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Amazon Admits Prime Day Deals Not Necessarily the Cheapest (bbc.co.uk)

Shoppers taking part in internet giant Amazon's Prime Day are being told that the deals on offer may not be the cheapest available. From a report: Amazon said it has never claimed that Prime Day is necessarily the cheapest time to shop on its site. It comes after consumer group Which? warned customers that apparent bargains are not always as good as they seem. It said some goods can actually be cheaper at other times of the year, and advised shoppers to do their research. The 36 hour sale -- aimed at subscribers to the Prime shopping service -- offers discounts on a range of goods. The deals are time-limited, with shoppers being told that some items are only available while stocks last.

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  1. Common sense. by Ecuador · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Good news topic for, I don't know, Cosmopolitan magazine? Not a tech site or generally anywhere where there is no lack of common sense among the audience. We've known this as long as there have been "sale events" in retail. The fact that it is an online store does not suddenly make it different and certainly not "news for nerds".
    Next thing you will tell us, it is not really worth it to stand outside stores for hours for them to open on Black Friday...

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    1. Re:Common sense. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, some of us know that, but the masses do not understand it. That's why they do these types of sales, because they work on most people.

      Yet another recent example: Sears had a Father's Day sale, and then 1 day after Father's Day they had the same sale plus an extra 10% off.

      This is why I use Honey, CamelCamelCamel, and similar tools shop around.

    2. Re:Common sense. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe the more noteworthy thing is not that they were doing it, but that they've been forced to admit it.

    3. Re:Common sense. by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 0

      >> Next thing you will tell us, it is not really worth it to

      Hey editors, if you wanted a tech story for this audience, how about it might be that it's not the best idea to sign your managed service contracts while in the VIP room at a Vegas tech conference. Or that white papers (and anything else planted on Slashdot) are mostly bullshit developed by marketing departments with a friendly customers (who is usually getting a price break to put their name on a piece.) And also, hello and welcome to IT - we can tell you're new here!

    4. Re:Common sense. by swb · · Score: 1

      I think the Cosmopolitan version of this story is "What you should be buying RIGHT NOW on Amazon Prime Day!", with a bunch of near-paid endorsements of products whose price is either unchanged or actually up.

      The local TV news channel did a piece on this last night that was almost indistinguishable from a commercial for Prime Day, about as close as they got to something resembling news was to say that "not everything is on sale" and "supplies may be limited".

      What would make this a news-for-nerds story would be somebody hacking up a screen scraper a year ago and tracking a few hundred/thousand items and their prices and providing documentary proof that prices remained either unchanged or increased, available quantities nosedived unexpectedly, etc.

    5. Re:Common sense. by jittles · · Score: 1

      Good news topic for, I don't know, Cosmopolitan magazine? Not a tech site or generally anywhere where there is no lack of common sense among the audience.

      Welcome to Slashdot! It is always nice to see new users on here. I hope you enjoy your stay here and find plenty of insightful and common-sense filled posts.

    6. Re:Common sense. by nickersonm · · Score: 2

      Like CamelCamelCamel? Never shop Amazon without it!

      HoverHound is also a decent cross-site comparison for Amazon, Newegg, and one or two others.

    7. Re:Common sense. by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 1

      Amazon is starting to (has already?) eclipsed the online sales of all other online retailers combined, which is making this old tactic potentially more relevant. You could certainly say that they've got a monopoly of online sales for online-only retailers, but possibly now that they're 50%+ of online sales including brick-and-mortar retailers like Walmart, you could make the argument that they're unfairly duping customers or wielding monopoly power in an unfair way. (That's not quite true, I'm just saying that someone could make that argument and not look entirely loony.)

      Amazon is going to have to watch themselves now that they're so immense; governments are starting to take real notice. Who knows if that'll mean any action, though.

    8. Re: Common sense. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know it before the article.

      Those who need to RTFA to know it is just naive and stupid.

