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Ecuador Will Be Handing Assange Over To UK Authorities 'In Coming Weeks Or Days': RT (express.co.uk)
Ecuador is planning to hand over WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to UK authorities in the "coming weeks or even days," RT editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan said, citing her own sources. Simonyan reported the news in a recent tweet, which was reposted by WikiLeaks. Slashdot reader Okian Warrior first shared the news. Daily Express reports: Foreign Office minister Sir Alan Duncan is said to be involved in the diplomatic effort, which has come weeks ahead of a visit by new Ecuadorian president, Lenin Moreno, who called Mr Assange an "inherited problem." He also referred to the exiled WikiLeaks founder as a "stone in the shoe." Sources close to Assange claim he was not aware of the talks, but believe America is piling "significant pressure" on Ecuador to give him up, according to the Sunday Times. The sources claim that America has threatened to block a loan from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) if he is not removed from the embassy, based in Knightsbridge, west London. UPDATE 7/21/18: The Intercept also confirmed the news. Glen Greenwald, former reporter for The Guardian, writes: "A source close to the Ecuadorian Foreign Ministry and the President's office, unauthorized to speak publicly, has confirmed to the Intercept that Moreno is close to finalizing, if he has not already finalized, an agreement to hand over Assange to the UK within the next several weeks. The withdrawal of asylum and physical ejection of Assange could come as early as this week."
He was certainly OK in the early days, but when he became a Russian puppet and started one sided "leaks" in order to sway the elections to the candidate most likely to abuse human rights, he stopped being defensible.
He's also apparently a likely rapist. Which is why he's hiding out in the first place. The "It's all America!" stuff is codswallop. The US has no extradition warrant out on him, and never has done. He just doesn't want to go to Sweden and be asked awkward questions.
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There sure is a lot of bitterness out there from the people whose misdeeds he's revealed, and it seems they really, really want to "get even" though it will make them look even worse to those of us who are paying attention to anything like truth. And as if it'd make us forget their original misdeeds.
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Anti-virtue signalling by those who want to deter any future entities who would reveal their wrongdoing?
Why guess when you can know? Measure!
Err, I mean "prison". On foreign soil.
USA. The only surviving fascist Nazi country. (Recruiting and giving asylum to all useful Nazis back then, still considering "race" a vaild 'scientific' concept, still having de-facto segregation in many areas of life (like housing), being nationalist nutjobs [even Jon Steward and similar "left" ones], warmongering and manipulating ALL the countries, having a corporate oligarchy council as "government", aka privatization aka actual definition of fascism, and Trump playing the same game Hiter did to us Germans back then.)
Let's see how bombs you to rubble and turns you into a puppet state like you did with us Germans back then ⦠Iâ(TM)m betting on BRICS, as soon as they manage to disable your nukes. (Which should be similar in difficulty, to Joe Bauer getting out of prison plus that hospital computer terminal in Idiocracy.)
Before the Clinton emails, remember that Assange did the world a big service by leaking civilian death logs in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as videos of war crimes by US troops. The world needed to know how disproportionate the US response after 9/11 was -- the US needs to know that the world is watching whenever it starts another military homicide spree.
Sad day if he's being railroaded at the US's request, though the source (RT) is somewhat suspect.
Assange's contribution to humanity is immense. Uncovering really dodgee dealings which are ruining countless lives.
I was a strong proponent of Wikileaks, hell I even bought one of their T-shirts to support them. Right up to the point when they were always singularly highlighting grievances in the US and the West in general, while seemingly giving real police states like Russia and China with desolate human rights conditions a free pass.
Also Assange has been a too useful idiot to Putin's plan of dismantling Europe and hurting NATO lately in his support of separatist movements like Brexit and Catalonian independence. Parts of Europe are practically paralyzed due to being busy with these non-issues. It's no secret that Russia is supporting separatist and right-wing parties throughout Europe.
Assange has been acting like one of these Russian agents lately, whose purpose it is to undermine our democracies by spreading FUD, so fuck him.
Also, Slashdot shouldn't post articles citing RT.com sources. RT is Russia's propaganda mouthpiece disguised as a a legit news channel.
You're assuming that the "justice" is actually justice, not a kangaroo court. I view him dodging "justice" as somewhat in between people fleeing East Berlin and people violating the old US fugitive slave law. "The law's the law" is a platitude for people who choose not to think. No. Governments aren't always right, and sometimes people fleeing so-called justice is a good thing.
The folks who supported him get discarded. Paul Manafort (the architected Trump's campaign) comes to mind. Trump's famous for not paying his contractors, so much so that every contractor in Vegas had an agreement that they'd withhold work from him until he paid the last guy he hired.
