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Federal Facebook Probe Now Includes FBI, SEC: Report (apnews.com)

A federal probe into Facebook's sharing of user data with Cambridge Analytica now involves the FBI, the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Justice Department, a report said. AP: Representatives from these agencies have joined the Federal Trade Commission in the inquiry, The Washington Post reported, citing five unnamed people familiar with the matter. The probe reportedly centers on what Facebook knew in 2015, when it learned that the political data-mining firm Cambridge Analytica had improperly accessed the personal data of tens of millions of Facebook users. Facebook didn't disclose the incident with the political firm, which later worked for the Trump campaign and other Republican candidates, until this March.

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  1. Good. Burn them all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Execs. Chump employees. All of them. Drag them out to the public square and burn them like witches.

    1. Re:Good. Burn them all by ausekilis · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As much as I'd love to see a good witch burning, I think a more realistic expectation isn't fire or even jail time. It'll be a couple million dollar fine and a shameful finger wave.

      If and until fines become greater than profits for corporations bad behavior, this cycle of crap will continue.

    2. Re:Good. Burn them all by Train0987 · · Score: 1

      At minimum there's a good chance Zuckerberg is forced out over this.

    3. Re:Good. Burn them all by ole_timer · · Score: 1

      he still owns a lot of facebook stock

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    4. Re:Good. Burn them all by ole_timer · · Score: 1

      the fines should be bigger than that...but maybe the lobbying will reduce them...

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    5. Re:Good. Burn them all by avandesande · · Score: 1

      Recently some kid recorded his principal with a cellphone and is facing felony charges. Why should facebook be exempt from prosecution?

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    6. Re:Good. Burn them all by gmgravytrain · · Score: 2

      Facebook is too profitable for anyone to mess with. Zuckerberg is a very powerful and influential individual so he's practically untouchable. I'm sure a lot of people in high places own Facebook stock and they'll stop anyone or any faction from affecting Facebook's high profitability. High profits will always come before things like personal privacy protection. Zuckerberg is a winner at life and business. Nothing can stop him now. He's the second or third richest man in America so he's become some sort of a sacred icon to Wall Street. He's definitely Teflon-coated, so nothing bad can stick to him.

    7. Re:Good. Burn them all by cayenne8 · · Score: 2
      Well, the thing is....even if they find ALL of this is true, likely I"m thinking the quite little they can charge FB with and punish them for....

      I mean, while no one likes it, under current US law, there's really NOTHING that is codified as being illegal about it, otherwise we'd be stringing up tons of companies over this type thing.

      The only good thing that could come out of this, is for the US to pass at least basic privacy laws for our citizens and let it be know that WE own our own data, have rights to see/view, and opt IN if we want it shared or used for us, and can also have it removed/deleted if we wish.

      I'm not much of one for most EU type laws, but that last one on data privacy could be used for a model here, if anything useful is to come out of this FB data outrage.

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    8. Re:Good. Burn them all by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      I don't believe anyone should be untouchable; nor do I believe anyone IS untouchable if the crime is popular enough with those prosecuting.

      One can dream of a scenario where Hillary, Trump and Zuckerberg all share a cell together.

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    9. Re: Good. Burn them all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is just y big deal because it was the campaign of President Trump's that did this. Nobody gives a damn that the Clinton and Obama leftist scum received the same kind of data to enable their campaigns. I'm glad we have President Trump and I will vote again in November against all of you leftists and for America. You have already lost the elections in November and now we will crush you. There will not be a socialist dystopia in the United States.

    10. Re: Good. Burn them all by BellyJelly · · Score: 1

      "One can dream of a scenario where Hillary, Trump and Zuckerberg all share a cell together" Which one still be the bitch?

    11. Re: Good. Burn them all by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

      "One can dream of a scenario where Hillary, Trump and Zuckerberg all share a cell together"

      Which one still be the bitch?

      Zuckerberg is probably the most feminine, with the most delicate features of the three- so probably him.

