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Apple To Unveil High-End AirPods, Over-Ear Headphones For 2019 (bloomberg.com)

According to a new report from Bloomberg's Mark Gurman and Debby Wu, Apple is "planning higher-end AirPods, a new HomePod and studio-quality over-ear headphones for as early as next year." From the report: The Cupertino, California-based company is working on new AirPods with noise-cancellation and water resistance, the people said. Apple is trying to increase the range that AirPods can work away from an iPhone or iPad, one of the people said. You won't be swimming in them though: The water resistance is mainly to protect against rain and perspiration, the people said. Slated for 2019, the earbuds will likely cost more than the existing $159 pair, and that could push Apple to segment the product line like it does with iPhones, one of the people said. Apple is also working on a wireless charging case that's compatible with the upcoming AirPower charger.

There are over-ear headphones coming from Apple, too. Those will compete with pricey models from Bose Corp. and Sennheiser. They will use Apple branding and be a higher-end alternative to the company's Beats line. Apple originally intended to introduce the headphones by the end of 2018, but has faced development challenges, and is now targeting a launch as early as next year, the people said.
A previous Bloomberg report was plugged, teasing a new version of the current AirPods that will feature a new chip and support for hands-free Siri activation. They are reportedly launching later this year.

82 comments

  1. Over-Ear Headphones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know there's a running joke that Apple is 5 years behind the curve, but Jesus Christ.

    1. Re:Over-Ear Headphones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Rumor is that they make 128k mp3s sound as good as a 78 RPM record as long as you hold them right. A steal at $5400.00 each.

    2. Re:Over-Ear Headphones? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      I know there's a running joke that Apple is 5 years behind the curve, but Jesus Christ.

      This is actually the configuration I've been waiting for. Earbud type devices won't stay in my old hairy ears.

    3. Re:Over-Ear Headphones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I take it I'm the only one here who likes over the ear headphones?

      Admittedly, I also like open back ones... so no noise cancellation, no waterproofing, no nothing. Honestly, if you like high end sound, give Grado a try. They aren't for everyone, but I pretty much never looked back after my first pair. They are honestly great headphones. Though if your first thought to over the ear is "5 years behind the curve", they probably aren't for you.

    4. Re:Over-Ear Headphones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh but im sure the hasn't stopped you from buying a few pairs of the airpods because "apple apple apple"

    5. Re:Over-Ear Headphones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know there's a running joke that Apple is 5 years behind the curve, but Jesus Christ.

      Exactly, everybody knows Android invented over-ears 6 years ago.

    6. Re:Over-Ear Headphones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the Apple apologist way, when Apple comes out with one-size-fits-all earbuds it's the best thing ever, when Apple realizes that one size doesn't fit all and releases a more a diverse product range that's the best thing ever. When Apple introduced magsafe that was the best thing ever and critical because light laptops could be pulled off tables and the apologists hail it as innovation, then Apple removes magsafe and safe and says you don't need and the apologists praise their 'courage'.

      Apple could literally release the iShitOnAStick for $10,000, insist it is a terrible product that nobody in their right mind should buy and the apologists would defend it.

      The same thing happened with the Mac Pro, multiple times, Apple themselves have admitted they've screwed up with the Mac Pro and the apologists continue defending them and actually disagreeing with what Apple themselves say.

  2. Slashdot Rumors by WankerWeasel · · Score: 2, Informative

    When did Slashdot became an Apple rumors site? The Bloomberg folks mentioned have poor track records of being correct in their claims.

    1. Re:Slashdot Rumors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When did Slashdot became an Apple rumors site? The Bloomberg folks mentioned have poor track records of being correct in their claims.

      You must me new here.

    2. Re:Slashdot Rumors by TimHunter · · Score: 1

      This is one of the twice-daily Apple posts /. supplies so that Apple haters can take turns trying to out-do each other in slandering Apple product users and shouting about how much they hate Apple products. If /. doesn't supply them then the Apple-hating crowd have to go to Reddit to hate on Apple users.

    3. Re:Slashdot Rumors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awww wherever would the rest of us be without the ever present apple worshipper to tell us how apple "just works" or "isnt first but does it right" or "thats how lithium batteries work" or whatever bullshit PR talk apple is pushing these days.