      Just like how I know about all the snowden shit before snowden and I know nothing and no one can be trusted before any news came out.

      I'm so smart everyone else is dumb.

      Whoo hoo.....

  2. camelcamelcamel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Try camelcamelcamel to check the price over the last year and set alerts for the price you want. I have been using it for years.
    (note: I am not associated with them in any way, I just find ti a really useful site!)

    1. Re:camelcamelcamel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      You can use the chrome extension I made that puts the camelcamelcamel graph above the "add to cart" button, as well as fakespot details. Here's the source code :
      https://github.com/mlsad3/AmznHistoricChart
      Here's the already packaged up extension :
      https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/historic-price-shopper-am/epopkendmjlkmkmcdmbmfnnndfbfdhbc?hl=en

    2. Re:camelcamelcamel by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Beware of camelcamelcamel scams though.

      The way they make money is to tell your price alerts to the sellers. They can see that X people are willing to pay âY for this product, and use that to set their selling price.

      Unfortunately scammers can buy this information too and do fake sales where they offer the product at exactly the price you want it. Then they just run off with the cash and you eventually get a refund from Amazon. They sometimes take over existing Amazon shops, other times they set up a new one and usually phrase it something like "display product used in my shop, selling cheap..."

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  3. outrage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What? A retailer puts something on sale but they might put it on MORE sale some other time? Unheard of! Nobody in retail EVER does this.

    Oh wait, this is normal practice. But "Amazon" - so somehow we need a mob with pitchforks.

    1. Re:outrage by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      Oh wait, this is normal practice. But "Amazon" - so somehow we need a mob with pitchforks.

      Well, we do need a mob with pitchforks, just not for this particular reason.

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    2. Re:outrage by will_die · · Score: 4, Funny

      You will have to provide the mob yourself but pitchforks are available here https://www.amazon.com/Pitchfo...

    3. Re:outrage by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      You will have to provide the mob yourself but pitchforks are available here https://www.amazon.com/Pitchfo...

      You're behind the times - AmazonMob is currently being rolled out in select cities nationwide.

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    4. Re:outrage by Matheus · · Score: 1

      You've been able to do this since 2005 with Amazon Mechanical Turk!

  4. Duh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I used to do pricing at Best Buy. 9 times out of 10, when something was put on ad, the only difference on the price tag was that it said "As Advertised" above the price, the price itself didn't change one cent.

    The phrase 'on sale' doesn't actually mean 'cheaper', just that special attention is being brought to it. Yes, sometimes the special attention is a price reduction, but if you regularly watch prices you see that frequently it just means that they're featuring it in ad material.

    1. Re:Duh? by gnick · · Score: 0

      The phrase 'on sale' doesn't actually mean 'cheaper', just that special attention is being brought to it.

      "On sale" means "available for purchase." Pretty much everything on Amazon is on sale. Declaring it "on sale", like you say, is just drawing attention.

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    2. Re:Duh? by Gilgaron · · Score: 2

      I've worked places where we increased the prices on some items, advertised the new price, and increased sales on stuff that had been cheaper the week before but merely not been heavily promoted.

    3. Re:Duh? by BronsCon · · Score: 2

      You're thinking "for sale". "On sale" is subtly different, in the way the AC you replied to has described.

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    4. Re:Duh? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The UK now has permanent sales. Some companies, like DFS (shitty over-price sofas) have become the butt of jokes, using the end of the DFS sale in place of hell freezing over for events that are unlikely to ever happen.

      The law actually requires products to be for sale at full price for at least 28 days before they can be described as discounted, but they get around it by having one insanely expensive shop somewhere in the country and then permanent discounts at all the others.

      Some places are just over-priced no matter what. Electronics retailer Maplin went out of business recently, and even in the final days when stuff was genuinely 80% off a lot of it was still 3x as much as Amazon or eBay, and of comparable quality.

