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Ex-Apple Worker Charged With Stealing Self-Driving Car Trade Secrets (reuters.com)

U.S. authorities on Monday charged a former Apple employee with theft of trade secrets, alleging that the person downloaded a secret blueprint related to a self-driving car to a personal laptop and later trying to flee the country, according to a criminal complaint filed in federal court. From a report: The complaint said that the former employee, Xiaolang Zhang, disclosed intentions to work for a Chinese self-driving car startup and booked a last-minute flight to China after downloading the plan for a circuit board for the self-driving car. Authorities arrested Zhang on July 7 at the San Jose airport after he passed through a security checkpoint. "Apple takes confidentiality and the protection of our intellectual property very seriously," Apple said in a statement. "We're working with authorities on this matter and will do everything possible to make sure this individual and any other individuals involved are held accountable for their actions."

54 comments

  1. Trump will not be charged with this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Most other things though are looking good. That punk ass traitor will die in Federal prison and never make it to his multiple state sentences.

    1. Re:Trump will not be charged with this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Are you still bad because he won, or because he is still #winning?

    2. Re: Trump will not be charged with this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Trump should tell Mueller to kiss his hairy ass and flee the country to Russia like Snowden did. Problem solved.

    3. Re: Trump will not be charged with this. by bobbied · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Trump should tell Mueller to kiss his hairy ass and flee the country to Russia like Snowden did. Problem solved.

      I agree, Trump should tell Mueller that... But Why flee the country if you've done nothing wrong?

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    4. Re: Trump will not be charged with this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because youâ(TM)ve done something wrong

    5. Re:Trump will not be charged with this. by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Most other things though are looking good. That punk ass traitor will die in Federal prison and never make it to his multiple state sentences.

      Actually an incident like this plays precisely into Trump's view of China. Watch his tariff program go into hyperdrive.

    6. Re:Trump will not be charged with this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      And are you still avoiding to take responsability for the fact that the U.S. is now governed by a child rapist, among other things, because of trumptards like you ?

      "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot someone, and I still wouldn't lose any voters". Yep, that pretty much sums up everything you need to know about Trump supporters.

    7. Re:Trump will not be charged with this. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Actually an incident like this plays precisely into Trump's view of China. Watch his tariff program go into hyperdrive.

      China is probably the only country Trump even kind of understands besides this one, because he does so much business there. As much as I personally hate the guy (and his policies on immigration, corporations, and the environment) he's not wrong about China on basically any level. The game is rigged, they do plan to run the world just like every other big nation, and tariffs (and their other business policies) are the problem.

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  2. Apple Police by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    The Apple Police scare me.

    1. Re:Apple Police by saloomy · · Score: 1

      Industrial espionage does not? What if it was a board or a program you had worked on and spent hours coding and engineering?

    2. Re:Apple Police by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Is it really that much of a secret to make a self driving car? Comma.ai did it. (And its open source.)

    3. Re:Apple Police by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      LOL. Its just apple. Any big secrets they had they stole from Google or Tesla.

    4. Re:Apple Police by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      Apple maps on a self-driving car scare me.

      Where the hell are we?
      I don't know, but aren't the car's rounded edges beautiful?

    5. Re:Apple Police by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if it was a board or a program Xiaolang Zhang had worked on and spent hours coding and engineering?

  3. Why I prefer PHP to Perl by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Hello Slashdot,

    Recently I've had a chance to do some web design with PHP. Previously I'd used Perl because I'd heard from many people that Perl was the end all and be all of scripting languages for the web. Imagine my suprise
    to discover that PHP was vastly superior! I know this is a bold statement, but I have solid arguements to support it.

    Before I begin, let me just clarify something. I'm not arguing that PHP is better than Perl in all cases. There is certainly still a use for Perl. Also, PHP isn't perfect but it does manage to fix many of the shortcomings I've had with Perl. Here are a few of the things I've noticed about PHP. Finally, I'm not the most talented Perl programmer out there. I generally prefer to use the vastly superior Python, but can use Perl if I have to.

    * Ease of use. After about a day I had an excellent understanding of both PHP and SQL. I was able to get a stable, useable and presentable website up within 24 hours of reading the basics of PHP. Learning Perl
    took me weeks and I'm still not even as good with it as I am with PHP. I would definitely not recommend anyone new to programming begin with Perl.

    * The OO of PHP is excellent. In my experience, it rivals Smalltalk. We all know that Perl's OO still needs work (whether or not OO is all that great is another discussion.) Hopefully Perl will be patched up so it supports such must-have OO features like introspection, reflection, self-replication and ontological data-points.

    * Outstanding database support. PHP supports virtually every DB under the sun (although Berkeley DB is missing, oddly enough.) Perl seems limited to MySQL and PostgreSQL, and its really a kludge for the later. I've heard that this will be fixed in upcoming versions of Perl though.

