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Sony Blunders By Uploading Full Movie To YouTube Instead of Trailer (torrentfreak.com)

Instead of uploading a trailer of "Khali the Killer," an upcoming move from Sony Pictures Entertainment, the conglomerate accidentally uploaded the entire movie on Google's video platform, according to users. TorrentFreak: When we started writing this article the movie had around 8,000 views. Just a few paragraphs later that had swelled to almost 11,000. However, while news may be traveling quickly, those numbers probably won't reach epic levels anytime soon.

As usual, the comments on YouTube are absolutely brutal. The section includes gems such as "Trailer gave the whole plot away. Pass," "It's just the trailer the whole movie will be 4 hours," and the rather blunt "Someone's getting the sackï."

113 comments

  1. If you think that's bad... by cre1mer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Try uploading the video file as a thumbnail by accident. YouTube will upload the whole file before rejecting it as being too big to be a thumbnail.

    1. Re:If you think that's bad... by cre1mer · · Score: 0

      Thank, FCLM.

    2. Re:If you think that's bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, any random AC is FCLM.... eyeroll

    3. Re: If you think that's bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God damn you are fucking stupid. Get a life.

    4. Re:If you think that's bad... by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Have you ever designed anything resembling uploads over HTTP?

      I didn't think so....

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      Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
    5. Re:If you think that's bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're going to try to parody one of my songs, at least do more than just change a name. You are lazy and unclever.

      Sincerely,

      Frank Zappa

    6. Re:If you think that's bad... by LifesABeach · · Score: 1

      "Khali the Killer" == "John Wick 3.0"

    7. Re:If you think that's bad... by cre1mer · · Score: 1

      Serious, we're playing this shit again?

    8. Re:If you think that's bad... by easyTree · · Score: 1

      +1 Sheik Yerbouti

    9. Re:If you think that's bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What shit is that, Chris? The shit were you complain loudly about other people's behavior while acting ten times worse? Or the shit were you throw all your toys out of the crib in outrage and "ask" to have your ten year old account deleted on your "Internet home"? More like: had your flat flabby ass handed to you by a dying website's management, huh Chris?

      Or the shit were you sign up dozens of obvious alts in a desperate attempt to salvage your failed tactics?

      Tell us, Chris, because only a zookeeper specialized in pachyderms can keep up with your flow of soft green shit.

    10. Re:If you think that's bad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut the fuck up cre!Mer . Your constant attempts to manipulate Slashdot readers are insulting and totally transparent. You do not belong here. Notice nobody defends you or wants to talk about bus routes and growing YouTube channels?
      Because you belong on mlm forums swapping get rich quick schemes with stay at home moms

  2. Dear Sony... by Volatile_Memory · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...I would like to see more trailers like this. For every film.

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  3. Shadenfreude by Misagon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Thanks! I needed a good laugh today, to get my mind off my own mistakes.
    However much you have effed up yourself, there is always a bigger idiot who did something bigger.

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    "We mustn't be caught by surprise by our own advancing technology" -- Aldous Huxley
    1. Re:Shadenfreude by infolation · · Score: 1

      North Korea agreed to stop hacking Sony since the Singapore summit, so now Sony have to hack themselves.

    2. Re:Shadenfreude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What did you do?

    3. Re:Shadenfreude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just KNEW Trump was responsible somehow!

      t. lefttits

  4. 3.8 on IMDB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "and nothing of value was lost" comes to mind

  5. It's a "feast" for the trolls by bogaboga · · Score: 1

    Now, let those who hate SONY begin trolling the poor company.

    I used to love their products. Not any more.

    I can see someone getting fired, fast!

    1. Re:It's a "feast" for the trolls by easyTree · · Score: 1

      Ok. I wonder if the trailer has a rootkit.

  6. Maybe I'm cynical... by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Maybe I'm cynical... but I wouldn't be surprised if this was done on purpose to get people talking about the movie that otherwise no one would have heard of.

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    1. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by religionofpeas · · Score: 2

      Exactly. A couple thousand views is hardly a significant loss of potential sales.

