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Visualizing the Best and Worst Paid Jobs in the Tech Sector (howmuch.net)

An anonymous reader writes: We often associate the tech sector with high-paying jobs and cool offices, but it turns out that the grass is not always green on the other side. Using data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, personal finance site HowMuch has created a graph that showcases the 15 best and worst paid jobs in the technology industry.

94 comments

  1. That is about right by 110010001000 · · Score: 0

    Those numbers look about right. I earn $50,000 doing IT in Silicon Valley. I also get a Christmas Bonus.

    1. Re:That is about right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Christmas bonus? Me too. I look forward to that bottle of Trader Joe's Sparkling Cider year after year. It screams "Festive" from the rooftops. If we use small glasses, me and my six roommates can each share a taste.

    2. Re:That is about right by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      The problem is location.
      In some places 50k is a good salary, enough to own a home and have a family. In others you are scraping by.

      If these prices are based on the national average. The numbers seem about right. I work in a City often awarded "All American City" which in general means the city is the closest to the national averages. Aka a fair representation of America on the whole.

      However if you live in the big citys or Silicon Valley where prices are way high. chances are you will be making more then 50k unless you have some real low end job. Your you really suck at your job.

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    3. Re:That is about right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a meme at this point...

  2. More useless salary comparisons by iotaborg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yet again we have these useless base salary comparisons that aren't indexed to cost of living. Many in the tech industry see significant portions of income coming from bonuses and equity. Consider the bay area; $150k total comp is more like entry level software engineer these days, and AI/ML folks can pull in $300k+ from the get go.

    1. Re:More useless salary comparisons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All the support positions below $100K is accurate for Silicon Valley, which aren't indexed to the cost of living.

    2. Re:More useless salary comparisons by lgw · · Score: 2

      Anything that conflated "IT" with software development is BS to begin with. I have to wonder what a "Computer Programmer" is supposed to be, as I've never seen that as an actual job title. Especially since they also have "Applications Software Developer" and "Systems Software Developer" as different jobs (and I haven't seen those titles in 20 years).

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    3. Re:More useless salary comparisons by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Anybody doing IT is going to end up doing at least a little dev. If only scripts.

      It can be an incubator, learn the hard practicals, produce enough value to live. Learn to code better. Eventually you code well enough. You _should_ have learned to code better in high school or younger, but never too late to get better, never stops, get used to it.

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    4. Re:More useless salary comparisons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My salary was pretty close to accurate from their description and I live in an area with an average cost of living (not West Coast).

    5. Re:More useless salary comparisons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they also have "Applications Software Developer" and "Systems Software Developer" as different jobs

      Hmm. Let's see - one deals with developing software applications (such as web and desktop applications), the other with developing systems software (such as operating systems). Sounds like different jobs to me.

    6. Re:More useless salary comparisons by Darinbob · · Score: 3, Informative

      $150K is still not a typical starting salary in for programmers Silicon Valley. I'd expect that to be more common in a reasonable job for someone with10 years experience. For entry level the person is a complete unknown though with no graduate school, that's way too high to start with, except for a few companies with more cash than brains.

      There is a snag here though. What people report as good salaries rise faster than the typical yearly raise or rate of inflation. So if you're getting a decent 5% raise each year you may not be able to catch up. So people usually get the biggest boost in pay by changing jobs, because then the pay rise isn't limited to a certain percentage. Which is counter productive because it makes it hard to keep employees or get them caught up in pay.

    7. Re:More useless salary comparisons by mikael · · Score: 1

      Anything IT related, would involve system administration, setting up clusters, containers, virtual machines, managing user problems (forgotten passwords, inability to log into applications, fixing hardware).

      Computer programmer would be someone writing algorithms and scripts in Python, C, C++, assembly language to assist academic staff in their work. I've heard of scientific programmer, device driver and graphics programmers. Programmers optimize code around hardware taking into account memory layouts, DMA timing, multithreading, mutexes and other techniques. Software Engineers are more about collaborating and working out a solution to add application features at an application level. Application software developers do more time and project management but work more with network API's than working with things at a hardware level. They would be doing things like writing stock-trading applications designed to operate in multi-processor environments with built in fault redundancy.

      Research Scientists are doing work equivalent to project managers; estimating project times and costs, supervising staff (technicians), doing talks, writing papers. Same with Network architects; they estimate costs of hardware and time to install.

      This diagram really misses out on all the new jobs like AI/DNN/ML/computer vision engineers. There are also HPC system administrators.

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    8. Re:More useless salary comparisons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Computer Programmers" is a title handed out at companies that aren't in anything remotely related to computers but have a small IT dept including some developers.

