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Zuckerberg: If Someone Gets Fired For Data Abuse 'It Should Be Me' (cnet.com)

Mark Zuckerberg isn't planning to fire himself. At least, not at the moment. From a report: During an interview with Recode's Kara Swisher published Wednesday, the Facebook CEO touched on Russians interfering with US elections, misinformation, data breaches, the company's business model and more. When asked by Swisher who's to blame for the Cambridge Analytica scandal and related data misuse, Zuckerberg said he "designed the platform, so if someone's going to get fired for this, it should be me." Swisher followed up by asking if he was going to fire himself. "Not on this podcast right now," he said. Zuckerberg also defended the social media platform's decision not to kick off conspiracy theory-peddling websites like the far-right InfoWars. From a report: Zuckerberg said that instead of banning websites outright, the company removes individual posts that violate Facebook's terms of service. Posts promoting violence are particularly likely to be taken down, he added. Zuckerberg, who is Jewish, said even Holocaust deniers have a place on the platform as long as they genuinely believe the content they share. "I find that deeply offensive," he said. "But at the end of the day, I don't believe that our platform should take that down because I think there are things that different people get wrong. I don't think that they're intentionally getting it wrong."

85 comments

  1. Yes by nwaack · · Score: 4, Funny

    Please. Go back to your home planet.

    1. Re: Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and give back the money too.

    2. Re: Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He should be held accountable financially, jailed for ten years and his company broken up. He can keep one house, one car and no computer access for life. Just like any other bad hacker.

    3. Re:Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
      Zuck: Just ask
      Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
      [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?
      Zuck: People just submitted it.
      Zuck: I don't know why.
      Zuck: They "trust me"
      Zuck: Dumb fucks

    4. Re:Yes by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Go back to your home planet.

      Omicron Theta?

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    5. Re:Yes by tsa · · Score: 1

      Bye Zucky!

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    6. Re:Yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He just wants a way out of the responsibility.

    7. Re:Yes by Rob+Y. · · Score: 1

      If Zuckerberg "doesn't think sites like Infowars are intentionally getting things wrong", he's in a state of such denial that his opinion doesn't matter. Because many of these sites exist to spread disinformation - if only to gin up attention and make money. And Zuck's own site exists for mainly the same purpose. Granted, his site can generate plenty of attention with baby and cat pictures - but he'll always want more, and go for it right up to the line where his users abandon his platform in large numbers.

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  2. Alright then. FIRE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [Cut to planet of the apes]

    Oh shit. There goes the planet!

  3. Pointless by Tinsoldier314 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's fire the guy that can live a thousand lifetimes with the money he's got, that'll show'em! Congrats to Zuckerberg for taking one for the team.

    It should require more than a trite mea culpa and a retirement of decadence and luxury to get the heat off them.

    1. Re:Pointless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Simply having lots of money does not make a person worthy, unlike some people think!

    2. Re:Pointless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To be fair, he does believe in giving his personal money away, and he's been acting on that already - which puts him well ahead of the curve, most billionaires wait until middle age to start doing that.

      (Andrew Carnegie, The Gospel of Wealth, proposes that you should spend the first 3rd of your life learning to make money, the second 3rd actually making it, and the final 3rd giving it away. "The man who dies rich, dies disgraced.")

    3. Re:Pointless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Perhaps, but wouldn't it be better if they didn't amass ungodly sums of money at the expense of the middle class? Much of the damage that those donations go towards fixing are the result of a small number of greedy people earning profits without consideration for the consequences. There's no point in people having more than a few million dollars, after that, you've got your food, shelter and the like taken care of for life and still enough money left over to be able to have some fun.

  4. And if it's jail? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If someone should go to jail for it, who should it be?

    1. Re: And if it's jail? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This

    2. Re:And if it's jail? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoever decided to start collecting shadow profiles on people.

  5. Genuine Believers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    as long as they genuinely believe the content

    Facebook needs to mark the people they believe are really believing what they say with a Certified Genuine Believer (r) designation.

  6. Well...there's the door.... by DewDude · · Score: 3, Insightful

    GTFO.

  7. What? by bananaquackmoo · · Score: 2

    How could they not be intentionally getting it wrong? Sticking your fingers in your ears and ignoring facts while spreading lies isn't getting it intentionally wrong?

    1. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends on if you agree with me or not.

      You are silly if you think folks on the internet care about the truth... Hell, these days the press doesn't even care about that.

    2. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Of course the press cares about the truth! Why else would they put so much effort into suppressing it?

  8. Disingenious cunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    He knows he will always control Facebook courtesy of his massive shareholdings.

    Why try to pretend that he would have to take responsibility for his company's failures?

    1. Re:Disingenious cunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Disingenous is the perfect word to describe Zuckerberg.

      Cunt - it's an optional extra, but one I'd happily subscribe to.

  9. He's quitting? by hawguy · · Score: 2

    Zuckerberg: If Someone Gets Fired For Data Abuse 'It Should Be Me'

    Oh, so he's stepping down? How refreshing to see a CEO take personal responsibility for something. Hopefully the next CEO does a better job.

