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364 Idaho Inmates Hacked Their Prison Tablets For Free Credits (bleepingcomputer.com)

According to local Idaho media, 364 inmates across at least five institutions exploited a vulnerability in their prison-issued tablets to assign nearly $225,000 worth of digital credits to their accounts. They were then able to use these credits to buy music and games. Bleeping Computer reports: The hacked tablets have been used at low-security level prisons across the U.S. for a few years now. They've been offered through a partnership between CenturyLink and JPay. Spokespersons for both companies said the vulnerability inmates exploited was identified and fixed. Officials from the Idaho Department of Correction (IDC) said there was no loss of state funds as a result of the hack, as inmates transferred only JPay-managed (fictitious) digital credits to their accounts. Most inmates transferred small amounts of credits to their tablet accounts. JPay said it recovered more than $65,000 worth of digital credits from the 364 inmate accounts. The company has suspended the ability to buy games and music via digital credits on the tablets of offending inmates. Email functionality was left intact, and the company plans to recover the incurred losses.

92 comments

  1. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Good job. Let the prison-industrial complex take it on the chin for once.

    1. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So anal sex with lubricant on a 70 year old man turns you on.

      You should rename yourself to senior analyzer, fake beau.

    2. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. Especially when he has a phat bootay like Drumpf!

  2. Fictitious digital credits... by gavron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > ...fictitious digital credits...

    > ...company plans to recover the losses...

    Yes, that should take about a minute since $0 = $0.

    E

    1. Re:Fictitious digital credits... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they'll try to recover loss of expected future profit on the fictitious digital credits.

    2. Re:Fictitious digital credits... by EETech1 · · Score: 1

      To listen to music?
      Oh, they'll be paid.
      Remember where that money goes to!

      They'll just add some more time for bad behavior, and make the prisoners work it off for $0.10 an hour after they're back on the low risk unit.

  3. Idaho? Even has a prison? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    What'd they do, steal a spud or two? What the fuck is there to do in Idaho? What kind of name is Idaho for a state anyway? Let's forget about Idaho and talk about Wyoming. What kind of name is Wyoming for a state anyway? Now, Montana. That's a state! And what a name!

  4. In case anybody's wondering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Tablets in prisons make correctional officers and managers happy. Inmates maintain community ties, they have something to do with their time, and like any privilege that can be taken away it's a tool the administration can use to control behavior.

    1. Re:In case anybody's wondering by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Lol, maybe on a single inmate level, when inmate fucks up and gets sent to ad-seg. If they were to try to take them all away at once, there would be riots. thats like when warden williams tried to take everyones tv's away here at HDCC it didnt turn out very well for the institution.

    2. Re:In case anybody's wondering by PPH · · Score: 1

      it's a tool the administration can use to control behavior

      I'd mod you up. But Slashdot admins haven't given me any points.

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  5. Criminals are hackers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I always thought it was the other way around.

  6. If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the whole thing makes it seem like they did something horrible, when all they did was game the system to get some more games and music to pass the time with. I'm not opposed to that either. Prison shouldn't be about punishment, it should either be about containment (e.g. folks so dangerous we can't have them running the streets) or reform. Anything else is just sadism.

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    1. Re:If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by mspohr · · Score: 4, Informative

      It looks like this whole system is a scam to suck money from the inmates. Probably very high charges for pad rental, email, games, etc. Good to see them striking back to free the system.

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    2. Re:If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Prison shouldn't be about punishment, it should either be about containment (e.g. folks so dangerous we can't have them running the streets) or reform. Anything else is just sadism.

      I disagree. Prison is supposed to do 4 things:

      - punish the offender
      - protect society from the offender
      - deter other people from committing crimes
      - rehabilitate the offender

      #1 & #2 are easy to do, but #3 & #4 are much harder.

    3. Re:If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the whole thing makes it seem like they did something horrible, when all they did was game the system to get some more games and music to pass the time with. I'm not opposed to that either. Prison shouldn't be about punishment, it should either be about containment (e.g. folks so dangerous we can't have them running the streets) or reform. Anything else is just sadism.

      Prison is not just about containment, it is about PUNISHMENT and DETERENT. IF prison is kinda an OK life but contained then a shitload more people would find the concept of going to prison less of a deterent "fuck I am poor and can barely aford to survive, may as well risk an armed robbery as worst that happens is I get contained but with more luxuries than I can afford now"

    4. Re: If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You provided no reason for your list of 4 things prison âshouldâ do. You just said it.

      I should it âoeshouldâ just be about #2 and #4. Iâ(TM)m providing as much objective reasoning as you did. (none at all).

    5. Re: If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by TimMD909 · · Score: 1

      Very, very well said.

    6. Re: If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by Calydor · · Score: 1

      You also provide no sense. You should it should?