    * Speed. PHP is one of the fastest languages I've ever used. While it won't be replacing assembly or C, its definitely faster than Perl in almost every case, particularly in regex which has long been Perl's
    strongest point. I'm sure there are cases where Perl is equal to PHP, but I can't think of any at the moment.

    * Portability. I can take PHP code off my Linux box and plop it onto an IIS server, or even one of those new Macintosh servers and have it run without having to change a single line of code. Try doing this with Perl! Its as though it was written in assembly, Perl requires
    that much rewriting.

    * Graphics. PHP comes with a nice little graphics library. While I wouldn't use its to code the new Doom (VB would be a better choice) its adequate for most web pages, and should be considered as a substitute for Flash for certain things. Perl lacks a graphics library
    of any kind.

    * Data Structures. Under PHP you can create any type of datastructure you need: Linked lists, binary trees, hash tables, queues, inverse Reiser-biased recursion trees, etc. Under Perl you're extremely limited in what you can do. This is because Perl isn't OO (so you can't create Node classes, for example, usefull in a linked list) and because it lacks pointers. Some of you may notice that PHP lacks pointers, but look deeper! Behind the scenes, hidden from the user pointers are used. Because of this, PHP can support complex data
    structures.

    Again this is just my experience. I don't mean to offend any Perl coders because Perl was an excellent language. However, in certain cases it may behoove one to write the back end in PHP instead of Perl.

    Thank you for your time,

    Egg Troll

  4. Self driving cars should be open source. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For safety's sake.

  5. Winnie by TimMD909 · · Score: -1, Troll

    Winnie not only endorses stealing honey, but trade secrets too. Time to vote with my wallet and buy as little as possible from China.

    1. Re: Winnie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry there will be no trade with China in a few months with the Trade War.

  6. Re: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I'll take "things Trump hasn't done" for $500, Alex

  7. Apple has ways to make you talk!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They will get the truth out of you one way or another they have ways to make you talk...

    1) give them an iPhone and tell them they are not tracking it.. you know they tell the truth so you can trust them...

    2) make you watch endless Steve jobs keynote speeches...

  8. why i work on open source software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    it is morally wrong to call on the violence of the state to attack someone for sharing.

    1. Re:why i work on open source software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it is morally wrong to call on the violence of the state to attack someone for sharing.

      If it's not yours to share then it's not sharing, it's theft.

    2. Re:why i work on open source software by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help, I'm being repressed!

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    3. Re: why i work on open source software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If there's still a copy there it isn't theft.
      Nothing was stolen. It was merely copied.

  9. China stealing our secrets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

    Thanks Obama!

  10. Poor guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    He was just trying to be that great artist jobs was always talking about. Stealing and copying is the apple motto.

  11. Re: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll take "things Trump hasn't done" for $500, Alex

    The answer is: "The Wall" and "Lock her up"

  12. Can we just name this? by Prien715 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    He was just trying to pull a Levandowski. All he has to do now is found a new self-driving car company. in China.
    Or maybe this act was done on Levandowski's behalf....

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    1. Re:Can we just name this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree, he was pulling a Jian Yang.

      Jian Yang

  13. Thumb drive up his butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Claerly

  14. PCB design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It all sounds very convincing ... but the fact that the evidence which directly lead to his arrest was a PCB design makes me just a bit suspicious. We're a couple decades removed from the point where a PCB design had any chance of showing important IP.

    1. Re:PCB design by tsqr · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Plan for a circuit board" doesn't necessarily mean "PCB design"; it could include pretty much anything from a schematic diagram to a bill of materials to FPGA design files.

    2. Re:PCB design by dgatwood · · Score: 2

      Either way, there's little point in bothering to go after this guy. As soon as Apple starts having one of their Chinese manufacturing plants fab the boards, they'll make a few extras at the end of the run and ship them to whatever Chinese self-driving car wants to steal the IP. Besides, the value is in the software anyway, not the hardware. I can't imagine Apple having any interesting hardware IP in that space. Other than miniaturization of stuff like LIDAR, and maybe specialized DSP hardware for evaluating tensor models (in which all the interesting IP is chip design, not PCB design), most of the hardware tends to be off-the-shelf.

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    3. Re:PCB design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahah! Not likely, everyone knows that Apple has confidential contractual agreements with their Chinese OEM's so that none of the IP will be shared with thieving copycats.

  15. Typical trick by pseudocommunist China by Wolfier · · Score: 0

    Stealing technologies and pretend it's theirs.

    1. Re:Typical trick by pseudocommunist China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The think your talking about apple here.

    2. Re:Typical trick by pseudocommunist China by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      I thought that was straight up, normal default US business practice. If it is profitable enough, they will claim national security interests and some three letter agency disappears the people who actually came up with it.

      Of course routinely allowing corruption, extremely public corruption, to slide on through, is really spreading white collar crime.

