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Comcast Will Limit Xfinity Mobile Video Streaming Resolution (engadget.com)

Xfinity Mobile customers will soon see a change to their video streams. From a report: In the coming weeks, videos streamed using cellular data will be limited to 480p resolution, a move that other carriers including T-Mobile, Verizon and Sprint have implemented for certain plans in the past. Videos streamed over WiFi won't be affected by the change and Comcast says that it will offer the option to stream 720p video over cellular data for an added fee later this year. Until that plan becomes available, customers who would like to continue streaming video at 720p will be able to do so for no charge, they'll just have to call the carrier in order to set that up. Additionally, users with an unlimited plan will see their hotspot speeds capped at 600 Kbps.

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  1. Xfinity Will Limit Comcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

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    1. Re: Xfinity Will Limit Comcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've sat through a number of meetings these past few weeks where my Git and GitHub fanboy co-workers have been panicking over what to do now that Microsoft is buying GitHub. Some are saying that we should use GitLab instead. Others are saying we should use Bitbucket instead. No one has suggested SourceForge, of course, since we don't waste out time providing open source software. I suggested we go back to using SVN, and that nearly caused some of them to foam at the mouth in rage! It has been absolutely hilarious how these guys just couldn't shut up about how Git is so great because it's 'decentralized', yet they went ahead and centralized us on GitHub and now it's causing them to soil their trousers out of some inane fear of Microsoft!

    2. Re: Xfinity Will Limit Comcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the whole "C++ is written in the C language" discussion all over again.

      Hilarious! Yes, git can run from anywhere - I surprised that L.T. sold it to MS,
      but maybe selling it to nVidia would've been a different story...

      CAP === 'gallows'

    3. Re: Xfinity Will Limit Comcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think your "decentralized" aligns with "decentralized" in Git parlance.

      Unlike SVN, Git actually is decentralized. Unlike SVN you can commit to your local repo as often as you like and push-pull commits to the remote repos of your colleages, putting off commits to the origin repo for as long as you like. SVN, by contrast, requires you to have an active internet connection to the origin repo to make any commits and doesn't have a local repo concept at all.

      wrt. GitHub and the Microsoft buyout... big deal. It's trivial to clone an origin repo somewhere else (even to your own Git server locally or on EC2/GCP) and get everyone to update their origin server references. Job done.

  2. People will freak out at this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yet they'll not realize that it is essentially pointless because mobiles don't have a decent resolutions for useful HD, it's just crushed in to such a small screen.,
    480p is fine for mobiles.
    Only if you have a >10inch screen would HD make sense to even want.
    Of course, people will say "but I am using my phone as an internet connection for laptop", yeah well pay up bucko, that wasn't in your terms.

    Still a dick move, but this is what you get when you stand back and let your communications regulator fuck your country over instead of taking the incompetent scummy corrupt pricks to supreme court.

    1. Re:People will freak out at this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever heard of a tablet?

    2. Re:People will freak out at this by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

      Isn't that what Moses brought down from the mountain? Old tech.

    3. Re:People will freak out at this by MightyYar · · Score: 2

      Honestly this is just Comcast marketing being completely inept. T-Mobile manages to sell this behavior as a feature: Use our amazing video shrinkifyer and save your data! Comcast comes off more like: YOU USE TOO MUCH DATA. COMCAST SMASH. GIVE MORE MONEY.

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    4. Re:People will freak out at this by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

      Yet they'll not realize that it is essentially pointless because mobiles don't have a decent resolutions for useful HD, it's just crushed in to such a small screen.,
      480p is fine for mobiles.
      Only if you have a >10inch screen would HD make sense to even want.

      Or using VR lens over your smartphone.

    5. Re:People will freak out at this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or if you paid for it and you want it delivered.

    6. Re: People will freak out at this by fortfive · · Score: 1

      Like the Supreme Court would side with the consumer.

    7. Re:People will freak out at this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course, people will say "but I am using my phone as an internet connection for laptop", yeah well pay up bucko, that wasn't in your terms.

      What business is it of theirs what you do with your data? Electricity providers have no say in what you do with the power you pay for. Water providers have no say in what you do with the water you pay for. You're paying for data at specified throughput, not a nanny to to throttle it.

      If you want to do something stupid and pointless like leave all your lights on all day or water the street or stream HD video to a handheld screen, that should be your prerogative. You're paying for the supply, not oversight.

