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NSA Purges Hundreds of Millions of Call and Text Records (nytimes.com)
schwit1 shares a report: The National Security Agency has purged hundreds of millions of records logging phone calls and texts that it had gathered from American telecommunications companies since 2015, the agency has disclosed. It had realized that its database was contaminated with some files the agency had no authority to receive. The agency began destroying the records on May 23, it said in a statement. Officials had discovered "technical irregularities" this year in its collection from phone companies of so-called call record details, or metadata showing who called or texted whom and when, but not what they said. The agency had collected the data from a system it created under the USA Freedom Act. Congress enacted that law in 2015 to end and replace a once-secret program that had systematically collected Americans' domestic calling records in bulk. The National Security Agency uses the data to analyze social links between people in a hunt for hidden associates of known terrorism suspects.
Sure. The NSA is purging data- just like Kim is purging North Korea's nuclear program. Both are very believable.
I'm sure the NSA is just making a show of deleting data whilst backing it up in another database with more stringent security needed to get access to.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
according to Clapper.
That seems like alot of trouble to go to just to unsuccessfully hide Moscow Donald's collusion with Russia's attack on America.
They may well be removing these records from their usual online system, but they're not going to go back and destroy tapes. And I'll bet a dollar that they're not taking these records offline, just taking them out of the system most likely to be audited.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
was eliminated by moving it into a different fridge when the inspectors called.
"Encyclopedia" is to "Wikipedia" what "Library" is to "Some people at a bus stop"
Against themselves and other deep-state players. That's just the biz as usual. We know where their sympathies lie by their sedition against the current government (which you don't have to approve of to see happening)...Hell, Clapper even admitted lying to congress, and Brennan...holy cow, what an obviously warped person. Things rot from the head down, most often. They're just wiping it, like with a cloth.
Why guess when you can know? Measure!
See, all the old fogy terrorists are dead now.
These millennial terrorists have their noses in their phones and they are on social media now - these kids don't talk!
As a matter of fact, the last terrorist bombing was done by this 20 something and right before he blew himself up he texted and posted on twitter - "Allah Akbar!" - He didn't even bother to scream it.
Nice spin on this story. What they actually did was destroy evidence of their criminal wiretapping enterprise.
These people belong in jail.
So, we have weasel words. Not deleting prior to 2015 CDRs. Not deleting CDRs post 2015 collected under a different permission.
Obama's UN Ambassador Samantha Power is most upset over this.
She won't be able to blame coworkers over unmasking any more Trump campaign workers.
What were the UN ambassador's coworkers doing using her credentials to dig through the archives of the entire US intelligence community to spy on the campaign workers of a rival political campaign?
Shhhh... You're not supposed to ask that question!
Well... there go all my backups!
That's what they gather in a day. Why is that news?
NSA says:
"Oh noes, the cattle (er, we mean citizens) have had their privacy rights (LOL!) brought to their attention (thanks, Zuckerberg!) and since we've had the market cornered on violating people's privacy for decades, we're in their crosshairs now, what ever shall we do!?"
"..never fear! We'll throw them a bone and (claim we) delete a bunch of (old, useless) texts and emails. Just to make it sound more legit, we'll claim we never had the right to have some of them in the first place. The cattle (*cough* sorry, 'Citizens') are gullible and will believe we're on the up-and-up and are taking responsibility for our misdeeds (LOL)."
Good game, NSA, good game.. but the guillotine is waiting for you; you're on The List. It's just a matter of time.
Unlike the Trump Treason Team in the Republican party, democrats are loyal Americans.
When Democrats caught Trump colluding with Russia's attack on our country, they didn't just bend over for Vladimir Putin like a treasonous Republican!
Democrats did their job and protected our country. A string of indictments and guilty please from people who conspired with the worst treason in human history are the legacy of patriotic Americans.
Donald Trump's campaign manager is sitting in prison right now, and their are many guilty pleas from his co-conspirators.