    9. Re:More useless salary comparisons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tbh someone could get really good at scripting and hacking but never write anything that would be production ready in any sort of actual development team......and yet it gets used in production.
          Well enough is relative.

    10. Re:More useless salary comparisons by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      If you don't know a better way to do it when you finish a project, all that proves is you haven't learned anything.

      'Well enough' has to do. Nobody can go back and continuously rework, very few anyway.

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  3. contracted work by sakono · · Score: 2

    companies are contracting out more and more IT support. I'm a enterprise lead printer tech, so I help techs all around the country with issues and help find solutions to many problems we run into by working with the printer hardware or software engineers. but I only pull in 41k before taxes since the printer company contracted out techs to another company. I'm seeing more and more of that happening too. it sucks.

    1. Re:contracted work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ouch- 41k before taxes? Where do you live, Detroit or Cleveland? lol That's pretty much the only way I can see a salary like that being reasonable, and it'd still be fairly low.

    2. Re:contracted work by sakono · · Score: 1

      kent, wa which is basically Seattle in rent and house prices. had to get a room mate to keep living close to work where i don't need a 2hr commute one way.

    3. Re:contracted work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work in a similar role and make about the same as you. I am thinking of moving over and doing HVAC and eventually refrigeration tech, which commands twice as much. I am reminded of this every time I go to the supermarket and see all the cold cases with milk, ice cream, etc. Restaurants use this, Costco does, Sam's Club. Training time? 6-8 weeks. In Texas, where I live, it's hot 9 months of the year. You cannot outsource HVAC, plumbing, welding, and electrical.

    4. Re:contracted work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      this is just my opinion obviously: you should look for a new job. Not only are they paying you very poorly considering the cost of living in your area, the fact that they're outsourcing lots of work means your job security could also be in jeopardy. You have experience leading a team and working in an enterprise company, that alone should be able to get you some decent entry-level jobs making ~60k or so, regardless of your actual skill-set.

    5. Re:contracted work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Printer techs in Detroit make around 60-70k.

      Six figures for more typical technical positions aren't hard to find with a few years experience. An odd place, where someone can be a mid-level security engineer for 110k and drive past houses selling for 5k. 30 miles in any direction is more typical of the midwest. Admins making 60-80k and living in 250k homes.

    6. Re:contracted work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Printer tech is supposed to be the entry level job for IT, not the high point of your career. If you can't progress beyond fixing printers, then get out of the field, its not for you.

    7. Re:contracted work by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      HVAC puts you in 115 degree attics and crawl spaces with 1 cm clearance and brown recluses.

      Every day in the heat. Grunts in that job get paid because they have to be.

      Do new construction, not maintenance, if you can. Maintenance 'crawler' is a kids job, because it will wreck you if you're not a kid with no health issues.

      In the meantime, enjoy the AC.

      At least try and get a new job in support somewhere better. Maybe climb up to testing, somewhere that does dev. The fact is that if computers are just overhead, you will be overhead. Go work support somewhere that makes money with computers, doesn't even have to be directly with software development. Do a better job picking your next employer. Best time to look for a job is when you have one...no time like the present. etc

      Avoid any business that produces pure commodities. Those are always run by marketing.

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    8. Re:contracted work by sakono · · Score: 1

      I am looking for other jobs. been working this one to build up the worked in IT secotor for the resume, but even that has been hard finding jobs in WA that I qualify for. have applyed for a couple out of state but due to current family issue I wont really be free to move out of state untill the end of the year. But i am looking.

    9. Re:contracted work by sakono · · Score: 1

      when I was in training few years ago the techs that were directly working for the printer company were complaining about them trying to contract out all the tech spots. they were making 70-80k+ and refusing to take a drop in pay. so in house makes lots more then contracted out. but I am looking for new job. just haven't heard back is all.

    10. Re:contracted work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I realize my tone may have come off a little harsh in hindsight. I get it though that when you've got bills to pay and mouths to feed you sort of get stuck in it. The IT field is an unforgiving bastard and I wish more people would stay away from it, for their own sanity. There are days I think about going to farm onions after 20 years in this profession...but the money is so damn good.

      I wish you luck in your job hunt.

    11. Re:contracted work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try working as a contractor in SF. I hear they hire retarded, morbidly obese special needs people just to clean closets there, for $50k+.

    12. Re: contracted work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beets are better than onions.

    13. Re:contracted work by sakono · · Score: 1

      I would rather stay out of Cali honestly. also I'm only a little over weight normal person so doubt i'd get anything.

