by someone else, except as granted explicitly by license. When that license is breached, the default position under US copyright law is that you have no rights to the code.

      I support RedHat's proposal and I think it will generate some good will and ease some of the FUD that's out there.

    4. Re:Can they do that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As to the RedHat's statement about people believing the GPLv2 as written implies immediate termination of the license in the event of a license violation, I belief that's just how the US copyright law functions. By default *no one* has any right to use code that is copyrighted by someone else, except as granted explicitly by license. When that license is breached, the default position under US copyright law is that you have no rights to the code.

      That's false. US copyright law explicitly provides for "fair use" rights, and rights can also potentially be asserted under the 9th/10th Amendments (which make the Bill of Rights open-ended).

      The problem is that this puts you into very murky waters, legally speaking. The US legal profession has huge ethical conflicts of interest with respect to fair use rights, with respect to the role of contract in copyright, and with respect to recognizing the open-ended nature of the Bill of Rights.

      The net effect is that US legal professionals will often ignore these considerations, even though they have sworn oaths to do otherwise. It's not a conspiracy, any more than slavery or Jim Crow were the result of conspiracies - just the result of amoral people looking out for their own interest, and not caring in the least how much harm they do to society over the long term (exactly the same mind-set that allowed people to "justify" slavery in a nation founded to protect the "rights of man").

      So anybody actually expecting the government and the legal system to obey the law is putting themselves into a potentially very difficult situation.

      It costs millions of dollars and years of time to have a chance of getting a case before the Supreme Court, and they have a very poor track record when it comes to legal ethics issues. The history of US law shows this clearly and without any doubt.

      This result should not be surprising, the judges are appointed by politicians who little interest in rocking the legal ethics boat - the politicians have too much at risk because their conduct is often in violation of fundamental rights, and they also receive large campaign contributions from associations of legal professionals.

      Just as these judges once upheld slavery, and once upheld Jim Crow and "separate but not actually equal", today they uphold unethical practice of law on a scale never before seen in human history.

      It's a very corrupt system, and no responsible business executive will take a chance on this sort of thing. The best, least risky, least expensive option is to hire a lawyer to negotiate a license, even though it's not an ideal outcome, and one is in some sense rewarding the bad guys for being bad. It's a lot like making a payment to a criminal protection racket.

  9. Re:That's it... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 0

    Troll? Well, then, please answer this for me... If GPL3 is so easy to understand, why is the first link on the GPL3 page a link to "A Quick Guide to GPLv3?" https://www.gnu.org/licenses/g...

  10. No AGPL? Too bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No AGPL? Too bad. If you don't use that, might as well go with a business-friendly BSD/MIT/Apache/Perl license instead.

  11. Re:Nazi Leftists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Thank you, Vladimir. Your posts are inciteful as always.

  12. Re:That's it... by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

    My electric kettle comes with a 20 page instruction booklet. That doesn't make it hard to use. As much as anything it's about an organization covering it's ass with a FAQ.

    --
    The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
  13. Re: GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Without the gpl, shitheads like you wouldn't be working in this field, because source to everything would be closed.

  14. RE: Linux, Linus' opinion is irrelevant by allquixotic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Regarding Linux, Linus Torvalds' own opinion is completely irrelevant, unless you wanted to use an extremely antiquated, practically useless version of Linux from the 90s.

    The actual Linux kernel code is an incredible mish-mash of thousands of contributors' code, both companies and individuals. Each passing day brings more and more copyright owners into the Linux kernel, because each person retains copyright over their individual contributions, and each day brings at least one new kernel contributor.

    In order to change the copyright license of the current Linux source code, ALL of the contributors of the current version of Linux -- or their estate in case of deceased people, or the liquidator company in case of bankrupt companies -- would need to agree to the license change. Even assuming that every last contributor could be convinced to agree to change the license, there would still be logistical problems in actually contacting all of them. Deceased contributors probably have invalid email addresses on file, and likewise for contributors who sent in patches from a corporate email address and have since moved on. Just the task of contacting the legal copyright holder of every line of Linux source becomes a nearly futile task, even if you go back to a hideously old and putrid version like kernel 2.0 or 2.2.

    You might think that you could discombobulate some of the "long tail" of contributors by just removing any source lines (using a Git script) that were contributed by someone not in the top 100 contributors. If you did that, you might wonder, wouldn't that leave an almost-working kernel that the top 100 contributors could then carry forward with, fixing the little one-liners that drive-by patchers gave them here and there? And then you could surely hunt down a mere 100 contributors (or their estates) and change the license -- right? Well, no.

    Per this -- http://www.remword.com/kps_res... : there are 19,817 kernel contributors just since 2005 (and quite a few more before then, as Linux was indeed quite popular and noteworthy among engineers in, say, 2004; people even made a halfway decent desktop OS based on it by this time). Half the people -- 9912 to be exact -- contributed 2 or fewer patch sets, which only amounts to 1% of the total patch sets. If we assume that, on average, over a large dataset, any two patchsets are equally likely to be any given size regardless of contributor (which may or may not be a safe assumption), that still means that 1 out of every 100 lines of code in the Linux kernel would have to be independently re-written by someone else if we removed the long tail of copyright owners.

    And that would only reduce your total number of contributors by _half_; you'd still have 9000-some contributors who have 3 or more patchsets to their name. I wish that site would tell us what percentage of the codebase is contributed by, say, the last 15,000 people in the list of contributors sorted by number of patchsets. It would probably be something ridiculous like 20 or 30%, meaning that if you wanted to whittle down the number of copyright holders in the kernel to about 4000, you would have to re-write (independently, without peeking) about 1 in 5 lines of code on average. Eww.

    Not to mention that randomly removing lines of code (or small but important fixes) all over the codebase would create a mess that probably wouldn't compile, and once it did compile, it'd need to be heavily tested, debugged and fixed just to get it nominally working on modern hardware.

    So, yes, peoples' opinions about what the license of the Linux kernel "should be" are completely and totally irrelevant. We can't remove the code from a significant number of contributors to the kernel to whittle down the list, because doing so would spark a many-year project to get the kernel back to some semblance of what it is today. And we can't contact everyone and try to get everyone to agree to a license change, because you're probably going to be sim

  15. Re:But, but, but "your kind" always says... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, thank you Lennart, for more brilliance.

  16. Re: I'm more impressed w/... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was with ya until you started talking about yourself.

    You are nothing like those 2 guys. Nothing.

  17. Re: Comment vs. "SysAdmin" scriptkiddies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bro you've been using Windows your whole life.

    You literally just started using Linux 2 months ago. Stfu you poser. You even admitted in your posts you just started using Linux. Now all of a sudden Linux is the bees knees and we don't know what we are doing? Fuck off man, you are legit clueless.

  18. Re: GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What? GPL isn't the only open license.

  19. Re: That's it... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 0

    If a regular software/engineer/programmer can't read it and figure it out in a couple minutes, then it's rigged against you. Plain and simple.

    That's pretty much my thought on this. If a "quick guide" is needed to explain the legalese, then the legalese is, to use your words, rigged against me. The "quick guide" is not binding, the legalese is. So why have the quick guide there in the first place?

  20. LOL! Wrong talking out your ass... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My actual roots are from 1982 on DEC VAX into academia on VAX 1180 systems, Sun OS (UNIX), into IBM System 34/36/38 & OS/400 on their midranges, into DOS/Windows, 9x, NT based onward (with Linux in the mix all thru the 1992-current period) - so see subject, you are WRONG!

    * ... & even IF what you said is TRUE (it's not)?

    I'm ALREADY "UP & RUNNING" doing things on Linux folks already LIKE & USE https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12246780&cid=56810744/ but I made it even BETTER, faster & MORE efficient on Linux!

    APK

    P.S.=> Truth? I have a feeling my best work EVER will be done on Linux oddly (me, the poster child for Windows here for 15++ yrs.) - It's almost like my past noted above was just "stepping stones" for me trying THIS OS (once it was ready & imo, it is per (Where I outline my LINUX USAGE on/off for DECADES) https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12266042&cid=56829226/ )

    1. Re: LOL! Wrong talking out your ass... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Translation: APK is saying he still doesn't have anything useful to contribute. His software isn't a useful contribution. Neither are his posts. He knows this and it makes him insecure, causing him to lash out with rage.

