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Chinese Smartphone Maker Xiaomi Says It is Working To Enter the US Market Next Year (reuters.com)

China's Xiaomi is pressing ahead with plans to enter the United States next year, saying its U.S. connections should help the consumer-focused smartphone maker skirt the political resistance met by some of its compatriot rivals. From a report: Senior Vice President Wang Xiang told Reuters on Tuesday that the U.S. market was "very attractive" and that the firm was adding engineering resources to develop versions of its handsets that are compatible with U.S. cellphone networks. "Next year we hope we can do something there," Wang said, adding talks with U.S. carriers are yet to produce concrete agreements.

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  1. They're good by war4peace · · Score: 1

    Xiaomi is a good brand with nice phones however I personally like Oppo more.

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    1. Re:They're good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup I just bought a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro and it's the best price/performance/features I could find. I'm very happy with it!

    2. Re:They're good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Redmig?

    3. Re:They're good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Next time you astroturf, do it when 99% of the US isn't celebrating a holiday.

    4. Re:They're good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      why should anyone give a shit that the US is having a holiday? The US does give a shit about anyone else either. out of interest what holiday is it in the US?

    5. Re:They're good by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      My only though when reading this headline was, "Really? The USA doesn't have Xiaomi yet?"

      "Here I am in second-world Europe enjoying my 128Gb Mi Mix 2 and they don't get them?"

      LOL!

      I guess they can blame their President's trade policies for that.

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    6. Re:They're good by I'm+just+joshin · · Score: 1

      Nah, it's the multi-band support needed for the various US carriers. The Mi Mix 2 is a fantastic phone, and rare with such wide band support.

      I have it running Lineage and have it working for both AT&T and Verizon (data only).

    7. Re:They're good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? the pure arrogance in your post is amazing. I bet you do not know when most countries have their national holidays.

    8. Re:They're good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So obviously you are well informed. So tell me without looking up on the internet when is Australia Day? Anzac Day? Orangeman's day? Russia Day? Victory Day? Fatherland heroes day? Norways Constitution day? etc. congratz if you know them all, would bet 99.9% of people don't and calling someone ignorant if you don't know them all is the height of hypocrisy.

    9. Re:They're good by delt0r · · Score: 1

      I just got one. For 5x less than a equivalent i whatever, with a longer battery life and every feature of the expensive phone. In fact i don't understand why people pay 5x more for .. well nothing extra. Oh and i can flash it to stock android as well.

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  2. Optimistic at best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the middle of a trade war? Are you serious, Xiaomi?

    1. Re:Optimistic at best by bn-7bc · · Score: 1

      They will be fine as long as they dont sell to sny country on the us embargo lust, this is what ZTE did vrong (amongst other thing) when you are dependent on US components (oe components that bclude IP from any US company don’t do buisness with countries on that list, yes you might fnd your products facing an import tax put at least you will not see your suply of components cut off

    2. Re:Optimistic at best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There is no way this company or any other company with Chinese ties will be entering the US market any time soon. Unless China finds a way to appease the US government over the rampant IP theft and the ownership conditions placed on US companies operating in the China market. Congress already put a stop to Trump giving ZTE a chance to re-enter the US market and in their zeal to manacle Trump they have made it politically impossible to be seen accommodating anything Chinese related. Congress has also made it impossible for the US to entertain better relations with Russia. Although Russia is a non-player on the global stage when compared to the US, China, India, Japan, or even Israel. The state of California has a higher GDP than Russia.

    3. Re:Optimistic at best by Zorpheus · · Score: 1

      You can buy Xiaomi phones all over the world, e.g. on ebay or Amazon. It says they just design a phone that is compatible to the US market. What is gonna stop them from offering it?
      This thought really baffles me, but I guess with the American networks incompatible to the global GSM standard you have a quite limited number of phone suppliers.
      Well, here in Europe many people get their phone with the contract, and they also have a limited supply from only a few companies. I mostly bought my phones separately because of more choices and less cost traps in prepaid tariffs, which make it cheaper in the end. My smartphones were all dual-sim phones, which you don't get with a contract. You can get dual-sim versions of nearly all phones on the market, which many people are not aware of. They are sold officially in certain countries, e.g. Brasil, and get bought and sold elsewhere by small vendors.

