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Special Counsel Mueller Charges 12 Russian Intelligence Officers With Hacking Democrats During 2016 Election (cnbc.com)

Special counsel Robert Mueller has obtained a new indictment charging 12 Russian intelligence officers with hacking Democrats to interfere with the 2016 presidential election, and with stealing information of about 500,000 American voters, the Justice Department announced Friday. From a report: The indictment lodged in Washington, D.C., accuses the Russian spies of hacking into the Democratic National Committee and the presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton, and of releasing emails obtained from that cybersnooping with a a goal of influencing the election. The accused also hacked into state boards of elections, secretaries of state, and into companies that provided software used to administer elections, according to Deputy Attorney Rod Rosenstein. Rosenstein said he briefed President Donald Trump about the case earlier in the week.

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  1. Doomed by sycodon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If any part of this case relies on the examination of the DNC servers by Crowdstrike then any half competent attorney could take it apart.

    1. The server will need to be provided for examination by defense experts.
    2. The chain of custody is non-existent.

    No server, no evidence. No evidence, no conviction. Even then the lack of any chain of custody calls into question the quality if any evidence found on it.

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  2. Re:As they say in Russia by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The mountain gave birth to a mouse.

    Perhaps they need basic biology lessons. They're sacrificing biology to teach hacking instead.

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  3. Re:32 people charged by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Are you limiting your scope to the latest indictments? Because people like Manafort and Papadopoulos have already been indicted by Mueller, and some have pled guilty. The scope of his investigation is very large. It's also not over, and he's actually able to control his people so there aren't any leaks, we have no idea what evidence he has or who his other targets are. The only information we get from Mueller is when he files things in court. So it's probably premature for anyone to conclude anything other than what his filings say. Just because there has not been a filing charging someone with collusion, for example, does not mean that there is no collusion or that he's not investigating it or that he doesn't have evidence of it. He just hasn't filed that yet, so let's hold off on making conclusions about what people definitely did or did not do until he finishes his work.

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  4. Re: so this... by jwhyche · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There is what I was waiting for..

    Not only do those suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) suffer from the ability to separate fantasy from reality, it also clouds their ability to carry on a rational discussion. This should be evident. The subject was incensed by by a factual statement but was unable to refute it. The subject continued to get more agitated as more facts where placed in front of him. Facts that while true, didn't fit with the subjects world view as viewed under the effect of TDS.

    The final straw for the subject came when these facts where combined with a rational projection of what will probably happen. Unable to refute these facts and a rational projection that didn't fit with the subjects world view he was driven into a rage (frothing.) This is common result of trying to engage subjects under the effect of TDS.

    As clearly seen by the subjects last post in this thread it should be clear that the subject has lost all contact with reality where it comes to a successful Trump presidency. At this point there is nothing more to be gained by continuing to engage such subjects. Medical intervention is usually required after this point.

    Any questions?

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