      Corporation espionage is really getting out of hand but that's to be expected and it is going to get worse. Corruption will feed the corporate wars and espionage is of course part of that conflict.

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    3. Re:Typical trick by pseudocommunist China by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're an idiot. It's ONE guy who was hoping to cash in on some unscrupulous startup owner. Do you really think the entire country of 1.5 billion people and the government ordered him to it?

      It's like saying all you Americans are fat, or that all of you have the same IQ of 5 points below global average, or that all of you are at fault when your stupid politicians attack other countries.

      Don't blame a whole country because of what ONE guy did.

      Also, they already have self-driving cars there. They don't need whatever it is Apple has.

    4. Re:Typical trick by pseudocommunist China by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Corporation espionage is really getting out of hand but that's to be expected and it is going to get worse.

      I haven't heard of an outright assault on an R&D facility with automatic weapons, but that supposedly happened at Seagate back in the day.

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    5. Re:Typical trick by pseudocommunist China by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Apple stole it first. US law protects their IP built from stolen shit. Get over it.

      With all the shit going on in the world we have significant resources running around protecting private company IP because they failed to do it themselves. If my IP was stolen I would be laughed out of the AG office and told to pound sand on my way out.

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      I object to power without constructive purpose. --Spock
  16. Access audit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm more impressed that the file access audit flagged an alarm that resulted in a manhunt! Damn!!!

    Now only if Experian had such a scheme in place to nail the hacker/s

  17. Fuck Woz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If there is anything I hate more than Apple Fanbois...It's Fucking Butthurt Historic Apple Fanbois who still worship the Apple II today.

    Fuck Woz and fuck Woz worshippers. For goodness sake it's like people still talking about Microsoft stealing from Apple in its early days.... it's irrelevant now you fucking dinosaurs.... time to move on.

    1. Re:Fuck Woz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... who still worship the Apple II today ...

      The Apple II was not just a ground breaking computer of immense historical significance. It also paid the bills for Apple. The Macintosh was a commercial money losing failure for Apple, long after Jobs' departure. You know what paid the bills until the Mac eventually reached commercial success, Woz's Apple II.

    2. Re:Fuck Woz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL. If it was not for Woz jobs would have been selling Shamwows on infomercials.

  18. Legality of apprehension in airport by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wondering what the legal justification is of arresting someone at an airport based on statements from an employer. Doesn't seem to meet the grounds for felony IP infringement as that requires distribution (which wasn't mentioned or proved-- besides if he distributed it electronically he wouldn't need the laptop).

    He copied something illegally. Courts seemingly are required to prove it's a felony.

    Must be nice to be so rich and powerful in a city you can just call the cops to do what you want.

    1. Re:Legality of apprehension in airport by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wondering what the legal justification is of arresting someone at an airport based on statements from an employer. Doesn't seem to meet the grounds for felony IP infringement as that requires distribution (which wasn't mentioned or proved-- besides if he distributed it electronically he wouldn't need the laptop).

      You assumed that the company didn't do any due diligence and/or in contact with law enforcement long before the guy was arrested. Your statement shows that you do not like Apple (bias) because you already jumped a conclusion. I somewhat understand how you feel but your post is misleading big time.

      He copied something illegally. Courts seemingly are required to prove it's a felony.

      If you have been on the Internet this long, you should have known that already instead of asking. Maybe this blog, which is an example of a similar situation, would help you understand the situation.

      Must be nice to be so rich and powerful in a city you can just call the cops to do what you want.

      Again, go back and read my first comment on your bias.

    2. Re:Legality of apprehension in airport by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      Agreed. This is exactly what happens in any small town.

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  19. How Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A Chinese worker turns out to be a technology-spy.

    I'm shocked!

    1. Re:How Amazing by datavirtue · · Score: 1

      ROTFLMAO

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  20. It wasn't his board / program by drnb · · Score: 1

    What if it was a board or a program Xiaolang Zhang had worked on and spent hours coding and engineering?

    It wasn't his. He was an employee. There's a tradeoff. You get a paycheck regardless of whether your work/project turns out to be commercially successful, you are not at risk, but you retain no ownership of your work.

    You want to share in the upside? Go work for a startup, invest your life savings, invest the money of family and friends. Be at risk. Then you get ownership and the bounty if successful.

  21. He needed control to get paid by drnb · · Score: 1

    If he distributed it electronically he might not get paid. After all, he is a thief, why would the new venture want him around? Better to steal from the thief and be done with him. Also no paper trail, or blockchain trail, of payment to him so there is some plausible deniability that the new venture was behind it, just a rouge working speculatively on his own..

  22. Re: by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    So, two of his less important promises.

  23. Apple has self driving car trade secrets? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    I thought they gave up on the self-driving-car stuff. Any IP they have would be third tier at best.

  24. Found a weakness by QuadEddie · · Score: 0

    A chink in the armor