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Nearly 1,000 Paintings/Drawings By Vincent Van Gogh Now Digitized, Released Online (openculture.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Open Culture: Every artist explores dimensions of space and place, orienting themselves and their works in the world, and orienting their audiences. Then there are artists like Vincent van Gogh, who make space and place a primary subject. [...] The opportunity to see all of Van Gogh's bedroom paintings in one place may have passed us by for now -- an exhibit in Chicago brought them together in 2016. But we can see the original bedroom at the yellow house in Arles in a virtual space, along with almost 1,000 more Van Gogh paintings and drawings, at the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam's site. The digitized collection showcases a vast amount of Van Gogh's work -- including not only landscapes, but also his many portraits, self-portraits, drawings, city scenes, and still-lifes.

The Van Gogh Museum houses the largest collection of the artist's work in the world. On their website you can read essays about his life and work, plan a visit, or shop at the online store. But most importantly, you can experience the stunning breadth of his art through your screen -- no replacement for the physical spaces of galleries, but a worthy means nonetheless of communing with Van Gogh's vision.

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  1. Who? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is that a YouTube star?

  2. Digitising isn't enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Living in the Netherlands I've been at the Van Gogh museum a couple times. Just like any museum visit, enjoyable little outings with family, looking at the art and ddiscussing, well, often the art and stuff around it, sometimes entirely different topics.

    Some painters produce positively 3d work, like some of Rietveld's works have definite height differences in them, done in wood. Others do the same thing in blobs of paint. Van Gogh, not so much, but the work isn't quite entirely flat either. Meaning that just putting a digitiser in front and measuring hue for every pixel isn't enough. And that's just the straight cold physical measurement part of it. A good artist produces work with a certain je ne sais quoi that can be very noticeable in its absence when dealing with a reproduction.

    So, good work digitising this stuff, actually, but it is no substitute for the real thing, because it cannot be.

    1. Re:Digitising isn't enough by tsqr · · Score: 0

      From TFS: But most importantly, you can experience the stunning breadth of his art through your screen -- no replacement for the physical spaces of galleries, but a worthy means nonetheless of communing with Van Gogh's vision.

      No one's claiming that the digitized images are "substitutes for the real thing." But thanks for restating the obvious.

    2. Re:Digitising isn't enough by Known+Nutter · · Score: 0

      Well, what do you expect? There is no substance whatsoever to the story beyond the headline, with the obvious exceptions of where you can view the collection and some of the Van Gogh quotes and insights.

      Honestly, after "hey, the entire Van Gogh collection is online", what else is really left to say? Frankly, I would have expected it to be there years ago... meh.

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    3. Re:Digitising isn't enough by PeopleAquarium · · Score: 1

      No one's claiming that the digitized images are "substitutes for the real thing." But thanks for restating the obvious.

      Aren't they claiming that? Are you sure? Have you ever actually met an "average" person? Have you been to Walmart, or worked in a place where people labor with heavy tools and sweat all day? When men used shovels and hammers to build the place where you live where were you?

      Many people would say that seeing a photo is as good as seeing the actual painting. I know those people, personally. I like them, they're nice. The author was warning them, not people like you. Trust me, it's for the best that they be taught. It's far more important that they learn new things, than it is that you never read a sentence you consider obvious. The lives of those people directly affect yours, whether you're aware of it or not. In fact, they're changing the face of the world by virtue of being numerous and loud.

      The entire anti-intelligentsia movement is a response to posts like this, and it's killing the world. People who aren't as bright, wordy, or worldy as you are are not less important than you are. The very idea that they aren't worthy of mention, or even a simple explanation is a shameful thing. I hope that you feel bad about having done it and learn, before they come to tear down the house they built you.

    4. Re:Digitising isn't enough by PeopleAquarium · · Score: 2

      Frankly, I would have expected it to be there years ago... meh.

      I also would have expected it before now, but draconian copyright laws and other factors prohibited it. Shouldn't we celebrate the dawning of an era in which those without the means can appreciate the work of a Grand Master in his peak?

      Seeing, and being influenced by this simple thing, may be the root cause of the next Van Gogh's emergence. It is a good thing, and more publicity only makes it a better thing.