    2. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by bahwi · · Score: 2

      That's what I was thinking too. Why would marketing even have the entire film in the same directory as the trailer? Wouldn't it just be emailed across the company network or somesuch?

      And didn't they notice it taking even many further hours to upload.

    3. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a modest settlement from each of the 'views' would pay production costs and turn a profit... even with their usual accounting practices and including lawyer fees... all without a single ticket sold in the theaters.

    4. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      4 gig movie at lets say conservatively a 1 gig connection = 34 seconds.

    5. Re: Maybe I'm cynical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really viewers fault they fucked up, is it?

    6. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I love how your "conservative" estimate is the highest theoretical limit that a corporate PC is likely to be connected with to the internal network.

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    7. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      most large companies have multi-gigabit wan links.

    8. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by ebrandsberg · · Score: 1

      Whoever uploaded it probably uploaded, then simply went to work on another window. I've uploaded many things to Youtube, and it takes more time to "process" then to upload itself, so you don't wait around. Heck, they may have gone and gotten coffee and not realized how long it actually took.

    9. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by JackieBrown · · Score: 2

      Why would marketing even have access to the whole movie?

    10. Re: Maybe I'm cynical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does it matter to Sony?

    11. Re: Maybe I'm cynical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I work in the industry and upload trailers and complete screeners of the entire film all the time. The trailer and the film are often the same file size because my trailer is usually in 4K ProRes HQ which will be about 4gb. My screener is compressed heavily to H264 and also usually about 4gb. They could be named similarly as well and in the same folder. So I see exactly how this could happen.

    12. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by religionofpeas · · Score: 1

      most large companies have multi-gigabit wan links

      And then set up their internal network so that a handful of people could saturate it ?

    13. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Why would marketing even have access to the whole movie?

      A trailer is pretty much a giant ad. Why wouldn't marketing be involved in the creation of it? They're probably also making posters and billboards and paper ads and merchandise design and whatever, lots of reasons they could have access to the whole movie. It makes everything easier until someone screws up...

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    14. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      a modest settlement from each of the 'views' would pay production costs and turn a profit... even with their usual accounting practices and including lawyer fees... all without a single ticket sold in the theaters.

      If Sony uploaded the movie then it's not copyright infringement to have viewed it, since it was provided by the distribution rights holder.

    15. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've never heard this movie until right now. When it inevitably bombs, five bucks says Sony blames piracy.

    16. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Exactly. A couple thousand views is hardly a significant loss of potential sales.

      That's where you're wrong. According to MPAA logic, every pirated copy equals one million copies so this mistake means they lost 50 quazillion dollars and everyone on the planet has already seen the movie eight times.

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    17. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Were they views or downloads?

    18. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Who cares about WAN? I just got a very corporate workstation from HP and it has a bog-standard Intel gigabit ethernet port. Your WAN can pass 1 Tbps and it won't make your LAN go any faster.

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      W..w..W - Willy Waterloo washes Warren Wiggins who is washing Waldo Woo.
    19. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well at least we have DNA. Rest assured, we will find the perp.

    20. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by xlsior · · Score: 2

      Except it would have been trivial for some people to grab a copy and start spreading it elsewhere, presumably even before it hit the theaters. It could very well have an impact on revenue - if nothing else, I'd expect Sony will get sued over it by the other parties involved with some Hollywood-math level of missed revenue claims.

    21. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by fisted · · Score: 1

      No shit, Sherlock. That's why their estimate was okay.

    22. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by sexconker · · Score: 3

      You're not cynical, just observant.

      Sony did the exact same thing with the crappy movie "The Interview". Thy had a turd on their hands and they tossed it out into the open just to get some attention for it. Bonus - they used this to divert attention from the fact that their massive security breach was an inside job. Remember when the intelligence agencies were trying to blame North Korea for it and stir the pot for cyber warfare and other imagined bullshit? Absolutely no one credible in the security sector believes there is any evidence that NK was involved at all in the Sony hack. Oh, and remember when actual hackers dumped all the NSA tools on the net and we all learned that a key focus of their toolkits is making it look like attacks originated from Russia, China, NK, etc. so they could engineer false flag operations?