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    5. Re:Duh? by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      At Home Depot, we printed out yellow price tags to put on the shelf for items that are "on sale". Regular price tags are white.

      99.99999999% of the time, the yellow price tags had the same price as the white tags we removed from the shelf. They'd just raised the "regular" price in the computer so that they could put it "on sale" for the same price.

      The unfortunate part is it worked very well. A lot more of the items would be bought when we put it "on sale".

    6. Re:Duh? by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      That's a pretty standard furniture store thing here in the US too.

      Perpetually "going out of business" is their excuse, never seem to actually close though.

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    7. Re: Duh? by houghi · · Score: 1

      I neverbuy stuff on dale as it is also often bought specially for the sale one month in advance and the reduced to the teal price it should have been and even a bit above ot. Often lower quality as well.

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    8. Re:Duh? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      I remember a Two Ronnies joke where Ronnie Corbett did his "Sitting in a chair telling a joke in a really tedious way for five minutes" thing, and at one point gave a date and said "I remember it well, it was the one day Allied Carpets wasn't having a sale."

      At this point, I suspect a good 75% of even the British readers of this comment are saying "Who the fuck are the Two Ronnies"? Exactly. They were popular comedians in the UK in the 1970s and 1980s. That gives you some idea of how old I am, and how old the jokes about DFS and Allied Carpets are.

      Question for AmiMojo (who I think has said in the past he's Gen X like me, and so is probably one of the few here who's heard of the aforementioned comedians), is Allied Carpets still a thing?

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    9. Re: Duh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last time I looked, Allied Carpets was still going and having a sale. (Not AmiMoJo)

    10. Re:Duh? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I think they went bust multiple times and eventually all the assets were sold off... If they still exist it's probably not the same company.

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    11. Re: Duh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I stay away from Dale, too. Very shady.

    12. Re: Duh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The price of teal is overrated too.

    13. Re:Duh? by Raenex · · Score: 1

      99.99999999% of the time, the yellow price tags had the same price as the white tags we removed from the shelf. They'd just raised the "regular" price in the computer so that they could put it "on sale" for the same price.

      This practice is illegal.

    14. Re:Duh? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Yeah apparently they don't even have a domain name any more (or if they do it's not pointing at a functional website); seems kinda odd, but change happens I guess.

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    15. Re:Duh? by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      And I'm sure our Republican overlords will get right around to enforcing that very soon.

    16. Re:Duh? by Raenex · · Score: 1

      You worked there. Did you report it? Did you document it? Did you raise a stink to the public? Or did you just collect your paycheck and move on?

  5. Come on down! by paiute · · Score: 1

    Everybody loves a sale. Just look at the endless Presidents' Day car sale ads which somehow manage to run 12 months.

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    1. Re:Come on down! by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Everybody loves a sale. Just look at the endless Presidents' Day car sale ads which somehow manage to run 12 months.

      That's because Trump is so egotistical he passed an executive order when no-one was looking declaring EVERY day to be President's day.

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    2. Re:Come on down! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holidays or special occasions were created to spur on sales. This is why all year you have some sort of celebration to warrant a sale. How much of a sale can you have when its supposed to be the lowest already? As the old saying goes, mark it up to mark it down.

    3. Re:Come on down! by nnet · · Score: 1

      President Putin.

  6. Yeah, no shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Some of Amazon's prices are just nuts. A cooler that I bought for $10.99 at my local supermarket goes for $24.99 on Amazon.

    And most of the other seller's that use Amazon market place have ridiculous prices. A box of Oat Bran cereal is $6.00 plus S&H whereas that exact same thing is $1.99 at my local Kroger with no S&H. And the prices change all the time too; which royally pisses me off.

    Prime is just psychological - to get people to impulse buy without shopping. And at $119/year, it is definitely NOT a good deal.