    5. Re:Digitising isn't enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it is enough for now. just being able to see eveything is fantastic

      in the future we could do something cool like 3d scanning the surface to create a normal map of the surface which could be rendered with the pictures to give depth. i'm surprised an image format like this doesn't exist already

    6. Re:Digitising isn't enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Download a sample 'large' image and you'll be able to see individual brushstrokes - invaluable for a student of Van Gogh who isn't able to see the originals.

    7. Re:Digitising isn't enough by TechMaster321 · · Score: 1

      I think digitising gives an incredibly close replication to the real thing and that is more than enough for the average person. It is only a true art enthusiast that would see an issue with the digital replication.

    8. Re:Digitising isn't enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one's claiming that the digitized images are "substitutes for the real thing." But thanks for restating the obvious.

      This was posted 11 hours before your post.

      I think digitising gives an incredibly close replication to the real thing and that is more than enough for the average person. It is only a true art enthusiast that would see an issue with the digital replication.

      But thanks for being a jerk about it.

    9. Re:Digitising isn't enough by tsqr · · Score: 1

      Nice rant. Too bad you missed the point entirely. The "obvious" that was restated in the OP was not that a photograph is not as good as the real thing; nor did it have anything to do with the opinion of the "average person" (where did that come from, anyway?). The point was that the OP restated what TFS had already made quite clear. I think the "average person" reading TFS would understand that. If you disagree, you have a low regard for the "average person" your post tries to exalt.

    10. Re:Digitising isn't enough by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Living in the Netherlands I've been at the Van Gogh museum a couple times. Just like any museum visit, enjoyable little outings with family, looking at the art and ddiscussing, well, often the art and stuff around it, sometimes entirely different topics.

      Some painters produce positively 3d work, like some of Rietveld's works have definite height differences in them, done in wood. Others do the same thing in blobs of paint. Van Gogh, not so much, but the work isn't quite entirely flat either. Meaning that just putting a digitiser in front and measuring hue for every pixel isn't enough. And that's just the straight cold physical measurement part of it. A good artist produces work with a certain je ne sais quoi that can be very noticeable in its absence when dealing with a reproduction.

      So, good work digitising this stuff, actually, but it is no substitute for the real thing, because it cannot be.

      Yes, and that's a good thing. Because it means you can put cultural items online without jeopardizing museum revenues. Far too many items are locked behind doors because museums don't want to digitize them for online viewing out of fear they will lose visitors to online viewers and thus revenue.

      A lot of art is locked up in this way when in reality, it shouldn't be. Putting the work online doesn't diminish its value, but provides a lot of cultural value to those who cannot visit your museum and yet doesn't detract from the fact that the work is still better seen in person than just an image on a scree.

  3. So where's the by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Torrent?

    1. Re:So where's the by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

      That's actually not a bad idea. I have a fair-sized collection of photos and photos of paintings that I've picked up here and there and use as a screensaver when I'm not actively using my computer. I have xscreensaver just randomly cycle through the pictures.

      It would be nice to add these paintings to my collection if I could download them as a single archive or something.

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    2. Re:So where's the by tonique · · Score: 1

      Eg. The Sunflowers can be downloaded as large size, that is 2236x2930 pixels. It's a JPEG of 1.9 MB, in eciRGB v2 colour space.

      That seems to be the same on the screen size as maximum zoom in the viewer...

  4. Bad ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This one is pretty bad ass.

    1. Re: Bad ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -1 Not Goatse

    2. Re:Bad ass by QRDeNameland · · Score: 1

      When I visited the Van Gogh museum over 25 years ago, I saw that one and liked it so much I bought a print of it in the gift shop, and I still keep it hanging in my home.

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    3. Re:Bad ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's titled "post-mortem" self portrait 1892.

      CAP === 'issued'

    4. Re:Bad ass by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      Old Vincent did a lot of "selfies". I wonder if that skull is supposed to be a self portrait of his skull.

    5. Re:Bad ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If only something existed like a search engine where you could look it up...

  5. Re:Is the Orkando City Council up for election by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What did you say? I cut my ear off. I mean, methinks this is the wrong story you replied to.

  6. Finally a good by AHuxley · · Score: 3, Interesting

    use of the internet. Art and culture.

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    1. Re:Finally a good by PeopleAquarium · · Score: 1

      The internet is as good as books are. Sure, sometimes they're Mein Kampf and that get's a lot of attention...but the rest of the library is pretty neat too.

