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Chan Zuckerberg Initiative Claims It Has Enabled Its Partners To 'Double the Number of Black and Latinx Students and Girls Taking AP Computer Science' (chanzuckerberg.com)

theodp writes: In a Monday blog post, the outgoing Head of Education for Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg's Chan Zuckerberg Initiative made the claim that "we've made investments that enabled our partners to double the number of Black and Latinx students and girls taking AP Computer Science." The claim is an apparent reference to the highly-promoted and wildly-successful new AP Computer Science Principles course (dubbed "Coding Lite" by the NY Times), which the NSF and College Board began development on in 2009. Zuckerberg's CZI LLC was created in late 2015.

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  1. Yay! Quotas!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Meanwhile, almost 2 out of 3 college students are female...

    1. Re:Yay! Quotas!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But don't you dare suggest that maybe the womens college fund has served its purpose and should be abolished.

      That would be sexist.

  2. This is great by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Next, let's work on getting more men into nursing and teaching. Diversity is always good, right?

    Right?

    Hello?

    1. Re:This is great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If they want to get men in to teaching, maybe they need to work on removing some of the stigma that any man interested in children is immediately assumed a pedophile. I was in Manchester recently and saw a park with a sign that literally said men weren't allowed in to it without a child present.
      I know I wouldn't ever go into primary school teaching even though I do legitimately have interest in it. In lower grades everybody assumes you're a pedophile and in higher grades if you piss a female student off she can make the claim you had an inappropriate relationship with her and that's enough to ruin the rest of your life, and likely land you in jail, no matter if the claim was true or not.
      And to think there's people out there lobbying to always believe the accuser when a false accusation ruins the accused so completely.

  3. Re:Who knew? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Latinx is a real word.

    The term is a political neologism that has gained traction among advocacy groups combining racial and gender identity politics.

    In other words, its a xenaphobic term, trying to suggest that gendered languages are inferior to the true Americanish with it's pure gender neutrality. These people are sick.

  4. Re:Who knew? by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Insightful

    xenaphobic

    It's frightened of a fairly meaty woman in a leather dress who chucks a razor-sharp frisbee around?

    I forget who said it (probably Ben Franklin back when usenet was a thing), but you should never use a word in writing that you've only heard in speech.

    --
    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  5. Re:Who knew? by pezezin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have lived all my life in Spain, so obviously Spanish is my mother language, and I'm seriously tired of all the idiots who try to promote this supposedly "gender neutral" language, ending words in -@, -x or -os/as. The first two are unpronunceable, the last one is way too cumbersome. I wish they would stop butchering our language.

  6. Re:Great by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1, Insightful

    what is the true motivation behind such an initiative?

    Life is not zero-sum. This can benefit both corporations and the students, and likely will.

  7. Re:Who knew? by Octorian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    English is the odd one out here. Almost all the languages in the world have gender nouns.

    This is why I get pissed when I see people ranting and raving against what few gendered terms might exist in English discourse. They should be lucky to speak a language that actually has gender-neutral nouns and pronouns.

    Just imagine if these people learned about other languages.

  8. Re:Great by iriecolorado · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Different points of view don't come from different skin color or genitals.

  9. Re:Race, gender, IQ, and occupation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The bell curve still exists for blacks and latinos so there will still be plenty that will fit your distribution for CS... this is no where near accounting for disparity in actual enrollments.

    If the IQ needed to get a degree in computer science is 120, where Hispanics have an average IQ of 95 and Whites an average of 100, then the distribution of people getting degrees will not match the general population. An average IQ of 100 in a population means 10% (or there about) of them are above 120. An average IQ of 95 in a population means 6% (roughly) of them are above 120. A quick search of stats on race in the general population, in computer science, and some back of the envelope math tells me that this is about right for Hispanics working in programing in the USA.

    Also the fact that women will have same IQ also throws your theory out the window.

    No, it doesn't. The claim was that while the average is the same the distribution of intelligence among males is wider. I don't know how much wider it is but if the standard deviation on IQ for females is 10 and for males it's 20 then the ratio of males/females with an IQ above 120 is not going to be 1/1, it's going to be more like 2/1, 3/1, or even 4/1. Go find the standard deviation on each sex and do the math.