    I'm starting to go out of my way NOT to buy from Amazon these days. Even books - I have a B&N near by and I can order from them and in 3 days have the book at no extra cost. Look at some of the books on Amazon and even though they may be discounted, with S&H they are more than buying locally.

    1. Re:Yeah, no shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A box of 10 Oat Bran are $34 on Amazon. That is $3.40 per box which is in line with grocery stores. The same box is $3.68 at Kroger. Why do people lie when you can look it up on the Internet.

    2. Re:Yeah, no shit. by Galactic+Dominator · · Score: 1

      How long does it take for you eat 10 boxes of oat bran?

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    3. Re:Yeah, no shit. by jeff4747 · · Score: 1

      How long does it take for you eat 10 boxes of oat bran?

      Depends on how badly you want to shit.

    4. Re:Yeah, no shit. by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Prime is just psychological - to get people to impulse buy without shopping. And at $119/year, it is definitely NOT a good deal.

      Depends. For me, it's a OK (if not great) deal for the Prime video alone.

      With the free two day shipping (with no minimum order required), it becomes a very good deal for the two things combined.

    5. Re:Yeah, no shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I dumped my account when I realized that 90% of the "two day delivery" was always pushed back at least a few days; Amazon ANYTHING isn't worth it anymore.

    6. Re:Yeah, no shit. by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      Some of Amazon's prices

      That is correct. You are referring here to prices that belong to Amazon, and indicate possession with the 's.

      most of the other seller's that use Amazon

      That is incorrect. The s by itself is used to denote plural, more than one seller. You have confused the possessive seller's with the plural sellers, which it is clear you intended from the context.

      Minus 10 points.

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    7. Re:Yeah, no shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course things that cost more to ship than they are worth are going to be more expensive at Amazon than buying them at the store, especially if you ignore all costs associated with going to the store. Both of your examples are very cherry picked. I regularly buy stuff on Amazon (including shipping costs) that is cheaper than going to the store. They beat both WalMart and Lowe's/Home Depot more often than not.

    8. Re:Yeah, no shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fiber is a funny thing for humans and canines. If constipated, fiber can help move things along. If suffering from diarrhea e.g. IBS-D, it can help slow things down. I learned the hard way to not drink grape juice and eat bran muffins at the same time. Evacuation commencing in 15 minutes with cramps for the next couple of hours.

  7. truth is by oldgraybeard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I was chatting with a client years ago that was a jeweler (still in business). The subject of sales came up. I asked, so what do you do X% over cost? He said, Heck no! I triple the price then have a 50% off sale and I can't keep the shelves filled.;)

    Just my 2 cents ;)

    1. Re:truth is by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      That jeweler may be running afoul of the law, since that sort of slimy practice is exactly why it's illegal in many jurisdictions (e.g. US, Europe, etc.) to use arbitrary list prices. Generally speaking, the item must have sold at the listed price at some point in the previous X days if the seller wants to use that price as the one that they're marking it down from. So, for instance, if you wanted to sell an item at a sale price of $50 while marking it as 50% off, someone else would have had to have paid $100 to buy that same item from you in, say, the previous month.

      I seem to recall that Amazon recently (a year or two ago) ran into this issue, since regulators were questioning whether the items were actually selling at the prices that Amazon was listing them as being marked down from. Of course, a shady jeweler isn't quite as likely to get noticed by federal regulators or whatnot...

    2. Re:truth is by Deep+Esophagus · · Score: 2

      [citation needed]

    3. Re:truth is by Anubis+IV · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You know what? Fair point. In fact-checking myself, it looks like this form of regulation is not nearly as widespread as I thought. Most places refer to this sort of practice as using "fictitious prices", and California has fairly strict laws against their use and there are a number of lawsuits (notably: NOT criminal cases, as I implied might apply) that have been initiated, but there isn't the federal level of regulation in the US that I thought there was, so thank you for calling me on that. As for the EU, I don't check any further, but given how off-base I was about the US, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that I was wrong there as well.