    2. Re:Finally a good by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Wonder why it was not done in 1998 with the digital and the networks and the jpegs? Special new camera? Too much internet needed years ago?

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    3. Re:Finally a good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because we couldn't decide who owned the copyright back then. Taking a picture of a work of art that is out of copyright is now transformative and can be copyrighted making sure that the starving camera will always have food.

    4. Re:Finally a good by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      If you think the non art-and-culture uses of the internet are so bad, then why are you here on Slashdot making the internet worse? Clearly any such activity is a waste of human effort, according to you.

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    5. Re:Finally a good by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      From 1890 to 1998 AC?

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  7. Dataset for AI? by Camembert · · Score: 0

    I wonder if this would be a sensible dataset to train an AI in creating van gogh style pictures?

    1. Re:Dataset for AI? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be very cool. I was going to say something similar, except taking the painting names and generating new names (like on http://aiweirdness.com/)

  8. License? by jeti · · Score: 1

    I didn't see a license on the webpage. Are those images in the public domain or does the museum claim copyright on the scans?

    1. Re:License? by tonique · · Score: 2

      When you go to the zooming page for each painting and click the download button, you get a link to the terms and conditions (hope the link works).

      1. Images of the Van Gogh Museum collection up to and including A4 size in TIF format may be downloaded and distributed for non-commercial use, with the exception of images of works by artists in our collection that are still subject to copyright, in other words by artists who have been dead for less than 70 years. These include Pierre Bonnard, Charles-Louis Houdard, Artistide Maillol (died 27 September 1944), Henri Rivière and Kees van Dongen.

      They prohibit commercial use. That isn't defined, though. And the download link goes to a jpg.

    2. Re:License? by jaa101 · · Score: 1

      In the US these would be in the public domain and they could not restrict your use of their scans. This is because just scanning or photographing a two-dimensional image is not considered transformative; there's technical skill required but no artistic input. Unfortunately many countries are more restrictive—certainly the UK is—and it seems that the Netherlands also considers the scans themselves to be under copyright even though the paintings aren't. If you could photograph the paintings yourself then you could use your photos any way you liked, though probably the museum prohibits you from doing so via terms and conditions of entry.

      I'm not sure how it works when someone in the US downloads these images and violates the terms and conditions. Surely they can't extradite people for something that's not illegal in the US. Are they relying on laws around violating the web site's terms and conditions rather than copyright?

  9. FINALLY THEIR COPYright EXPIRED !!!!!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He dead yanose!

  10. that poor straw man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it is no substitute for the real thing

    +5 insightful for playing captain obvious to the straw man

    so tell us all what the straw man said that got you so riled up

  11. Is it truly impossible though by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    Some painters produce positively 3d work, like some of Rietveld's works have definite height differences in them, done in wood. Others do the same thing in blobs of paint....So, good work digitising this stuff, actually, but it is no substitute for the real thing, because it cannot be.

    I've also been to the Van Gogh museum a few times, as well as seen his works quite a few other times in other places...

    I don't think it's impossible to recreate the experience digitally.

    What is needed is a really high resolution scan - but not just an image scan, a micrometer level 3D scan of the surface of a painting, then also the very high resolution scan from multiple angles so you could properly texture the 3D model.

    To view, you would someday have a super high resolution VR headset, where as you moved back and forth specular highlights would approximate seeing the work in person.

    Or right now, you could use an augmented reality app on a phone to "move" back and forth as you view the work. I think that probably would still be substandard although closer than juts looking at a flat image.

    In the future future you could have a projected image on a wall with a face scanner that again would alter various highlights based on your position in relation to the work.

    Stuff like Vermeer is maybe trickier since he has layers of different colors to bring kind of a glow to the light. but even that layering I think could be captured and recreated digitally via ray-tracing techniques.

    In many ways the experience could be truly better than most people ever will have - not just from the standpoint of being able to visit, but even if you CAN visit some works like the Girl with the Perl Earring, they can be so mobbed you cannot truly get close enough to really enjoy the work.

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  12. what about copyright? by houghi · · Score: 1

    This copying will mean he has no incentive to make any new aret. Just like The Beatles, Elvis or Disney. Please think of the artist.

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