  21. Re: RE: Linux, Linus' opinion is irrelevant by buchanmilne · · Score: 1

    "Regarding Linux, Linus Torvalds' own opinion is completely irrelevant"

    For the current code base, you are correct.

    However, for completely new contributions, his opinion does matter.

    Good luck trying to get a new feature or driver merged with a GPLv3 licence header in it ...

  22. Re: That's it... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

    Oh wow, someone has a thin skin. Disagreement != trolling, in spite of what the thin skinned GPL folk think.

  23. Re: Comment vs. "SysAdmin" scriptkiddies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try making a coherent post next time instead of that bullshit you just spewed out of your ass. What's the matter? Feeling inadequate because you've severely missed your own deadline to release a BSD version of your barely useful hosts file downloaded and sorter? Get the fuck off Slashdot.

  24. Re: CLOSER than "your kind" & you miss my poin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should write a program that prevents you from posting to Slashdot. Now that really would be useful.

  25. Re: I'm more impressed w/... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Retard spammer is still retarded.

  26. "or any later version" by raymorris · · Score: 1

    For new Red Hat code they produce, they can of course license it any way they like.

    For pre-existing GPLv2 code, a LOT of that code is licensed "GPL, v2 or any later version". Redhat can modify that and distribute it under the "or" option - any later version.

    Personally, I no longer trust Stallman enough to license my code "any later version". There's no telling what he'll put in GPLv4. Had he taken suggestions and either not pit the patent stuff in v3, or clarified that wording, I'd be comfortable with "any later version", assuming later versions would update and clarify the license, not make major changes to it.

    1. Re:"or any later version" by caseih · · Score: 1

      You're of course welcome to remove any clause from the GPL you wish. Linus Torvalds did just that when he licensed the kernel; the "or any later version" clause is removed. Hence the Linux kernel is stuck at GPLv2 forever, since it's not possible to even contact all of the copyright holders for any re-licensing. So the anti-Tivoization clauses in the GPLv3 can never be used by the kernel, for better or worse.

      That said, if it's your code you can license it to others anyway you want at any time, regardless of previous licensing. The "or later version" clause applies to the end user of the code, not to you. Stallman isn't forcing you to do anything. If it's someone else's code, well that's a different story; you don't have any rights to that code anyway without a license, which kind of makes your little rant nonsensical. If you don't like the GPLv4 don't use it. What derivative projects choose to do with your code (supposing it was under the later version clause) shouldn't affect you in any way. It certainly doesn't affect your code itself.

  27. Where yours in code that is & /.ers disagree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017

    (APK's work), I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon February 11 2016

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015

    I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015

    I do use APK's host file on all my systems at home by OrangeTide December 01 2017

    I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27 2017

    * Best part: Linux 64-bit model's faster/more efficient (does 2x the work in 1/2 the time)

    APK

    P.S.=> I'm not joking in this thread where I state that oddly my BEST work ever (of many platforms) will be on Linux - this is an "example thereof" that got even BETTER... apk

  28. Re: Ah, thank YOU mere menial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So says the loser in his mid 50s who is still living in his mom's basement.

  29. Re:That's it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why do you think you need to understand how the gpl deals with edge cases that likely have nothing to do with you. all you have to do to use the gpl is to give the users/buyers of your software all of the four freedoms. what is so hard about that?

  30. Re: Where yours in code that is & /.ers disagr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL, the same out of context quotes from comments that were mostly critical of you. More dishonesty from APK, completely unbecoming of someone who claims to be a security professional.

  31. A lot of us stick to GPLv2 (1991) by raymorris · · Score: 1

    A lot of GPL code, possibly most, is under GPLv2, which hasn't changed since 1991. Many projects, and many developers, didn't switch to v3.

    You can continue to use GPLv2 and not worry about any changes in the last 27 years.

    The meaning of GPLv2 is pretty simple. You could invent a borderline case, but it's not that complex. I'd be more than happy to answer any questions.

    It seems Stallman purposefully left the patent wording in v3 vague, so he could claim it meant one thing, while the wording leaves open a different meaning.

  32. Re: Dear UNIDENTIFIABLE ac Jealous "lil' JOWIE" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What stops you is that you're a fucktard who spends all of your time posting incoherent bullshit on Slashdot instead of doing something useful. You don't amount to anything and you never will.

  33. Re: Dear UNIDENTIFIABLE ac Jealous "lil' JOWIE" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reposting the same lies won't make them true.

  34. LOL! Wrong (projecting YOUR issues onto me) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL! Wrong (projecting YOUR issues onto me) - I've owned my own home for a decade++ but I am in my mid 50's (happens to us all that part).

    * I AGE LIKE WINE THOUGH, lol...

    (I.E. - Everything about me gets better, including my work e.g. https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256658&cid=56824676/ )

    APK

    P.S.=> I feel bad for you "Projectionist" (there's another sockpuppet name for you, it fits you perfectly) giving away YOUR OWN ISSUES as you always do... apk

    1. Re: LOL! Wrong (projecting YOUR issues onto me) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean to say that your mom has her home paid off and left it to you in her will so you wouldn't end up on the street. You're a loser who doesn't have a real job and spends all of his time writing poorly written programs that are almost useless and posting complete bullshit on internet forums.

  35. Re: Dear UNIDENTIFIABLE ac Jealous "lil' JOWIE" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK, you're a fat gay virgin. You can't code. You're in your 50s and apparently still live in your mom's basement.

  36. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY TO SHOW, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject (lol) & critical of ME not my work https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256658&cid=56824676/ that folks LIKE & USE here (100's of 1,000's worldwide do too) & it only got BETTER (lots) on Linux!

    * YOU WISH YOU WERE ME!

    (I'm not here to win a highschool popularity contest easily RIGGED by sockpuppet multiple account using do-nothing "ne'er-do-well" trolls - I'm HERE TO WIN & to do so, I don't even HAVE to TRY - you defeat YOURSELVES for me (see subject, lol)).

    APK

    P.S.=> That last BOLD part above's true because you not only STALK me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts as you are now (or tons of sockpuppets which strangely stopped as I've floored you under all of them probably, lol) BUT YOU ALSO IMPERSONATE ME, proving you WISH you were me, lol - thanks! You'll find out it's NOT easy being "World-Class" (like me)... apk

    1. Re: YOU DON'T HAVE ANY TO SHOW, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      World class person shouldn't spend 100% of his time spamming Slashdot from his mumzie's basement... aside from the dirty stuff he's doing on his mumzie's bed.

    2. Re: YOU DON'T HAVE ANY TO SHOW, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's right, in my field, I'm measured by peer-reviewed articles in scientific journals. I'm not in the business of peddling useless software on Slashdot. Unlike you, people actually use and cite my work.

  37. Is that YOUR plan, projecting AGAIN? LOL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject "Projectionist": Was never my Mom's home (hers is in Poland) & I paid for it. I can't end up on the street. I have skills I can show, you don't, lol!

    * HOWEVER, YOU, on the other hand? Well, lol - you know! Hahahahaha...

    APK

    P.S.=> Thanks for 1 thing here today though (despite you being an UNIDENTIFIABLE obviously MISERABLE INSIDE pest unhappy w/ yourself taking it out on others that are CONTENT w/ themselves doing WELL as I am on many fronts (Thank you Jesus/Grace of God)): Thanks for DEFEATING YOURSELF vs. me @ every SINGLE turn... lol! apk

    1. Re: Is that YOUR plan, projecting AGAIN? LOL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have fun roasting for all eternity in the lake of fire.

    2. Re: Is that YOUR plan, projecting AGAIN? LOL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Skills? Your only "skill" seems to be acting like an asshole on Slashdot.

    3. Re: Is that YOUR plan, projecting AGAIN? LOL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your mom lives in Poland because she finds you too embarrassing and doesn't want to be around you.

  38. Re: I'm more impressed w/... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, look, it's the same dumbfuck who was stalking Zontar The Mindless earlier today.

