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Facebook Acknowledges It Shared User Data With Dozens of Companies (cnet.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNET: Facebook has admitted providing dozens of tech companies with special access to user data after publicly saying it restricted such access in 2015. Facebook continued sharing information with 61 hardware and software makers after it said it discontinued the practice in May 2015, the social networking giant acknowledged in 747 pages of documents delivered to Congress late Friday. The documents were in response to hundreds of questions posed to Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg by members of Congress in April.

Facebook said it granted a special "one-time" six-month extension to companies that ranged from AOL to package-delivery service United Parcel Service to dating app Hinge so they could come into compliance with the social network's new privacy policy and create their own versions of Facebook for their devices. Data shared without users' knowledge included friends' names, genders and birth dates. Facebook's documents also said it had discovered that five other companies "theoretically could have accessed limited friends' data" as a result of a beta test. Facebook said in the documents it has ended 38 of the partnerships and plans to discontinue seven more by the end of July.

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  1. What a big surprise, NOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is anyone surprised Facebook did this? When you sign up for a free service that obviously requires lot's of money to operate.That company will find ways to sell your information as a commodity in order to stay in business. In fact you could argue this was Facebook's plan all along was to create a site to collect personal data and then sell it as a service to companies wanting it.

    1. Re:What a big surprise, NOT by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The only surprise from a civics perspective is that they risked Contempt of Congress with their CEO. But he's rich and lawyered-up and apparently Congress converted their jail to a conference room eighty years ago, so from a reality perspective it's not a surprise at all. Still, lots of people think Congress is "doing their job" by grilling the Zuck, so none of the players lose except those people who are merely placated.

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    2. Re: What a big surprise, NOT by houghi · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It is not that they did it. It is that they first said they did not. The interesting thing will be how non-EU countries are going to deal with it.
      In the EU we now have the GDPR and clicking on a button or not clicking on something was ever a contract.

      My guess is that the US will, as always, chhose the side of the people who voted for them. 1$=1vote.

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    3. Re:What a big surprise, NOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't that what stock money is for?

      I mean, Zuckershit is worth BILLIONS.

      why didn't he fund his DC centers, by liquidating stock? issues corporate bonds?

      its 2018. "its a free" service, is no longer sufficient.

      shit.

      back in 2001. "its a free" service, wasn't sufficient.

    4. Re:What a big surprise, NOT by Kokuyo · · Score: 1

      That they did it? No.

      That they actually admit it... somewhat. Although it seems lately that you don't get prosecuted and punished for your wrongdoing the moment more than a hundred people know your name.

      So perhaps people have so gotten used to other being shitty, that you don't even need to fear repercussions for owning up to your deeds anymore. Our apathy is just too strong.

    5. Re:What a big surprise, NOT by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      The only surprise from a civics perspective is that they risked Contempt of Congress with their CEO. But he's rich

      No need to say anything more. The party that has already been helped by Facebook is in contact for more donations, and information on those who would oppose them. They are already chanting "One of us!, ONE OF US!" as they have hit the holy grail of money, and weaponizable data.

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    6. Re:What a big surprise, NOT by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Congress knows that if it went after these people and started handing out hard prison time for corporate malfeasance that they'd soon have no one to shake down for brib^H^H^H^H campaign contributions. Actually solving the problem isn't particularly useful to a representative so long as they can appear to be "acting tough" which is just as effective in terms of getting votes and means that they can continue to "act tough" in the future since the problem remains. Everyone can point fingers and blame everyone else and no one ever needs to actually be held responsible.

    7. Re:What a big surprise, NOT by ITRambo · · Score: 1

      No surprises here. In fact, I expect Facebook to continue finding new and creative ways to sell user data to keep the profits rolling in. The only way to stop it is for everyone to leave Facebook. That's not likely to happen anytime soon.

    8. Re:What a big surprise, NOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is anyone surprised Facebook did this? When you sign up for a free service that obviously requires lot's of money to operate.That company will find ways to sell your information as a commodity in order to stay in business. In fact you could argue this was Facebook's plan all along was to create a site to collect personal data and then sell it as a service to companies wanting it.

      What if you didn't sign up? Are you still 'hoovered' up and sold as a user?

    9. Re:What a big surprise, NOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Juckkrjuu scores big before he exits to New Zealand.

    10. Re:What a big surprise, NOT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure they have already sold all me wang pics to all the porn sites out there... If you see one with a butterfly tattoo... then let me know

  2. Hmm. Three million is "dozens" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Three million is "dozens". Lots and lots of dozens.

    Don't be a dumb fuck.

    1. Re:Hmm. Three million is "dozens" by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      Three million is "dozens". Lots and lots of dozens.

      Don't be a dumb fuck.