    4. Re:Slashdot Rumors by Jason1729 · · Score: 2

      It's not slander if it;'s true.

    5. Re:Slashdot Rumors by jenningsthecat · · Score: 1

      This is one of the twice-daily Apple posts /. supplies so that Apple haters can take turns trying to out-do each other in slandering Apple product users and shouting about how much they hate Apple products. If /. doesn't supply them then the Apple-hating crowd have to go to Reddit to hate on Apple users.

      Best laugh I've had in may days - thanks for that!

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    6. Re:Slashdot Rumors by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 1

      For years, Gurman was the ONLY guy that got things consistently correct. Then came Ming-Chi Kuo, and he's been the gold standard for the last couple years now. But Gurman's track record is pretty solid; I'd largely give him the benefit of the doubt.

  3. Headline should say for $2019 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And let's face it Apple zealots would still queue to buy it at that price

  4. 24-bit audio?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When?

    1. Re:24-bit audio?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you want 24-bit audio? All that does is raise the already overly generous dynamic range of 16-bit audio from 96dB to 144dB. You won't be able to tell the difference, all you'll be doing is making your audio quieter. Even the most complex classical pieces can be accurately covered in a dynamic range of 60dB or less.

    2. Re:24-bit audio?? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Indeed. The problem isn't the limits of 16-bit. The problem is the loudness war.

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  5. TruÃ(TM)mpÃ(TM) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He Ã(TM)wilÃ(TM)l kilÃ(TM)l uÃ(TM)s alÃ(TM)lÃ(TM) and Ã(TM)start worldÃ(TM) Ã(TM)wÃ(TM)aÃ(TM)r iii.

    1. Re:TruÃ(TM)mpÃ(TM) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ^cock in mouth disease^

  6. true wisdom and real madness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "There are many things which make me deeply uncomfortable about this film Jacob's Ladder. First and foremost I would say that during my mercifully brief period of what might either be termed Kundalini enlightenment, Luciferian consciousness, or psychosis, I was seeking to understand what was happening to me and why reality itself has suddenly become very very weird indeed and the only references I seemed able to find to explain what was happening to me were Vanilla Sky and Jacobs' Ladder.

    I seemed to be suffering from hallucinations, the people I lived with seemed to be acting very strangely and were unaccountable harsh, just like Jake's and David Aames' girlfriend from both films, and it seemed that there were messages everywhere around me and somehow there was a deeper hidden meaning to everything I saw. The experience was genuine and was something like a cross between true wisdom and real madness. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference, especially as most of our planet are still stuck in Plato's cave. The final message of the films was that you are either dead, or that this 'reality' is false and that the hallucinations you may be experiencing are the result of a false reality breaking down around you."

  7. "High-End" vs. "highly compressed signal" by ffkom · · Score: 1

    Given the audible shortcomings of the very lossy codecs used by wireless headphones today, I don't see how such could be called "High-End". Maybe because you need to get High on drugs to End the pain from hearing compression artefacts and temporary reception outages?

    1. Re:"High-End" vs. "highly compressed signal" by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      In the same sense anything from Apple is called "high-end". Apple's definition of high-end is completely compromised performance, horrible functionality. But it's **Apple** cool and sleek..

    2. Re:"High-End" vs. "highly compressed signal" by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      Given the audible shortcomings of the very lossy codecs used by wireless headphones today,

      Firstly calling modern wireless codecs as "very" lossy doesn't do them justice. They are an order of magnitude better than the MP3s of the past. Apple devices will happily stream 250kbps AAC. Don't get me wrong the Airpods aren't high end but that's because they sound like shit not because they use a poor compression algorithm.

      Now outside of the Apple world people are happily using aptxHD over bluetooth and you can tell it apart from being plugged in via cable quite easily. Wait what did I just make a typo? No, get yourself a high-end set of headphones and an aptx HD phone and the headphone+aptxHD+builtinDAC combination will happily blow away anything you can plug into your phone's headphone socket. Not that this is relevant discussing Apple devices for many reasons.

       

    3. Re:"High-End" vs. "highly compressed signal" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, get yourself a high-end set of headphones and an aptx HD phone and the headphone+aptxHD+builtinDAC combination will happily blow away anything you can plug into your phone's headphone socket.