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    12. Re: Good. Burn them all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When the SEC gets involved, it's bad and someone sees jail. A founder and CEO misleading investors in a publicly traded company to avoid a major sell off of stock in response to very bad PR that he and other higher ups knew about but chose to not disclose is purely driven by personal profit. In effect, they cheated investors if they sold stock or revised their own holdings while forcibly witholding this news. Better yet if they put employees under duress of loss of wages or threats to future employment to keep them quiet. This will not end well for quite a few at Facebook.

    13. Re:Good. Burn them all by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Zuck is a cuck installed by the NSA to helm the public rollout of their pet project.

      At best, he believes his own bullshit. Realistically, he knows he's a useless piece of shit and he gets his marching orders from behind the scenes.

    14. Re: Good. Burn them all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hubris in spades. Facebookâ(TM)s address used to be Sun Microsystems. In fact the rear of the Facebook sign still has the Sun logo because Zuckerberg wanted employees to always remember what happens when a company takes its eye off the ball.

      Based on this news, maybe Facebook should have moved into Enronâ(TM)s old headquarters.

    15. Re:Good. Burn them all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zyborg Zuck is a cuck who can suck my fuck!

    16. Re:Good. Burn them all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that supposed to get me hot?

    17. Re:Good. Burn them all by easyTree · · Score: 1

      Because they have enough cash to be innocent?

  2. Too big by fluffernutter · · Score: 2

    The American way... let company do terrible things to people and get too big to fail, THEN investigate.

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    1. Re:Too big by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, because if we allow Facebook to fail, people won't be able to have enough dysfunctional social competition in their lives and that would be terrible.

    2. Re:Too big by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let a person do terrible things to people and then investigate.

      Wow, sounds so horrible! What an authoritarian nightmare that they don't even processes pre-crime.

    3. Re:Too big by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      I don't expect them to investigate pre-crime, but I do expect them to investigate before it is too late for anything to be done about it. You can't tell me Facebook has only been doing this since last month. Heck, most technical people knew this was the point of Facebook since the beginning. Where there is smoke there is fire, and now the firemen are getting there to a black smoking mess.

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    4. Re:Too big by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      can you please elaborate on what you mean?

      "You can't tell me Facebook has only been doing this since last month. Heck, most technical people knew this was the point of Facebook since the beginning"

      thank you.

  3. Going to include the Obama campaign? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Keep in mind that Cambridge Analytica only "improperly accessed" the data based on Facebook's new rules, the old rules and Facebook's own API allowed them access to the data they acquired. There was no "illegal access" - this was data that Facebook happily gave the Obama campaign as well as just about any company that asked.

    There's no clear reason for the FBI to be involved other than continued butt-hurt over the "wrong" candidate winning the election. No one cared when Obama used the same trick to steal the election from Romney.

    1. Re:Going to include the Obama campaign? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So what you are trying to say is, that since the Democrats are shitbags, Republicans should get a free pass for being shitbags too?

      Guess what, they're both shitbags, one just has R written on and the other has a D written on it.

      The reason why this country is going to hell in a bucket is shit like this. Both sides just keep screaming at each other "BUT THEY DO IT TOO!"

      This is how Liberty dies.

    2. Re:Going to include the Obama campaign? by Train0987 · · Score: 0

      Facebook's rules do not supersede federal privacy laws.

    3. Re:Going to include the Obama campaign? by GregMmm · · Score: 1

      What Federal Privacy laws were broken? Didn't everyone agree to share there data?

    4. Re:Going to include the Obama campaign? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What federal privacy laws, exactly? The information shared was information Facebook was legally allowed to share. If it wasn't, then Obama is exactly as guilty as Cambridge Analytica and should be under investigation too, as his campaign pulled literally the same stunt that Trump's did. (And I'd be amazed if the same tools weren't handed over to the Clinton campaign as well.)

      But there are no such laws. You might think there should be, but there aren't. The data Facebook shared was legally shared. If it wasn't, then Obama (and likely Clinton) are just as guilty.

