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Firefox and the 4-Year Battle To Have Google To Treat It as a First-Class Citizen (zdnet.com)

Web monoculture is well and truly alive when Google cannot be bothered to make a full-featured cross-browser mobile search page. From a report: It has been over five years since Firefox really turned a corner and started to morph from its bloated memory-munching ways into the lightning-quick browser it is today. Buried in Mozilla's issue tracker is a bug that kicked off in February 2014, and is yet to be resolved: Have Google treat Firefox for Android as a first-class citizen and serve up comparable content to what the search giant hands Chrome and Safari. After years of requests, meetings, and to and fro, it has hit a point where the developers of Firefox are experimenting by manipulating the user agent string in its nightly development builds to trick Google into thinking that Firefox Mobile is a Chrome browser. Not only does Google's search page degrade for Firefox on Android, but some new properties like Google Flights have occasionally taken to outright blocking of the browser.

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  1. Re:dumbed down & inaccurate search results by Kaenneth · · Score: 4, Informative

    uhh, just put "quotes" around the mandatory words.

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22google...

  2. Re:dumbed down & inaccurate search results by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Google does this because the old search engines that didn't do it were all crap and died off.

    Google understands synonyms, acronyms and related concepts. It understands multiple languages and offers translation services so that you can too.

    Turns out, that is better than just vomiting out the results of a database query on the search terms in almost every case.

    Where it tends to fail is when someone tries to subvert it by using 1998-style search terms, e.g. "WORD1" AND "WORD2". Maybe they need a retro mode. Or try one of the following terrible search engines instead:

    http://www.excite.com/
    http://www.aliweb.com/

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  3. Re:dumbed down & inaccurate search results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Uhh quotes are broken too.

  4. Remember DR-DOS? Same thing - different players. by LaughingRadish · · Score: 4, Informative

    Does anyone remember how Microsoft played similar games with DR-DOS by deliberately making their programs crash, complain, or do strange things when said programs noticed that the operating system was DR-DOS rather than MS-DOS? It's the same thing but with different players.

  5. Re:dumbed down & inaccurate search results by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Informative

    uhh, just put "quotes" around the mandatory words.

    The problem: Google doesn't properly recognize boolean searches anymore. That's "" and/or/not/(), and so on. If you want specialized searches that adhere to boolean use bing, startpage, ddg, and so on. Google gives you the results it thinks you want, not what you're asking for.

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  6. Re:You are civically and historically incompetent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Because if you knew what you're talking about, you'd know that the progressive era anti-trust campaigns were started by REPUBLICAN Teddy Roosevelt.

    #fail

    Back to history class for you!

    And if YOU actually knew history, you would know:

    As Governor of New York, Roosevelt made a lot of waves with his anti-trust campaigns, and it really pissed off the Republicans. So, they came up with a plan to get rid of him.

    When William McKinley was running for president in 1900, the Republicans nominated Roosevelt for Vice President because it's a do-nothing job with no real authority to do anything. Making Roosevelt Vice President would put an end to his anti-trust activities.

    Unfortunately (for Republicans), McKinley died a month after taking office and Roosevelt became president.

  7. Re:dumbed down & inaccurate search results by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google gives you the results it thinks you want, not what you're asking for.

    No, Google gives you the results Google wants you to see, hoping they are close enough to what you were looking for that you do not realize the difference.

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