    23. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by sexconker · · Score: 1

      I've got a gigabit connection at my workstation and can easily hit near that at speedtest.net.

      If I had a business use case for it they'd give me a 10 gig connection. (We actually considered this a few years back when a neighboring office was rewiring with CAT 6, but the cost to rewire our office was too high. Today, I kind of regret not voting to do it because we're storing more stuff externally and the fatter pipe would help.)

      Our network people consistently tell us they WANT the network to be used fully. Maybe it's because they were smart enough to put capacity, QoS, etc. in place.

    24. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Yes. Let everyone use as much bandwidth as they want until you're saturated.
      When people are contesting for bandwidth, then you start parceling it out.

    25. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by pnutjam · · Score: 0

      I'd like a citation for that claim. I haven't heard it before, the false flag stuff.

    26. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      I love how you think the connection you can get at home for personal use at $50/month is just as fast as the connection Sony uses to upload their content to the internet. I doubt Sony's marketing employees are anywhere near as slow as 1 gigabit.

    27. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah because the computer Sony uses to upload marketing materials is no better than your HP piece of shit. Damn you're fucking stupid.

    28. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      You underestimate the greed of corporations like Sony. These are according to their delusions 11.000 people who would have spent 20 bucks each to watch that movie in a theater.

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    29. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Not sure why I'm replying, but it's actually a pretty good workstation - and almost certainly better than whatever Sony's marketing intern uses to upload social media crap.

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    30. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Really? You think their summer intern posting 2 minute trailers to Youtube is being held back by gigabit speeds? Alrighty then.

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      W..w..W - Willy Waterloo washes Warren Wiggins who is washing Waldo Woo.
    31. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I doubt a 2 minute YouTube video requires a fatter pipe than 1gbps to do one's job effectively. That's not a business case.

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      W..w..W - Willy Waterloo washes Warren Wiggins who is washing Waldo Woo.
    32. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I didn't say it wasn't "okay", Watson. I said it wasn't "conservative". It's the highest likely speed.

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    33. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by sexconker · · Score: 1

      You can search Slashdot for The Shadow Brokers.
      A year or so ago, they dumped a whole buttload of tools and exploit kits that our intelligence agencies use to hack shit. A lot of it was centered around making it look like the attacks had come from specific countries.

    34. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by Raenex · · Score: 1

      According to MPAA logic, every pirated copy equals one million copies so this mistake means they lost 50 quazillion dollars

      That's the downside of torrents. It makes everybody that uses them a distributor as opposed to just a single infringement. It's prohibitively expensive to sue everybody that just watches something on YouTube for a minimal amount of damages.

    35. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will you get 5 Gbps or 2.5 Gbps? The former is available on some gaming laptop. The latter might be in some wifi routers.

      Oh, the retail website I usually check things on does sell a couple switches now (one with eight 2.5 Gbps ports) and I've learnt it's called 802.3bz.
      The website doesn't reference 2.5 and 5 gigs NICs per se. But the cheapest 10 gig NIC, and only it, is said in the description to support 2.5 and 5. It's an Asus for consumers, Asus XG-C100C.

      So, I'm impressed to find this available. I find the technology interesting (basically 10GBase-T is a commercial failure of sorts, so they slowed it down to make it more useful!) but it's been very low key.
      Now, it says it needs CAT5e so perhaps will not do if you're on regular CAT5 (maybe works on short runs anyway)

    36. Re: Maybe I'm cynical... by antdude · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't the trailers also be compressed heavily to H264?

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    37. Re: Maybe I'm cynical... by Peter+P+Peters · · Score: 1

      It was you wasn't it

    38. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a cow. Cows say moo. MOOOOOOO! MOOOOOOOO! Moo cows MOOOOOO! Moo say the cows. YOU SEXCONKER COW!!

    39. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      And you think the person who has access to their unreleased movies and is responsible for posting official trailers to youtube is a summer intern? Alrighty then. Wow.