    14. Re:contracted work by sakono · · Score: 1

      No I know i need to work on getting out of here. my dad might last tell Christmas so while I'd love to get another job I'm currently focused on try to make the best with what little time he has. I worked fast food for 12 years before i landed this job 6 years ago. was surprised that I got treated like I was still in fast food. seems people like to look down on you no matter what job you do for them.

  4. What's in a name ? by King_TJ · · Score: 2

    I'd agree that a lot of these salary rates look approximately correct to me. But you only know so much from a job title.

    For example? According to this chart, a Network Administrator gets paid about $58,873 yet a Network and Computer Systems Administrator gets $86,430. I bet if you actually talked to a number of people who were given each of those job titles, you'd find a big mish-mash of what people holding either title actually did as job responsibilities. Arguably, someone purely doing "Network Administration" might be the one getting paid MORE, because he/she was purely responsible for high-end Cisco switches and networking gear, firewalls, etc. -- which require more specialized skills and certifications than someone just doing Windows PC workstation support or taking care of user account setup via Active Directory or what-not.

    And heck, my own job title is "Support Analyst" -- which seems to be a completely made up name, created by pulling from a couple of different job titles and pasting words together. I can't ever find a salary match for my particular title -- and I'm quite sure that was done on purpose.

    1. Re:What's in a name ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol I was a support analyst once. All i did was configure laptops for new employees and reimage the ones from terminated employees (after the mandatory legal hold of course.) paid like 55k

    2. Re:What's in a name ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Arguably, someone purely doing "Network Administration" might be the one getting paid MORE, because he/she was purely responsible for high-end Cisco switches and networking gear, firewalls, etc

      Not really. Supply and demand. Running a network is more fun and more popular than operating cloud backend, which is called a "computer network" within most companies these days. The latter needs skills in networking to a certain level, servers, virtualization, and piles of administrative frameworks on top of frameworks. Not as fulfilling, fewer people can do the job, and it pays more.

    3. Re:What's in a name ? by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      At my company Network Administrator meant "server admin" and Network Engineer meant "does Cisco stuff". Didn't make a lot of sense. We also had SAN and LAN Administrators and some other odd titles. It's definitely a random mishmash, composed of history, changing management, HR policies, and the path of least resistance.

      We do have Support Analysts, though - both Tier I and Tier II, for helpdesk and site-visit type support.

    4. Re:What's in a name ? by r1348 · · Score: 1

      Google's EMT?

    5. Re:What's in a name ? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      IT job titles are indeed a mess. Often one does a little bit of lots of things such that to be accurate, you'd have to break down tasks by percentages, which would make job titles resemble URL parameters: Coding=50%, Testing=20%, Analysis=20%, Documenting=20%, AdministrativeBS=20%, Etc.

      (Adds up to more than 100% you say? It's called "undocumented overtime" :-)

    6. Re:What's in a name ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same title, back in the 90's. I made about $35k, tops. Midwest.

  5. Looking at TFA's graph... by Nutria · · Score: 3, Funny

    Customer Success Representative??

    Right. And secretaries just loved it when they were "upgraded" to becoming Administrative Assistants.

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    1. Re:Looking at TFA's graph... by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

      The most I got out of it was that you need to by physically larger to earn more money. According to the graph, smaller people make less money.

    2. Re:Looking at TFA's graph... by Nutria · · Score: 1

      Men are physically larger than women, and they earn more. QED!!

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    3. Re:Looking at TFA's graph... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Men are physically larger than women, and they earn more. QED!!

      yuh hayn't saw 'murkin wimmin huh?

    4. Re:Looking at TFA's graph... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet overweight men tend to make less money than their skinny counterparts. Google it yourself if you want actual references, but my anecdotal evidence for this is our famous IT closer cleaner creimer and his $50k salary.

    5. Re:Looking at TFA's graph... by HornWumpus · · Score: 2

      Tall men earn more than short ones, on average.

      Wear elevator shoes during interviews. Even if you're tall. Every inch counts (preemptive: that's what your mom said).

      I wonder if 'Amazon women' earn more money?

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    6. Re:Looking at TFA's graph... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Customer Success Representative

      Are they demoted to Customer Failure Representative if they screw up?

      Where's the "Synergy Assurance Representative" on that chart? The PHB's aren't keeping up.

      I'm just being an Agitation Engineer; colloquially known as a "troll".

    7. Re:Looking at TFA's graph... by Nutria · · Score: 1

      Agitation Engineer... I like that!!!

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    8. Re:Looking at TFA's graph... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMG! We're being overran by Scots! Hide your sheep!