So I guess your post is nothing more than bullshit designed to defend the worst traitors in history.
Hundreds of millions SEEMS like a big number. But we're talking about the NSA and their breathtaking scale. Hundreds of millions out of a billion records is a sizable chunk. Hundreds of millions of records out of hundreds-of-trillions-to-quadrillions is a rounding error.
Given the scope of the NSA's massive illegal data trawl, my suspicion is that the base number is more on the larger end, and this is nothing more than a PR move to SOUND like they're serious about privacy and say "See? We totally fixed the problem!" while not needing to say "We still collect virtually everything."
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Moscow Donald said he was going to "Lock Her Up" and badly wants to but unfortunately for him Hillary Clinton was a devoted public servant who operated in an ethical and legal manner.
Of course while Mike Flynn (who plead guilty to being an unregistered foreign agent) was yelling "Lock Her Up" it was actually him who was committing multiple serious crimes and colluding with Russia's attack on America and devising rewards for their attack on our country.
Your talk of "pissboys" is also amusing, considering the Russian prostitute urine show that Trump participated in in a Russian government wired hotel room in Moscow. Really takes the piss out of your argument and splashes it all over Donald Trump and that poor mattress..
I don't know if you hate the West, but you and Donald Trump sure are eager to collude with and protect America's enemies as they attack our country.
But Your Honor, I shouldn't be prosecuted because I've destroyed the illegal items after it was discovered....of course the off line backup still have the illegal items but I won't tell anybody
So you are claiming that a congressional committee stacked with traitors is more credible than a guilty plea by the 'unregistered foreign agent' himself...
Donald Trump's Russia connected campaign manager is in prison right now, and the Republican treason team you are so fond of can't do anything about it.
Treason isn't just illegal. It's wrong.
Lock him up!
It's not as as clear-cut as that.
While it seems that all those who've put party before country have been Republicans, it's also true that not all those who put country before party are Democrats.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Anyone's trust in the NSA should be extremely well informed and strictly circumscribed. However, this is the first indication that NSA has any sense of duty to the American people, or respect for the law, so I'm not going to shit on them for it. The larger failure is Congress' inability to defend the rights of American citizens.
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
We already made backups elsewhere.
Nice try covering up for Russia.
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What would happen to me if I illegally obtained millions of records and then waited years to delete them off my servers.
They should learn how to virtue signal like the Republican party and herr Trump.
Wave that flag and cowboy hat yeehaw!
Translation: "We looked at all this info carefully, and we determined that it has no value to the intelligence community, so we're deleting it".
Secondary translation: "We know that this collection program is going to leak out eventually, so we're getting ahead of the story by announcing it".
The NSA is a spy agency. Spy agencies will sometimes operate within the clear bounds of the law, sometimes they dwell in the very large grey area that sits between full legality and full criminality, and sometimes they head out into criminal territory. A good spy agency tries to remain fully lawful whenever possible and dips into the grey area only when necessary. A bad spy agency doesn't even acknowledge the boundaries and is basically just another criminal organization.
As far as spy agencies goes, the NSA is one of the good ones. They try to stay legal whenever possible, while still doing their job. I support the mission of the NSA. Super important for American security. That being said, it'll certainly bend the rules and ask for forgiveness only if someone notices.
McCabe lied under oath 3 times. Proof given.
13 Russians indicated, no proof given, even after trial starts.
Flynn indicated, no proof given to oversight of DOJ/FBI.
So when someone is indicting people without showing proof, and suggesting to judges to lock people up without bail without proof, THEY are the traitors. When suggestions to charge people with proof given and the DOJ does nothing, THEY are traitors.
Pointing out bad behavior on behalf of the DOJ/FBI is not traitorous. Unless you are one of those Democrats that still believe in segregation and that people you don't like are not entitled to fair justice and shouldn't be allowed at the lunch counter like Sanders was, and that they need to sit at the back of the bus.
Democrats - Promising to bring back segregation and second class citizens!
The Repubs learned it all from the Democrats.
