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Colorado Lawmakers Want To Make It a Felony To Fly a Drone Over a Wildfire (thedrive.com)

Several Colorado lawmakers are trying to urge Congress to pass a bill that would make flying unmanned aerial vehicles over wildfires a felony, citing safety concerns. The Drive reports: On Wednesday, Senators Cory Gardner (R-Colorado), Michael Bennet (D-Colorado), and Representative Scott Tipton (R-Colorado) introduced the Securing Airspace For Emergency Responders Act, which would fine people for flying UAVs over wildfires without authorization, and potentially send them to jail for a year. "When an unauthorized drone flies over a wildfire, it poses a huge threat to aircraft working to suppress the fire and forces them to ground," said Tipton in a statement. Steve Hall, a spokesman for Colorado's office of the U.S. Bureau of Land Management, staunchly echoed that sentiment, claiming that firefighters face enough of a challenge navigating smoky and turbulent conditions while piloting firefighting aircraft, that adding rogue drones to the mix would only increase danger and hamper their efforts. On top of that, Hall explained that once an unauthorized drone is observed during a wildfire, firefighters ground their planes. The Denver Post first reported the news (paywalled).

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  1. Re:this should be a misdemeanor by dwillden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When it causes aircraft trying to fight a fire to crash yes. Or when those same aircraft have to waive off of drop runs because of a drone, letting a fire break free of lines, possibly entrapping fire crews or citizens on the ground?

    A potential Felony is proper. I would hope they would start off with a heavy fine but repeat violations or causing one of the above results should pull the felony charge and year penalty.

    Drones near fires has become a serious problem and needs to be stomped hard and fast before people do start dying.

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  2. Re:Give me a break; misdemeanor is already excessi by dwillden · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Small threat? When a drone is seen near an active fire, all aircraft are grounded until it is removed from the scene. The removal of those aircraft can allow a fire to escape fire lines, to surround and entrap ground crews and many more issues. Not just increasing risk to humans but also substantially increasing the cost of fighting a fire.

    Note also that the wording is up to a year. That gives them the option of going first with a misdemeanor and fine for most cases, but should a drone cause the crash of a firefighting aircraft or loss of life due to aircraft not being able to drop retardant at a critical point then they have the option of going for the felony charge. They can also go that way for repeat offenses.

    Drones flying near fires is a serious problem and it needs to be stomped hard to get people to wake up and not interfere just to get some cool video for Facebook.

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  3. Re:this should be a misdemeanor by Maelwryth · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have been on the ground in a couple of large fires and you just don't have time for air traffic control for other aircraft. You have multiple helicopters working in already dangerous conditions moving as fast as possible to inhibit the fire frount. No radar and low level. Drones are a pain in the ass and need to be banned from the area, same as other aircraft.

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  4. Re: Give me a break; misdemeanor is already excess by Zocalo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not quite the same severity of problem, so no. Sure, a bird strike can cause a lot of damage to a plane, but firefighting aircraft tend to be slower moving over the operational zone than in normal flight, which reduces the potential impact damage from both birds and drones. Wildlife is also generally pretty good at getting itself away from things like wildfires, assuming the route is clear and they can move fast enough, so the chances of a bird strike over the fire are actually going to be lower than normal. The extra risk comes from the fact that drones tend to be made of more robust and rigid materials - plastic and metal rather than flesh and bone - so there is more potential for damage per kg., and especially because some of those components are potentially flammable, or even explosive. The chances of it happening might be pretty low, but a battery pack igniting as it passes through a turbine or propeller could really ruin a pilot's day - or worse.

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  5. Yes it puts people and property in danger by sjbe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These are ACTUAL harm to people's lives.... mostly intentional violent crimes. Does flying a drone around and having it drift too close to a fire really seem to fit?

    Yes it does. They have caused aircraft fighting the fire to crash or to divert from their missions (putting out fires) which can cost lives of firefighters and civilians as well as property. This isn't hypothetical. It's literally no different than forcing a fire engine in your town to divert therefore slowing response times. People die when that happens. If you have a legitimate need to fly a drone over a fire then coordinate that activity with the people fighting the fire and there is no problem. Otherwise you're just some jackass trying to amuse yourself and causing problems for others. Furthermore I don't think you appreciate how fast these fires can move. If you are close enough to fly most drones over the fire then you are in legitimate physical danger and might endanger others who have to rescue you from your stupidity.

    By your logic- well, you are "endangering people's lives" by speeding, following too closely, jaywalking, drinking alcohol in public, running at a pool, or playing hockey, so those should be felonies?

    In some cases those things are actually felonies. Don't believe me? Go ahead and drive a car through a school zone at 100 miles per hour while drinking in public and see if that doesn't land you some time behind bars.

    Now, if you flew a drone in a way that ACTUALLY caused harm to someone, perhaps THAT would justify a felony.

    By your logic attempted murder isn't a crime because no one was actually harmed.

  6. Re:this should be a misdemeanor by afidel · · Score: 3, Informative

    The UK CAA recently did some pretty extensive testing, 1.2kg class drones were a significant hazard to helicopters and non-airline airplane windscreens and propulsion surfaces. That means almost the entire firefighting fleet in most cases as only the larger 737 class tankers would be likely to have birdstrike rated windscreens and fanblades, and those are only used on the largest of forest fires.

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