    8. Re:People will freak out at this by Calydor · · Score: 1

      Except not quite. Particularly the water argument suggests you don't consider laws (not just rules from the water provider, but actual legal laws) prohibiting excessive and unnecessary use of water during drought periods for things like washing cars, watering lawns etc.

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    9. Re: People will freak out at this by PaulRivers10 · · Score: 1

      I can definitely tell the difference between 480p and 720p on my phone and it's the smaller screened google pixel, not even one of the large screen phones. I'd say about half the videos I'm watching in the browser, it's to grainy, I go through the effory of switching to the youtube app so I can get 720p. My phone would be a lot less useful if capped at 480.

    10. Re:People will freak out at this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because with T-Mobile it *IS* a feature.... you can disable it any time you like. With the resolution limiting, quite often the video does not even count against your data limit, without the limiting it does, but it is your choice, and you can change it any time you like in their app. Comcast is forcing this without a way to opt out.... I personally don't mind the res drop on my phone, and even on my small table, but when I tether to my 12" tablet or laptop, I can switch it off should I chose to.

    11. Re:People will freak out at this by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      But that's my point - this is entirely a problem with Comcast's marketing. The bandwidth-saving lower-res video concept is sound and accepted by consumers on other carriers. The way Comcast is rolling this out is completely inept.

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    12. Re:People will freak out at this by DarkRookie · · Score: 1

      480p isn't that all that great for most phones now. The base line should now be 720p. Most phone now a days have 1080p panels or higher
      I can tell the difference between 480p, 720p, and 1080p on my phone.

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    13. Re:People will freak out at this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I stream films on my 5.5" mobile and while it's true going 1080p is pointless, going anywhere below 720p is very noticeable.

    14. Re: People will freak out at this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL, silly libertarian! Next you'll be saying your money is yours to spend how you like.

    15. Re:People will freak out at this by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Yet they'll not realize that it is essentially pointless because mobiles don't have a decent resolutions for useful HD

      Not entirely sure what kind of a shitty backwards phone you have along with your desperate need for an updated prescription but even the difference between 720p and 1080p is easily visible on a mobile phone screen.

    16. Re:People will freak out at this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I found the Comcast employee...

    17. Re:People will freak out at this by Lordpidey · · Score: 1

      Having a VR lens won't improve your screen's resolution.

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    18. Re:People will freak out at this by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

      Having a VR lens won't improve your screen's resolution.

      The point is resolution matters when your smartphone is used in this way. 480 ... 1080.... 2160 ... are all quite noticeable leaps in quality in VR.

      480 looks like total crap in VR. Contrary to OPs assertion 480 is far from sufficient.

    19. Re:People will freak out at this by flargleblarg · · Score: 1

      480p is fine for mobiles. Only if you have a >10inch screen would HD make sense to even want.

      Speak for yourself!

      There is a world of difference between 480p and 720p on an iPhone 6/8 Plus or iPhone X. And you can even tell the difference between 720p and 1080p with most content. The difference between 900p and 1080p is hard to notice, but do not say that it requires a 10" screen to want actual HD content. You must have crummy vision?

    20. Re: People will freak out at this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get your eyes checked. There is an enormous difference in a 6â screen between 480p and 1080p

    21. Re:People will freak out at this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be using a really old phone if 480p is "fine for mobiles". Phones have a ton more pixels these days.

  3. Bust out that ol' VPN... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Time to use that VPN service, so the ISP isn't dinking with what you are doing constantly.

    1. Re:Bust out that ol' VPN... by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 1

      I believe this is only for videos from Xfinity, not all video.

  4. Xfinity Mobile limits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who are these people who are trying to stream 720p or 1080p video on their 5" phone screen? This seems like a sensible network congestion prevention practice on the part of mobile operators. I know I sure don't want to not be able to get email or surf the web because everyone around me is chilling with netflix.

    1. Re: Xfinity Mobile limits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Each packet should be treated equally.

      Your email traffic is not more important than my streaming traffic. We both pay for usage.

    2. Re:Xfinity Mobile limits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know I sure don't want to not be able to get email or surf the web because everyone around me is chilling with netflix.

      You seem to be under the assumption that not implementing this restriction somehow means that anyone trying to stream video has priority over anyone doing anything else. I am here to say that you can rest assured that if congestion is bad enough to interfere with your web browsing, then it is bad for everyone, including anyone trying to stream video at any resolution.