      *cough*bullshit*cough*

      My headphones support both wired and wireless mode with aptX and there is a noticeable quality drop when in wireless mode. The difference is amplified even more if I'm streaming already lossily compressed audio since it then becomes double lossy compressed. I think you're using low quality headphones if you don't hear the difference.

    4. Re:"High-End" vs. "highly compressed signal" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ^this^ and most of the stuff that they make now is well, shit sir, like the cpu throttle in the pro mac haha pro lol

    5. Re:"High-End" vs. "highly compressed signal" by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Just because there is loss of quality on headphones due to wireless signal doesn't mean they can't be high quality. A lot of the point of having good headphones is having a good reproduction based on the signal they get. If they have good frequency response and good dynamic range then they can still be worth a lot of money. Sure, they'll never sound as good as a pair of similar quality wired headphones, but they offer other advantages. The only question is whether or not they'll include the option of going wired like just about every other pair of wireless over ear headphones out there. If they don't, it's definitely not even worth considering buying these.

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    6. Re: "High-End" vs. "highly compressed signal" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      aptX-HD is an improvement over aptX even if the gp maybe exaggerating somewhat. The main advantage of aptX is that it has low latency, a side effect of the fact it is based on pre MP3 compression technology dating back to the 1980s. Audiophiles sometimes get excited about the fact that it isn't using "psycho-acoustic" factors in its compression, as that has been associated in their heads with the same sort of audio distortion that having speaker wires without single directional oxygen free copper crystals gives you.

    7. Re:"High-End" vs. "highly compressed signal" by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Sure, they'll never sound as good as a pair of similar quality wired headphones

      You didn't read through to the end of my post did you? Given constraints on the source material we are going after with a wireless device (mobile phones), a decent quality wireless set of headphones can often sound *better* than their wired counterparts. Mobile phones aren't exactly the pinnacle of our audio reproduction technology. They may not hold up against a high quality DAC+ amplifier combination, but since we're talking about wireless it's safe to assume you're not playing music through that.

  8. REAL APPLE/REAL HEAPHONES? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Count me in for one MILLION DOLLARS!

      Wha? No? one BILLION DOLLARS!

  9. Apple or the Sharper Image? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lovingly hand crafted of the hightest grade AAA 99.91% fine balonium by Tibetan exiles in the deepest valleys of Nepal. There the precious deep valley Himalayan balonium is mined and lovingly birchwood smelted to provide the sonic presence that has not been experienced since the earliest days of Monster Cable,. And unbelievable as it man seem, these earbuds exceed that benchmark standard by upping the ante to provide a nuanced sound stage unequaled on this or any other planet. Too good to be true? You decide!

    1. Re:Apple or the Sharper Image? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Your post sounds like a derivative of the Crunchy Frog ad.

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  10. Over the ear headphones from Apple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bought a pair of Beats once. The sound quality was not as bad as the audiophools claim, but the build quality was worse. Broke after less than 6 months of daily use. Won't be buying again.

    1. Re:Over the ear headphones from Apple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What did you do with the weights they add so that the headphones appear to be a quality product?

      Might have been the only valuable part left...

    2. Re:Over the ear headphones from Apple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beats headphones are a rip-off. They cost too much, are poorly built (mostly plastic), have mediocre sound quality and small soundstage. Comparing them directly to my V-Modas (Crossfade II and M-100), they are a joke in every possible metric.

    3. Re:Over the ear headphones from Apple? by Falos · · Score: 1

      Shhhhhhhhhushhhshhshhushh. Shush. "High end."

    4. Re:Over the ear headphones from Apple? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I should follow up with a couple of recommendations.

      If you're willing to spend $200-$300 or so, then you can't get better then V-Moda headphones. They sound better and are more durable than most headphones that cost a lot more.

      If you just want a decent pair of headphones on the cheap, you can pick up a pair of Behringer HPX2000s for about $20. They are very plasticy, but they are fairly durable and sound quality rival most other headphones in the $100 range.

      Bose and Sennheisers are middling. Beats are a poor value. Street and Sync by 50 Cent are a poor value. All of those $1000+ designer headphones are a complete rip-off.

  11. Lol. What great innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    from the highly worshipped apple corp.

  12. Sheep will line up by p51d007 · · Score: 0

    Just to get that apple logo on an overpriced set of headphones.