    1. Re:He's quitting? by houghi · · Score: 1

      No he is not. It is also not something he said or even implied if you have any basic knowledge of the Enlish language. English, Motherfucker, do you speak it?

      Do you understand the meaning of 'IF' in a non-computer related language, because that is what he used. He even made it stronger with the word 'should'. So nobody will be fired over it. That is what he is saying.

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    2. Re: He's quitting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zuck forgot his else statement.

      If(someone_is_fired)
      fireMe()
      Else
      Business_as_usual()

  10. Zuck the Cuck! by sexconker · · Score: 0

    Zuck the Cuck!
    Zuck the Cuck!
    Zuck the Cuck!

    1. Re:Zuck the Cuck! by Z80a · · Score: 1

      I don't think androids can actually be cucks.
      Unless he let someone else use his charger and watches it.

  11. Not his fault by paiute · · Score: 1

    If the Winklevoss' idea hadn't been flawed, this never would have happened.

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  12. conspiracy theory-peddling websites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "conspiracy theory-peddling websites"??

    What are those? Examples please!

    Oh, maybe they mean a blog where somebody pretends to be chased by a bunch of trolls and an Ancient Alien mod led by Robert Bigelow?

    1. Re:conspiracy theory-peddling websites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have nothing better to do why dont you go watch my youtube channel?
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    2. Re:conspiracy theory-peddling websites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Breitbart, InfoWars, FoxNews, etc

    3. Re:conspiracy theory-peddling websites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC... Oh hell, just include them all. The media doesn't report news. They take events and spin a narrative. Squabbling over this "left wing versus right wing" stuff is exactly what they want us to do. If you aren't outraged by something, they haven't done a good enough job trying to brainwash you.

    4. Re:conspiracy theory-peddling websites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      False equivalence.

    5. Re: conspiracy theory-peddling websites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup. They have pulled off quite a trick getting people to debase themselves over mere opinions. They are all culpable. And yes, Zuck should be fired. :P

    6. Re:conspiracy theory-peddling websites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not even close. Just because one posts less fake news than the other, doesn't make it any more credible. Journalistic standards have nearly completely dropped off the face of the map all around.

  13. Translation from the Russian by sphealey · · Score: 3, Funny

    I took 2 years of Russian in high school, so let me translate: there will be no accountability at Facebook for the Cambridge Analytica data privacy violation, nor will Facebook change any policies or terminate any profitable contracts as a result.

    1. Re:Translation from the Russian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nor should there be. It had no effect on anything, except your fragile psyche.

    2. Re:Translation from the Russian by sphealey · · Score: 1

      Let me guess: you are a senior manager at Uber.

    3. Re:Translation from the Russian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you would have to be an idiot to think that when you hand personal details over the web to another company that those details will always remain private. Do not blame others for your own naivety.

    4. Re:Translation from the Russian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...or just someone who isn't pissweak

    5. Re:Translation from the Russian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How dare free speech exist.

    6. Re: Translation from the Russian by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh the big famous internet tuff guy. Where have you been? Us weaklings need your non pissweak strength.

  14. Not pointless at all by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    this makes it sound like he's taking responsibility when in fact he's taken none. At his income bracket he's above the law and he knows it. We don't spill the blood of kings.

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    1. Re:Not pointless at all by jwhyche · · Score: 4, Informative

      Tell that to the French. To bad we don't party like its 1789 anymore.

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    2. Re:Not pointless at all by tsa · · Score: 1

      In the Netherlands we have laws to help us take as much money and goods from convicted criminals as we can.

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    3. Re:Not pointless at all by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      "France has no need for chemists"

      They murdered one of the greatest scientists of all time in their zeal, Lavoisier.

      How about we have same laws rather than shit laws interspersed with brief periods of mass murder.

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      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    4. Re:Not pointless at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about we have same laws rather than shit laws interspersed with brief periods of mass murder.

      That's a nice idea, but it's not gonna fly with most people. The popular opinion is that it's ok to take matters into your own hand and go punch a Nazi in broad daylight. It's only the minority of Trumpanzes who believe in law and order. The left thinks that's just code for racism.

    5. Re:Not pointless at all by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      Better plan. How about you learn to take a joke for what it is, a joke.

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    6. Re:Not pointless at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the US the authorities also have asset forfeiture, but like most laws in the USA they are only to be used to keep the plebs in line and do not apply to the millionaire class.

    7. Re:Not pointless at all by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      There was some dude for ages here who had that quote about refreshing the tree of liberty in his signature. You should realize that the reason is not even slightly clear it was a joke is that far too many people actually seem to think like that.

      Now a sensible person might respond "oh looks like I've been a victim of Poe's law", but angry condescending posts work well too.

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      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    8. Re:Not pointless at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      most people

      Implying that Americans are people. Nice try.

    9. Re:Not pointless at all by tsa · · Score: 1

      The problem of course is that in the USA the line between lawful and unlawful behaviour is quite blurred. Corruption is mostly legal there.

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  15. He owns it, firing won't fix that by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Look, this is why it can be bad to work for family owned firms. Even if he is fired, he still controls the stock, and FB will still continue to do bad things, because he controls it.