  39. Bug you I proved you = a "ne'er-do-well"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Obviously yes, lol & what I do folks like + use (see my last post for a link) & your "big accomplishment" = stalking me? Please!

    SEE SUBJECT AGAIN - YOU & your lazy do-nothing ass DID THAT TO YOURSELF by doing zero you can show for yourself others like & use as I can - hahahaha...

    * As far as "mommy's basement"?

    LMAO - weak, but projecting YOUR issues obviously onto me - THIS takes care of THAT with fact, easily https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12266686&cid=56834728/

    APK

    P.S.=> Again THANK YOU for letting me let YOU defeat yourself as always @ every turn vs. me (you make ME look GOOD & yourself? Well, everyone KNOWS you're the LOWEST of the low online (stalker))... apk

    1. Re: Bug you I proved you = a "ne'er-do-well"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I considered using your hosts file program. Then I saw what a liar and asshole you are on Slashdot. I realized I can't trust someone so dishonest with the security of my computer.

  40. Lots of "hotair blowhard talk": Prove it... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lots of "hotair blowhard talk": Prove it! It's all you have to do (doubt it) I know who you are stalker & then guess what happens. Stalking people is against the LAW "Jealous JOWIE" blowhard unidentifiable anonymous STALKER you are

    * Everyone here has SEEN the shenanigans in "peer review" amongst scientists & academia SO you're NOT saying much (in fact you're shitting on YOURSELF).

    Me?

    I have our /. PEERS speak well of MY work easily verifiable & I don't HIDE like you do (blowhard, liar I suspect)... you don't.

    APK

    P.S.=> I've decided you're an OBSESSED psychotic loon with DELUSIONS of grandeur (after all, all you are is TALK & HOT AIR)... apk

  41. Re: Lots of "hotair blowhard talk": Prove it... ap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your peers call your work small. Not small and useful, just small. Probably as in you haven't actually done much at all. You don't even create your own hosts files. You use other people's work.

  42. Yes, yes: U stalking me's not assholish? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, yes: Stalking me (as you do by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts) is not assholish, lol! Mine's only 1 of its kind of Linux/BSD in GUI so it's your loss & it's even BETTER than it was on Windows, which folks like & use (100's of 1,000's worldwide too) on /. even https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256658&cid=56824676/

    * So I'd rather be what I am (not an asshole) than a WEEZILLY STALKER true ASSHOLE psycho obsessed NUTJOB, like you... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> You know, you THINK you 'hate' guys like me - wrong: You hate your WASTED "ne'er-do-well DO NOTHING no SKILLS self (& deep down, you KNOW it + SHOW IT in every trolling stalking ac post you make my way - lol, I LOVE IT)... apk

  43. That's for you DEVILS, not I... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Keep wasting your life & time on idle hands is the devil's workshop STALKING me online - it's doing "wonders" (lol, not) for you (not, makes me look good vs. "your kind").

    * Funniest part is - you TRY "harass" & "stalk" me online to put YOUR already hellish misery "so-called life" and its DEVILS (envy, jealous, self-hatred of yourself) into me & FIND YOU CAN'T, lol...

    I just LAUGH @ your kind because I know I can do 1 thing that shuts your ass down - SHOW ME YOU'VE DONE BETTER & you can't, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Man, I can see you now, "BoiLiNg" in impotent (what you are, lmao) "RaGe" @ your own wasted life - I didn't do THAT to you, you did... apk

  44. No proof from you? "Gee, wonder WHY?" lol! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No proof from you? "Gee, wonder WHY?" (not) & OUR peers on /. speak well of my work (better on Linux) https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256658&cid=56824676/

    * I create between 250-5,000 a day on my own buddy, again you talk OUT YOUR ASS as you did here stupidly as usual https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12266686&cid=56834392/

    APK

    P.S.=> I can see you "RaGiNg" over there in BLOWHARD effete inadequacy for your HOTAIR you blew & can't backup... lol! Again, you did it to yourself STALKING me & wasting your time in your OBVIOUSLY WASTED LIFE... apk

  45. WTF? RoTfLmAo... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My Mom lives in Poland because she wanted to return home & could afford to do so after a long hard working class life (hardest worker I ever knew - a workaholic imo), & being decent.

    APK

    P.S.=> Now, YOUR MOTHER? Hehehehe, she lives in an ALLEYWAY w/ a HEROIN NEEDLE a mile long in her ASS (when a pimp's penis isn't in there already that is, lol)... apk

    1. Re: WTF? RoTfLmAo... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If your mother was a decent person, she wouldn't have raised a her son (you) to be such a shit stain. You and your mother are both complete and utter trash.

    2. Re: WTF? RoTfLmAo... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You stalk him as unidentifiable anonymous and say that? Your mother's a dopefiend whore in alleyways heroin needle or pimp cock up her ass and the result was you being shit out. You project you are a shitstain.

    3. Re: WTF? RoTfLmAo... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The above post was totally not from APK but was posted by that retarded asshole from arstechnica AlecStaar.

  46. Comment vs. "SysAdmin" scriptkiddies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see comments like yours QUITE a lot & KNOW your motives: Per Wayne & Garth in "Waynes World" (holding a UNIX book no less on Garth's part iirc) - "WE FEAR CHANGE" & why?

    Your "bastardizing things" via non-std. init scripts are in danger - your job security as standards like Poettering's systemd come into play!

    (... & it controls even failed daemons restarting - yes, yes, I know - you can use restart wrappers for that (again non-std. bastardization job security))

    BUT HOW MANY OF YOU ACTUALLY DO CODE YOURSELVES (not stitching others' programs together in batch) vs. using what others like myself in programmers CREATE for you "Seasoned SysAdmin" mere USERS WITH A BETTER PASSWORD (that's all you are) to merely USE?

    NOT the majority of you, period...

    (& that's why you FEAR things that are coming in GUI & things like systemd (& like it or not, GUI's the future (always is, or did DOS win over Windows & WHY DOES X/Wayland, GNome, KDE & xfce exist w/ GUI programs on them then? See what I just said, & I've seen it HAPPEN before as I noted))).

    * Guys like me are coming producing nice easy to use PRETTY GUI TOOLS like it or not!

    I know, I spent decades developing business enterprise systems of MILLIONS OF LINES of code each that run entire companies Fortune 500 down - 1 click easy, has to be, was what I was told to make so I did!

    Network tools reading from /proc abstractions are on the way out too - not as efficient (some new tools blow but WILL GET BETTER quickly due to using actual network interfaces DIRECT to API vs. reading output pipes as abstractions for data that I just noted too)!

    (... & it's what "Common Folks" PREFER, period, vs. shitty ugly argc/argv based commandline tools OR shitty tty term scripts stitched together from them vs. e.g. https://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12218352&cid=56765500/ )

    WHO KNOWS ALL THIS MOST & FAR BETTER THAN I? Mr. Linus Torvalds (hard working programmer, my kind of guy).

    He dictates HIS creations' future, not you.

    APK

    P.S.=> You "anti-systemd" & "tty term 'ScRyPt-KiDDieZ' mere USERS w/ a better password (& not much more) live in fear (I don't know why though - terminal work & batch scripting will ALWAYS have a place & so will DEEP DOWN config know-how server to endpoint workstations, mainly for large LAN/wAN configuration batchwork) - accept the future IS now & it's always inevitably coming... apk

  47. This is why Fuck Redhat since 7.3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Literally exactly what smart linux users thought when 8.0 came out. They went Microsoft.

    FTA -- "Other companies -- Microsoft -- have taken similar GPL positions... In its new position statement, Red Hat explained that the GPLv2 and LGPL, as written, has led to the belief that automatic license termination and copyright infringement claims can result from a single act of inadvertent non-compliance. "

    Get fucking fucked Redhat. Again.

    1. Re:This is why Fuck Redhat since 7.3 by ruir · · Score: 1

      I will never use GPL in any of the software I release.

    2. Re: This is why Fuck Redhat since 7.3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let this be a lesson to never reply to APK from your account rather than being an AC. He'll stalk you around and harass you. He accuses people of stalking him when they criticize his spamming, yet he's the person who actually stalks other people.

