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NSA Purges Hundreds of Millions of Call and Text Records (nytimes.com)
schwit1 shares a report: The National Security Agency has purged hundreds of millions of records logging phone calls and texts that it had gathered from American telecommunications companies since 2015, the agency has disclosed. It had realized that its database was contaminated with some files the agency had no authority to receive. The agency began destroying the records on May 23, it said in a statement. Officials had discovered "technical irregularities" this year in its collection from phone companies of so-called call record details, or metadata showing who called or texted whom and when, but not what they said. The agency had collected the data from a system it created under the USA Freedom Act. Congress enacted that law in 2015 to end and replace a once-secret program that had systematically collected Americans' domestic calling records in bulk. The National Security Agency uses the data to analyze social links between people in a hunt for hidden associates of known terrorism suspects.
Sure. The NSA is purging data- just like Kim is purging North Korea's nuclear program. Both are very believable.
I'm sure the NSA is just making a show of deleting data whilst backing it up in another database with more stringent security needed to get access to.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
They may well be removing these records from their usual online system, but they're not going to go back and destroy tapes. And I'll bet a dollar that they're not taking these records offline, just taking them out of the system most likely to be audited.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
was eliminated by moving it into a different fridge when the inspectors called.
"Encyclopedia" is to "Wikipedia" what "Library" is to "Some people at a bus stop"
Against themselves and other deep-state players. That's just the biz as usual. We know where their sympathies lie by their sedition against the current government (which you don't have to approve of to see happening)...Hell, Clapper even admitted lying to congress, and Brennan...holy cow, what an obviously warped person. Things rot from the head down, most often. They're just wiping it, like with a cloth.
Why guess when you can know? Measure!
More like covering the Obama administration's illegal surveillance of the Trump campaign, and further hide the FBI/CIA collusion with foreign actors to attempt a soft coup of Trump's presidency.
Nah, this is a grand scheme to cover up the fact that Russian officials have been passing Trumps pee tape around as an email attachment for years.
Not sure what you are suggesting here -- that the security agencies of the U.S. should secretly and illegally maintain metadata on millions and millions of American citizens on the off chance that these same agencies can cull through this data to target their "enemies"? This just gets to the related problem that there are so many laws currently on the books and since ignorance of the laws is no excuse, that almost anyone can be jailed for breaking one or more of them based on prosecutorial discretion...
Nice spin on this story. What they actually did was destroy evidence of their criminal wiretapping enterprise.
These people belong in jail.
So, we have weasel words. Not deleting prior to 2015 CDRs. Not deleting CDRs post 2015 collected under a different permission.
I'm pretty sure he's just an American who is pissed off by having a complete and utter narcissist moron as a president. In the US that opinion might be as controversial as climate change but where I live everybody agrees with this assessment so it's hard for us to blame him for his off-topic posts.
Well... there go all my backups!
NSA says:
"Oh noes, the cattle (er, we mean citizens) have had their privacy rights (LOL!) brought to their attention (thanks, Zuckerberg!) and since we've had the market cornered on violating people's privacy for decades, we're in their crosshairs now, what ever shall we do!?"
"..never fear! We'll throw them a bone and (claim we) delete a bunch of (old, useless) texts and emails. Just to make it sound more legit, we'll claim we never had the right to have some of them in the first place. The cattle (*cough* sorry, 'Citizens') are gullible and will believe we're on the up-and-up and are taking responsibility for our misdeeds (LOL)."
Good game, NSA, good game.. but the guillotine is waiting for you; you're on The List. It's just a matter of time.
Donald Trump's campaign manager is sitting in prison right now, and their are many guilty pleas from his co-conspirators.
So I guess your post is nothing more than bullshit designed to defend the worst traitors in history.
FYI: I actually read Russian pretty well--no need for you to translate, although the effort's appreciated.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
All those hits are for Fox News, the Washington Examiner, ACLJ, CNS, ... all the usual outlets for disinformation.
Get back to us when there's an actual story reported in actual news media.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
So you are claiming that a congressional committee stacked with traitors is more credible than a guilty plea by the 'unregistered foreign agent' himself...