    40. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a cow. Cows say moo. MOOOOOO! MOOOOOO! Moo cows MOOOOOO! Moo say the cows. YOU SEXCONKER COW!!

    41. Re:Maybe I'm cynical... by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      It's not unreleased. IMDB Is your friend. It's a crappy direct-to-Bluray movie from last November.

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  7. Obligitory Nelson by TheDarkener · · Score: 1

    Ha, ha!

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    It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
    1. Re:Obligitory Nelson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And also, just to stay current: WOMP WOMP!

    2. Re:Obligitory Nelson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      womp womp? This is the first generation that is so stupid and embarrassing they make every past generation look cool in comparison, and nearly impossible for future ones to be worse.

      "Womp womp", he said to his touch-phone on the way to Starbucks; a 30-year-old child searching for Pokoman with his bald faggot head.

    3. Re:Obligitory Nelson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't ever go to reddit if you think that's bad. It's basically the world's autistic landfill. Every lonely, pedantic, obsessive weirdo piece of shit in one place. All of them going "THIS!" and repeating themselves all day.

    4. Re:Obligitory Nelson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      he said to his touch-phone on the way to Starbucks; a 30-year-old child searching for Pokoman with his bald faggot head.

      You can't imagine how far off you are, you angry obese incel Linux user.

    5. Re:Obligitory Nelson by fisted · · Score: 1

      This.

    6. Re:Obligitory Nelson by sexconker · · Score: 1

      It was popularized by the show Archer. It's a sad, defeated tone. Imagine a sad Charlie Brown trombone saying it. Or imagine the failure / loss sound from The Price Is Right.

  8. still Piracy and they can sue people who downloade by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 0

    still Piracy and they can sue people who downloaded it or at least try to bully them into an copyright settlement

  9. Dam I must forgot to set the PPV movie flag! by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Dam I must forgot to set the PPV movie flag!

  10. For Free? by Zorro · · Score: 1

    I still don't care and won't watch it.

    1. Re:For Free? by easyTree · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Sony are going to have to try harder than this to get people to watch their movies.

  11. What about the copyright? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I assume that, because of the TOS, now the copyright for the movie belongs to, or is fully shared, with Google?

    1. Re: What about the copyright? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends. You can choose a license when you upload.

  12. Re:still Piracy and they can sue people who downlo by bogaboga · · Score: 1

    still Piracy and they can sue people who downloaded it

    And how exactly will they prove a particular person downloaded it? I know of a place where a single IP is shared among several folks between two floors of a huge apartment complex.

    And BTW, since when has an IP been deemed a person?

  13. Re: still Piracy and they can sue people who downl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nope. The company distributed it themselves.

  14. New definition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Khali the Killer" see Epic Fail?

  15. "I don't understand why..." by rnturn · · Score: 4, Funny

    "...uploading this trailer is taking so long... I'm going out for a latte."

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    1. Re:"I don't understand why..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Honestly, that's probably exactly what happened. Well, they clicked upload, and immediately stepped out for a latte for 105 minutes.

    2. Re:"I don't understand why..." by Peter+P+Peters · · Score: 1

      "...uploading this trailer is taking so long... I'm going out for a latte."

      I'm not sure about Sony, but media production tends to own some high bandwidth shit. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony have peering straight into Google at Gb speeds. So this could've been all done in a minute or two.

  16. "Accidentially", just like all that music before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, riiight!

    I remember them being caught, deliberately uploading their entire music collection since it raised their profits (aka how much they leech off of artists, the fuckin' thieves)!

  17. Re: still Piracy and they can sue people who downl by BronsCon · · Score: 1

    Exactly. This is piracy the same way watching a movie on Netflix is piracy: it's not.

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  18. Re: still Piracy and they can sue people who downl by dknj · · Score: 1

    I can understand copyright infringement when a movie is still in the theaters. However, once the video is made available to you, you are free to make a backup copy for your own purposes. No one knows when or how you made the backup. *hint*, *hint*

    Free loophole for everyone to exploit.. kinda like reprogramming DirecTV cards. Enjoy it now, this all goes away within the next 10 years when blockchain DRM becomes the norm

    -dk

  19. Trailers Today... by lys1123 · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is exactly why I hate seeing trailers these days... they practically spoil the whole movie!