      Whipslash, if you're reading this, it's time for Slashdot to ban the three stooges from posting here:
      1) The idiot crapflooding every story about Trump and Hillary going to prison
      2) The troll who continues to harass and whine about creimer
      3) APK

      The quality of the discussions will improve dramatically just by taking out these three pieces of trash.

    3. Re:This is why Fuck Redhat since 7.3 by BrianMarshall · · Score: 1

      I like the MIT license. It gives people and businesses the freedom to use my stuff.

      --
      "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" -- HST
    4. Re: This is why Fuck Redhat since 7.3 by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Can't ban people who don't log in, which is why ac posting shouldn't exist. But it's probably too late to turn it off now, since this site is so unpopular compared to its heyday. It needs the posts.

      Don't be afraid to be stalked by APK. He has a pretty short attention span. If you stop saying his name he will go bother someone else.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    5. Re:This is why Fuck Redhat since 7.3 by exomondo · · Score: 1

      I like the MIT license. It gives people and businesses the freedom to use my stuff.

      I prefer it too because it allows people with different ideologies to collaborate, I'm giving it away to be used so I'm not going to impose restrictions on what you do with it or force your hand on how you license things you add to it. If you want to release your modifications that's great, if you only want to contribute some bits back that's cool, if not that's fine too.

  48. Jealous "lil' JOWIE" unidentifiable stalker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jealous "lil' JOWIE" unidentifiable stalker: What stops you like a bullet from a .45's me asking you show you did better than I & you CAN'T, lol!

    * EVERY SINGLE TIME, lmao...

    APK

    P.S.=> The CURE for "ne'er-do-well" hotair spewing BLOWHARDS like you is that & it works (a foreign concept to you that, work & SUCCESS from it, obviously)... apk

    1. Re:Jealous "lil' JOWIE" unidentifiable stalker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe you can tell us about your success that time you had your fucking stupid idea rejected by some other project.

  49. These quotes aren't lies, they're fact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017

    (APK's work), I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon February 11 2016

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015

    I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015

    I do use APK's host file on all my systems at home by OrangeTide December 01 2017

    I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27 2017

    * Best part: Linux 64-bit model's faster/more efficient (does 2x the work in 1/2 the time)

    APK

    P.S.=> See subject: Facts are what KILL "your kind" the do-nothing ZERO "ne'er-do-well" (JEALOUS "lil' JOWIE" (lol) always)... apk

  50. Re: Ah, thank YOU mere menial by ruir · · Score: 1

    Why the fuck are you wasting my time? SystemD being forced on all us is like someone coming and saying everyone know has to use lighthttpd and sendmail. Now please do have your bottle of milk and let the adults talk.

  51. You wish I was that - why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your software is just fine - well written, functional... I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine by mmell February 17, 2017

    (APK's work), I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon February 11 2016

    his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant August 10 2015

    his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg September 25 2015

    I like your host file system by Karmashock September 09 2015

    I do use APK's host file on all my systems at home by OrangeTide December 01 2017

    I personally use a HOSTS file blocker produced from a genius called APK by 110010001000 October 27 2017

    * Best part: Linux 64-bit model's faster/more efficient (does 2x the work in 1/2 the time)

    APK

    P.S.=> See subject: /. peers disagree w/ you & IF I was that? You'd want to get "StRaNgE" w/ me seeing as you STALK me so much... apk

  52. Other way around w/ proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Other way around w/ proof (what you "ne'er-do-wells" have none of for anything good in code you do) https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12266328&cid=56833306/ where as ALWAYS (since he's a JEALOUS "lil' JOWIE" (lol) do-nothing behind his FAKE NAME for his FAKE LIE of a "so-called 'life'") Zontar started w/ me & I exposed his insanity for it.

    Thanks for allowing me to do it again.

    * Is all you fools are capable of is LIES? Apparently so...

    APK

    P.S.=> That & STALKING me like freak loons - I pity you, I truly TRULY do since as above, your LIES & STALKING etc. lunacies are your undoing vs. me everytime - you help me defeat you by DEFEATING YOURSELVES @ every turn (do you know how PITIFUL you all look? Seriously)... apk

  53. Re:That's it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Troll? Well, then, please answer this for me... If GPL3 is so easy to understand

    It isn't that it's easy to understand.
    You were modded troll because you claimed its too complex to understand and so changed to the alternatives that not only don't address your complaint by being easier, but are also far more complex and in many cases quite literally impossible to understand.

    As you say, at least *A* lawyer can explain the GPL to you.

    One lawyer can not possibly explain a vague commercial license to you, because the licenses are written explicitly in a way to not explain the details.
    You need at least one lawyer working for you, and then need to pay for the time of the license writers lawyers to go over and negotiate each point in the license to agree if your intended usage is legal or not.

    What you did is the equivalent of claiming new cars these days are so complex and full of buttons and tech make them too difficult to learn to drive one, so your solution is to purchase a rocket ship from NASA and spend a decade in the air force learning to pilot one, while implying the latter is somehow far simpler.

    Either you are trolling, or if not then the only option left is that you have absolutely no knowledge of logic and reasoning.
    In either way such a statement as you made isn't wanted here and down-voting it is the natural outcome of that fact.

  54. Stalking me unidentifiable ac u say that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: You project you're a lying asshole + dishonest & disingenuous you false accuse ME of so please, grow up Jealous "Lil' Jowie"!

    * LMAO - You're just JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" the "ne'er-do-well" do-nothing ZERO who stalks ME on /. constantly w/ LIES by unidentifiable anonymous posts OR via tons of sockpuppets (which stopped - must mean I've burned you under ALL of them) or unjustifiably downmod bombs me via those sockpuppets (which I run you DRY of inevitably, your PUNY effete wannabe 'weapon' of slimy weezils) OR IMPERSONATES ME (proving you WISH you were me, lol).

    APK

    P.S.=> Your kind, JOWIE? Can't EVER the productive quality of me doing stuff like this https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256658&cid=56824676/ - you're waste of life & you KNOW it (you can't even stand behind your lies or words)...apk

  55. I love when you project YOUR inadequacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject (lol): I have no 'deadline'. When you do better than our peers saying this https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256658&cid=56822746/ THEN talk, Jealous "Lil' Jowie" you do-NOTHING zero "ne'er-do-well" forums troll that STALKS me by UNIDENTIFIABLE posts.

    * Hilarious - you with ZERO to show for yourself, LET ALONE SOMETHING BETTER than I've done, TRIES to "cut me down"? Ridiculous - that is what you are.

    APK

    P.S.=> Of course, you KNOW it about your wasted life self 'chatterbox' - It shows... apk

  56. Re: Comment vs. "SysAdmin" scriptkiddies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet another abusive spam post from this shit stain.

  57. Don't blame me pusscake MENIAL, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't blame me pusscake MENIAL: You're wasting your own time (you also project YOU are the child blaming others for YOUR fuckups) - man! You're TOO stupid so go have your milk bottle BOY & stfu already.

    * The bottom-line REAL deal is you MENIAL "SysAdmin" MORONS are AFRAID of systemd (even GUI apps) because that SUPERIOR standardization can SERIOUSLY IMPACT your MENIAL JOBS (sysadmins, lol - failures who CAN'T WRITE THEIR OWN CODE had to become YOUR "inferior kind" & you KNOW it - you're HELPLESS minus guys like me that WRITE THE CODE you MENIALS merely USE (user w/ a better password only is ALL you are, fact)).

    APK

    P.S.=> You are all in fear & it makes me laugh - I see RIGHT thru you, so does anyone else - you WANNABES that couldn't code to save your lives (unless you pinch others' OPENSores code OR write pussy scripts piping outputs from work GUYS LIKE ME CREATE for weezil menial deficients like YOU to merely USE, user))... apk

  58. Re: RE: Linux, Linus' opinion is irrelevant by allquixotic · · Score: 1

    Actually, due to the way copyright works, his opinion still doesn't matter for new drivers. Any new driver or component added to the Linux kernel source would be considered (necessarily) a derivative work of the Linux kernel, because it would directly reference and depend upon both the specification and the implementation of probably hundreds of internal Linux functions -- for memory management, data structures, algorithms, informing the kernel about the behavior of the driver, logging, etc. I've read a few actual copyright lawyers' publicly-released opinion about this stuff, and they all agree that because the GPL enforces its terms on anything else that's considered a derivative work of a GPL work, that code would necessarily also be under GPLv2.