    3. Re: Xfinity Mobile limits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. There is a reason QoS exists, and that is to ensure everyone, not just the pr0n hound on RedTube has access to the whole entire pipe to do their business.

    4. Re:Xfinity Mobile limits by flargleblarg · · Score: 1

      Who are these people who are trying to stream 720p or 1080p video on their 5" phone screen?

      People with decent visual acuity.

  5. Wow... Another double whamy by TFlan91 · · Score: 0

    So not only does a mobile user need to pay T-Mobile, Sprint, etc for data, but then they need pay Comcast for the ability to use that data if it's >480p?!

    Wow. Good thing the FCC / FTC / current administration all have the consumers back.........

    1. Re:Wow... Another double whamy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      What's it like being this stupid?

    2. Re:Wow... Another double whamy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So not only does a mobile user need to pay T-Mobile, Sprint, etc for data, but then they need pay Comcast for the ability to use that data if it's >480p?!

      The first two words of the article are, and I quote:

      "Xfinity Mobile"

    3. Re:Wow... Another double whamy by TFlan91 · · Score: 1
  6. See, we didn't need NN! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "Just look at all of the innovation in service pricing we've unleashed! Clearly, this will lead to better service and consumer experiences. This is the kind of greatness you can have without all of that pesky bad government regulation."

    - Ajit Pai Verizon Lawyer, FCC Chairman.

  7. 600 Kbps? other networks give full speed till 20G by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1, Insightful

    600 Kbps? other networks give full speed till about 20G.

    Any ways what is next at home speeds caped at say 5meg for non Comcast network useless you pay $50/mo month or get multi gig at $300/mo?

  8. Changing Any Comcast Service = Reactivating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In my experience with Comcast, changing any service typically results in having to reactivate all devices again. Often not a biggie for TV boxes, but can be a hassle for internet.

    For subscribers calling in to keep 720p video streaming, be aware your home internet connection could reset, requiring reactivation. In addition, while on the phone, be wary of upsells and other suggested changes. Why anyone would sign up with Comcast / Xfinity for cell service is beyond me. I suppose the Quad Play (or whatever they call it) may be cheaper for some, but still seems a huge risk. Generally, better to keep one's internet and cell phone service separate.

  9. So it begins again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Welcome back to the fukening. This is the kind of shit that happens without NN. It has nothing to do with physical bandwidth capabilities. Charging for drops of water from an ocean while making you think it's a puddle.

    1. Re: So it begins again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK genius which terms of net neutrality wouldâ(TM)ve prevented this? Honestly this seems like sensible bandwidth management.

    2. Re: So it begins again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Educate yourself and you will find the answer.

    3. Re: So it begins again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop talkin' like you home boy...

  10. Quick question by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 1

    So not only does a mobile user need to pay T-Mobile, Sprint, etc for data, but then they need pay Comcast for the ability to use that data if it's >480p?!

    Wow. Good thing the FCC / FTC / current administration all have the consumers back.........

    Okay, so quick question: would the Net Neutrality rules, as implemented by the FCC before the recent walk-back, have prevented this?

    Asking for a friend...

    1. Re:Quick question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes

    2. Re:Quick question by r_naked · · Score: 2

      Probably not. They could probably use the "reasonable network management" clause to justify this.

      However, what Title II would have prevented was what is going to come next: "Pay $XX.YY and get the Comcast Streaming Service(c) package! Stream in GLORIOUS HD! Package includes Netfix, and HBO. Package subject to change without notice."

      Paid fast lanes.....

      -- Brian

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    3. Re:Quick question by Pubstar · · Score: 1

      TFA already said they are going to charge extra for 720p streaming.

    4. Re:Quick question by r_naked · · Score: 1

      TFA already said they are going to charge extra for 720p streaming.

      If that is across the board, then that STILL would fall under the guise of network management.

      When they charge extra for specific services, THAT is NOT network management.

      Now, do I know that they are going to do this -- nope. However, if anyone here thinks that Comcast ISN'T going to do that -- you are on crack.

      -- Brian

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    5. Re:Quick question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Devil's Advocate...does "reasonable network management" also apply to the interruption/throttling of bittorrent traffic?

    6. Re:Quick question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I kind of like the option to be able to pay for better service than to forced by law and practicality to be stuck with sub par performance.

      Ultimately there is no such thing as "Unlimited data" you are either going to get restrictions or have to pay per byte.

      Average consumers don't like the idea of getting a surprise bill or paying for more than they use. Neither wants a true dollar/byte usage plan.