    1. Re:Trailers Today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Congrats! You just won the, "Couldn't even bother to read the summary" award!

    2. Re:Trailers Today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congradulations! You entirely failed to fathom his humor. Good job!

    3. Re:Trailers Today... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the not-reading-summary award is a tie.

  20. Re: still Piracy and they can sue people who downl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nope. The company distributed it themselves.

    You can watch it, but you can't legally download it.

    You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, or otherwise exploit any Content for any other purposes without the prior written consent of YouTube or the respective licensors of the Content.

  21. Re: still Piracy and they can sue people who downl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's just a technicality.

  22. Re: still Piracy and they can sue people who downl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no distinction between watching it and downloading. From a server perspective it is the same. Hint, you have to download to watch.

  23. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

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  24. In case you missed the Promo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    “After deciding to retire, an East L.A. hit man decides to take one last job to help support his ailing grandmother’s end of life care. But everything falls apart, when he develops empathy for the targets of his hit, and he’s forced to make the toughest decision of his life,” - Sony Promo

    After reading the promo, I'm not even interested in watching the trailer.

  25. MPAA ACT NOW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They just pirated a movie and uploaded it to YouTube. Go get em!

  26. Re: still Piracy and they can sue people who downl by Altrag · · Score: 1

    Depends on the judge and whether they determine that simply uploading the file to YouTube constitutes a carte blanche license to the entire world. I suspect it probably doesn't. I mean it's probably grey enough that Sony wouldn't bother pursuing it (especially since it would be nearly impossible to identify "infringers") and it is their fault after all but if for some crazyassed reason, they did decide to take it to a judge.. I wouldnt put a whole lot of faith in the judge deeming it a legal licensing.

  27. People actually care? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People actually care enough to bother watching this crap?

  28. Or not cynical enough... by TiggertheMad · · Score: 1

    Maybe I'm cynical... but I wouldn't be surprised if this was done on purpose to get people talking about the movie that otherwise no one would have heard of.

    Ah, but by doing this, they have finally released a movie that won't get pirated. TAKE THAT, INTERWABZ PIRATES!

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  30. Love the old trailers by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    It used to be the case that trailers were separately-produced promotional shorts. It was slightly before my time, but I think my favorite is the one Hitchcock did for The Birds...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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  31. Re:still Piracy and they can sue people who downlo by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    The various frivolous lawsuits surrounding copyright claims in the past 20 or so years have passed you by?

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  32. Sony's getting pretty desperate by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Guess this movie must be their rock-bottom, now they can't even rely on torrents anymore to get their movies distributed, they even have to do that themselves now. Talk about desperation!

    But it kinda tells you something if even for free only about 11k people gave a fuck. There are literally movies that aren't even worth the time it takes to watch them, let alone pay to see them.

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  33. Re: still Piracy and they can sue people who downl by BronsCon · · Score: 1

    No, it's pretty cut and dry. Copyright infringement occurs when an unauthorized party makes a copy. By uploading to YouTube, you agree, as per YouTube's terms of use, to authorize them to distribute the content.

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  34. w00t! by Snotnose · · Score: 1

    I can finally talk about a movie with my friends the weekend it's released!

  35. Trailer ad? by backslashdot · · Score: 1

    Maybe itâ(TM)s a movie to advertise the trailer

  36. I even have their tools archived. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I made it a habit to always archive leaked state/corporate malware.

  37. Re: still Piracy and they can sue people who downl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I assume Sony has the rights to distribute the movie. Even if they don't (other production companies etc) they are committing the main infringement. In this case watching it is dubious, but it can be argued that a normal consumer has no reason to doubt or could know that a movie uploaded on an official Sony account is in any way dubious.

  38. Torrentfreak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Torrentfreak isn't a "we." It's a guy named Andy who runs a clickbait blog from his living room and sources everything he writes from Reddit.