    So, Linus could technically speaking accept a file or driver into the Linux source tree under some other license, but then Linus would be violating the copyright license of an untold number of other Linux copyright holders, whose code he is NOT entitled to re-license or to violate the GPLv2 license of those others' code by mixing it with non-GPLv2 code in violation of the "derivative works must stay GPLv2" clause of the GPLv2. Linus would potentially be on the hook for civil damages in the US at least, and he's living and working in California for a long time (probably long enough to be a naturalized citizen), so he'd most definitely be on the hook if he distributed that code to others.

    Someone who contributed one or two patches to the kernel would have a tough time convincing a judge that there's any actual copyright infringement, but someone like Greg-KH, Ingo Molnar, or pretty much any Intel, Google, Red Hat or Microsoft (yes, Microsoft) employee who contributes to the codebase, would have probably touched enough internal APIs by now that certainly they'd have a claim on something that a non-trivial module would need to use. And there are a few contributors (past and current) who very vigorously believe in a "strict" interpretation of the GPLv2 and would actually be militant about enforcing their own copyright in the kernel code.

  59. Aw! "Poo' Lil' JEALOUS 'Jowie'" hahahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aw! "Poo' Lil' JEALOUS 'Jowie'" hahahaha - I ran you dry of modpoints, you can't bury my posts yet (too far away) & truth got ya obviously, lol!

    It's not MY fault you're REDUCED (all you've ever known is being SMASHED DOWN I suppose) to STALKING me by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts "Lil' Jowie" (lol) & wish you were me (obviously w/ all the times you IMPERSONATED me too proving that) creating things even our /. PEERS like & USE https://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12256658&cid=56824676/

    You KNOW: What "your kind" in LIMITED MENIAL "Seasons SysAdmins" (i.e. helpless henrys minus coders like me to build them what they use as USERS only w/ a better password) can't manage

    &

    FAILED @ relegating yourselves to MENIAL positions as "script kiddies", lol!

    * ... "Lil' Jowie", lmao!

    APK

    P.S.=> TRUER WORDS were NEVER SPOKEN on /. (& you all JUMPING like fleas dancing to my TUNE OF TRUTH proves that too)... apk

  60. Re:That's it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in many cases quite literally impossible to understand.

    Can you give some examples of licenses that are "literally impossible" to understand?

    One lawyer can not possibly explain a vague commercial license to you, because the licenses are written explicitly in a way to not explain the details.

    Can you provide some examples of these licenses?

    Either you are trolling, or if not then the only option left is that you have absolutely no knowledge of logic and reasoning.

    Well you certainly haven't provided a particularly compelling argument thus far, of course you can do so providing evidence of your claims.

  61. Re: Ah, thank YOU mere menial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Systemd is not forced upon you, there are plenty of distributions that do not have systemd. Your idea that you should be able to take somebody's work while they are be beholden to doing their work your way is enslavement of the worst kind! If you don't want systemd then choose a distribution that does not have it, maintain a distribution that does not have it or fund developers to maintain a distribution that doesn't have it.

    Nobody is interested in the bitching and whining of freeloaders.

  62. Re:GPL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BSD gives the author less control than GPL

    Tens of thousands of people make money everyday writing GPL code. All the large software and hardware companies hire people to write Linux kernel code. That must mean it is unprofitable.

    numbnuts

  63. What "scriptkiddieware" is THAT bigmouth? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I slapped your cretin level littleboy mentality piehole shut projectionist https://slashdot.org/comments.... what software is that of yours and yours only I wonder?

    * THAT I WANT TO SEE & THAT @ LEAST THAT OUR /. PEERS LIKE & USE IT as I can prove easily (along w/ 100's of 1,000's worldwide) / - come on bigmouth... let's see proof of that from you.

    APK

    P.S.=> WHY now do I get the FEELING "best ya got" might be a Python SCRIPTKIDDIE script or WebDouche app? Show me a REAL executable - you do that? I'd have some respect for you @ least - I have none NOW after I destroyed your dimwit lowbrow bullshit in that link above, easily (cretins are always EASILY dispatched - especially LOUDMOUTHS with no backup - but, fairly, prove otherwise as I ask above - you do that, I take this back in fairness & will respect you)... apk

    1. Re: What "scriptkiddieware" is THAT bigmouth? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And now you're stalking ruir.

    2. Re:What "scriptkiddieware" is THAT bigmouth? apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Python is the #1 language of AI and the web which means it's the big dog.
      "Big dogs eat. Crying puppies stay on the porch."
      - Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson

    3. Re: What "scriptkiddieware" is THAT bigmouth? apk by ruir · · Score: 1

      You are only stalked when you pay them the attention they do not deserve...or read their comments actually.

  64. Re: RE: Linux, Linus' opinion is irrelevant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is why you shouldn't try and restrict freedom, it's just horrendously complicated now. Either it is free or it's not...not free but with restrictions. And its not like somebody can make a free work non-free, they can create a non-free derivative of it but that doesnt make the original non-free or take away anybody's freedom (interestingly the copyleft camp shares the RIAA/MPAA view of the ability to take away something that was never granted in the first place).

    This freedom but with restrictions depending on the version of the license and how you interpret the wording of those restrictions on your freedom is just nonsense.

  65. Not @ all but he attacked me 1st... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: I posted my response to it in what you replied to & I ask a FAIR question of him - you? STALK ME by unidentifiable anonymous JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" (rotflmao - it fits you SO well).

    APK

    P.S.=> RoTfLmAO @ U, "Lil' Jowie" & how easily I got you & "your kind" TO DANCE to the MUSIC I played of PURE TRUTH of "your kind" (not-men DO-NOTHING "ne'er-do-well" like you that can't STAND THEMSELVES & try play 'bully' online stalking others DOING WELL like myself & you hate yourselves for being wastes - it's SO apparent of "your kind" & your "ReAcTiOnZ" today vs. me w/ you FAILING constantly, lol))... apk

    1. Re: Not @ all but he attacked me 1st... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More stalking from APK... shocking...

  66. LMAO: "Help me MOMMY" whipdouche... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Says it all - I was attacked by ruir & STALKED by YOU endlessly & you can't handle it - you sure 'dish it out' wannabe bully but I kicked your ass @ every turn... lol, & you KNOW it!

    * PUSSY boy see subject - it's YOU, lmao!

    (It's not MY fault you're a DO-NOTHING zero "ne'er-do-well" STALKING ME BY UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts doing nothing of value (BUT I DO even /.ers like & use https://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12266444&cid=56833376/ & "your kind" the NOTMEN don't, lol) I can sweep the floor with @ any level easily - you make it SO EASY for me to do since you DEFEAT YOURSELF, lol...)

    APK

    P.S.=> What does JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" Howl? See subject: "HELP ME MOMMY", *snicker*... apk

    1. Re: LMAO: "Help me MOMMY" whipdouche... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wasn't talking to you, stalker.

    2. Re: LMAO: "Help me MOMMY" whipdouche... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You stalk him constantly in this article today and in many articles on slashdot for months now by your anonymous posts hypocrite.

    3. Re: LMAO: "Help me MOMMY" whipdouche... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently shit for brains AlecStaar from arstechnica also stalks APK only to come to his defense when his ass is getting beaten hard.

  67. Hypocrite UNIDENTIFIABLE "help me mommy" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hypocrite UNIDENTIFIABLE "help me mommy" https://news.slashdot.org/comm... HE CAN'T HELP - I embarassed him more than a YEAR AGO trying (he's a webmaster & fears my Hosts engine & so does his LARGEST BRIBER Google, lol - that's SO apparent).

    * By the way - ANYONE can see you UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous stalking me here, downmodbombing me (till I RUN YOU DRY of your PUNY single effete 'weapon' vs. me, lol) & STALKING me endlessly & IF NOT IMPERSONATING ME TONS LATELY TOO (proves you WISH you were me) - why?