    9. Re:Looking at TFA's graph... by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Why do Scotsmen wear kilts? 'Cause sheep can hear a zipper a mile away, my lad!

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    10. Re:Looking at TFA's graph... by mikael · · Score: 1

      They also became "Executeries" - Executive secretary.

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    11. Re: Looking at TFA's graph... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that a combination of executive and charcuterie?

    12. Re:Looking at TFA's graph... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They forgot to mention CEOs of big monopolist Silicon Valley companies.

      The highest rewards are reaped by those who work least hard. The hardest job in IT is (wo)manning a computer help desk. You get a perennial stream of callers wiith strange computer malfunctions and they expect you to offer a solution off the top of your head. This takes immense skills and vast experience.

    13. Re:Looking at TFA's graph... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The most I got out of it was that you need to by physically larger to earn more money. According to the graph, smaller people make less money.

      haha

  6. Another useless survey by filesiteguy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Like others have reported, this survey is pretty much useless. An IT manager making $150/year in silicon valley is on the poor side, while one in - say, Lincoln Nebraska - would be very well off.

    Same goes for the other numbers. Yes, they are relative, but do not take into account regional differences.

    1. Re:Another useless survey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Those numbers look about right to me, but I'm in SE Michigan which is about average for IT jobs.

    2. Re:Another useless survey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Like others have reported, this survey is pretty much useless.

      Useless to you people in Silicone Valley. The rest of us (The majority) it's actually quite useful.

      Please stop thinking Silicone Valley is the center of the universe. It's not. It's a weird place in the middle of a reality distortion field. You people banned fur for gods sake!

    3. Re:Another useless survey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Silicone Valley might be somewhere else, Vegas maybe?

    4. Re:Another useless survey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Silicone Valley might be somewhere else, Vegas maybe?

      No, check out the beaches in California and you'd see plenty of silicone ;)

    5. Re:Another useless survey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How's that bay view apartment working out?

  7. Info sec looks low to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Weâ(TM)re paying quite a bit more than that and still having a hard time getting candidates and weâ(TM)re nationwide

    1. Re:Info sec looks low to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is you're getting a bunch of ex-military people going "infosec" since they seem to think that the knowledge of firing a rifle applies to computers since "security" is in the job description. Soldiers know security, right? You see a lot of ads for diploma mills targeting vets for infosec. It ends up lowering the salaries for everyone in the field and makes it damn near impossible to find useful people.

    2. Re:Info sec looks low to me by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Uh, there are 200,000 projected job openings for information security in the next few years. Those people are going to have to come from _somewhere_.

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    3. Re:Info sec looks low to me by mikael · · Score: 1

      I guess they have knowledge of military procedures, standards, procurement processes and how the bureaucracy works (or doesn't).

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    4. Re:Info sec looks low to me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah that doesn't qualify them for shit. You could learn that sort of shit in 2 weeks.
      What they do have is a security clearance. So people take what they can get and then these tools hire each other.
      For the record I'm former military and wasn't impressed by the technicians I encountered. Some of the officers know their shit but you should never hire an officer who wasn't enlisted first.
      They're extremely political and will think nothing of stabbing you in the back. If they're cool to you just remember they're trained to believe shitting on underlings is not only a right, it's necessary to maintain good order and discipline. Every officer has witnessed serious criminal activity from other officers and if they have a career, they chose to allow it.

      Former enlisted officers less so.

  8. Re:Why did BSD die? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Forget Theo, blame Thanos.

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    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  10. New question: what is the salary of Jesus? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hate them that are managing numbers of salaries.

    "God bless America"
    was invented by false and unknown prophet.

    "America must bless Jesus, son of God and Mary"
    is invented by me.

    1. Re:New question: what is the salary of Jesus? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I pay my gardener 5 bucks an hour. But his name is Jose, Jesus is his brother, he's a car mechanic.

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  11. Pay went DOWN since 2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's showing a programmer making $51.30/hour or $106,710/year (I'm assuming that's as a W-2 salary and benefits.)

    I was a programmer in 2000 making $75K with benefits or $37.50/hour. (Metro Atlanta) That's $54.88/hour in todays money that's $109,760 a year. And according that website, the cumulative rate of inflation was 46% since then.

    And the salaries for other things have fell behind too. I remember project managers getting over 90K back then.
    I wasn't in Silicon Valley or anything, either.

    I would expect much larger increases if there was truly a tech talent shortage.

    1. Re:Pay went DOWN since 2000 by HornWumpus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Put 2000 in context. The first dotcom bubble was going real strong in 2000. The most incompetent people I've ever seen warm seats were doing it in 2000, for fat bank.