  13. Re:Any bets on price? I say $299. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's there in the title. People will totally pay $2019 to have big, shiny, Apple logos highly visible on their head.

  14. W3 chip? by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

    Will the inevitable W3 chip they brag about have more computing power than their current mac mini? I can't wait to hear Timmy and the stooges brag about desktop performance in their headphones.

    1. Re:W3 chip? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      The Mac mini? You mean the Mac that hasn't been updated since 2012?

      That's a computer that's six years old, which makes me wonder why Tim Cook went on stage and said that people using five years old computers was "sad". He's an iPad-centric hypocrite.

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    2. Re:W3 chip? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was Phil Schiller but I'm pretty being a hypocrite is a requirement to work at apple.

    3. Re:W3 chip? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tim didn't make that statement, it was Phil.

      That said, I rarely saw the executive team use Macs in their day to day activities, it was all phones and tablets. I say that as somebody that used to work at Apple (1988-1992 and 1998-2015) and would interact with senior management often.

  15. Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headphone by goombah99 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When they announced the homepod (then delayed it) I though, "oh brother, they are so far behind in the personal blue tooth speaker market".

    Boy was I wrong. Homepod is the biggest advance in audio reproduction technology is 50 years.

    Seriously, all other consumer grade speakers are stereos that don't properly account for room geometry, the fact that sound disperses differently depending on frequency, nor do they have compensation of non-linear effect.

    uop until the homepod every bit of effort was in making speakers that were more phase linear and could maintain that across large amplidude difference and frequency mixes. that is they were pefecting the transducers. But that does nothing to actually reproduce the holographic nature of a real sound field. emitting sound from 2 points can never ever reproduce the 3-sound field. It fails to account for the different dispersion of different frequencies. On top of that room reflections and absorptions modulate the sound field in frequency dependent ways that are un acounted for.

    The homepood is far from done but it's self monitoring phased array can accounbt for this, and it's computational processing can dynamically adjust to non-linearitys and produce soundfields more structured than a steropair can-- all from a single can.

    it will only get better but this is the watershed moment when audio replication technology for consumers changed.

    I have no idea what they are planning. They already have Beats headphones so why they want to re-invent that makes no sense. On the otherhand perhaps they are going to introduce directional sound fields into headphones (they wont be the first, but chances are their audio processing technology will be more sophisticated).

    I would bet they will make them so that when you tilt your head or face different directions the sound field changes so that it's like you are turning in a real sound field. Great for video games. Machine gun fire would stay in the right spatial position no matter which way you turn. You could tell the difference between a helicopter flying over in front of you or behind you.

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  16. For $2019? by kiviQr · · Score: 2

    Fixed that for you: "Apple To Unveil High-End AirPods, Over-Ear Headphones For $2,019 "

  17. Re:Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Assuming what you've stated here is fact, can you help explain one thing? If the homepod is really that phenomenal and holds a half-century of advancement inside, why in the hell are audiophiles not going fucking apeshit over it?

    Either every audiophile in the world is ignorantly dismissive of the sound technology here, or you're pounding Apple-flavored kool-aid shots with the rest of the fanbois. Which is it?

  18. Re:Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headph by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

    My 2016 LG base-model TV can configure itself to the room geometry, as heard by the microphone in the remote. It optimises the sound so it is best where you are actually sitting.
    I'm pretty sure the older ones did that too.

    The summary says it all about Beats though, they want a higher-end price point product above their high-end Beats branded products.

  19. Before ya know it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple's gonna be sellin' inflatable bra-pods (with woofers), chota-boy voodoo dolls, & dildos-in-a-box (yeah, the ones with the hand crank on the side).

  20. Re: Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    He's pounding something, but I don't think its koolaid shots

  21. Noise cancellation? by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Cupertino, California-based company is working on new AirPods with noise-cancellation and water resistance. There are over-ear headphones coming from Apple, too. Those will compete with pricey models from Bose Corp. and Sennheiser.

    Let's assume their headphones will also have noise cancellation, the real question is - will their noise-cancelling headphones be better than Bose? You may not like the Bose audio quality but they are the king of noise cancellation.

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    1. Re:Noise cancellation? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Earbuds don't need active noise cancellation, they can just create a seal inside the ear canal that blocks almost all external noise.

