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Special Counsel Mueller Charges 12 Russian Intelligence Officers With Hacking Democrats During 2016 Election (cnbc.com)

Posted by msmash on from the breaking-news dept.

Special counsel Robert Mueller has obtained a new indictment charging 12 Russian intelligence officers with hacking Democrats to interfere with the 2016 presidential election, and with stealing information of about 500,000 American voters, the Justice Department announced Friday. From a report: The indictment lodged in Washington, D.C., accuses the Russian spies of hacking into the Democratic National Committee and the presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton, and of releasing emails obtained from that cybersnooping with a a goal of influencing the election. The accused also hacked into state boards of elections, secretaries of state, and into companies that provided software used to administer elections, according to Deputy Attorney Rod Rosenstein. Rosenstein said he briefed President Donald Trump about the case earlier in the week.

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  1. Vote count and election results not changed by schwit1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Rosenstien added details from the podium ...

    There is no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime.
    There is no allegation the conspiracy changed the vote count or affected any election results.

    1. Re:Vote count and election results not changed by sessamoid · · Score: 5, Informative

      Rosenstien added details from the podium ...

      There is no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime. There is no allegation the conspiracy changed the vote count or affected any election results.

      He's already charged and obtained guilty pleas from Americans in this investigation, just not in this particular indictment.

      Determining any effect on the election was never in the purview of the Mueller investigation, just actions taken and the underlying intent. If you think a concerted misinformation campaign had no effect at all on voters, you are free to believe so. You are also free to believe and Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

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  2. He's got 5 convictions by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Informative

    And counting. Seems to be going quite well to me. Let's not forget how long Watergate took, and that was just some schmucks at a hotel and not a hostile Foreign power run by ex KGB...

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    1. Re:He's got 5 convictions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      "There is no such thing as a former KGB man."
      -Vladimir Putin

  3. Re:32 people charged by sittingnut · · Score: 3, Informative

    32 people were charged. 12 of those were GRU (russian) agents. 3 were trump campaign personell. Article does not say who/what the others are.

    ?! wrong.
    from zerohedge with screen shot of indictment -
    "... there is no indication that any American was a knowing participant in this activity, and no indication that these efforts altered the vote count in any way."
    https://www.zerohedge.com/site...

  4. Re:foreigners? by Talderas · · Score: 3, Informative

    While your statement is factually correct the narrative to which the submitter is reference is the "Trump-Russia Collusion" narrative. People want it to be true to get rid of Trump. These are all publicly available in indictments.

    Papadopoulos - Perjury
    Flynn - Perjury
    Manafort & Gates - Falsified income tax filings and bank fraud.
    Pinedo - Identity Fraud
    van der Zwaan - Perjury

    Only Pinedo, has anything to do with Russian involvement and that has to do with him selling some of the fraud services to the Russians. Pinedo wasn't involved with Trump's campaign. Each of the indictments of individuals associated with the Trump campaign have nothing to do with the operations of the Trump campaign or even involve the Russians.

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  5. Re:Two movies by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's a bit of it date now but there's a list: https://www.nytimes.com/intera...

    Seems like a little more than failure to virtue signal. His companies discriminating against non-whites was proven in court, for example.

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  6. Re:32 people charged by multi+io · · Score: 4, Informative

    What have the FBI, the NSA, and the rest of our wonderful "intelligence" apparatus been doing, while this was going on?

    Oh, yeah, they were busy trying to sabotage Trump

    Strzok sat on evidence incriminating Trump campaign members in connection with Russian election interference -- and didn't publish it. And Comey basically threw the election to Trump by reopening the Clinton investigation in late October. That's some strange behaviour for people supposedly trying to "sabotage Trump".