Donald Trump's Russia connected campaign manager is in prison right now, and the Republican treason team you are so fond of can't do anything about it.
Treason isn't just illegal. It's wrong.
Lock him up!
It's not as as clear-cut as that.
While it seems that all those who've put party before country have been Republicans, it's also true that not all those who put country before party are Democrats.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Anyone's trust in the NSA should be extremely well informed and strictly circumscribed. However, this is the first indication that NSA has any sense of duty to the American people, or respect for the law, so I'm not going to shit on them for it. The larger failure is Congress' inability to defend the rights of American citizens.
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
We already made backups elsewhere.
Nice try covering up for Russia.
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Translation: "We looked at all this info carefully, and we determined that it has no value to the intelligence community, so we're deleting it".
Secondary translation: "We know that this collection program is going to leak out eventually, so we're getting ahead of the story by announcing it".
The NSA is a spy agency. Spy agencies will sometimes operate within the clear bounds of the law, sometimes they dwell in the very large grey area that sits between full legality and full criminality, and sometimes they head out into criminal territory. A good spy agency tries to remain fully lawful whenever possible and dips into the grey area only when necessary. A bad spy agency doesn't even acknowledge the boundaries and is basically just another criminal organization.
As far as spy agencies goes, the NSA is one of the good ones. They try to stay legal whenever possible, while still doing their job. I support the mission of the NSA. Super important for American security. That being said, it'll certainly bend the rules and ask for forgiveness only if someone notices.
Lacking any third-party verification, that headline should be "Says They Have Purged" instead of "Purges". Simply stating as fact whatever claim the gov't makes, without any attempt at verification, is poor journalism.
June 25 2018: The Intercept draws attention to buildings they allege contain NSA splitter-taps taps on communications networks, and especial cooperation by AT&T.
June 28 2018: NSA jumps the shark releasing 'limited hang out' claiming they oopsied 685 million 'records' and are deleting them like good Boy Scouts.
The records are supposed to gather attention away from the buildings and the idea of full intercept of gathering of communications. It's a shell game, and you're supposed to think "they were naughty but are sorry and they took care of it." Watch now as the 685 million records eclipse the prior story and the news networks start talking about 'records' and not 'taps'. Mission accomplished.
Senators do this too. Ask them a question about buildings or taps, or the infrastructure for continuous warrantless surveillance, and they'll pretend you asked them about that handy voluntary call record sharing program. Press firmly and they'll do it again. Press harder and they move on to the next question.
More,
>Reddit post on 5EYES and NSA splitters
> Things have got to change, But first, you gotta get mad!
> NSA and the Desolation of Smaug
> I am Sam. Uncle Sam I am.
> I really hated Men In Black
> Am I the first to suggest... BLACKMAIL??
> Sherlock Holmes: training wheels for NSA surveillance
> Stick a fork in the Republic, it's done. HR4681/309 (failed submission)
> The backbone, then (1980s) and now
> Whatever happened to the 'old' NSA? Directive 18?
> Last Wish: The Pact (dystopian fiction)
<blink>down the rabbit hole</blink>
That is all. The NSA isn't what you see in movies. It's just a bunch of drones doing "their jobs".
Snowden should tell you all you ever needed to know about how ultra awesome the CIA/NSA are. The only thing that makes them look competent is that people are terrified to cross them.
Which are?
Sometimes, I like to pretend that all the ACs on slashdot are foreign agents trying to undermine peoples faith in America in particular and western democracy in general.
So long and thanks for all the fish.
im sure they were going over how much "crap" they have and remove it for more storage than spending $100 million on more drives.
It's not a typo if you understood the meaning!
What they actually did was destroy evidence of their criminal wiretapping enterprise.
I do believe you hit the nail on the head. The jig is up and they're trying to CYA.
I'd mod you up myself but I'm out of mod points just now,
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Whoa - the fifty cent armies are out in force for this one! 100+ idiotic posts arguing back & forth about TRUMP!!!!!11!!!! All posted by the same two astroturfers, using augmented trolling software to circumvent Slashdot's antispam features.
Nice topic dilution, gentlemen - well done!
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BTW: does anyone know the name of the software tool(s) used by these astroturfers?