      I have some AKH Y50BTs that again have no active cancellation but create a really good seal just sitting on the ears. I have tried Bose and had some Audio Technica active noise cancelling over-ear cans but the AKGs are both quieter and more comfortable for wearing long term on a plane.

      Libratone make earbuds with adjustable noise cancellation. They don't actively cancel noise, they just block it as outlined above, and have a microphone that mixes external sound back in at an adjustable level.

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    2. Re:Noise cancellation? by mjwx · · Score: 1

      The Cupertino, California-based company is working on new AirPods with noise-cancellation and water resistance. There are over-ear headphones coming from Apple, too. Those will compete with pricey models from Bose Corp. and Sennheiser.

      Let's assume their headphones will also have noise cancellation, the real question is - will their noise-cancelling headphones be better than Bose? You may not like the Bose audio quality but they are the king of noise cancellation.

      Assuming that they'll have active noise cancellation is a pretty bad assumption to make. At best they'll have passive noise cancellation and cost as much as the Bose QC with far worse sound quality (and Bose QC's aren't the best, by far not the worst but you're definitely not buying them for accurate reproduction).

      Honestly, expect better sound quality and noise cancellation from a pair of £30 over ear Senns.

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  22. Re:Any bets on price? I say $299. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

    At $299 for headphones they would be in the same price range as some Bose and Sennheiser headphones. The Bose QuietComfort 25 aren't cheap. Let's just see if Apple can at least equal Bose in the active noise cancellation department.

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  23. Re:Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headph by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    I did not say it was good. I'm saying as an electrical engineer it really is a breakthrough in concept that have gone unaddressed. It's a whole new direction of physical acoustic principles that are now available. Will it be a success? I certainly haven't bought one!

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  24. Re: Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headp by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    Nobody take any chance, just in case. Don't drink the koolaid shots!

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  25. Re:Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headph by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    Single microphone equalization is not remotely the same thing as spatial sound shaping.

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  26. Re:Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As an electrical engineer you aren't qualified to talk about audio gear.

  27. Make real shit. by cyn1c77 · · Score: 2

    Come on Apple.

    How about a new Mac Pro and Mac Mini? And adding the headphone jacks back into your products?

    Just because you bought Beats, we don't all need $200 headphones.

    We certainly don't need them in place of not refreshing your stagnant computer lineup.

    1. Re:Make real shit. by Idimmu+Xul · · Score: 1

      > Just because you bought Beats, we don't all need $200 headphones.

      We especially don't need $200 headphones that sound like $20 headphones!

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  28. Re:Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Assuming what you've stated here is fact, can you help explain one thing? If the homepod is really that phenomenal and holds a half-century of advancement inside, why in the hell are audiophiles not going fucking apeshit over it?

    Either every audiophile in the world is ignorantly dismissive of the sound technology here, or you're pounding Apple-flavored kool-aid shots with the rest of the fanbois. Which is it?

    One of the most important skills of an audiophile, is to seperate fact from PR fiction.
    Apple "HiFi" is Beats audio and Beats audio have never been and will never be anything but PR fiction.

    Beats audio is just a very cheap chinese noname audio gear of a very low quality with a very high price and a fictional PR story about some famoust guy that likes cheap chinese audio gear and therefore wants everybody to pretend that it is high end.

    This fits Apple and their devices like a glove, that is why Apple had to buy a worthless (except for its PR value among the braindead) brand like Beats audio,

    Audiophiles want real high quality audio. There IS a difference between a very cheap set of chinese headphones and a set of high quality headphones.
    Apple / Beats is low quality. Audiophiles don't like expensive low quality with a PR story.. they want high quality and they don't buy stuff JUST because it is expensive, they buy stuff because it is high quality, that often means a high price tag.

    Apple wants everybody to buy cheap stuff with a high price tag and some BS PR, so they can maintain their EXTREME profit margins.

    He IS a raving Apple fanboi, there can be no other explanation.

  29. Re:Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I did not say it was good. I'm saying as an electrical engineer it really is a breakthrough in concept that have gone unaddressed. It's a whole new direction of physical acoustic principles that are now available. Will it be a success? I certainly haven't bought one!

    You ARE aware that Apple's whole buisness concept is to sell polished crap at extreme prices right?

  30. Re:Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headph by thegarbz · · Score: 1

    Seriously, all other consumer grade speakers are stereos that don't properly account for room geometry, the fact that sound disperses differently depending on frequency, nor do they have compensation of non-linear effect.