    4. Re:Optimistic at best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no trade war, just companies that hasn't paid for Trump "protection".

    5. Re:Optimistic at best by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Congress has also made it impossible for the US to entertain better relations with Russia. Although Russia is a non-player on the global stage when compared to the US, China, India, Japan, or even Israel. The state of California has a higher GDP than Russia.

      I was going to say "and nothing of value was lost", but you got there first. The cost of doing business with Russia is doing business with Russia, and it's not worth it.

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  3. Bribes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Don't forget to bribe Trump, or you will never get into the US market.

  4. somehow by guygo · · Score: 1

    gotta get those backdoors out there somehow!

    1. Re:somehow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe if you're a government employee or are working in other sensitive areas of the private sector that's a serious concern. But seriously, as a regular consumer living in the West, why should I be worried if the Chinese get my data? What are they going to do with that? Blackmail me? What's their leverage here in the West?
      Of course it would be best if no one spied on us. But unless they share it with my those that can affect me in more profound ways than through advertising, like the government and institution of our own state, there isn't much to fear. And Xiaomi does make pretty nice Android smartphones if you consider their price.

    2. Re:somehow by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Don't think Melania's even letting him in the front door.

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    3. Re:somehow by fafalone · · Score: 2

      Well that's a given. But would you rather have Chinese backdoors, or NSA/CIA backdoors? If someone is going to backdoor my device, I'd rather it be the Chinese, as I care quite a bit less about what they'll do with my data. Obviously if 'no backdoors' was an option that would be even better; but come on, it's 2018. As we celebrate our nations birth today in America, most of our government continues, on both sides, to wipe their ass with our Constitution as they shit all over the principles this nation was founded on.

    4. Re:somehow by guygo · · Score: 0

      Ever hear of The Red Guard? The Cultural Revolution maybe? People subjected to years of torture and hard labor for being a teacher? The forced relocation of millions of citizens, killing many and destroying families in perpetuity? But yeah, those incompetent money-changers in Washington are worse, so much worse. All hail President-for-Life Xi.

    5. Re:somehow by fafalone · · Score: 0

      Ah yes, the 'everyone who isn't as bad as x is good' argument. Like we should accept our government abusing our rights because they're not as bad as those other governments. The mass incarceration of nonviolent offenders, mass surveillance of the population, rampant civil rights abuses by police... it's all good because we don't have death camps. Wonderful.

    6. Re:somehow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Political retards in america can ruin your life quicker and more thoroughly than political retards in china.

    7. Re:somehow by guygo · · Score: 0

      Never said we should accept; putting words in others mouth is always SUCH a good way to present your argument. But until I see DC lining people up for re-education/relocation I am using orders of magnitude to differentiate between the two. If you wish to see the world in an Aristotlean value system that is your choice. Others see spectra.

    8. Re:somehow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But did they come to the US or even Europe to abduct people for relocation, killing, and torture?
      That's the question you've got to ask yourself as a Westerner. What can they do to YOU in particular if they have your data. And now compare that to what the NSA/CIA could do to you if they have access to your data? Of course if you were Chinese and living in China it would be the other way around.

