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EU Slaps $130 Million Fine on Four Electronics Firms For Fixing Online Prices (cnbc.com)

The European Commission imposed a fine of 111 million euros ($130 million) on four consumer electronic firms Tuesday, for fixing prices on their resold items. From a report: Asus, Denon & Marantz, Philips and Pioneer all limited the ability of online retailers to price items as they saw fit. The four manufacturers apparently threatened or sanctioned the online retailers who wouldn't comply with their price suggestions. "These well-known manufacturers of consumer electronics, they put pressure on online retailers to maintain higher prices. They did so during a period from 2011 and 2015," Margrethe Vestager, the European competition commissioner, said in a press conference Tuesday. "As a result of the actions taken by these four companies, millions of European consumers faced higher prices for kitchen appliances, hair dryers, notebook computers, headphones and many other products," Vestager said, adding that this behavior is "illegal under EU antitrust rules."

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  1. It's just business as usual... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If price fixing nets more than $130 million in additional profit, stay the course!

    1. Re:It's just business as usual... by mjwx · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If price fixing nets more than $130 million in additional profit, stay the course!

      This is what the other side of the pond doesn't understand about the EU... You treat fines as a one off thing. They aren't. Its 100 million Euro now... but if you don't stop it'll be 300 million Euro extra. The fines are obviously a slap on the wrist compared to what they made from the crime, but that's on purpose to discourage them from retaliatory action (like raising prices). However there is a very clear message that says next time, the slap wont be on the wrist with the EU.

      Fines are there to discourage illegal business practices... but not to discourage business.

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    2. Re:It's just business as usual... by Calydor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're absolutely right.

      Businesses should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want with no one ever holding them accountable.

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    3. Re:It's just business as usual... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Putting repeat fines (we usually call them taxes, but...)

      Thank you for telling us within the first 8 words that you don't know what you are talking about, allowing us to avoid wasting time reading everything else you wrote.

    4. Re:It's just business as usual... by houghi · · Score: 4, Informative

      The fines in Europe are not fixed. They look at the profit that has been made.

      A similar thing would result in different fines for other companies, depending on how much they made of it. And rest asured, they did not make any money of it.

      Oh and givbing millions to each side in politics? First: that is not that easy in Europe and secondly, do you have ANY ideas how many parties there are in Europe? Hint: It is more than two and there are much more sides than just 2.

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  2. id not understand by houghi · · Score: 4, Informative

    I read /. there are always people who claim th EU just tsxrs US companies. Oh wait. I live in Europe and do iunderstand that the EU is not after US companies, but after those that break the law.
    Correlation is not causation.

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  3. Re:Isn't this common in consumer electronics retai by monkeyxpress · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No, it's most definitely not common. Almost every country I know off prevents this sort of retail price control by a manufacturer - it is a key part of competition law. That's why when you see the manufacturer list a price it always qualifies it with 'recommended'. They cannot force a retailer to sell it at that price.

    I totally understand why these manufacturers were engaging in this activity though. I had the same issue with a specialists electronics company I ran a few years back. Basically, our retailers all started on about 40% margin because they provided a lot of sales effort and after-sales support for the product. They would pay attention to common problems, allocate a staff member to understand the product deeply so they could help the customer, translate guides, hold spare parts etc. We had a network of geographically separate dealers that served us and the customers well. Then online turned up, followed by the GFC, and some of the more desperate dealers started to target customers in other dealer's areas by cutting price. This basically created a blood bath, where dealer margins fell to about 20-25%.

    The problem is that along with these price reductions, all the dealers basically became really rubbish at supporting the customer. We had to take over a lot of that support work, and eventually had to push our own prices to cover it (as did our competitors). It was quite frustrating really, because in the end the customer didn't really get a discount, nor each participant more profit. All that happened is we had to take over the distribution and support services ourselves and the retailers become nothing more than online store fronts.

    The next inevitable step would have been direct sales from the manufacturer, but I left the business before we got to that.

    In the end, I'm not sure customers got a better 'deal' out of the whole thing, but it sure made running what started as a design and manufacturing business a lot more complicated.

  4. Re:This is actual illegal behaviour by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You know, most European countries calculate their fines based on your wealth rather than a "flat" fee. The idea is that you don't just get to flaunt your contempt for the law if you're rich because a fine of 500 bucks that would be crippling for someone who makes 1000 a month is pennies for someone who makes millions in bonus payments alone.

    So you might want to be careful where you speed, thinking that you can easily pay any fine since you're rich...

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