      So, I was wrong. Very wrong. I got some things right, but not nearly as well as I thought. Thank you again for calling me out on it.

    4. Re:truth is by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      So, for instance, if you wanted to sell an item at a sale price of $50 while marking it as 50% off, someone else would have had to have paid $100 to buy that same item from you in, say, the previous month.

      There is no way that's correct. Say you order a bunch of widgets and figure you can charge double your cost (because you bought a bunch of them). A month later, none of them has sold. Nobody is going to tell you that you can't discount those widgets until someone buys one at your inflated price.

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    5. Re:truth is by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      Nobody is going to tell you that you can't discount those widgets until someone buys one at your inflated price.

      That wasn't what I was saying. You can sell them for $50 whenever you want, but you can't advertise that $50 price as being "50% off" the $100 price at which you never managed to sell any. It's a truth in advertising issue, not a "what's a valid price" issue. You can set whatever price you want, but you can't advertise that price as being a discount from a fictitious value that they never actually sold at.

      That said, it's worth pointing out that I was factually wrong about some of the other things I said and that I've already corrected myself in a followup post to another response. These sorts of regulations are not nearly as widespread as I had thought they were. They do exist (e.g. in California, which is not where I live, so I'm not sure why I thought these were common), but they are not at the federal level in the US as I suggested.

  8. What is Prime Day? by rossdee · · Score: 2

    What is "prime" about today?

    Its the 16th of July

    Nothing prime about 16

    Sure 7 is prime, , but that would make for a month long sale.

    1. Re:What is Prime Day? by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      Prime Day is more of an Anniversary of the Creation of Amazon: July 15th. They decided to make an event out of it. Since July 15th this year falls on a Sunday, it was moved to Monday.

    2. Re:What is Prime Day? by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

      It marks the anniversary of Amazon's founding.

    3. Re:What is Prime Day? by known_coward_69 · · Score: 1

      being that i'm going to buy a few fire TVs, its probably a chance to get rid of old stock before the holiday shopping season

    4. Re:What is Prime Day? by msauve · · Score: 1

      Today is day 197 of the year. 197 is a prime number. QED.

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    5. Re: What is Prime Day? by houghi · · Score: 2

      Good that they moved it to a workday, because they are not open on Sunday, right?

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    6. Re:What is Prime Day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you see the article on Jeff Bezo's personal net worth?

      That's the point of Prime Day. Daddy needs some more zeroes in his bank account, mkay!

  9. Re:Definately!! by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

    Exactly. Musk is going crazy. I mean, I know he is a narcissist but this is over the top. Slashdot needs to post a story on this.

  10. the first one of these was actually deals... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    every one since has been a fucking joke.

  11. Re:Definately!! by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 0

    Musk shows up very briefly to get his photo-op and then has the nerve to bullshit and say, "I didn't see him there!" when talking about the diver.

    And Musk has his panties in a twist just because the diver - someone who actually knows what he's doing - pointed out the fact that Musk's "sub" was impractical for the caves and the truth that it was all a publicity stunt.

    The Thai's NEVER asked Musk for help. It was some twitter uses who asked Musk - I think the Twitter account that posted the request for help was Musk's.

    Musk is mostly all show.

    Musk is definitely in the wrong here- and you don't go and call the hero of an hour a peado without any evidence of the sort, just because you're angry.

    Yeah, the diver was far from polite in his comments to Musk and might very well have a bit of a twat-side to him; but Musk was well out of line here and deserves a big smack around the ears. In general, I like Musk, he has popularized various aspects of science and brought technology to the news and public ear... but Musk is just being a massive douchebag over his failed Thai publicity stunt.

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  12. Abailability... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ALL items are only available while stocks last, otherwise it's a pre-order.

  13. But hey, don't let THAT stop you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Truth be told, there was nothing mentioned about 'being cheaper' in any of their advertising.