    9. Re:somehow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are also part of the Android One program.

    10. Re:somehow by fafalone · · Score: 0

      If not to suggest we shouldn't be complaining, then what's the point of bringing up the distinction? That's the general implication of that kind of argument, "Well, we've got it good compared to others, so be happy with what we have." You say you're not making that argument, but haven't offered an alternative explanation. Incarcerating millions for sentences wildly disproportionate to the crime on a failed moral crusade, police routinely beating and sometimes killing people who don't pose a threat along with widescale legalized theft from people not even arrested, spying on everyone with our agencies going so far as to re-route domestic traffic over overseas links to bypass restrictions on surveillance, spending trillions on foreign wars of aggression during which civilians are intentionally killed because they're near a drone target... the list goes on. However worse death marches and mass starvation are, these are fundamentally still evil, and are due vociferous opposition (and if you don't think I see the spectrum, never have I called for the kind of armed, violent revolution that would be called for if there were things like death camps).

    11. Re:somehow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      which backdoors are those? because thisis a chinese company selling you a phone it must have a backdoor?

    12. Re:somehow by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Just like the NSA and GCHQ?

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    13. Re:somehow by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      Would, say, the government of Iceland have been able to do that *in New Zealand*? No, but it could do it in Iceland.

      You're totally missing the point.

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    14. Re:somehow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The best thing an American patriot could do is purchase a Chinese phone. Anything to make NSA job a little more difficult. Kaspersky, Xiaomi. Let them take the velvet gloves off.

    15. Re:somehow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heard of the wars in Libya and Syria? That's what the US does. Hundreds of thousands people killed by Al Qaeda/FSA/et al. terrorists funded and armed by the USA and Saudi, millions of refugees, ruin and starvation, and a million who got cholera in Yemen too. All in the 2010s, not the 50s or 60s.
      And I hope you heard of life under the rule of "rebels". Torture, executions, starvation, shooting escapees, Taliban levels of bigotry, extermination of non-Sunni and non-Muslim.
      This is what the US war machine, corporate media, CIA and letter agencies stand for.

      The human rights record can be another reason to choose Chinese backdoors over US/NATO/Israel/Five Eyes.

    16. Re:somehow by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Well that's a given. But would you rather have Chinese backdoors, or NSA/CIA backdoors? If someone is going to backdoor my device, I'd rather it be the Chinese, as I care quite a bit less about what they'll do with my data.

      What causes you to imagine that they won't sell your data to your own government?

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  5. Ted Nugent by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    Senior Vice President Wang Xiang

    For some reason, I'm thinking about Ted Nugent.

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    1. Re:Ted Nugent by WindBourne · · Score: 0

      Why? Is Xiang a pedophile as well? Somehow, I doubt it.

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    2. Re:Ted Nugent by youngone · · Score: 1

      Maybe he means Mr. Xiang is an absolute fuckwit.

  6. JUST SAY NO by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    Seriously, they are no different than huawei. Nix them.

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    1. Re:JUST SAY NO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We can't compete we can't compete. Trump save us !!! Put up a tariff please !!
      Trump: I'll go one better and just ban them.

    2. Re:JUST SAY NO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously, they are no different than huawei. Nix them.

      You mean that they support rooting of the device and installing an alternative OS and even provides guides on how to do so and if you want to, how to restore to their image if you want to still get support after having rooted your phone?

      Xiaomi might be bad but they are not nearly as bad as any of the competitors.

  7. I have one. by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 2

    I've got a Xiaomi Max 2 from Banggood.com, I think. 5.3A battery, large screen, battery lasts SOT for a day (that's 24 hours SOT) and not on minimal brightness. Charges up in 3 hours or less. There's a few add-ons, I've activated all of them. I would have added in APKs if they were missing.

    The ONLY thing it doesn't do is run on the Verizon network -- wrong frequencies. It works fine on WiFi and VoiP, and I have a small Verizon hotspot that fits in my pocket as well. (That's slightly annoying, but the phone makes up for it.)

    Samsung should be worried. Apple might be worried, but their users are addicts anyway, so probably not.

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    1. Re:I have one. by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 1

      what is SOT? I even tried to look it up. Yep I think I fail. Or someone did.

    2. Re:I have one. by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Yes the days of 50% to 100% US and South Korean brand price profit is over.
      China will do near at cost to build their own new brand names.