    5. Re:Going to include the Obama campaign? by Train0987 · · Score: 1

      You don't get to opt out of the law. If you agree to let someone kill you they are still guilty of murder (under the law).

    6. Re:Going to include the Obama campaign? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So what you are trying to say is, that since the Democrats are shitbags, Republicans should get a free pass for being shitbags too?

      Exactly the opposite: Democrats are getting a free pass to be shitbags while Republicans are being prosecuted for things people happily ignored Democrats doing.

      You're right, both sides are bad and both sides should be treated the same. But THEY ARE NOT. Just look at the way the media treats Obama versus Trump. Just look at the investigations against Trump for bogus charges while people ignore Clinton selling uranium to Russia or using Russian sources to "dig up dirt" on Trump.

      For whatever reason, Democrats are allowed to be shitbags while only Republicans get prosecuted for it. They're both shitbags and should both suffer the same consequences, but they don't.

    7. Re:Going to include the Obama campaign? by Train0987 · · Score: 2

      I'm not making a political statement either way. I'm simply explaining that if the FBI is involved then that means they are investigating whether federal law was violated. It may be as simple as lying to Congress or it may be more than that.

    8. Re:Going to include the Obama campaign? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love it when whiny Republican shitbags pretend nobody on the D ticket is ever looked at, as the Trump traitors get hauled off to life in Federal Prison. "UNFAIR!" the retards cry, to my rolling laughter.

    9. Re:Going to include the Obama campaign? by will_die · · Score: 4, Informative

      See the link below for the issues.
      Part of the legal issues is that agreement, the link below, requiring that facebook perform actions which is being investigated to see if they broke.
      the issue with Cambridge Analytica is that they had access to people who had not given consent, so breaking the FTC agreement.
      What Obama's 2012 team was allowed to do by facebook was take data only from people who had consented (you logged into obama's website using your facebook account). However they were given access to data that facebook never gives to anyone else and is listed as user data that will not be distributed and was not the list of information that would be shared, so consent for some data not given. In addtion obama's team was allowed to suck that data directly from the facebook databases and then keep the data indefinitely. All of that is in violation of the FTC agreement.

      https://www.ftc.gov/news-event...

    10. Re:Going to include the Obama campaign? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Clinton
      - Took $145 million in bribes to approve Uranium One sale to Russia
      - Deleted 30,000 emails AFTER they were subpoenaed
      - Lied under oath 7 times, proven so far
      - Mishandled classified information over 110 times
      - Consequences... NOTHING

      Trump
      - Won an election Clinton should have
      - FBI sent at least 4 spies into his campaign
      - FBI illegally wiretapped Trump tower
      - FBI fraudently started investigation with no evidence
      - FBI mishandled entire Trump investigation to date, according to their IG
      - Consequences... Anyone who helps Trump is in legal trouble or in jail for nothing to do with Trump campaign because they DARED to help him win.

      Yep, that's pretty much how it works. You are a D, you can take bribes, obstruct justice, and lie under oath without consequences. You are an R and you and everyone you ever talked to will be investigated and charged with tax crimes from 15 years ago (I thought it was a 7 year limit, but not if you are an R I guess).

    11. Re:Going to include the Obama campaign? by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Except in Oregon (under certain circumstances -- assisted suicide)

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    12. Re:Going to include the Obama campaign? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah of course, Trump did nothing wrong and his lifetime in Federal Prison will be an "Unfair!" "Witch hunt!" lol. Of course, snowflake.

    13. Re:Going to include the Obama campaign? by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2

      In case anyone is wondering about the hypocrisy, read this article https://www.theguardian.com/wo...

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    14. Re:Going to include the Obama campaign? by HeckRuler · · Score: 2

      this was data that Facebook happily gave the Obama campaign as well as just about any company that asked. ...No one cared when Obama used the same trick to steal the election from Romney.

      The difference being what they used the data for. If you use the yellow pages to call people and tell them to vote for you guy, eh, fine. Annoying but not a crime. If you use the yellow pages to systematically murder people in a district to try and sway the vote, that's wrong.