    But your wallet was never meant to hold money. (What is it doing in there, anyway?) Let it go free! Let it feel that warm air of summer!

    The same thing can be said about your bank account, but I think I should stop now.

  14. Boycotting for the week by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 3, Informative

    I saw something on Twitter where workers in some countries were going on strike for better working conditions, asking consumers to boycott for the week, which I happily did. I use Amazon and appreciate that I can get some stuff there that I can't find for love or money locally, but the conditions their workers have to endure sound like they contravene a lot of labour laws, and boycotting during a mediocre barely-sale is literally the least I can do. I'm trying to find other sources for the things I want (B&H Photo, Best Buy) but for some things, it's literally impossible to get them anywhere else. Even for items that I CAN get other places, the buying experience is so bad for so many sites. It's really remarkable that almost nobody else has created a purchasing experience even half as good. (For example, I'm in the market for a new iPhone stand, and there's a nice $10 aluminum one on Amazon and I haven't seen it anywhere else yet.)

    1. Re:Boycotting for the week by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh - I don't buy from Amazon every week, or even every month. I can't see buying from them so often that stopping for 5 days is a "boycott".

    2. Re:Boycotting for the week by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm in the market for a new iPhone stand, and there's a nice $10 aluminum one on Amazon and I haven't seen it anywhere else yet.

      To be fair, phone accessories are bonkers. I swear every store has different suppliers for everything. I love my old holder but it doesn't fit my newer phone and I can't find that manufacture anymore. The replacement turned out to be total crap; thanks fake reviews!

    3. Re:Boycotting for the week by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 1

      I think I might buy as much as once a month on average. However, this is a very specific time period for Amazon—their sale week—so the strike and boycott was timed to try to do as much damage as possible...if it's possible to slow the juggernaut at all.

    4. Re:Boycotting for the week by Raenex · · Score: 1

      (For example, I'm in the market for a new iPhone stand, and there's a nice $10 aluminum one on Amazon and I haven't seen it anywhere else yet.)

      What, this one? If that's the case, you can buy it direct. Most things on Amazon are available elsewhere, like eBay, direct, or Asian market sites like AliExpress.

  15. In other news ... by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

    ... items on "clearance" might not be super cheap!

    (and might not be getting cleared out, for that matter)

    Stay tuned to /. for more hot savings tips ...

  16. Do your homework, Amazon isn't always best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The increased membership for Prime I think makes people buy from Amazon and not seek out the best deal elsewhere. I have noticed lately Amazon pricing appears to include a sort of shipping surcharge on top of some pricing. Because I have been able to beat their price and still get free shipping at other online retailers with a product that has a national set sale price. People need to be wary of Amazon's Prime days, since many products could be old stock, last years models or even refurbished product. Not everything is such a great deal, people should do their homework.

  17. Tons of stuff is cheaper in local stores by Fencepost · · Score: 2

    Even without the problem of counterfeit items being mixed in with their stock, tons of things sold on Amazon are much cheaper in local stores or even via web ordering from some of those retailers.

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    1. Re:Tons of stuff is cheaper in local stores by 110010001000 · · Score: 0, Troll

      OK. Name one.

    2. Re:Tons of stuff is cheaper in local stores by swb · · Score: 1

      I'll give you a weird example that makes me shop at Amazon but kind of hate myself for it.

      On my boat, I have occasional use for 3M 4000 Marine Adhesive Sealant. IMHO, there is no substitute for its unique qualities.

      The only local retailer for it is West Marine, and their price is about $15-16 locally. I can get it from other specialty marine product stores for the same price as Amazon (about $13) but I wind up cutting the savings by about half in shipping, plus it will take 2-3x as long to get it.

      So Amazon ends up being the optimal vendor -- best price and fast, free delivery -- I got it 1 day when I ordered it last week, which is probably faster than if I got off my ass to buy it in-store (West Marine isn't convenient at all).