      Having the option to have otherwise relatively cheap "unlimited" which then allows you to buy extra services like 4k streaming works out for more people as they can choose which plans work best for them and the providers can cut deals to lower costs and offer better options in the competitive mobile market.

    7. Re: Quick question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is all moot if you properly encrypt your traffic.

      And no, HTTPS doesn't count, as it reveals the domain, if not the URL, of the connection. (video.google.com == throttle!)

      When encryption is combined with secret domain resolution, throttling specific content becomes effectively impossible unless they do IP throttling (and you can't argue that's reasonable network management, you're just blocking/discriminating against a particular sender/reciever)

  11. Web DRM / Ecrypted Media Extension by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This kids is one of the little gems, if any, of encrypted media extensions. They will not be able to use those little boxes from Sandvine that downgrade media, online, mitm style. It's the 90's all over again except ISP's aren't selling dialup with "excelleration" which is nothing more then their intercepting and severely compressing images. They've moved on to other content.

    Get fucked Sandvine and all your Elk.

    1. Re:Web DRM / Ecrypted Media Extension by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All fine and good, until you wrote "Elk". It's "ilk".

  12. COMCAST IS FUCKING YOU OVER! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The details don't matter. You're being screwed and have no choice about it.

  13. Once again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...480 is quite sufficient for a tablet, which has a smaller screen size than the first TVs...

    1. Re:Once again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You didn't sit 12" from a screen with the first TV's...and are you really trying to compare the quality of an old TV now?

    2. Re:Once again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You didn't sit 12" from a screen with the first TV's...and are you really trying to compare the quality of an old TV now?

      480p is fine for an old TV.

      It is complete shit for anything else.

  14. Re:600 Kbps? other networks give full speed till 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/02/politics/michael-cohen-donald-trump/index.html No streaming in Federal Prison Trumpies.

  15. Got UHD bleeding retina display by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and get punked down to SD. Greedy Trumpians in the Greedy Trumpian dark ages.

  16. Why should Comcast get a say? by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

    I predict sometime soon as fragmentation of video services and content continue we will start to see video services changing their systems to prevent providers from screwing with them to gain competitive advantage.

  17. Does quality matter on a smartphone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think the higher the quality the worse the stability get's with cellular anyway. Then they talk about 5G fixing everything. I'll believe that when I see it. With all the great quality large screens out there and super fast broadband, who watches video content on the smartphone all the time? Other then the short YouTube video, or cat video? Some people think they are watching everything in 4K but in reality not much content is done in it. Frankly, 480p would be more stable and satisfy most on a small screen device.

    1. Re: Does quality matter on a smartphone? by PaulRivers10 · · Score: 1

      I go to the effort of switching from youtube in the browser (which almost always defaults to 480) to opening the same video in the youtube app (which usually defaults to 720) becaise I'm watching a video and realize I can't quite see what's going on. And I only have the smaller 5" pixel phone.

    2. Re:Does quality matter on a smartphone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you're right mostly but I can think of a couple reasons to watch 720p
      - 480p video has a lower bitrate. You have to choose more "p"s to get more bitrate so that it looks better
      - videos where you have to look at text, and they made it for 720p and 1080p users!

      I'm sure 480p with a high end codec (H265, VP9, ..), decent bitrate, decent audio bitrate would be great. 480p 60fps video would be awesome (I never could play 60fps video on youtube, my CPU was not fast enough to deal with it in 720p or 1080p). But, providing a choice of 480p, high end 480p and 720p would be more expensive and confusing. So you have to choose 720p instead, which on the web uses lowish bandwith anyway.

  18. Re:600 Kbps? other networks give full speed till 2 by msauve · · Score: 1

    Yea, "users with an unlimited plan will see their hotspot speeds capped at 600 Kbps." So, IOW, it is not unlimited, there being a very strict and specific limit.

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  19. Unlimited plan isn't... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1.5TB per 31 day month, artificially capped by the 600Kbps rate limit.

  20. the USA are the laughing stock of the Internet by loufoque · · Score: 1

    Even in Africa they have unlimited 2Mbps connections

    1. Re:the USA are the laughing stock of the Internet by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 1

      Since I'm posting this from an inexpensive symmetrical Gigabit connection at my house in the USA, pretty sure you meant to say Comcast mobile video, not USA as a whole.

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    2. Re:the USA are the laughing stock of the Internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Africa they drink water that Americans flush down the toilet.