      Yes, I'm with your line of thinking. "Dozens" makes it sound like there were about 24 to 120 companies. If they sold access to 24, a company the size of Facebook likely sold it to 24,000. Dozens is probably designed to sound deliberately low whilst not being technically incorrect.

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  3. I am by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jack's broken friendship button

  4. Better Question.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many governments also enjoyed access to this data, either directly or indirectly?

    1. Re: Better Question.... by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Almost all of them.

      Where do you think Creepy Facebook's revenue comes from? "Advertising"? Suuuuuuure....

  5. If it's free... by johnsie · · Score: 2

    You're the product

    1. Re:If it's free... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 0

      So, given the cost of Apple's hardware, they're the products?

      Shocking.

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    2. Re:If it's free... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >You're the product. Even if you don't have an account.

  6. Shared? Hardly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    because sharings caring. Sold yes.

    1. Re:Shared? Hardly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because sharings caring. Sold yes.

      Hey, sharing your $$$ with Fuckerberg is caring, too!

  7. Oh but hey... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...apparently it's all worth it for these attention whores to have a convenient way to post their oh so important pictures of their meals, as if anyone actually gives a shit.

  8. Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Finally, some limits on what Facebook and other creepy stalker companies can do.

    1. Re: Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If a creepy stalker came to your house and asked for all your personal info and you gave it to them....do you go out and try and legislate how much info they can get in the future?

  9. I was thinking "why is this even news"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... then I realised, the news isn't that Facebook shared the data, it's that Facebook admitted it.

    1. Re:I was thinking "why is this even news"... by mrbester · · Score: 1

      What isn't news is that they could admit to having lied through their teeth because they know there will be no legal repercussions in US.

      That might not be true in EU, but at this point they just don't care.

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    2. Re: I was thinking "why is this even news"... by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Yup. Fuckerberg lies to Congress about matters of national importance, and suffers zero consequences.

      But God forbid one of us commoners jaywalks while crossing the street. A team of 3 or 4 paramilitary law enforcers will leap into action!

    3. Re: I was thinking "why is this even news"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup. Fuckerberg lies to Congress about matters of national importance, and suffers zero consequences.

      But God forbid one of us commoners jaywalks while crossing the street. A team of 3 or 4 paramilitary law enforcers will leap into action!

      AMEN to that!

      I recently
      tried something I would NEVER have imagined was possible and CERTAINLY nothing I have tried before in the 50 years I have lived so far...

      I got a ticket for crossing the street in violation of a red light, despite there being no cars... But there WAS a cop hiding behind a corner that RACED his bike up in front of me with a snarling attitude and gave me a ticket.. I look like a (mostly) harmless white caucasian business man but STILL he INSISTED that my look was "provoking him"...

      DESPITE that I live in a EU country where police officers, even street cops, get a VERY lengthy training before they are made police officers (they must study in 3 years) ... I wish I knew what the hell his problem was... I know even here in the EU that many cops are racist assholes, but since both he and I am white causian males, then it must've been something else..

      OTOH.. politicians in the EU are well on their way to make the entire EU in to one big police state, so it may be a sympton of that...

       

    4. Re:I was thinking "why is this even news"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, the news is that this was limited to "dozens" of companies only.

  10. looking up starvation & deception on alphabet. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    leading killers of us still.. cease fire stand down, there are moms & babys in every town the world around.. that's the spirit..

  11. Only idiots trust Facebook by sjbe · · Score: 0

    Facebook has admitted providing dozens of tech companies with special access to user data after publicly saying it restricted such access in 2015.

    It's not a problem if you don't use Facebook. (or less of a problem anyway) I understand why people use Facebook but I really don't see the value proposition as anywhere near sufficient for me to trust them with any sensitive data. I can't control what other people do but I'll be damned if I'm going to help them out by volunteering my information just so people I barely interact with can pretend to be my "friend".

    1. Re:Only idiots trust Facebook by tsa · · Score: 1

      Having lots of "friends" on FB makes it less clear to the companies who buy your data who you rrally are. That may be a small plus.

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  12. What's the problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You FOSS people want everything else to be free, why not personal data?

  13. we have one of these headlines one a month by nimbius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Frankly this is hardly news, let alone tech news. Facebook has been from its very inception a tool to harvest personal data for sale as analytic data to corporations seeking to exploit the human condition in the sale and marketing of products and services. The simplest way to curtail this behavior is to stop using facebook. There is no legislative process, no interlocutory system of plugins and ad blocking, and no personal privacy setting that is more powerful or directly effective.

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    1. Re:we have one of these headlines one a month by MTEK · · Score: 2

      It's not new news, but it's worth repeating. The general public needs to get this through theirs heads. And Google deserves the same spotlight.

    2. Re:we have one of these headlines one a month by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Informative

      The problem is that even if you yourself don't use Facebook, if enough of your relatives or friends use it, they can probably build a pretty good profile on you as well. Even better from their perspective if no one is trying to control their privacy settings. I really wonder what the default settings about sharing information are for non-users.