      I'd like to order it from some specialty marine places because I value their business (and I buy a lot from them already), but 4 days and more money bugs me. I don't use enough to stock up, or trust open, half-empty containers to critical sealing, so I kind of need it when I need it. I don't mind avoiding West Marine, their sole retail presence gets me enough and fuck their high prices.

    3. Re: Tons of stuff is cheaper in local stores by houghi · · Score: 1

      Mary Jane. Much cheaper when bought locally.

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    4. Re:Tons of stuff is cheaper in local stores by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK. Name one.

      Hormel Hot Chili with Beans.

      And 99% of other canned food items.

    5. Re:Tons of stuff is cheaper in local stores by Teckla · · Score: 1

      My new-ish ASUS monitor was $100 cheaper at my local MicroCenter compared to Amazon.

    6. Re:Tons of stuff is cheaper in local stores by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 1

      If you used the 5200 instead, you would have a longer-lasting seal.

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    7. Re:Tons of stuff is cheaper in local stores by swb · · Score: 1

      If I used 5200, it would never come apart or be reusable. 5200 is a permanent adhesive.

      4000 is ultimately removable and/or stuff can be separated if you want, plus it remains more pliable. Like bedding deck fittings, lights, that sort of thing, where you want a good seal plus some kind of flexibility. I've used it a lot for sealing screw threads -- tap hole oversize, fill with epoxy, let cure, tap to screw size, coat screw with 4000 and seat within a half-turn of flush. Seat flush 24+ hours after curing to seal.

      I would only use 5200 on something like a permanent through-hull fitting and only then after I had dry-fit it 1001 times to make sure it was perfect, cuz it ain't coming out unless you cut it out once 5200 cures.

    8. Re:Tons of stuff is cheaper in local stores by Fencepost · · Score: 1

      I can't provide an Amazon link for it today because when I try all I get is pictures of dogs telling me that something went wrong, but over the weekend I purchased https://www.meijer.com/product/home-improvement-auto/hardware/basic-hardware/adhesives/scotch-extreme-clear-4ft-rf6740/t1/t1-873/t2/t2-10042/t3/t3-588/t4/t4-1850/5114140318.uts

      $13.99 at Meijer, and until Saturday was a BOGO50%off item - so 2 for $21. Amazon's best price for it was $14.99. I don't have links for another recent item, replacement shoelaces, but something that was about $2.50 in-store was listed for something like $7 on Amazon. Shipping would've been free, though! At least if I bought another $18-28 of items, I don't remember what the threshold is right now and Amazon's Dogs won't let me see it.

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  18. Re:I have a better story by Opportunist · · Score: 0

    Personally, I heard enough of those kids in the cave in the past week and Musk (not only in the past week) to last me more than a lifetime, maybe we can last for a week without hearing about him?

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  19. Even if it was cheaper, it's junk by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Have you looked at what's "on sale"? I have seen less useless junk in 1-dollar stores. Just cheaper.

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  20. Re:I have a better story by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

    Nope. We should hear about it. A major tech CEO going bonkers is definitely news. Much better than hearing about "Prime Day" which is just a ploy to get consumers to spend their money and has been covered all over the media (including local TV, etc)

  21. You know that you're a marketing genius when... by supremebob · · Score: 2

    You can invent your own retail holiday, and people fall for it.

    I got to hand it to Amazon, though... this is probably the smartest way I've seen to clear old inventory cluttering up their warehouses since the invention of the "Woot Off" on woot.com before Amazon bought them. Who knows... it might have been the same marketing guy who came up with Prime Day.

    1. Re:You know that you're a marketing genius when... by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      You can invent your own retail holiday, and people fall for it.

      They are promoting it with concerts around the world ... they really are going all out. It is a pretty amazing thing to watch.