    3. Re:the USA are the laughing stock of the Internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah but they also have rampant disease and out of control crime and murders.

      so they can laugh at our internet all they want.

      Now i'm gonna go take a nap in my nice secure safe air conditioned clean home. ;)

  21. Tethering caps by sconeu · · Score: 1

    Additionally, users with an unlimited plan will see their hotspot speeds capped at 600 Kbps

    But didn't the FCC say that we didn't need a higher definition of broadband because people could use mobile for high speed access?

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  22. My prediction by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 1

    This is going into play so that, later on, they will announce this ' limitation ' will not impact customers who are streaming from Xfinity's own video services.

  23. Xfinity - cellular - laptop = low res service by hAckz0r · · Score: 1

    So, if I got this straight,in order to get a decent resolution on a cellular connected laptop or tablet, one now needs to first stream it to their desktop at home, and then through a VPN it to another endpoint site, and then finally to their laptop. Yes, I can really see this improving service quality. Thanks Comcast. /s

    1. Re:Xfinity - cellular - laptop = low res service by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      You think that Xfinity is still going to allow VPNs or uploading enough data from your desktop to stream? That's cute.

      But in all seriousness, your solution probably will work until just after the 2020 election. After all, why risk making it a voting issue?

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    2. Re:Xfinity - cellular - laptop = low res service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, if I got this straight,in order to get a decent resolution on a cellular connected laptop or tablet, one now needs to first stream it to their desktop at home, and then through a VPN it to another endpoint site, and then finally to their laptop. Yes, I can really see this improving service quality. Thanks Comcast. /s

      Did you miss the part about tethered devices being capped at 600kb/s? Because that puts a bit of a kink in that plan.

    3. Re: Xfinity - cellular - laptop = low res service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How would they possibly know that the destination of the VPN, that they neither own or control, is tethered? To them the endpoint is just the local xfinity cable modem.

    4. Re: Xfinity - cellular - laptop = low res service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't need to stream live if you can record and then play hires later. The point he made was about downgraded resolution. Sure they can cap the cable modem speed for all users, but they would be shooting themselves in the foot if all xfinity streams to the desktop suck. Not a good way to run a business, by giving everyone bad service.

    5. Re: Xfinity - cellular - laptop = low res service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How would they possibly know that the destination of the VPN, that they neither own or control, is tethered? To them the endpoint is just the local xfinity cable modem.

      The same way every mobile company knows if a device is a mobile device or a device tethered to a mobile device? Or did you also miss the part about this being for xfinity MOBILE (google it before you reply, please).

    6. Re: Xfinity - cellular - laptop = low res service by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      He never talked about downloading recordings. He talked about proxying it through your home network. And by limiting the upload speed (cable modems are asymmetric) Comcast can prevent that.

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  24. Re:600 Kbps? other networks give full speed till 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What, you don't parse contracts with a dictionary and a lawyer like a normal person surely does? It's unlimited data, not unlimited bandwidth! You can download all you want. You'll just be doing it VERY SLOWLY.

  25. Re:Why did BSD die? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It it smells dead, it's dead.

    Sniff, sniff, sniff, sniff. PU.

    Yeah buddy. BSD is deader than a possum at dinnertime in coontown.

  26. Trump will die in Federal Prison - "Biz Savvy" :D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trump coward defends bankrupt casino traitor, tries to pretend he's a business whiz too? Release your taxes faggot Trumptard, that'll say more than you can ever speak believably about, ya feckless INCEL cunt. You're an idiot lol Ivan.

  27. HTTPS Should Make this Hard by jaa101 · · Score: 1

    If the streaming is over HTTPS they shouldn't be able to throttle based on video resolution. Yes, they can throttle based on data rates and the source network address but that's still going to be a crude mechanism. Constant quality video should have variable bitrates anyway.

  28. Yeha. by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 1

    For people who believe these guys when they offer something... this is a bit like going to a buffet where they offer "all you can eat," and "unlimited numbers of trips to the buffet line," but you can only use one plate at a time, the plates are handed out at the end of a long line and only one at a time, after the person handing the plates out verifies that you paid for the buffet by checking your receipt, (and does this each time, and marks down the time and checks your ID, so no receipt, no plate, and if someone ELSE besides you comes up with your receipt, they simply take your receipt away, meaning no more buffet,) and also the plates are actually saucers normally used with teacups. Kinda sucks the fun out of the whole experience. That said, of course, fuck Comcast.

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