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    2. Re:Pay went DOWN since 2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Big company you've heard of, not in Silicon Valley. We're hiring kids fresh out of college at $80k/yr (W2 total). Senior devs start at $140k, and can exceed $230k without needing to be in management/leadership. This includes software devs and various other engineering disciplines.

    3. Re:Pay went DOWN since 2000 by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      I remember back then a good many dot-com's merely gave stock options on top of rather ordinary salaries.

    4. Re:Pay went DOWN since 2000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sears?

    5. Re:Pay went DOWN since 2000 by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      You can't compare bubble salaries to normal times. In 2000 we made like half a million for a three month project, and this was us 3 students with barely any experience and zero reputation. You think you could land something like that today?

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  12. Re:Why did BSD die? by macker · · Score: 1

    Too many people read the acronym as Blue Screen of Death...

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  13. Searched in vain for "Software Engineer"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As most companies, cash in hand, do, in my area.
    (Search in vain for experienced Sofware Engineering talent, that is)

    Fresh-out-of-school Electrical or Computer Engineering majors walk in the door at $75K around here.

    What's wrong with this picture?

    1. Re:Searched in vain for "Software Engineer"... by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with this picture? I still get contacts from contractor recruiters that want to pay software engineers $40/hr, significantly less than I'm already making...

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    2. Re:Searched in vain for "Software Engineer"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Recruiters are hired to find people for jobs that are hard to fill. Maybe that is because the salaries are low for the area, the jobs has niche skills, or the company engages in offshoring work, or uses out of date technology. A job that is hard to fill is a job that is hard to leave.

  14. Re:Why did BSD die? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too many people read the acronym as Blue Screen of Death...

    Well, we all know that THAT particular BSD will never die!

  15. i wanna work so as comp sci engineer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about winning much money in less hours?

    Point #1: Instead of working 8hr/day (or 12hr/day as undomesticated dog), i want to work 2hr/day. By example, to be TV presenter and to win much money for my salary.

    Point #2: i want to retire my jobs for another better jobs. By example, i want to be baseball player or rugby player or basketball player, from worse team to better team.

    Point #3: i wanna work as slave badly paid.

    1. Re:i wanna work so as comp sci engineer. by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      You could try being a stripper, but I doubt if you have the looks for it...

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  16. Paper pushers get paid more than I do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm an electronics tech and are expected to have a wide range of technical skills and experience, yet I don't get paid as much as some of these entry-level paper-pushers? Fuck my life, fuck Kelly OCG, fuck this gay-ass tech industry, and fuck this gay-ass world, there ain't no justice.

  17. Bullpussy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude, if you're gonna brag as AC, at least name drop the company. They aren't going to know who the fuck you are. Since you didn't, I'm calling bullshit.

  18. Re:Why did BSD die? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    BSD Crossing the Bar

    Sunset and evening star,
    And one clear call for me!
    And may there be no moaning of the bar,
    When BSD puts out to sea,

    But such a tide as moving seems asleep,
    Too full for sound and foam,
    When that which drew from out the boundless deep
    Turns again home.

    Twilight and evening bell,
    And after that the dark!
    And may there be no sadness of farewell,
    When BSDs embark;

    For tho' from out our bourne of Time and Place
    The flood may bear me far,
    I hope to see my Pilot face to face
    When BSD has crost the bar.

  19. That guy that drives the septic tank pump truck? by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    He makes twice as much as I do, for pretty much the same job. I'm a software engineer.

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  20. Re:That guy that drives the septic tank pump truck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He makes twice as much as I do, for pretty much the same job. I'm a software engineer.

    That's the opposite job. He cleans up crap. Software engineers spew it forth.

  21. Re: Why did BSD die? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Macker.

  22. Innumeracy by rogerz · · Score: 1

    The fact that this ridiculous "graph" was used to present the data, instead of a simple table, tells you all that you need to know about the mathematical/statistical knowledge of the presenter. The visual format adds literally 0 information. Other commenters cover the details of the myriad fallacies. I want my 5 minutes back.

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  23. Re:Why did BSD die? by f3rret · · Score: 2

    Well, it's sorta purple these days, so strictly speaking the blue screen is dead.

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  24. IT != Tech Sector by phaserbanks · · Score: 1

    When did "tech sector" stop including the semiconductor and electronics industries?

    Anyway here's the real list.
    Best paid: CEO
    Worst paid: Intern
    Highest hourly rate: That omniscient guy down the hall who's been with the company since before you were born.