    2. Re:You know that you're a marketing genius when... by lgw · · Score: 1

      It was a direct copy of Singles Day, the highest-volume shopping day in the world. Singles Day was created by Alibaba IIRC, as a sort of joke on Valentines day, first on 11/11/11. It was wildly successful in China (and is one of Amazon's big days as well).

      No surprise Amazon wanted a piece of that action, and it turns out people don't need a theme for a shopping holiday, just an excuse.

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  22. Re:I have a better story by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Then why would I wanna hear it here, too? I come here because it's not just another news outlet that drones the same bullshit as all the rest.

    At least that's what /. used to be. A long time ago.

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  23. Re:I have a better story by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

    Because it is News for Nerds. Musk is the king Nerd. Tech CEO. Visionary. Engineer. That is why there are so many Musk articles on here.

  24. Re:I have a better story by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    So we need one more? Whatever. But this isn't the firehose, wrong subpage.

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  25. You have to watch shipping too by DCFusor · · Score: 1

    I've been a prime member since 2010. Almost without fail, one item will have auto-selected "overnight" at extreme cost, instead of defaulting to the free 2 day delivery (which is becoming a joke as they add drop shippers who aren't that slick). Anyone who uses Alexa or one click ordering probably never gets a chance to switch back to WHAT YOU ALREADY PAID FOR. I've seen 30-$60 "overnight" rates on $5 junk added to an otherwise $100 order. Watch your back.

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  26. Switch part of "Bait and Switch" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Amazon has long-since implemented the "switch" part of the "bait and switch" scam. They've lulled their users (not "customers") into thinking Amazon has the lowest prices and locked them in with Prime. And now they've started jacking-up prices to milk the herd. Fools.

    I routinely beat Amazon's prices, including shipping, on smaller shopping sites and eBay. Most of those vendors don't (yet) charge sales tax either.

    I guess Bezos has to pay for the 10,000 year clock...

  27. Re: I have a better story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And you know this because?

    Oh, right, because "brown people".

  28. Prime video sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reading reviews on Prime, it feels like I am the only person that thinks the video is garbage. More than 90% of what I want to watch cost extra. I wasted an hour one night trying to find something decent that was free. Where is all this great free content that everyone raves about?

    1. Re:Prime video sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      dark web, torrent, you know, all the piracy shitsites.

    2. Re: Prime video sucks by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Depends on your tastes, I suppose.

  29. It's quite simple really. by devslash0 · · Score: 2

    Early in my career I worked for an online retailer. The algorithm for any sales was always the same and very simple: raise the RRP so that the price after all the sale discounts matches your usual price. I don't expect it to be any different this time.

  30. The liar here is the parent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hodgson Oat Bran $9.97 on Amazon

    $2.19 at Kroger

    Why do people lie when you can look it up on the Internet.

    Indeed.

    1. Re: The liar here is the parent. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Amazon's choice for "Hodgson Oat Bran" sold by Amazon
      com, is a 12-pack for $28.20, or ~ $2.20/box

      https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004IN28IM/ref=mw_dp_olp?ie=UTF8&condition=new

  31. Re: I have a better story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One more? The musk story hasn't been posted on here yet! Not every musk story is the same this one has major implications for Tesla

    He might have to resign

  32. Howaboutism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about your president becoming a putin shill. how about that for how aboutism.

  33. Who didnt know that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anything you buy from a retailer is a ripoff thats a known fact. Example: All T-shirts cost less than $2 to make, whether in China or the US. This is a fact even the highest end cotton fabric sheets sell for $1 per pound wholesale (which itself is a ripoff when you consider that cotton costs 50 cents a pound) .. there is no way making a T-shirt out of that costs more than $1.

    So why is a T-shirt a lot more than $2? Marketing and logistics. Amazon has that locked.

  34. The website and app are all crashing by Bryansix · · Score: 1

    Amazon hails itself as a technology company but at the time you can't search prime day deals on the web nor their app.

  35. Re: I have a better story by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Then I guess you could submit the story and if it's interesting it will be upvoted.

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