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BYD Claims New Battery Factory Will Be 'Largest In the World' (electrek.co)

China's largest electric vehicle manufacturer, BYD, is opening a new battery factory that it claims will be the "largest in the world." Electrek reports: The factory is located in the western province of Qinghai and while it was "opened" this week, it is still under construction and BYD aims to complete it by the end of next year. BYD President and Chairman Wang Chuanfu said at the opening ceremony (via NDTV): "Electrification is a done deal as several countries have announced a deadline for the sale of internal combustion engine cars to end. Electric vehicles are on the cusp of another boom."

With a capacity of 24 GWh, this new battery factory should enable them to significantly increase production with a total battery production capacity of 60 GWh. BYD focuses on the production of prismatic LiFePO4 battery cells, different from most of the auto industry's NCA and NMC battery cells.

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  1. Giga is a joke by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 2

    Terafactory!

  2. BeauHD shading the truth again... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Informative

    China's largest electric vehicle manufacturer, BYD

    That should be the world's largest electric vehicle manufacturer, BYD. Their EC180 is the best selling EV in the world, by a large margin. That might upset the Teslarati here, though, so i guess BeauHD took the easy way out...

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    1. Re:BeauHD shading the truth again... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

      Tesla said it made 5000 Model 3s in a week? Really?

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    2. Re:BeauHD shading the truth again... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 3, Informative

      PS: Over 12,000 EC180s in the month of May. Tesla has a LONG way to go to catch up to that rate...

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    3. Re:BeauHD shading the truth again... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

      BYD is the holding company that owns BAIC. Much like General Motors owns Chevrolet, Buick, and Cadillac, BYD owns several brands too - one of which is BAIC.

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    4. Re:BeauHD shading the truth again... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

      You were wrong earlier in this thread, you want to extend your errors further?

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    5. Re:BeauHD shading the truth again... by jabuzz · · Score: 2

      Come back to me when the EC180 has passed regulatory tests for the EU and USA so it can be sold in both those markets. I put it to you that an unsafe heap of junk is much easier to manufacture in volume.

    6. Re:BeauHD shading the truth again... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

      Bloomberg looks at VINs as part of its estimate of the number made, but as Bloomberg points out - you apply for large blocks of VINs at one time, and distribute them over much longer time. So you need to smooth VIN applications.

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  3. Capacity? by nojayuk · · Score: 3, Informative

    I presume the 24GWh figure quoted is production capacity. If so, is that per day, per month, annually, what?

    Reading the Fine Article it appears that it's an annual production figure but it's still not spelled out anywhere I could see. If so that's enough battery capacity for about 300,000 Tesla battery packs annually or maybe 500,000 cars from other manufacturers, including plug-in hybrids. A good start, but considering the numbers of cars built and sold each year around the world it's only a good start. That doesn't take into account the greater battery demand electric trucks, buses etc. either.

    1. Re:Capacity? by polar+red · · Score: 4, Informative

      in this article : https://electrek.co/2017/10/25... Tesla aims for a 35 gwh production this year. They are planning at least 2 other Gigafactories.

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  4. Oh yeah? by CaptainDork · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, the Yanks are Trumping that by forbidding coal plants closing, expanding oil drilling to national preserves, and deep water.

    Also in the works is deregulating pollution and gas mileage standards in patriotic non-China, made in America Great Again, America First non-electric transportation.

    Suck it, Chins.

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    1. Re:Oh yeah? by shilly · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's true we need dispatchable power.
      It's true that wind/solar are not dispatchable.
      But why talk about geo-thermal and nuke in that context? Neither of them are considered dispatchable: they're base-load precisely *because* they take ages to spin up and shut down. They may have characteristics you prefer to wind / solar, but whatever else you like about them, they don't offer dispatchability as a competitive advantage.

      And, this article is all about battery storage... which turns non-dispatchable wind/solar into instantaneously dispatchable power.

  5. Half a million Model 3 this year by raymorris · · Score: 3, Informative

    According to all the articles in 2016, Tesla plans to build 500,000 Model 3 in 2018. They issued and sold an additional $2 billion in stock based on this plan.

    Somehow Tesla's actual performance never resembles the plans they announce.

     

    1. Re:Half a million Model 3 this year by vtcodger · · Score: 3, Funny

      Let's see. Tesla is making 5000 Model 3s a week (see post above) and 2018 has 100 weeks, 5000*100 =500000, right? Sounds like the Elon is right on target.

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    2. Re:Half a million Model 3 this year by nadaou · · Score: 2

      > Tesla has not yet reached 5000 model 3s per week. It's a false claim.

      um, ...
      https://electrek.co/2018/07/01/tesla-model-3-production-rate-5000-units-employees-celebrate/

      https://electrek.co/2018/07/01/tesla-model-3-production-milestone-record-total-production-elon-musk/

      Wait for the SEC report in a few days to be sure if they have reached this completely arbitrary threshold. And as always, it's as much the rate of chance as the instantaneous absolute value that matters.

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  6. LiFePO4 has a major advantage. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Informative

    The shelf life of LiFePO4 is substantially longer than Li-Ion. That translates to laptops and cell phones that you don't end up replacing after a few years years because the battery that used to last two days is now only lasting two hours.

    1. Re:LiFePO4 has a major advantage. by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Lithium batteries lose capacity through use; shelf life has nothing to do with it.

      A good Li-Poly typically has 2-5% self-discharge rate per month.

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  7. The Capacity is the Joke by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 2

    With a capacity of 24 GWh, this new battery factory should enable them to significantly increase production with a total battery production capacity of 60 GWh.

    Per day? per second? per year? or lifetime total? Is 60 GWh the total production for all the factories the company owns or the final capacity of the completed factory?

  8. LiPO is totally different to Li-Po by evanh · · Score: 2

    Lithium-Polymer's are the usual Lithium-Cobalt based chemistry. Chemically no different from a laptop battery. 3.6-3.7 volts per cell. These have the highest energy density and are prone to spontaneously going on fire.

    Lithium-Phosphates are a distinct separate battery group using rare-earths and with no Cobalt. 3.1-3.2 volts per cell. Energy density is closer to NiMH batteries and don't have thermal issues.