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    3. Re:I have one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep - I've had an MI5 with 128 GB for several years, and I'm very happy with it. I bought it in Beijing, which means it comes with a lot of tie-in to the Chinese environment, but Xiaomi have a policy of letting people root their phones and give you an international version of their MIUI as well. This one has two SIM slots, which is great, since I travel to China a lot; I don't recall the price, but it was quite cheap.

    4. Re:I have one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nowadays in my opinion the Xiaomi MI A1 is the best sub 300$ phone, good specs and google Android one so it receives fast google security updates

  8. Bribe The President by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Grease the President's palms, either directly or indirectly. Worked for ZTE!

  9. As long as the Chinese Govt ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As long as the Chinese Govt doesn't own it, stops hacking US companies, and all the phone-home + backdoors are removed, great.

    Oh, and they should have to provide 51% of ownership in the US company to US citizens and transfer all their technology to US companies. You know, like the demand from US companies trying to do business in China.

  10. Business Model? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 2

    I wonder if there would be a market for a US company that was "beyond reproach" whose business was to certify foreign tech as being "safe"?

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    1. Re:Business Model? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I wonder if there would be a market for a US company that was "beyond reproach" whose business was to certify foreign tech as being "safe"?

      In short, no. Nobody is dumb enough to believe such a thing could exist.

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  11. Screen On Time by CaffeinatedBacon · · Score: 1

    Screen On Time. How long the screen is on.

  12. I also have one. by Ecuador · · Score: 1

    I went from the Samsung S4 to the Xiaomi Mi4. What a breath of fresh air, at a third the price of a Samsung flagship, top hardware, good and updated software stac etc. So went on to the Mi5, and, since I travel to the US now and then, I switched to the Mi Mix 2 last year when it came out, as it supports all the T-Mobile US LTE bands among others. That was a bit more expensive (about $500) than the regular flagship series, but it is the first Android phone I've had that got me excited (so far it has been - nice, but my Nokia N9 Meego was exciting). Note that Xiaomi is not a run-of-the-mill Chinese manufacturer, they are sometimes compared (by people not very familiar with them) to Oppo or even Huawei etc, but Xiaomi has a focus on quality which rivals non-Chinese companies, while still keeping their prices low. In effect, they are very hard to beat in quality/dollar.
    The negatives: No OLED screens yet - but good LCD screens. Their flagships sometimes don't have the best cameras (so if it matters check which model has what) and tend to not have removable storage/battery (but often give you dual sim at least) and headphone jack comes in a dongle. Some people list their MIUI as a negative, but the majority considers it a positive.

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  13. I've installed LineageOS on one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You go to their web site and download an app that downloads an alternative open boot loader and deploys it to your phone. You need to register an account with them and fill up a 3 fields form asking for the whos and whys (name, phone number and an open text box asking you why you want to unlock you phone).

    I wrote "I want to install LineageOS on my phone" and they approved my request in less then a day.

    My understanding about this procedure is that they want to make sure only the person who owns the phone can make modifications to it AND to void the warranty per phone serial number. It looked crazy at the time but then the news about the CIA intercepting CISCO delivers and planting backdoors came to view so I got less hang up about it. Sad times when a small Chinese company not remotely known for any security features is more concerned about people's privacy then almost everyone else.

    Btw, they're pretty open source friendly regardless. Like, their launcher and apps are all open source and GPLed to boot... To compare, Google hasn't opened their custom launchers (Now and Pixel). So that puts them right on top next to Google and even slightly above Google in many respects.

  14. They're rapidly expanding thorought Europe by iampiti · · Score: 1

    They're opening stores all over Europe and where I live (Spain) it's not very common to see stores for a single brand. Of the top of my head only Apple does it. Samsung has sections inside malls/phone stores but AFAIK no exclusive stores.
    It certainly seems they're doing very well though I wonder if they have any help or ties with the Chinese government