      Trump and Russia used and Internet propaganda campaign of lies to sway voters. This is, subtly, different from a campaign PR campaign. Namely:

        - Is it clear who purchased the advertisement?

        - Is it clear that it IS an advertisement?

        - Does the advertisement lie to the viewer, and to what extent?

      Show me the propaganda from the Obama campaign, and I'll show you a pile of garbage out of Russia that's 10 times worse.

    15. Re:Going to include the Obama campaign? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What Obama's 2012 team was allowed to do by facebook was take data only from people who had consented (you logged into obama's website using your facebook account).

      This part is FALSE. Obama's campaign took the people who allowed them to and then PULLED THE PROFILES OF ALL THEIR FRIENDS and then targeted THEM for ads. (After all, if you allowed Obama access to your Facebook account, they can be pretty sure you're going to vote for him. It was all to allow Obama access to your FRIEND'S data, regardless of their preferences.)

      Which is literally the same thing that Trump's campaign did, as the rest of your comment makes clear: Obama illegally accessed data in the exact same way Trump did.

    16. Re:Going to include the Obama campaign? by will_die · · Score: 1

      Nope, the obama page would get the list of your friends. It would then target you, with that list and request that you click on a link so that a message could be sent to that friend. This is similar to all those games on faceback.
      Also Trump did not illegally access the data, he hired a company which exceed the people, they would normally have which then sold services to the Trump campaign which included that data.

    17. Re:Going to include the Obama campaign? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, the obama page would get the list of your friends. It would then target you, with that list and request that you click on a link so that a message could be sent to that friend. This is similar to all those games on faceback.

      You know how it picked the friends to target? By READING THEIR PROFILE DATA. Which it got because Facebook at the time gave all information about a user and all the user's friends as part of the API.

      This is exactly the same way that Cambridge Analytica got their data, through Facebook's own API.

  4. Didn't users opt-in for this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what exactly is the crime? They helped Trump get elected?

    Someone should remind the Deep State that they only exist as long as they stay in the shadows. This kind of behavior, along with the amorous, anti-Trump FBI agents, really doesn't play well in middle america. If the FBI, DoJ and SEC are investigating, can Mueller be far behind.

    1. Re: Didn't users opt-in for this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean they needed to opt-out

      Even signing up for the CBS streaming service they requires your gender and date of birth. There is no reason for this at all for this requirement. There is no opt-in on any of this shit and rarely an opt-out.

    2. Re:Didn't users opt-in for this? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 0

      So what exactly is the crime? They helped Trump get elected?

      That should be reason enough to reinstate the death penalty.

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    3. Re:Didn't users opt-in for this? by forkfail · · Score: 1

      The problem with wanting to put your political enemies up against the wall with a cigarette and a blindfold is that there's a good chance that you yourself will either be joining them or that it'll be they who are the ones making up the firing squad.

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    4. Re:Didn't users opt-in for this? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 1

      The problem with wanting to put your political enemies up against the wall with a cigarette and a blindfold is that there's a good chance that you yourself will either be joining them or that it'll be they who are the ones making up the firing squad.

      Obviously it was a joke- I wouldn't really suggest anyone be executed for voting for Trump, or helping him get elected.

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    5. Re:Didn't users opt-in for this? by forkfail · · Score: 2

      Apologies. Made the mistake of looking at Twitter earlier today, and my ability to distinguish between hyperbole and actionable rage is damaged at the moment.

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  5. Lock them up! Lock them up! Lock them up! by JoeyRox · · Score: 1, Troll

    And, lock them up!

    1. Re:Lock them up! Lock them up! Lock them up! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1, Insightful

      2016 was a really bad year for democracy. We were caught out, we thought social media wasn't a big deal and didn't notice Russia interfering.

      We must fully investigate and learn everything we can about what happened. The chances of anyone significant going to jail are low and we aren't going to have a do-over now, but what is important is making sure it doesn't happen again. Not the same way, and not some different way with whatever new tech we come up with.

