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George Lucas's Terrible Idea for Star Wars Episodes 7-9 (indiewire.com)
In an interview with James Cameron, George Lucas reveals what he'd planed for the final three Star Wars films:
"[The next three 'Star Wars' films] were going to get into a microbiotic world," he told Cameron. "There's this world of creatures that operate differently than we do. I call them the Whills. And the Whills are the ones who actually control the universe. They feed off the Force...." In terms of his storytelling, Lucas regarded individuals as "vehicles for the Whills to travel around in... And the conduit is the midi-chlorians. The midi-chlorians are the ones that communicate with the Whills. The Whills, in a general sense, they are the Force."
Lucas is confident that had he kept his company, the Whills-focused films "would have been done. Of course, a lot of the fans would have hated it, just like they did 'Phantom Menace' and everything, but at least the whole story from beginning to end would be told."
Lucas acknowledges in the interview that "Everybody hated it in 'Phantom Menace' [when] we started talking about midi-chlorians," prompting one Ars Technica editor to add "Because it was a really dumb idea." He speculates that if the final three Star Wars movies followed Lucas's original plan, "Imagine, if you can, our heroes shrinking down like the Fantastic Voyage to go meet some midi-chlorians."
Knowing Lucas's plans for the franchise "should make every Star Wars fan send a note of gratitude to whoever at Disney decided to buy the franchise and take it away and out from under Lucas' control."
Lucas is confident that had he kept his company, the Whills-focused films "would have been done. Of course, a lot of the fans would have hated it, just like they did 'Phantom Menace' and everything, but at least the whole story from beginning to end would be told."
Lucas acknowledges in the interview that "Everybody hated it in 'Phantom Menace' [when] we started talking about midi-chlorians," prompting one Ars Technica editor to add "Because it was a really dumb idea." He speculates that if the final three Star Wars movies followed Lucas's original plan, "Imagine, if you can, our heroes shrinking down like the Fantastic Voyage to go meet some midi-chlorians."
Knowing Lucas's plans for the franchise "should make every Star Wars fan send a note of gratitude to whoever at Disney decided to buy the franchise and take it away and out from under Lucas' control."
The first two were made with passion. The rest are chasing dollars and it shows.
The problem with 'social justice' is that it's a total misnomer. It's not social; it's anti-social. It's also not justice; it's injustice. That's why sane people find 'social justice' to be so unappealing: sane people don't support anti-social injustice.
The Star Wars saga has always been about getting its universe to a state of real justice, to the betterment of its societies. That's why 'social justice' is so incompatible with the Star Wars saga. You can't mesh the anti-social injustice of 'social justice' with the actual justice and the improvement of society that is so fundamental to the Star Wars stories.
subtle dig at the boring natural of the new movies, or just bad editing...
Everything since then has been total crap.
It's dumb in the same way the ending to Mass Effect 3 was dumb - introducing new elements into the storyline, right at the end, and shoehorning them in as some great answer to the conflict you created, without actually resolving the conflicts themselves - just dissolving them behind this lame new scrappy-do thought you just had.
The question is though... why did they commit the same error several times over with the NEW sequels also? Turning the tables upside down over and over, never actually explaining the philosophies, but just shaming any previous understanding and flippantly killing characters for drama. The premadonna Mary Sue character suddenly inventing lightspeed warfare, out of all the galaxy. Malus ex machina at every turn.
Listen - I understand that Star Wars isn't high cinema. I know it comes inspired from cheesy serial films, and pulpy hammy sci-fi hero stories. But for a film series worth THAT many billions of dollars, you'd think they'd at least want to hold to the odd integrity of the characters at least a little.
But for some reason, every writer that picks up the series wants to mind-swap the characters with some passion play for their favorite philosophical idea - make Luke and Han REALLY be talking about economic theory, or transcendence or whatever.
I definitely empathize with Mark Hamill leaving the role in open disgust. There were an endless number of ways any of this could have played out - it's just annoying to never see any sense of the original characters playing out, just their image used as crude tools to give a feeling, then switch message.
That's kind of how things roll out in big business though. Those that best posturing about being able to produce a thing are usually going to outmaneuver those that have a better plan, but are posturing less.
That's show business.
Ryan Fenton
Which is why after they separate everything Star Wars goes to shit. Lucas is a hack, an needed someone to control him and give him direction. Without it what you get is Jedi onward: garbage.
Oh dear. And here you are, all out of tissue. Not to worry, I'm sure they can patch you up in your next cognitive therapy session.
I dunno - It really is a different tack, with Disney expounding on Lando's pansexuality. i mean, whatever two consenting adults do is cool, but I really can't get into a character that wants too have sex with my little girl or my mailbox or my lawnmower.
Disney trying to branch off into where characters want to stick their pecker or fig is an annoying and irrelevant side trip that wrecks their story line.
Mostly because it turns the movies into clumsy propaganda pieces. "The Last Jedi" was exactly that Apparently Solo wasn't actually too bad, but in the aftermath of TLJ, Kennedy et al told the old fans they were not needed, and called them misogynists. and other derogatory names.So it tanked
Perhaps when dealing with people who give you their discretionary money for entertainment, you shouldn't tell them you don't need them. https://screenrant.com/star-wa...
And make no mistake - The Last Jedi has a specific third wave feminst agenda "Offers the harsh condemnation of mansplaining we need in 2017" https://www.vanityfair.com/hol...
No problem if you want to make political films catering to third wave feminists. But so far, they are happy that the films are becoming openly misandryic. But t appears the ladies they now consider their target audience neither watch the films, nor do they buy the promotional mechandise.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
People are happy when they leave the dentist's chair.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
I'm tired of people saying this would've been horrible. Bad ideas are turned into good stories just as easily as good ideas are turned into bad stories. Hppens all the time. It's all about the writing & ability to make something enjoyable. A good director and screenwriter can make any idea work for a large audience. Personally I would like to have seen how this would've played out. Would've taken Star Wars in a fresh new direction, even if it didn't seem like Star Wars. Couldn't have been worse than The Last Jedi.