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    7. Re:If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      Some things you missed:
      - generate profits
      - give puritanical nutbags a hard-on

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    8. Re:If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      mod parent up! My points always disappear the moment I want them.

    9. Re:If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree. Prison is supposed to do 4 things:

      - punish the offender
      - protect society from the offender
      - deter other people from committing crimes
      - rehabilitate the offender

      What is the purpose of the punishment?
      It is clearly not a deterrent, you listed that separately.
      It is not to teach the criminal a lesson, that part of rehabilitation.

      Is it for your enjoyment? That doesn't seem reasonable to me.
      Vengeance doesn't belong into the justice system.
      That leads to a situation where the sentence takes the victims wishes into consideration which in turn leads to a situation where the law is applied differently on different people.
      We don't want a system that encourages criminals to go after good people willing to forgive more than vengeful bastards.

    10. Re:If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But American prisons are all about punishment and being a slave. And Americans love it.

    11. Re: If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2

      You clearly have no experience with or understanding of the law. Victim statements are considered prior to sentencing so they already have a say, and the law is applied radically differently and sometimes not at all. ... Or haven't you noticed fuckface von clownstick breaking laws left and right with impunity as he rapes and pillages the USA?

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    12. Re:If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 1

      the whole thing makes it seem like they did something horrible, when all they did was game the system to get some more games and music to pass the time with. I'm not opposed to that either. Prison shouldn't be about punishment, it should either be about containment (e.g. folks so dangerous we can't have them running the streets) or reform. Anything else is just sadism.

      I agree with the sentiment. Our prison systems are more about crushing the person rather than containment or reform.

      I would actually think that this incident should provide an opportunity to gauge these inmates' skills and see if we can use that energy towards giving them additional skills (and help them reform and reintegrate into society with a chance to get a job.)

    13. Re: If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by EEMac · · Score: 0

      Or haven't you noticed fuckface von clownstick breaking laws

      This is clearly a rant from an alternate timeline. Hillary _lost_ the election here.

    14. Re: If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      America has the highest incarceration rate in the world. We imprison 4 times as many people per capita as China, Russia, and Iran. We spend the most, yet we have one of the worst recidivism rates.

      Unless someone is a physical danger to society, there should be an alternative punishment, such as wearing an ankle tracker while cleaning bedpans at a nursing home for 60 hours per week. We could cut our inmate population by 75%.

    15. Re: If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      That is not correct. You aren't educated enough to comment obviously.

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    16. Re: If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Donald Trump left a deuce in my shoe!

    17. Re: If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bingo.

      Hillary WON the election, by nearly 3 million votes.

      Winning the election just did her (and the country) no good, because the system is broken.

    18. Re:If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you seriously think that's a problem (it isn't, and you're an idiot for thinking it) then the solution is easy.

      A universal basic income. guaranteed housing, and free healthcare will utterly eliminate that motivation.

      And those are things we should do anyway.

    19. Re: If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      #1 comes from putting the prisoner in prison - loss of freedom of movement, loss of personal space, restricted communication
      #3 comes from #1

    20. Re:If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by mikael · · Score: 1

      That's what we joke about in the UK. In prison, by law, all cells must be heated to a comfortable temperature, and the food provided must accommodate religious beliefs. In the rea lworld, pensioners have to choose between heating their homes and getting proper nutrition.

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    21. Re: If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by mspohr · · Score: 1

      https://boingboing.net/2018/07...
      Here's the scam. From Cory Doctorow

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    22. Re:If it's funny money can we drop the $ signs by mjwx · · Score: 1

      I prefer the sign !$ for funny money. Australian telco's had (probably still have) a "funny money" system for determining your quotas. Instead of saying $20 gets you X minutes and Y texts, they'd say $20 gets you $200 of calls, $500 of texts. Of course there'd be no relationship between the actual dollar value and the imaginary dollar value.

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  7. Re:Low security indeed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TFS sounds like intranet. Emails would be relayed given that they're surely being inspected. Maybe even by an occasional human.

  8. Re:Trump will hang either way by Tulsa_Time · · Score: 1

    Can we keep the Russian Trolls off the site please?

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  9. Re:Low security indeed! by vux984 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Allowing internet access to convicted criminals is NEVER a good idea!"

    A felony DUI (for example, injuring a passenger while drunk driving, or prior DUI convictions, or their being kids in the car) will easily get you jail time, and deservedly so.

    But there is no threat to society in him having access to the internet while serving time.

  10. Re:Low security indeed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Her. No threat from her. Women are far more likely to be drunk behind the wheel with a kid. I know, I was the kid.

  11. Re:Low security indeed! by godel_56 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Since these are low security prisons, prisoners should be allowed to watch TV in several lounges, listen to an AM/FM radio in their cells, and use a land-line phone for a few minutes a day. Other than that, they should have access to carefully selected books, and newspapers. No internet access at all, not even email.