    I use TRUTH of you HIDING is why - you used to use sockpuppets galore until I TECHNICALLY FLOORED YOU UNDER ALL OF THEM over the years, lol, easily - you're undereducated UNSKILLED Jealous "Lil' JOWIES" as I call you as you are them is why!

    You CAN BET everyone on /. is LAUGHING @ you with what I say & they see WHY you hide from me - you can't BULLY me or DOWNMOD me away, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Aw, poo' lil' JEALOUS Jowie... help me mommy, lol... apk

    1. Re: Hypocrite UNIDENTIFIABLE "help me mommy" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Technically inept stalker APK is technically inept and a stalker.

    2. Re: Hypocrite UNIDENTIFIABLE "help me mommy" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's shown he does more technically than you as I read this. Others like his work. I don't see them saying that about an anonymous stalker in you.

    3. Re: Hypocrite UNIDENTIFIABLE "help me mommy" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is that asshole retard from arstechnica AlecStaar posting here again.

  68. Re: Dear UNIDENTIFIABLE ac Jealous "lil' JOWIE" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But, Mr. Gump.... You're still retarded.

  69. CLOSER than "your kind" & you miss my point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & assuming you're a scriptkiddie "SysAdmin" who uses work guys like me make folks LIKE & USE https://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12252144&cid=56816704/ which is MUCH CLOSER to them work output wise than "SysAdmin ScRyPt-KiDDiEz" are, that's certain... lol!

    * What I meant on BEING LIKE THEM (not in terms of OS creation, I do user level applications for the MOST important folks, the users) WAS like them BOTH, I don't take SHIT from the SCUMBAGS around here using FAKE NAMES for their FAKE LIES of "so-called" LIVES!

    Ones who DOWNMOD BOMB ME unjustifiably (this thread's proof of 100's of times that happens when I shut fools down), IMPERSONATE ME, or STALK ME by UNIDENTIFIABLE ANOYMOUS trollings.

    Yes, they're Losers. JEALOUS "lil' JOWIE" lazy "ne'er-do-well" DO NOTHING losers, lol... & they KNOW it + prove it constantly!

    (The sockpuppeteering can't stand behind their own words rigging the "downmoderation system" that way gaming it (CHEATING), & creating NOTHING since they're mere USERS w/ a better password "admins" or just "ne'er-do-well" LAZY do-nothing CHATTERING dolts TYPES!)

    APK

    P.S.=> I am GLAD You were with me but you MISSED MY POINT - I never said I make OS but I DO MAKE THINGS & contribute - heck - I just got ON Linux & am UP & RUNNING doing things folks already LIKE & USE (but better on Linux no less) https://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12252144&cid=56816704/ - how about you?

    In fact, I have a feeling my best work EVER will be done on Linux oddly (me, the poster child for Windows here for 15++ yrs.).

    Consider it INSPIRATION to try do the same - the MORE of you that do that (which is my goal here to put a fire under your asses that way) the BETTER it wlll be... apk

  70. Don't put words in Linus' mouth by davecb · · Score: 1

    He might well agree with RH: do ask him if he approves of the clause, and if he'd recommend to other Linux contributors. I'm sure he'll tell you if he disapproves (;-))

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  71. The distinction between "OR any" vs "AND every" by raymorris · · Score: 2

    > You're of course welcome to remove any clause from the GPL you wish. Linus Torvalds did just that when he licensed the kernel; the "or any later version" clause is removed.

    https://www.gnu.org/licenses/o...

    You may NOT modify the license and still call it GPL, nor use the GPL preamble.

    If you grep the license, the GPL.org copy,
    ( https://www.gnu.org/licenses/o... )
    you'll see there IS no "or any later version" grant in the license. Nothing was removed. Rather, you'll find that suggestion as an option after "END OF TERMS AND CONDITIONS", under "How to Apply These Terms to Your New Programs". It's a suggestion on how one can use the license, and is not part of the license itself.

    What does appear in the license (10) is an explanation of what if means IF a program specifies "or any later version":
    --
    If the Program specifies a version number of this License which applies to it and "any later version", you have the option of following the terms and conditions either of that version or of any later version published by the Free Software Foundation.
    --

    Note first the first word "if". If the author choose to grant "or any later", the license says that means "either that version, or any later". Either, or. As in programming, in law "or" means something very different from "and". It does not mean "comply with this version AND every later version".
      You can choose to follow v2 OR v3, you aren't required to comply with the combined conditions of every later version ever produced.

    So if you re-distribute some of our code that's "GPLv2 or any later version", you may follow v2, or you may follow v3, at your option. You can choose to follow both. The GPL FAQ explains this as well:

    https://www.gnu.org/licenses/o...
    --
      When a program says âoeVersion 2 of the GPL or any later versionâ, users will always be permitted to use it, and even change it, according to the terms of GPL version 2â"even after later versions of the GPL are available
    --

    When it says "v2 or later ... permitted to use it, and even change it, according to the terms of GPL version 2", that means they have to follow all of the conditions of GPLv2, and there are no other conditions. They may elect v2 and ignore any other versions. One of the conditions of GPLv2 is that if you distribute a modified copy, you must distribute it under GPLv2.

    So for any software under "GPLv2 or later", you can choose to accept the v2 license, and distribute your modified version under the v2 license. You need not follow a version you don't even know exists, and need not distribute your changes under later versions. You must put your modifications under the same license you're using to allow you to distribute it - which can be v2 OR something else.

  72. Re: RE: Linux, Linus' opinion is irrelevant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean proprietary drivers. The kernel is chuck full of drivers maintained by kernel devs and Torvalds does have a say in those.

    The drivers included with the kernel greatly outnumber proprietary drivers.

    numbnuts

  73. PS - designed to obsolete old versions by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Here's a little additional information on how Stillman intends the "or any later version" mechanism to be used. It provides a method to slowly obsolete an old version of the license in case a major problem comes up.

    Suppose version 1.0 of some software was distributed under "version 1 or later" of the GPL. Many people contribute. Some people leave the project and new people join. The new people can keep distributing the old contributions, if they follow GPLv1 OR any later version. Suppose there is a court case that potentially affects GPLv1 and a new GPLv2 license is needed, with section 7 added (the liberty or death clause).

      The current members of the project can choose the "or any later version" option for new versions of the software. "Any version later than v1" of course means the same thing as "version 2 or later". The project has successfully upgraded from "version 1 or later" to "version 2 or later", simply by choosing the "or later" part of the "or".

    Of course, the lawsuit isn't hypothetical, GPLv2 isn't hypothetical, and we really did add section 7. Projects did in fact switch to "v2 or later" using exactly this mechanism.

    This would not have been possible if the language was "v1and every later version". It's the option of selecting either or that made the migration to v2 possible.

  74. Re: Ah, thank YOU mere menial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Systemd is not forced upon you

    I really hate all the childish bashing here, but I have to strongly disagree with you. I am not the decision maker. My company is forcing RedHat / CentOS on me, and soon I will be forced to "upgrade" to 7 with systemd. Of course I'm sending resumes, but too many other jobs use systemd distros too. It's like anything overly automated: it is fine when it works, but when something goes wrong, it's much more difficult to diagnose and fix.

  75. Re: Ah, thank YOU mere menial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So if it's that bad how is it you aren't able to convince the decision makers of this? It's your choice to work in this industry with the one tool so it certainly isn't forced upon you.

  76. Re:No AGPL? Too bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How are licenses like BSD business friendly?

    Oh you mean it allows businesses to take the code and give nothing back.

    Nothing friendly about that numbnuts.

    AGPL simply closes the loophole where companies use GPL software on their servers and thus don't distribute it.

    You are really fucking stupid.

  77. Re: RE: Linux, Linus' opinion is irrelevant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This thread has gone far afield from what is actually happening.
    The report says "All new Red Hat-initiated open-source projects that use the GNU General Public License (GPLv2) or GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL) v2.1 licenses" This means if Red Hat employees create a new open source project, say "Fedora for Watches", and it uses the GPL, then it will use GPL3. That's got nothing to do with the Kernel.
    The Kernel is an existing open source project that Linus retains final authority over. If you don't get your code into his tree, then it's just your own fork, not a part of the released linux kernel. He also controls the license for the released kernels and has said he's not going to v3. He is the one reviewing code to make sure it up to par before dropping it in to the newest kernels.

