Thanks for proving my point. By you speaking more, you proved how irrational and infeasible your position is. Maybe not to yourself, but to those reading this discussion.
Ideas want to be free. Using force to quash them serves only to make them more attractive. Showing their foolishness, like what was done to the KKK, is far more effective.
And who do you propose do the work to support said software? The PHP folk 'only' support the last three major versions. Which will be 7.1, 7.2, and 7.3 come December. Support for 5.6 had already been extended for an extra year.
Biil, don't be a douche throwing out a hostile term like "weasel word".to try and hide that you don't know what you're talking about.
For the record, I'm including when we looked at Windows NT in the 1997 time frame (pre-acquisition, but when some early conversations were happening) to see if it was feasible. It very much wasn't..But then, neither was Linux. Or a foolish attempt by a greybeard brought in late who wanted to port everything to Java. We tried lots of things to keep afloat and get off the bleeding edge.
As to the Sunnyvale data center, we had no such thing. We were colo'd at Best Internet (who had chicken wire and plywood separating their customers), and then we moved to Exodus's Wyatt and then Lawson facilities.
But you go find your pretty little pictures. I'll tell the real story of what happened.
Like when Exodus's PR folk did a photo shoot to show off our new cluster layout. Unfortunately, they used high intensity flashes, which EMP'd some of our gear.
We were profitable from the opt-in subscriptions "web courier" and ads we had. Not very profitable, but still better than pretty much the rest of the industry at the time.
That's not true. When the first real attempts to use Windows machines as Hotmail front end boxes was attempted, the Windows servers were within 10% for raw performance. However, managing them was a clusterfuck of the first order. We were ahead of our time with code distribution, being able to take bad servers out of production, get new ones provisioned and the like.
We'd have needed 20x more sys admins, not 20x more servers.
The Windows team was not responsive to this problem until my team and I lobbed a nuke to Gates about how a conversion wasn't going to happen until the Windows team got their shit in order.
Bah. I had root@rocketmail.com and sysadmin@rocketmail.com.
We were a Solaris site from the start. Then a FreeBSD/Solaris site. And right after I left Hotmail was a Windows / Solaris site. A few years later, the last of the Solaris backend servers were retired.
I was the first SysAdmin for Hotmail. Everything you said is wrong.
The backend servers and mail servers were Solaris. The front end servers were FreeBSD.
The original code was Perl. This was before FreeBSD was rolled out. By the time FreeBSD was introduced, pretty much everything was coded in C.
The Windows migration was my last straw. They didn't perform worse on the front end, but the management was miserable and MSFT's Windows team were completely unsupportive until there was a massive flame going from my team up.
I used to manage a Big-Endian Gentoo distribution for the Linksys NSLU.
I built binary packages for it on bigger hardware since 32MB wasn't enough. Though the 128MB FatSlug did decently. As decently as a 166mhz ARM 5 could.
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Never mind, missed seeing you refer to it. A new MB is in the cards either way. May as well accept that.
What about Threadripper?
If PP charged lower merchant fees, they might. But they don't. So they haven't.
Guess they should have realized they were pricing themselves out of the market earlier.
Except for a lack of TRIM support, and a few too many quriky bugs from the still rapidly changing code base.
Thanks for proving my point. By you speaking more, you proved how irrational and infeasible your position is. Maybe not to yourself, but to those reading this discussion.
Ideas want to be free. Using force to quash them serves only to make them more attractive. Showing their foolishness, like what was done to the KKK, is far more effective.
I do.
And I'm a firm believer that the cure to hate or other bad speech is more speech, not less.
Speaking of hysterical...look at the protestors.
And who do you propose do the work to support said software? The PHP folk 'only' support the last three major versions. Which will be 7.1, 7.2, and 7.3 come December. Support for 5.6 had already been extended for an extra year.
Nah, it's the multi-band support needed for the various US carriers. The Mi Mix 2 is a fantastic phone, and rare with such wide band support.
I have it running Lineage and have it working for both AT&T and Verizon (data only).
After 70 years, I expect to be moving slower too.
The timing correlates with a drop in attacks on our servers.
Block away Vlad, block away.
Yes. Net Neutrality Round 2 will be against Google, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and so on.
At least they're being honest about it now.
Exactly. Stupid clickbait.
Biil, don't be a douche throwing out a hostile term like "weasel word".to try and hide that you don't know what you're talking about.
For the record, I'm including when we looked at Windows NT in the 1997 time frame (pre-acquisition, but when some early conversations were happening) to see if it was feasible. It very much wasn't..But then, neither was Linux. Or a foolish attempt by a greybeard brought in late who wanted to port everything to Java. We tried lots of things to keep afloat and get off the bleeding edge.
As to the Sunnyvale data center, we had no such thing. We were colo'd at Best Internet (who had chicken wire and plywood separating their customers), and then we moved to Exodus's Wyatt and then Lawson facilities.
But you go find your pretty little pictures. I'll tell the real story of what happened.
Like when Exodus's PR folk did a photo shoot to show off our new cluster layout. Unfortunately, they used high intensity flashes, which EMP'd some of our gear.
We were profitable from the opt-in subscriptions "web courier" and ads we had. Not very profitable, but still better than pretty much the rest of the industry at the time.
Hey Bill,
That's not true. When the first real attempts to use Windows machines as Hotmail front end boxes was attempted, the Windows servers were within 10% for raw performance. However, managing them was a clusterfuck of the first order. We were ahead of our time with code distribution, being able to take bad servers out of production, get new ones provisioned and the like.
We'd have needed 20x more sys admins, not 20x more servers.
The Windows team was not responsive to this problem until my team and I lobbed a nuke to Gates about how a conversion wasn't going to happen until the Windows team got their shit in order.
Bah. I had root@rocketmail.com and sysadmin@rocketmail.com.
We were a Solaris site from the start. Then a FreeBSD/Solaris site. And right after I left Hotmail was a Windows / Solaris site. A few years later, the last of the Solaris backend servers were retired.
No. Microsoft neglecting the product to try and make $ off the user base is what killed Hotmail's reputation. And caused many of us to leave.
I was the first SysAdmin for Hotmail. Everything you said is wrong.
The backend servers and mail servers were Solaris. The front end servers were FreeBSD.
The original code was Perl. This was before FreeBSD was rolled out. By the time FreeBSD was introduced, pretty much everything was coded in C.
The Windows migration was my last straw. They didn't perform worse on the front end, but the management was miserable and MSFT's Windows team were completely unsupportive until there was a massive flame going from my team up.
Newsweek sold for $1 a few years ago. It already failed.
I used to manage a Big-Endian Gentoo distribution for the Linksys NSLU.
I built binary packages for it on bigger hardware since 32MB wasn't enough. Though the 128MB FatSlug did decently. As decently as a 166mhz ARM 5 could.
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Pretty impossible right now.. They have it locked down fairly tight, and are quick to close holes.
It was a pain to get working, but has been fantastic.
I lose about 5% performance from virtualizing everything. Obviously, when gaming, I have the load from the other stuff turned down.