Lacking any third-party verification, that headline should be "Says They Have Purged" instead of "Purges". Simply stating as fact whatever claim the gov't makes, without any attempt at verification, is poor journalism.
So they're purging some of their nigh-infinite amount of personal communications records - maybe. Even if they do, they're not purging all the rest and I'm sure they're replenishing their data banks with your post-2015 communications.
Aw, hell, who am I kidding? I have to email people who stupidly use Google, Yahoo or Microsoft for mail services. So it's my communications as well
June 25 2018: The Intercept draws attention to buildings they allege contain NSA splitter-taps taps on communications networks, and especial cooperation by AT&T.
June 28 2018: NSA jumps the shark releasing 'limited hang out' claiming they oopsied 685 million 'records' and are deleting them like good Boy Scouts.
The records are supposed to gather attention away from the buildings and the idea of full intercept of gathering of communications. It's a shell game, and you're supposed to think "they were naughty but are sorry and they took care of it." Watch now as the 685 million records eclipse the prior story and the news networks start talking about 'records' and not 'taps'. Mission accomplished.
Senators do this too. Ask them a question about buildings or taps, or the infrastructure for continuous warrantless surveillance, and they'll pretend you asked them about that handy voluntary call record sharing program. Press firmly and they'll do it again. Press harder and they move on to the next question.
More,
>Reddit post on 5EYES and NSA splitters
> Things have got to change, But first, you gotta get mad!
> NSA and the Desolation of Smaug
> I am Sam. Uncle Sam I am.
> I really hated Men In Black
> Am I the first to suggest... BLACKMAIL??
> Sherlock Holmes: training wheels for NSA surveillance
> Stick a fork in the Republic, it's done. HR4681/309 (failed submission)
> The backbone, then (1980s) and now
> Whatever happened to the 'old' NSA? Directive 18?
> Last Wish: The Pact (dystopian fiction)
<blink>down the rabbit hole</blink>
Fox News Channel viewer detected. Abort.
That is all. The NSA isn't what you see in movies. It's just a bunch of drones doing "their jobs".
Snowden should tell you all you ever needed to know about how ultra awesome the CIA/NSA are. The only thing that makes them look competent is that people are terrified to cross them.
Which are?
No, fuckface, those aren't weasel words. That is a very specific description of a very specific action.
While you are trained to hate the NSA and emotionally compelled to assume that everything they do is evil and deliberately deceptive, there's nothing deceptive about this. It's an action with a narrow scope, described as an action with a narrow scope.
I'm sure Putin is very upset that you hate the NSA. I'm sure ...
After collecting illegal data for 3 years, NSA purges data to make room for more illegal captures
We have stuff on Trump, and Putin doesn't like it.
They said they deleted it hey fuck it they did it yes.
im sure they were going over how much "crap" they have and remove it for more storage than spending $100 million on more drives.
It's not a typo if you understood the meaning!
They're trying to make it sound like a large number, but there are several billion telephone calls made per day in the U.S. And tens of billions of texts sent.
Even if they miss some local calls, over the years they've been spying, I'd have a hard time believing they've collected less than a trillion records.
Hundreds of millions is piddling.
What they actually did was destroy evidence of their criminal wiretapping enterprise.
I do believe you hit the nail on the head. The jig is up and they're trying to CYA.
I'd mod you up myself but I'm out of mod points just now,
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
NSA trying to explain why all those "deleted records" weren't, ah, deleted.
"Well you see, they went to the Recycle Bin, and the Recycle Bin, you see, recycled them. Back into our monitoring databases. It's really for the environment, we are trying to be green. You understand."
Whoa - the fifty cent armies are out in force for this one! 100+ idiotic posts arguing back & forth about TRUMP!!!!!11!!!! All posted by the same two astroturfers, using augmented trolling software to circumvent Slashdot's antispam features.
Nice topic dilution, gentlemen - well done!
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BTW: does anyone know the name of the software tool(s) used by these astroturfers?