  78. You may add permissions, not restrictions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The GPL forbids additional restrictions on the recipient, but allows the copyright holder to grant additional permissions. A common example is dual-licensing.

    It's sort of a non-issue, because as a matter of practical business risk, the threshold to get sued over GPL non-compliance is pretty clear (too damn high IMHO), and anyone who tried to sue over the sort of brief and already-corrected noncompliance this exception covers would be universally condemned.

  79. Re: Linux, Linus' opinion is irrelevant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm reading your post, and I'm thinking wow! Just look at that effort. Tens of thousands of people came together and contributed to a piece of software. If that is not total and absolute victory (that will be shown in the long run) of Open/Libre source, I don't know what is.

    (oh, I'm sorry, you were talking about licensing and shit? Yea, don't care. I'm too much in awe with how great open source is, to be even remotely bothered by lawyering)

  80. Python = created in C++ the BIGGER dog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Python was written in C++ which is a MUCH BIGGER FASTER BETTER MORE CAPABLE DOG (1 of 2 of my personal favs, the other being Object Pascal) w/out which there would be no Python...

    * I write Python too though - but it's limited vs. C++ &/or Object Pascal, bigtime...

    APK

    P.S.=> It's a good "glue" language but anything "interpreted" means it's SLOWER crutches for folks who can't handle or rather, yet work w/ pointers & direct memory access or allocation level control among other things (not that that is "so bad", I was a user of VB in its day for professional purposes also & it fits that "mold")... apk

  81. Re: RE: Linux, Linus' opinion is irrelevant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A contributor could change the license for any part of the linux kernel written by them and not derived from others' work on the kernel. The body of work thus defined is probably most extensive for Linus Torvalds. Thus, Linus could decide to change the license on *his* sections of the code. Such a move would cause quite the legal snafu.

  82. Delusions of Grandeur JEALOUS "lil' Jowie"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & I ran you DRY of "downmodpoints" you abuse. You act like you OWN /.! Clue: You don't & don't own me but I PWN you constantly... lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Especially here https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12266686&cid=56834620/ where you can't show a DAMN THING for yourself but I can with even our /. PEERS liking & using it (+ it got BETTER still on Linux (pats self on back))... apk

  83. I'm more impressed w/ ... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Men like Linus Torvalds OR Theo DeRaadt who speak their mind/heart honestly + accomplish good things too - FAR more respect for them vs. FAKE NAME for FAKE LIES of so-called "LIVES" online (know anyone like that?) who play "Politically Correct" (the province of disingenuous SLIMEBAG "weezilz").

    * Linus T. & Linux speaks for itself - DeRaadt is much the same also - HOW ABOUT YOU (& "your kind", the NOT-MEN wannabe JEALOUS "lil' JOWIES") by comparison ?

    (See you DOWNMOD HID this last 4x I posted it https://news.slashdot.org/comm... & https://news.slashdot.org/comm... + https://news.slashdot.org/comm... plus https://news.slashdot.org/comm... so that tells me you are left speechless as I knew you would be vs. that question...)

    APK

    P.S.=> I know more than a few of you don't LIKE me (& I don't care) personally (you don't really know me either & I am NOT here to win your "highschool popularity contest" EASILY RIGGED by an easily cheated by sockpuppet so-called "DOWNmoderation" system) SINCE I am JUST LIKE THEM w/ the trolls around here (many by multiple sockpuppets which yes, I have proof of) OR those that STALK ME by UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous posts - but like those guys? I do things folks LIKE & USE (your kind doesn't) https://it.slashdot.org/commen... ... apk

  84. But, but, but "your kind" always says... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... "LINUX IS NOT UNIX" (though it clearly IS a form of it called "Unix like") or "Android is NOT Linux" - hypocrite BS, since it surely isn't a MacOS X/BSD or NT based OS core on Android!

    You always "play word games" WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT for you to switch horses in midstream you ALWAYS do (as it suits you).

    * THIS IS ESPECIALLY FOR YOU https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    APK

    P.S.=> Hypocrites - UNSKILLED hypocrites I might add @ that... apk

  85. Ah, thank YOU mere menial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: Menial user w/ a better password & nothing more! You make THIS fact from me (& you KNOW it) https://news.slashdot.org/comm...

    * REMEMBER KIDS: When the "mere users w/ a better password" who FEAR systemd & GUI (the inevitable future) say "Linux is NOT UNIX" they change their TUNE when it suits them (making it possible for guys like ME that make the CODE they merely USE but do NOT create themselves to cut them to pieces for their HYPOCRITE BULLSHIT (minus us they're helpless henrys, lol))

    APK

    P.S.=> JUST the way they say ANDROID IS NOT LINUX (it is, a MAC stripped model, since NO QUESTIONS ASKED it's not a BSD/MacOS X or NT core in it, but a Linux core)... apk

  86. Unidentifiable anonymous stalker stalks me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unidentifiable anonymous stalker stalks me - STILL, in your wasted "ne'er-do-well" DO-NOTHING life lol - Grow up JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie", ok?

    * Seriously!

    APK

    P.S.=> The FUNNIEST part is gweihir https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12241254&cid=56799484/ (who you FOOLS tried to impersonate to get me & him hassling one another but I saw thru it & burnt you, lol, as always) told me the other day he doesn't feel INTERESTING enough to have FULL TIME STALKERS - it's not that I'm INTERESTING - It's that I hit you FREAKS & LOSERS back w/ truth that gets you to REACT dancing on MY puppet strings, easily (lol)... apk

  87. Unidentifiable anonymous stalker stalks me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unidentifiable anonymous stalker stalks me - STILL, in your wasted "ne'er-do-well" DO-NOTHING life lol - Grow up JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie"!

    * Seriously...

    APK

    P.S.=> FUNNIEST part is gweihir https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12241254&cid=56799484/ (who you FOOLS tried to impersonate to get me & him hassling one another but I saw thru it & burnt you, lol, as always) told me the other day he doesn't feel INTERESTING enough to have FULL TIME STALKERS - it's not that I'm INTERESTING - It's that I hit you FREAKS & LOSERS back w/ truth that gets you to REACT dancing on MY puppet strings, easily (lol)... apk

  88. Yet Drinkypoo says I am RIGHT about hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "you're right about hosts files" - by drinkypoo (153816) on Thursday May 26, @01:21PM (#36252958) - My goodness look @ that drinkypoo!

    * LMAO!

    (You FOOLS can't make it look like I stalk you WHEN EVERYONE SEES YOU STALK ME BY Unidentifiable ANONYMOUS posts & STILL I DESTROY YOU with ease!)

    Short attention span? I don't need to pay attention to you LONG @ ALL to DESTROY you, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> ... in YOUR case, drinkypoo, WITH YOUR OWN WORDS saying I am right as rain on hosts... apk

    1. Re:Yet Drinkypoo says I am RIGHT about hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like to take dicks and coke cans up my ass. APK P.S. => I am Tim Cook's bitch.

  89. Re: RE: Linux, Linus' opinion is irrelevant by amorsen · · Score: 1

    You can easily reason your way to "all drivers or components must be GPL", but sometimes you have to look at what you can actually get away with. The fact is that lots of phone manufacturers distribute Linux kernels + proprietary extensions, in binary form. No one sues them, and it is unclear whether such a lawsuit would be successful, despite the rather obvious and easy-to-understand language of the GPLv2.

    Similarly, you can reason that Linus Torvalds couldn't relicense Linux to anything other than GPLv2. In practice, we don't know until Linus attempts to do so and someone manages to stop him by winning in court. He has already made two major clarifications/changes (depending on how you look at them) with the declaration that userspace isn't derivative and with the whole EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL invention. Note that some developers have publicly stated that as far as they're concerned, EXPORT_SYMBOL is the same as EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL -- yet no one has (correct me if I'm wrong) been sued for making a derivative module that only touched EXPORT_SYMBOL and avoided EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL.