Discarded? The guy is under inditement. Do you expect Trump to pardon him if he's in fact done something illegal? As a Trump supporter myself hell no. I want the rule of the law to fucking mean something again. Manafort, Hillary, Bush, Obama, Kerry.... the whole criminal fucking lot of them belong behind bars. If you or I did even a fraction of the shit these people have we'd be away for life. Instead Jeff Sessions is asleep at the wheel with his thumb up his ass.
Discarded is hardly the word for this. Trump should not be protecting people who are obviously criminals and he isn't.
To your last point, you're going to need to cite some sources.
The entire 'Sweden' thing is fake.
The only plan is to get him on Swedish soil so they can "lend" him to the USA.
No sig today...
Putin's plan of dismantling Europe and hurting NATO lately in his support of separatist movements like Brexit and Catalonian independence. Parts of Europe are practically paralyzed due to being busy with these non-issues. It's no secret that Russia is supporting separatist and right-wing parties throughout Europe.
So...it was the Russians who sent all those radical Third World migrants to Europe?
Sweden couldn't legally do that: if they extradite him from the UK via a European Arrest Warrant, they can't then extradite him to anywhere without applying to the High Court in London. If they decide to ignore that provision of the treaty which established the EAW, they would have to assume that no-one would ever honour their applications again. Assange might well be narcissistic enough to think that he's worth it, but I'm amazed that anyone else would.
He's agreed many times to be interviewed by Sweden on neutral ground.
Assange could not "agree" to that for the simple reason Swedish prosecutors have never proposed such silly idea.
In reality Assange as a fugitive of justice made unreasonable proposals to the Swedish prosecutors, proposals inadmissible under the Swedish law (which means the prosecutors couldn't agree to them even if they wanted to).
Please stop spewing absurd propaganda. You have the right to defend Assange as much as you like, but not by disseminating fake information.
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So were you this upset when Trump pardoned Joe Arpaio? Who was convicted of contempt of court for openly refusing a court order telling him to stop civil rights violations? And now you're telling me you wouldn't expect a Trump pardon here? And that you support Trump and the rule of law? And that Trump isn't protecting obviously criminal people? ffs dude, that's some reality you must be living in. I'm with you with all those names, but you've got a giant gaping blind spot if you think Trump shouldn't be on that list and are out of your damn mind if you think Trump would put the rule of law above protecting himself (A President can pardon himself, right guys??).
Those close to Assange say "they are piling on the pressure," so, for now, it's a fact not in evidence.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
So...it was the Russians who sent all those radical Third World migrants to Europe?
Yes. Through their support of Assad the butcher, and other destabilizing conflicts in developing nations. It's economic warfare by refugee.
...si hoc legere nimium eruditionis habes...
Do you expect Trump to pardon him if he's in fact done something illegal?
Yes, it would be repeating the pattern he's already established.
I want the rule of the law to fucking mean something again
Then you are in a quandary, because you're supporting the wrong person. Trump is, at best, an immature bullying narcissist with no respect for democracy or the rule of law.
I'm not sure why you want to jail President Bush though (which one, BTW?)
Cowardice?
And here I thought John Kerry was accused of, you know, coming back from Vietnam and declaring on national television (Meet the Press, April 18, 1971) that he participated in large-scale war crimes.
With the result that you can either believe that the young John Kerry was a dishonorable war criminal ("following orders" is not an actual defense to engaging in war crimes), or you can believe that the young John Kerry was a dishonorable slanderer of everybody he ever served with. But that either way that if presidential candidate John Kerry wanted to be judged on his actions in his youth, the correct judgment was that he shouldn't even feel free to show his face in public, much less hold high office.
The only available defense for John Kerry was a declaration that he disavowed what his younger self did, that he wasn't that man anymore, and so he shouldn't be held accountable for it. Which would be fine, except that in that case he would have to also disavow any credit for what that young man who he isn't anymore did in Vietnam, rather than constantly bringing up that younger self's service.
John Kerry started his political career by slandering those who served in Vietnam; that that thoroughly maculate origin rebounded on him when he made Vietnam service an issue in the campaign was utterly predictable and entirely just.
That includes National Pentagon Radio, which (gasp) is funded by the government. Or just ask Zombie Ed Shultz, as it wasn't the head of RT that called him up minutes before he was going to cover Bernie Sander's announcement that he was going to run for president in 2016 and ordered him to cover some shit irrelevant story from Tennessee instead.
Refusing to Take Sides, NPR Takes Sides With Torture Deniers