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    2. Re:Lock them up! Lock them up! Lock them up! by HeckRuler · · Score: 2

      It was both good and bad for democracy.

      Consider this: A political outsider running on a populist platform managed to get elected over the established candidate that everyone thought was going to win. That's amazing. An upset. A sign that we actually live in a democracy. Because even if everyone can vote, but there's only the illusion of choice and the party leaders are going to pick whom they want to run, then it's not really a democracy. And for all the elections I've been around for, the victor was pretty much determined by who paid more for it. That's not a democracy, that's a plutocracy at best or a government full of corrupt official semi-employed by corporate interests at worst. But Trump only raised about half the money Hilary did. And he still won.

      I was feeling really cynical about the whole process but this one actually opened my eyes to the fact that the voters really DO have control over the outcome. Shocking I know. And HO BOY was that a shock. Seriously, I saw the numbers midway through and had to have a drink.

      Now... it's ALSO a bad day for democracy. It showcased how effective propaganda can be, in case anyone had forgotten that. It also showcased how ugly elections can get. It wasn't NEARLY as bad as, say, the elections down in Mexico right now. The pile of corpses simply doesn't stack up. But it was relatively ugly for the crazy primary, tone of violence, vitriol, and hacking someone's email isn't the sort of thing we want to become commonplace. And just the sheer volume of bold-faced lies. It wasn't a good election. Better than some of our own from the past, but pretty bad by recent standards.

      Buu ugliness aside, completely ignoring the... security holes of democracy and how easily swayed the voting masses are. This was a bad day for democracy. Because the guy that got elected is almost* universally reviled. The opposition really hates him. More so than the other side hated a black guy, surprisingly. The media hates him. His own party's leadership isn't a huge fan, but they're willing to use him. Some even came out against him. The best thing about our nation is it's ability to change. To balance out things and fix what's wrong. After this sort of populist movement got someone SO BAD into the white house, we're not going to see ANY hope of another populist movement again for a long time.

      "but what is important is making sure it doesn't happen again."

      Yep. Exactly. That'll mean more "super-candidates", more party control over who gets onto primary ballots, and the general populace will be more leery of political outsiders. It's kind of a damn shame, because if the DNC didn't have such a strong hold over the party then maybe Bernie might have had a real shot. Trump vs Bernie would have been an interesting election.

      But hey, other than the EPA and FCC being castrated, maybe things won't be so bad. He's legitimately made good strides with N.Korea. Let's hope, right?

      *almost, but not all. There is a very significant number of people that legitimately like his leadership style. A bully, in charge, bold, "masculine", authoritative. I'm pretty sure Mussolini wrote about this. "He'll make the trains run on time". One downside of democracy is that a lot of people are assholes.

  6. Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    ... this was data that Facebook happily gave the Obama campaign as well as just about any company that asked.

    No they didn't. That is a lie started by Conservative Troll media (Fox News, Hannity, Rush, and all the idiots on political talk radio - and that makes you a rube.) I didn't start seeing ANYTHING from the Obama campaign until I signed up.

    Now, what CA did was target people unsolicited with BS ads about immigrants , "America is for Americans only", stuff about infrastructure, and other issues that their data suggested - and targeted ads accordingly.

    Trump then used that data to customize his speeches in those areas based upon data.

    For example, they found that people were concerned about infrastructure and that is when Trump said that he was going to spend a Trillion dollars on roads, bridges and highways.

    And why when he was in Potatohoe he railed about keeping them illegal immigrants out - even those people have no illegal immigrant problem.

    And everyone seems to think facebook and CA are the problem when it's really our stupid electorate (mostly the conservatives) who lack critical thinking skills and are too lazy to really learn about the issues.

    Because let's face it, Trump won on complete horseshit.

    1. Re:Bullshit by Train0987 · · Score: 2, Informative

      That is nonsense. 63 million people weren't persuaded to vote against Clinton by Facebook ads. That is, at best, wishful thinking. At worst it's willful self-delusion and cognitive dissonance.

