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How Cheap Smartphones Siphon User Data in Developing Countries (wsj.com)

Newley Purnell, reporting for WSJ: For millions of people buying inexpensive smartphones in developing countries where privacy protections are usually low, the convenience of on-the-go internet access could come with a hidden cost: preloaded apps that harvest users' data without their knowledge. One such app, included on thousands of Chinese-made Singtech P10 smartphones sold in Myanmar and Cambodia, sends the owner's location and unique-device details to a mobile-advertising firm in Taiwan called General Mobile, or GMobi. The app also has appeared on smartphones sold in Brazil and those made by manufacturers based in China and India, security researchers say.

Taipei-based GMobi, with a subsidiary in Shanghai, says it uses the data to show targeted ads on the devices. It also sometimes shares the data with device makers to help them learn more about their customers. "If end users want a free internet service, he or she needs to suffer a little for better targeting ads," said a GMobi spokeswoman. [...] GMobi is one of several entities using the combination of low-cost smartphones and low regulations to siphon off reams of user data. Shanghai-based Adups and Indian digital advertising firm MoMagic offer similar firmware-updating services in partnership with smartphone makers.

40 comments

  1. Yes, this only happens in poor countries. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I swear, it only happens in poor countries. See, see how bad off they are! Don't look at me like that. I'm totally not siphoning data off of first world users. Nope. Can't happen here. No way.

    1. Re:Yes, this only happens in poor countries. by forkfail · · Score: 2

      In a developing nation, it is still necessary to steal data.

      In a first world nation, people fall over themselves in their hurry to give their data away.

      Funny thing, that.

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    2. Re: Yes, this only happens in poor countries. by bobmagicii · · Score: 1

      âoesays it uses the data to show targeted ads on the devices.âoe because people in developing areas using the cheapest of devices are going to have so much spare currency left over to spend at the places being advertised to them. how is that even an effective business model?

    3. Re: Yes, this only happens in poor countries. by tsa · · Score: 1

      Sending spam is nearly free. So if only 0.1% falls for the trap, money is made.

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    4. Re: Yes, this only happens in poor countries. by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Nah. People freely give away boring data. Like photos of their lunch.

      For the interesting data - location history, call history, contents of your messages, live mic/camera feeds - they still have to collect it surreptitiously.

      At this point, pretty much everyone knows that Big Brother Google is always watching, and that Creepy Facebook just wants to stalk you. They don't even hide their data slurping anymore.

      But there are dozens of other companies that make their money by snooping and stealing your data. Try the Exodus Privacy scanner - it's FOSS - for some enlightening results. https://exodus-privacy.eu.org/

  2. Re: Everybody knows.. by Hylandr · · Score: 4, Funny

    I hear the new phones have electrolytes.

    It's what RF craves.

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  3. What makes you think it's just apps? by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do I or do I not remember some stories posted here in the past discussing how there was spyware/malware baked right into the firmware and/or OS of some phones, right from the factory? Essentially undetectable without, I dunno, JTAG access to the phones' Flash memory? If I'm right, what makes anyone think that it's just mere 'Apps' that are surveilling people who have phones from any number of sources?

    1. Re:What makes you think it's just apps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You might be thinking about the base-band chip and SIM. The base-band has separate, proprietary OS running with hypervisor below the phone OS, and yes - it has been shown to have data exposure capabilities in the past ...

      People seem not to care about this, but are probably programmed by IR photons to "not care about this." As for myself - no phone in about 10 years, and glad for it.

    2. Re: What makes you think it's just apps? by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

      Observe this clever disinformation technique:

      First the disinfo operator states some true but inconvenient (to his employers) information. In this case mentioning the baseband radio with its factory-pwned, snooping-enabled OS.

      Then the disinfo operator spews out some batshit crazy nonsense. Here this new trope about deleterious effects of "photons" from IR-equipped surveillance cameras.

      By juxtaposing inconvenient truth with contrived nutty bullshit, the operation brings discredit to the former. Disinformation achieved!

    3. Re: What makes you think it's just apps? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One tin-foil hatter dumping on another tin-foil hatter as if some rando AC post was a grand conspiracy.
      Yerp! Yer a genius all right!!! #derderpderp

  4. These people still shit in the street for chrisake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How valuable can their "data" be?

  5. Conflict of interest by preflex · · Score: 2

    Never use the OS that came with your computer. There's too much conflict of interest. Hardware vendors always screw the user on the software side.

    It doesn't matter if the computer fits in your pocket. That's no excuse.

    If it came with Windows, do a clean install, or better yet, install a good Linux distro.

    If it came with Android, install AOSP, or Lineage (if you can't unlock the bootloader to do this, your computer is trash. Throw it in the garbage where it belongs).