    Fix the problem and stop pretending there isn't a problem.

    Short version: do to the rest of the world what you do in Germany. There you aren't allowed to help Nazis or spread false conspiracy theories.

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  16. "I take full responsibility ..." by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

    "... for, er, nothing"

  17. OK. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

    This seems like an obvious "Well I'm glad we reached consensus so quickly..." opportunity.

  18. So sue me! by marcle · · Score: 1

    I can afford better lawyers.

  19. First Time I Agree with Zuckerberg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What he is doing is right... standing up for free speech.

  20. Welcome to the post-truth world by Ichijo · · Score: 1

    Zuckerberg...said even Holocaust deniers have a place on the platform as long as they genuinely believe the content they share.

    I wish I were so naive again. Those were simpler times.

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    1. Re:Welcome to the post-truth world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the naive story. The real question is how Zuckerberg and his team of moderators expect to know whether anybody's beliefs are genuine or not.

    2. Re:Welcome to the post-truth world by Narcocide · · Score: 1

      What makes you think they actually want anyone to be able to do that? The first thing such an entity would notice is that Zuckerberg and his whole team are themselves not being genuine about their beliefs.

    3. Re:Welcome to the post-truth world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Option 2 is to delete all other opinions you don't agree with.

      Too much of this going on anyway, in particular anyone who supports the pres. I'm not sure If I'm meant to be a nazi or a russian bot this week, simply wanting laws to be enforced (border, police etc )

  21. Virtue Signalling by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    It's real easy for someone with as much ill-gotten gains as Zuckerberg to say something like that, and it doesn't mean a gods-be-damned thing when he says it.
    It is time for Facebook to go the way of the dinosaurs and Zuckerberg with it. The nature of so-called 'social media' has to change, and the data-ripping has to stop completely. Of course I'd be even happier if 'social media' as a concept went the way of the dinosaur, I think it's a cancer on our civilization.

    1. Re:Virtue Signalling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course I'd be even happier if 'social media' as a concept went the way of the dinosaur, I think it's a cancer on our civilization.

      The internet itself isn't really very useful. I'm just wasting time here when I should be washing the car.

    2. Re: Virtue Signalling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod up +100

    3. Re:Virtue Signalling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm just wasting time here when I should be washing the car.

      You can't think of a better use of your time than making sure your asphalt buggy is shiny?

      captcha: juggle

  22. Not their fault... by Arzaboa · · Score: 1

    In Zucks world, its not their fault for using his data that way, its his for giving it to them?

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  23. Seak talk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zuckerberg: If Someone Gets Fired For Data Abuse 'It Should Be Me'

    Swisher followed up by asking if he was going to fire himself. "Not on this podcast right now," he said.

    Talk, talk talk. It's all talk. Elephant talk.

  24. An ad company by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    has to get its ads working for its customers.
    All that PRISM too with its other customers.

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  25. The next shareholder meeting should be interesting by Balial · · Score: 1

    I'd lol if people asked him to step down

  26. Resign then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Drop the false sacrifice. You attended Harvard. Craft a resignation letter, sign it, and Facebook will be better for it. And besides the privacy and data abuses, you're "service" has enabled killings, mob action, and destroyed livelihoods, and you knew it all along and sat there allowing it to happen while you got paid billions.

    So tak eyour money and shut the f*** up.

  27. Thank you manchild for confirming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what you said in an email interview a long time ago, that people were idiots for trusting you with their data (that's the cleaned up version of what you said).

    1. Re:Thank you manchild for confirming by Bodhammer · · Score: 1

      "They trust me — dumb fucks," says Zuckerberg in one of the instant messages, first published by former Valleywag Nicholas Carlson at Silicon Alley Insider, and now confirmed by Zuckerberg himself in Jose Antonio Vargas's New Yorker piece.


      http://gawker.com/5636765/face...
      Who's laughing now douchelord?

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    2. Re: Thank you manchild for confirming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gawker LUL

  28. Lock up Fuckerberg!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Along with CROOKED Hillary.

    And where are those servers? I want to know where the servers are. I mean where are the servers, and where are those 30,000 emails?

    And what about Benghazi?

    There also wasn't not any COLLUSION that I never didn't not say that I did, when in fact I didn't, so hopefully that doesn't not clarify what I didn't not do.

    1. Re: Lock up Fuckerberg!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot about the uranium.

  29. It's not a lie. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you believe it to be true, then it's not a lie. This is classic Seinfield reasoning.

  30. Crapbook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I stopped wasting my time with that mindless shit a long time ago. It started out for college students only, then they opened it for everybody. Scince then, it has become the AOL of the internet, and like AOL, has gotten progressively worse. FB Messenger for Android s a bloated beast weighing in at over 300 megabytes, and gets it's tenticles into everything.

    Fuck Facebook. May it fail and fail hard.

  31. Consequence-free posturing by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

    Zuck will not be fired, as he himself is quite aware of. So what he's saying is, "Nobody will be fired for this."

    1. Re:Consequence-free posturing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that is 100 percent true.