    2. Re:Bullshit by snapsnap · · Score: 1

      > Trump then used that data to customize his speeches Not speeches, only one speech. They decided against using the data because they didn't trust it and didn't trust that they would continue to have access to it.

    3. Re:Bullshit by Train0987 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      They cling to this Russians! nonsense as a defense mechanism against facing the reality that their worldview has been rejected. There must be some higher reason to explain how a circus clown was able to defeat them when the entire deck stacked in their favor.

    4. Re:Bullshit by Train0987 · · Score: 0

      I wasn't on the ballot and no politician is worthy of hero status. Your delusion is strong. Good luck with that in November.

    5. Re:Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good luck with life in Federal Prison meanwhile, ass licking traitor. I can't wait until we round you treasonous faggots up or better yet, just watch as you do it to yourselves, lol. Red state retards lol. So dumb, so manipulable.

      March them right into bondage next to their obese orange Traitorfuhrer.

    6. Re:Bullshit by Train0987 · · Score: 0

      Every post you make drives more voters away from the Democrats. Is that your purpose?

    7. Re:Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh, every post you make drives Trump one moment closer to dying in Federal Prison, a traitor. Is this your sad life coming to an end also, asslicking INCEL Trumptard traitor? You lost the popular vote...

      Now you lose your freedom too, snowflake traitors. "UNFAIR!" lol

    8. Re:Bullshit by Train0987 · · Score: 1

      It's more likely that you're the Russian spy sent here to make Democrats look foolish.

    9. Re:Bullshit by burningcpu · · Score: 1

      He did not say the Facebook ads influenced the minds of voters, such that they would vote for Trump. Stop being obtuse.

    10. Re:Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ivan your math skills are as astrotounding as your whataboutist jawing points, in between licking a traitor's asshole on his way to prison. But sure, I'm the Russian influence, lol. #Mueller will see you now. #Don't lie!

    11. Re:Bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is it "Bullshit" or "horseshit"? Trump ran on having a good economy, jobs, and national security. I don't call that horseshit.

  7. SEC only has civil jurisdiction by Train0987 · · Score: 1

    The SEC only has civil jurisdiction, not criminal. They only have the authority to sue, levy fines and prohibit future involvement by bad actors. Only the DOJ can prosecute criminally for securities fraud.

  8. Include the Obama campaign? Probably not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One way to look at it, is that when it happened in 2012 there weren't any negative consequences, but when it happened in 2016 it was a disaster for the country. And that's a good reason.

    Let's say there's a stretch of road where the speed limit is 75 MPH.

    You drive through it at 105 MPH. The visibility is excellent, the road is dry and you're paying attention. The entirety of the consequences turn out to be that you used some gasoline inefficiently (so you'll be paying a little extra for that) plus you got home from your roadtrip a little earlier. Later, someone works out that you must have broken the speed limit.

    And so we're discussing whether or not we can slap you with a speeding fine. Should we? Maybe, maybe not. That's the big question of the Obama presidency. And it's really hard to care. So America got stuck with Yet Another shitty Republicrat, resulting in another fucking 8 years of conservative status quo.

    Then later someone else is also on that stretch of road going 105 MPH. But they're drunk and doing it in the dark without their headlights on. They slam into a schoolbus full of retarded 4 year old children, each of who happens to be hugging a puppy at the time of the collision. Some of the debris slams into some other cars too. The upshot is that 40 retarded 4 year olds, 40 puppies, a nun, Tom Hanks, Elon Musk & Jeff Bezos, Jennifer Lawrence, Rihanna, Beyonce and some other people like that, the newly-grown clones of Albert Einstein and Charles Darwin, Chesley Sullenberger and oh, let's just throw in a bunch more random childen, all slowly burn to death while a hundred million Americans watch them die on TV and hear them screaming in agony. Oh yeah, and the original copy of the Constitution just happened to be getting transported at that moment and was also destroyed in the fire, along with a bunch of American flags and bibles and the master recordings of every Lynyrd Skynyrd album. And it happened under a bridge and caused structural damage that will cost $30 million to repair. And the person who caused the problem just happens to survive; he's the only person within 300 yards who didn't slowly burn to death.