    And then there's the Apples ... The logo tells you all you need to know. Would you buy fruit at the grocery store if the grocer already took a bite?

    1. Re:Conflict of interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm certain Siddarth's 75 year old grandmother is going to install Linux on her phone. That really sounds like something she would do.

    2. Re:Conflict of interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While you're at it, grow all your own food and make all your own clothes.

    3. Re:Conflict of interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The bite out of the apple is actually a small dish when seen in three dimensions. It is used to transmit hip thoughts into the brains of the Grocer's victims. Vape up and enjoy.

    4. Re:Conflict of interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good idea. It's one way to keep chemical additives out of your food and plastic fibers out of your clothing.

    5. Re:Conflict of interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      (if you can't unlock the bootloader to do this, your computer is trash. Throw it in the garbage where it belongs)

      Exactly. People shouldn't even consider buying a phone that can't have the bootloader unlocked. Better yet, just buy phones that have LineageOS official firmware already released.

    6. Re:Conflict of interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lulz. vapers, like harley riders, are fags.

    7. Re:Conflict of interest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lulz. vapers, like harley riders, are fags.

      murder a harley rider for trump!

  6. Re:These people still shit in the street for chris by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Versus you, who comes and shits here on /.

    Lessee. $0.10 per year from 1.1B people is still $110M per year.

    If you don't want a piece of that, I'm sure there are others who do.

  7. Re: Stupid fucking chinks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    damn son
    who put pee pee in your coke?

  8. Like always... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like always, you get what you pay for.

    In cases like this, the user probably has no idea what they are "getting" when they buy the cheap phone and cheap service.

    Except, even expensive phones and services still try to extract as much personal data as possible. Limiting how you use the device is probably the best protection.

  9. The lesson in all this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Farmville was the most aptly titled game ever. Only the animals being farmed were those playing the game.

    If you think this is just affecting poor people in third world countries, think again.

  10. Suffer a little by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "If end users want a free internet service, he or she needs to suffer a little for better targeting ads," said a GMobi spokeswoman.

    Customers suffering? So they've taken a play from the Trump administration's playbook, eh?

  11. A bit of yellow journalism by jbmartin6 · · Score: 2

    sends the owner's location and unique-device details to a mobile-advertising firm

    This is the same thing that happens on every other non-Apple smartphone. Yet the journalist goes to great lengths to imply this abuse has something to do with the poverty and supposedly less regulated environs of the customers.

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    1. Re:A bit of yellow journalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the same thing that happens on every other non-Apple smartphone.

      It might be more common than it should but to say that on any Android running phone location tracking for ads is rampant is a bit of a stretch.

    2. Re:A bit of yellow journalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Found the Apple religious nut. Keep drinking that tasty fruity kool-aid.

    3. Re:A bit of yellow journalism by jbmartin6 · · Score: 1

      The Google apps, which are on almost every Android phone, do it by default. Not even getting into anything else the carrier may have added, or all the other apps which do it. The story here is how the users are unaware of he price they pay for cheaper devices/access. But that is true anywhere, it's not an artifact of poor/unregulated like this article implies.

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  12. So, Google is allowed to, but no one else? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And if they do then we write stories in the WSJ and accuse them of spying and spreading malware, because that's how honest WSJ and America are.

  13. Unblocked version of article by Tim+Locke · · Score: 2

    Unblocked version on Toronto Star: https://www.thestar.com/busine...

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  14. beat that straw man harder! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet the journalist goes to great lengths to imply

    You must live a lonely life, as the only person capable of intelligence; you imply strongly that nobody else has a brain.

    1. Re: beat that straw man harder! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut up you gay faggot INCEL pedophile communist right-wing traitor antifa POOPY-HEAD!

    2. Re:beat that straw man harder! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet the journalist goes to great lengths to imply

      You must live a lonely life, as the only person capable of intelligence; you imply strongly that nobody else has a brain.

      I'm implying very strongly that you have schizophrenia and should seek treatment.

  15. usually low by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'developing countries, where privacy protection is usually low'... Do you know a place on earth where it is high ?

  16. anonymity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ever try to find a Li or Lee in a chinese phonebook? your friend, the leprechaun.

  17. Really? by CoolDiscoRex · · Score: 1
    For millions of people buying inexpensive smartphones in developing countries where privacy protections are usually low

    Goodness, it sure would suck to live in a country with low privacy protections. I bet they'd even let the manufacturer continue to control the phone even after they sold it to you, And install all kinds of stuff on your device that does things that you don't want it to do. And disallow you from uninstalling it. Or, even, prohibiting you from getting root on your very own computer!

    Nah, just kidding. There's noplace that backward.