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    Finally! A year of moderation! Ready for 2019?
  90. Re:I'm more impressed w/ ... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And APK continues to cry like the little bitch baby he is when his spam and shitposting gets rightfully downmodded. He keeps telling the same lies over and over again because he has been trying to convince himself that they are true.

  91. Re:That's it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Brainfuck has to have a license that is impossible to understand or that language is an epic fail.

  92. Re: Ah, thank YOU mere menial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So accept shitty systemdick or leave the industry?

    That is the sort of "thinking" that brought us this bullshit.

    numbnuts

  93. Bah! ArseHOLETechnica? I crushed 'em by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Arstechnica = losers who stalked me (as you do now anonymously unidentifiably) to NTCompatible.com & Windows IT Pro magazine forums to their public dismay in Jeremy Reimer & Jay Little + Jarrett DeAngelis (who posts here on /. until I drove his ass off too) when their websites were REMOVED by their hosting providers in Shaw Canada & CrystalTech (for both email harassing me caught on a tracking ticket + stalking me & posting lies about me on them AFTER I destroyed them both PUBLICLY @ Windows IT Pro on Exchange Servers memory being freed UNHALTING them (which tells you Exchange is HEAVILY POINTER ORIENTED linked list driven, which leads to memory fragmentation that CAN halt a serverware)).

    Jay Little the "self-proclaimed 'EXCHANGE EXPERT'" HAD TO CONCEDE IT from MICROSOFT'S OWN DOCUMENTATION proving it FOR me there (where they as usual stalked me AS YOU ARE NOW AS YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THOSE IDIOTS TOO ) & they can't "ban me" ANYMORE than I can be "banned" here on /. - as nothing stops ME, but me!

    I just left their site after a VERY BRIEF visit in 2001 (finding they are UNDEREDUCATED DO-NOTHING LAZY WANNABE "Fake it Till you Make It" types - shams & "ne'er-do-wells").

    APK

    P.S.=> Obviously YOU are 1 of the ArseHOLE useless dildos so see above & "Read 'em & WEEP" bitch, lol - you lost & ALWAYS lose to me... apk

  94. Bwaahahaha: ArseHOLETechnica? I dusted 'em by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Arstechnica = losers who stalked me (as you do now anonymously unidentifiably) to NTCompatible.com & Windows IT Pro magazine forums to their public dismay in Jeremy Reimer & Jay Little + Jarrett DeAngelis (who posts here on /. until I drove his ass off too) when their websites were REMOVED by their hosting providers in Shaw Canada & CrystalTech (for both email harassing me caught on a tracking ticket + stalking me & posting lies about me on them AFTER I destroyed them both PUBLICLY @ Windows IT Pro on Exchange Servers memory being freed UNHALTING them (which tells you Exchange is HEAVILY POINTER ORIENTED linked list driven, which leads to memory fragmentation that CAN halt a serverware)).

    Jay Little the "self-proclaimed 'EXCHANGE EXPERT'" HAD TO CONCEDE IT from MICROSOFT'S OWN DOCUMENTATION proving it FOR me there (where they as usual stalked me AS YOU ARE NOW AS YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THOSE IDIOTS TOO ) & they can't "ban me" ANYMORE than I can be "banned" here on /. - as nothing stops ME, but me!

    I just left their site after a VERY BRIEF visit in 2001 (finding they are UNDEREDUCATED DO-NOTHING LAZY WANNABE "Fake it Till you Make It" types - shams & "ne'er-do-wells").

    APK

    P.S.=> Obviously YOU are 1 of the ArseHOLE useless dildos so see above & "Read 'em & WEEP" bitch, lol - you lost, & ALWAYS lose to me... apk

  95. LMAO: I dusted ArseHOLETechnica easily by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Arstechnica = losers who stalked me (as you do now anonymously unidentifiably) to NTCompatible.com & Windows IT Pro magazine forums to their public dismay in Jeremy Reimer & Jay Little + Jarrett DeAngelis (who posts here on /. until I drove his ass off too) when their websites were REMOVED by their hosting providers in Shaw Canada & CrystalTech (for both email harassing me caught on a tracking ticket + stalking me & posting lies about me on them AFTER I destroyed them both PUBLICLY @ Windows IT Pro on Exchange Servers memory being freed UNHALTING them (which tells you Exchange is HEAVILY POINTER ORIENTED linked list driven, which leads to memory fragmentation that CAN halt a serverware)).

    Jay Little the "self-proclaimed 'EXCHANGE EXPERT'" HAD TO CONCEDE IT from MICROSOFT'S OWN DOCUMENTATION proving it FOR me there (where they as usual stalked me AS YOU ARE NOW AS YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THOSE IDIOTS TOO ) & they can't "ban me" ANYMORE than I can be "banned" here on /. - as nothing stops ME, but me!

    I just left their site after a VERY BRIEF visit in 2001 (finding they are UNDEREDUCATED DO-NOTHING LAZY WANNABE "Fake it Till you Make It" types - shams & "ne'er-do-wells").

    APK

    P.S.=> Obviously YOU're 1 of the ArseHOLE useless dildos so see above & "Read 'em & WEEP" bitch, lol - you lost & ALWAYS lose to me... apk

  96. LMAO - You're a REJECT period (w/ no project) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LMAO - You're a REJECT period (w/ no project) - prove otherwise: You know, the 1 thing that stops YOU faster than a bullet from a .45!

    * Suddenly DOUCHEBAG stalker of mine gets a case of "Cat got 'Jowie"'s tongue" or he'll try DEFLECT answer OR proving a thing, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> Come on now JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" anonymous UNIDENTIFIABLE stalker of mine - Can't you show us even 1 thing that was ANY good that OTHERS (especially our /. peers) like & use + speak well of (as I can easily)? Hell no, lmao... apk

  97. LOL! You JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" are projecting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie" you're projecting you do nothing but lie & I'm not bitching: I'm LOL @ U + "your kind" in UNIDENTIFIABLE ac stalkers of me who are ZEROS in life do-NOTHING "ne'er-do-wells" like you!

    APK

    P.S.=> Makes me RoTfLmAo @ U (& you can bet so does anyone normal unlike YOU deficient INFERIOR one) everytime I call you what you are - JEALOUS "Lil' Jowie", hahahaha... apk

  98. Re:Delusions of Grandeur JEALOUS "lil' Jowie"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And in an attempt to prove that APK isn't a retarded spammer he decides to continue to spam the same retarded shit several times.

  99. JEALOUS "lil' Jowie" Khyber my STALKER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Khyber my "unidentifiable" (not) STALKER: Did I RUN YOU DRY of your effete ABUSED 'downmodpoints' again https://news.slashdot.org/comm... ?

    * How's THAT for 'spam' boy? Truth - nothing LIKE it (& it's ALL ABOUT YOU, & you did it to YOURSELF, not I).

    APK

    P.S.=> Alex McCLOWN the 10 lb. MULTIPLE FELON whimp TOTAL f'ing loser - everything & ANYTHING that COULD be wrong w/ a guy? IS "Khyber" (Fake name DELUSIONAL phantasyland name online too, gosh)... apk

  100. But that bit at the end is wrong. by Thad+Boyd · · Score: 1

    ZDNet points out that the move to new licenses "doesn't apply, of course, to Linux itself. Linus Torvalds has made it abundantly clear that Linux has been, will now, and always shall be under the GPLv2."

    While it's true that the Linux kernel is sticking with the GPLv2, Torvalds and many of the other copyright holders have already adopted the GPLv3's cure commitment language.

  101. Re: RE: Linux, Linus' opinion is irrelevant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    they can create a non-free derivative of it

    That's fine, as long as you don't distribute it. Otherwise, use something else to base your work on.

    This freedom but with restrictions depending on the version of the license and how you interpret the wording of those restrictions on your freedom is just nonsense.

    What's nonsense is that statement of yours. Given reality, it is obviously wrong.

    Look, it's really simple: If you don't like the license, then don't use the software for whatever purpose it is you wish to use it for that is contrary to the license.