    So what you're saying is you haven't shopped for a sound system in the past 10 years. Gotchya.

  31. The poeple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're here.

  32. Re:Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are zero search results for "spatial sound shaping". It's a term you just fabricated.

    The Homepod isn't stereo, so it's not even as good as a cheap boombox.

  33. Re:Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Both. Self-described audiophiles are generally full of shit, but that doesn't necessarily mean the homepod is great.

  34. Re:Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headph by Joce640k · · Score: 1

    I did not say it was good.

    You said it was " the biggest advance in audio reproduction technology is(sic) 50 years"

    Key word: "advance"

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  35. Re:Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now this story sounds more like the truth. Thank you.

  36. Re:Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headph by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    Google Home does that too, and the Max (similar price bracket to the HomePod) is generally thought to have similarly excellent sound quality.

    Google Home has a few advantages too:

    - Line in
    - USB
    - Off switch for the microphone
    - Removable power lead
    - Google Assistant isn't a lobotomized version like Homepod Siri is
    - Works with all phones

    The actual tech for adjusting to the room geometry has been around for a while in some high end home cinema stuff. HomePod has a slight advantage in that it is omnidirectional (the standard Google Home is too, but not the Max), although that's less useful than it first appears because due to needing power it will end up in a corner or against a wall anyway.

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  37. Re: Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Interesting that the PR video shows a pair of Sennheiser HD1s. Why not a pair of Beats Audio?

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  39. Re:Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And your point is that you don't know the difference between advance and good?

  40. Re: Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headp by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

    Interesting that the PR video shows a pair of Sennheiser HD1s. Why not a pair of Beats Audio?

    Hunh? The "PR-Video" is a report from Bloomberg, and it shows a a pair of Sennheisers because that is what the report says Apple's will compete with just when that pair of Sennheisers is shown.

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  41. Re:Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When they announced the homepod (then delayed it) I though, "oh brother, they are so far behind in the personal blue tooth speaker market".

    Boy was I wrong. Homepod is the biggest advance in audio reproduction technology is 50 years.

    Seriously, all other consumer grade speakers are stereos that don't properly account for room geometry, the fact that sound disperses differently depending on frequency, nor do they have compensation of non-linear effect.

    uop until the homepod [...]

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  42. Re:Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headph by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

    They already have Beats headphones so why they want to re-invent that makes no sense.

    Well, perhaps they actually want some over the ear headphone that actually sound worth a shit....something with more of the full spectrum presented in a pleasing manner, rather than just a bad overly strong base signal.

    Beats are pretty lousy.....

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  43. Bluetooth isn't a replacement by globaljustin · · Score: 2

    Just came here to say that "just get bluetooth" isn't a solution and that (though better than M$) Apple is behaving foolishly with their whole "the future has no ports!" design philosophy.

    Apple should've never gotten rid of the 1/8 jack. It's a universal audio AND data port that is backwards compatible with tech 100 years old. Samsung has proven you can make a waterproof phone with a 1/8 jack. /rant

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  44. Re: Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When he uses the word advance he is stating they are better than any of their competition.

    He said they are 50 years advanced in tech. 50 years advanced in tech. I'll say it one more time. He said they are 50 years...you get it.

    So, if they are 50 years ahead, and they still aren't any good? I don't know, you tell me.

  45. Re: Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL. He's right.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=spacial+sound+shaping&t=iphone&ia=about

    Goombah pulling tech buzzwords that don't exist out of his ass. Nothing new.

  46. Re:Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headph by Harvey+Manfrenjenson · · Score: 1

    I'm not an acoustical engineer, but I seriously wonder whether you can "compensate for room geometry" in any meaningful sense just by adding a bit of digital processing. You can notch the EQ to compensate for the resonant frequencies of the room itself, any competent sound guy can do that, but I'm not sure what else you can do. There's a reason that studio owners spend thousands, or sometimes tens of thousands, on room treatments.

  47. Re:Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headph by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

    You can do things like adding a small amount of delay to speakers firing in one direction to compensate for the sound having to travel further before it reflects off a wall, for example. That prevents ringing and unwanted reverb.

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  48. Re: Homepod and spatial oriented sound field headp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think there is some bad red rope licorice around too.

    Repeat, stay away from the red rope licorice!