    3. Re: we have one of these headlines one a month by houghi · · Score: 1

      I live in a GDPR country, so I know the answer to that question.

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    4. Re: we have one of these headlines one a month by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      "There is no legislative process"

      A strong data privacy law would put Creepy Facebook out of business overnight.

    5. Re: we have one of these headlines one a month by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A strong data privacy law would put Creepy Facebook out of business overnight.

      Shitstain fascist literally calling for more state corruption

    6. Re:we have one of these headlines one a month by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only can, but do build profiles on non-members (called "shadow profiles").
      It includes information about who has tried to search for you, who has your phone number in their phone, otherwise mentions your name, and having photos presumably containing you etc.

      Just Google facebook shadow profiles. They track you through others.

  14. Who couldve guessed?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yeah that's always been their business model.

    Everyone knew this going in. Wait until people "realize" their facial recognition technology ties in with the US govt.

    That'll be a hilarious discovery

  15. And before 2015? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I think the real story should be about the information shared pre-2015, before the restrictions were officially applied.
    If there was widespread sharing of userdata after restrictions were put in place, what was the scope of sharing before that???

  16. obvious, but only in retrospect by davecb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That wasn't the expectation when it started: it was an on-line version of the college yearbook, run on a shoestring. It was named after the Harvard student directory, thus the name.

    It grew, and added universities first, funding itself privately and then via venture capital, and only then business pages, making it a recruiting supplier (like linkedin) and then an advertiser. Eventually it added high schools, and finally anyone.

    It's customers were the "slowly boiled frogs" of the fable: only now is it obvious that facebook became a spy service at some time in the past.

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    1. Re: obvious, but only in retrospect by houghi · · Score: 1

      That point in the past ess when they started it. Seriously: look it up.

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    2. Re: obvious, but only in retrospect by davecb · · Score: 1

      Sure, citation?

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  17. always by Torvac · · Score: 1

    just the tip of the iceberg, the shocking truth comes in small pieces.

  18. ... and this is a surprise? by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

    Of course not. Facebook's business model is the accumulation and sharing of data. Why does anyone expect them to behave in a manner that runs against their business model?

  19. What a waste of a posting by WindBourne · · Score: 2

    Seriously, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft, Yahoo, etc have been selling your data for YEARS.
    The ONLY one that has not sold off our data (that connects directly/indirectly to us) is Google. Google DOES sell data, but it is aggregated data, it is not individual data. IOW, it can not be used to tie to you.

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    1. Re:What a waste of a posting by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 1

      it can not be used to tie to you.

      ... As far as we know.

    2. Re: What a waste of a posting by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Google sells lotsa personal data to Uncle Sam and other repressive governments.

      So much more lucrative than selling advertisements no one looks at for products no one wants...

    3. Re: What a waste of a posting by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      What data is Google selling to whom?
      Do you have proof of that?
      I know one company that tried to get data from Google and could only get aggregated, nothing personal.
      As to FB, MS, Apple, Yahoo, they were able to get anything that they wanted.

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    4. Re: What a waste of a posting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? You expect Pastor Peen the Pedofile to actually have a basis in fact for his bullshit? Fat chance.

    5. Re: What a waste of a posting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone who wants it

  20. GET OFF SOCIAL MEDIA, NOW. by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    How much more of this do you have to see? It's time to leave social media behind. Stop fooling yourself that you 'need' it.

  21. Anyone still on Facebook should blame themselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After all this news, anyone who is still using Facebook and gets data mined should take responsibility for their own stupidity.

  22. I just don't get it by jenningsthecat · · Score: 1

    Facebook has manipulated, lied to, and sold out its users from the beginning. They only admitted any wrongdoing, (oh, sorry, those were mistakes, right?), when Congress held their feet to the fire. The Zuck can't even go to Britain now, or he'll be hauled in front of Parliament and asked questions that he clearly doesn't want to answer. (There's a delicious corollary here that goes something like "if you're afraid, then you must have something to hide"). Examples of Facebook lying and dissembling continue to come to light - such behaviour seems to be part of their corporate culture, from the top down - and yet they're still in business.

    I understand people who grudgingly give in to extortion by mobsters, or to threats by blackmailers. What I DON'T get, is people who seem quite happy to be manipulated, deceived, and turned into products by the very companies to whom they grant full-access backstage passes to their very lives. Do Facebook users truly think themselves so unworthy?

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  23. FBI are notorious for fake companies. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >>dozens of tech companies with special access to user data

    Oh totally cool thanks Mark Zuckerberg we trust you now. Glad I put all my real life and kid's first farts and every soup I made in November 2017 online for studies and data acquisitions.

    Why are you people sofa king stupid.

  24. 'Shared' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
    SOLD is the term you were looking for.