    Now we're discussion whether or not a speeding ticket should be issued to that person. This is the question of the Trump presidency. For whatever reason, people seem to care more about that act of speeding, and America is begging for a return to being ruled by shitty Republicrats because now we realize that everything can be so much worse. when you put a semi-incompetent, embarrassing, corrupt, anti-American, evil person in charge.

    1. Re:Include the Obama campaign? Probably not. by easyTree · · Score: 1

      when you put a semi-incompetent, embarrassing, corrupt, anti-American, evil person in charge.

      Everyone knows that these less-than-ideal traits still make the holder way better than your standard candidate.

    2. Re:Include the Obama campaign? Probably not. by easyTree · · Score: 1

      They slam into a schoolbus full of retarded 4 year old children, each of who happens to be hugging a puppy at the time of the collision. Some of the debris slams into some other cars too. The upshot is that 40 retarded 4 year olds, 40 puppies, a nun, Tom Hanks, Elon Musk & Jeff Bezos, Jennifer Lawrence, Rihanna, Beyonce and some other people like that [thetoptens.com], the newly-grown clones of Albert Einstein and Charles Darwin, Chesley Sullenberger and oh, let's just throw in a bunch more random childen, all slowly burn to death while a hundred million Americans watch them die on TV and hear them screaming in agony. Oh yeah, and the original copy of the Constitution just happened to be getting transported at that moment and was also destroyed in the fire, along with a bunch of American flags and bibles and the master recordings of every Lynyrd Skynyrd album. And it happened under a bridge and caused structural damage that will cost $30 million to repair

      Nothing a band-aid can't fix.

  9. The slow-motion Zuckerbook train-wreck by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    That's what we're witnessing, people, make no mistake about it. The downfall of Zuckerbook is a foregone conclusion, it's on trajectory already, and nothing is going to stop it now; Zuckerbook has committed it's sins, and now they'll have to pay the price: being dismantled, piece by piece, and nothing of value was lost. Do yourselves a favor and flee the sinking Zuckership now.

  10. A bit confused by forkfail · · Score: 2

    OK, I'm honestly a bit confused here.

    Not making a political statement, but hasn't Facebook been selling data in violation of their own policies for the last few years?

    I realize how one could potentially perceive this as unfair play during the election, but by Facebook's own admission, it doesn't really seem to be much different that the rest of the data sharing going on.

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    Check your premises.
    1. Re: A bit confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The SEC doesnt give a rip about fairness or campaign BS. The issue for them is the FB leadership hiding these revelations from unknowing investors that would likely panic sell. That protects the leadership but not the shareholder. So in essence, it is fraud and deception against the creditors, which benefits only the insiders. That said, be on the lookout for insider trading.

    2. Re: A bit confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe Zuck can have Martha Stewarts old cell

  11. Re:Keep pretending Trump isn't prison bound, faggo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Given that the Russians are not about one party winning, but about divisiveness, I have to think that most posts like this these days are themselves coming out of Russian Troll Farms.

  12. Re:Keep pretending Trump isn't prison bound, faggo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hate to break it to you, but the Russian troll farms? They don't really exist. What you're seeing is the mental breakdown of Democrats as they realize that the so-called "blue wave" doesn't exist and that their attempts to alter reality by pretending Trump is less popular than he really is - aren't working. Just look at people like AmiMojo or PopeRatzo. The Democrats have legitimately lost their minds and truly believe that Trump is going to jail soon, despite all facts to the contrary.

  13. ToSing away our privacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So why are you worried about them, then? You're that worried about whether or not someone violated Facebook's ToS, but not worried about our lack of privacy and how much Facebook can manipulate the public? Can you explain why?

  14. Re:Keep pretending Trump isn't prison bound, faggo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hate to admit it, but you are right. The democrats have lost their fucking minds since 2016. Batshit crazy.