    Allowing internet access to convicted criminals is NEVER a good idea!

    Email is the modern replacement for snail mail so prisoners should have some access to it. However all their emails, except to and from their lawyers, should be monitored.

    For maximum security prisons, prisoners should get a few minutes a week on a land-line phone.

    Also you seem to have missed all the exploitative practices regarding prison supplied phone services

  12. Criminals steal stuff. Surprise! by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    So they gave tablets with weak security to inmates at a prison.

    And the tablets had a mechanism to buy services - music, games, etc.

    And 364 convicts broke the security and stole services - an average of $618 worth each, as much as $11,000 in one case.

    Why is this surprising?

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    1. Re: Criminals steal stuff. Surprise! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not even just weak security, try *no* security. Apparently the app that provides the services to the inmates stored both the item prices and the inmates account balance in a SQLite database stored ON THE DEVICE ITSELF, and the app didn't check a central server to verify transactions.

      Fucking amateur hour.

  13. Re:Idaho? Even has a prison? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm a dental floss tycoon.

  14. Re:Low security indeed! by nnet · · Score: 0

    But there is no threat to society in him having access to the internet while serving time.

    And we're ever so thankful you're not a judge, and your statement has no case law to back it.

  15. Re:Trump will hang either way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it was a Russian troll they'd be pro-Trump. Nice try, Ivan.

  16. Good for them by wolfheart111 · · Score: 1

    It must have been some harmless fun, lord knows they need it.

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  17. Re:Low security indeed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Since these are low security prisons, prisoners should be allowed to watch TV on their tablets, listen to internet radio in their cells, and use a cell phone whenever they want. Other than that, they should have access to any books, and newspapers they want. 24 hour internet access, especially email. For maximum security prisons, prisoners should get the same.

    Allowing internet access to convicted criminals is ALWAYS a good idea!

    FTFY, you fascist asshole.

  18. You always thought wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Hacking" used to be completely orthogonal to criminality.

    Now it's a standard scareword and will mean whatever the idiots using it say it means this time. This "editor" and this "news source" are serial abusers of the word, but they're not in prison so it must be alright.

    1. Re:You always thought wrong by Desler · · Score: 1

      Hacker has been used as a label for a criminal for multiple decades. Move on, neckbeard, no one cares that hacker meant something different to the 70s MIT AI lab programmers.

    2. Re:You always thought wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Instead of resorting to name calling, you might dust off that woefully underused brain of yours for once. The problem isn't that the word used to have a definite meaning quite at odds with current usage.

      The problem is that it no longer has any meaning at all, certainly nothing clearly unambiguously defined. It's a scareword without meaning. That ends you up in wonderland, like thus:

      ``When I use a word,'' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, ``it means what I choose it to mean. Neither more nor less.''
      ``The question is,'' said Alice, ``whether you can make words mean so many different things.''
      ``The question is,'' said Humpty Dumpty, ``who is to be master. That is all.''
      -- Lewis Carroll

      This is how kids reading maintenance test numbers out of installation manuals for ATMs come to call themselves ``hacker''. Because they typed a number from a manual in a number pad, you see. So something mildly unusual happened. ``hacker''. Whoo.

      It means that those who are master are multiple decade inveterate idiots. They get to set the meaning but they have no meaning to set. Except the meta-meaning, ``we are idiots and we assume you are too''. Congratulation, idiot.

    3. Re:You always thought wrong by Desler · · Score: 0

      Cool story, neckbeard.

    4. Re:You always thought wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Har.

    5. Re:You always thought wrong by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      well arent you a bitter old cunt.

  19. Crime Stopper by Ferocitus · · Score: 3, Funny

    All prisoners should be forced to read random Facebook posts and Twitter feeds
    all day. Recidivists must also watch all Trending vids on youtube.

    So, tough guy, are you really sure you want to hold up that liquor store?

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  20. $17 for a 15-minute local phone call by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    $17 for a 15-minute local phone call it about time for rates to come down.

  21. Re:Trump will hang either way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fuck off ivan

  22. Re:Trump will hang either way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    _________
    | Prison | | |
    ------layer of earth--------

    (6 feet or more)

    X Trump's obese traitor corpse

  23. They did by rsilvergun · · Score: 1, Troll

    under Obama. Trump raised them again...

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  24. Re:Idaho? Even has a prison? by fafalone · · Score: 1

    What the fuck is there to do in Idaho?

    Drugs. And then what else are police going to do? Only 0.6% of Idaho's population is black, so harassing black people only occupies so much of their time. What's better than the low hanging fruit of drug users, especially in a state that's rabidly anti-pot, lacking even any form of medical marijuana use.

  25. Re:Low security indeed! by rtb61 · · Score: 0

    Nope sorry. You are being isolated from the rest of human society, in what should be an educational facility, a reform school for adults (seriously, fail and you do not get out). That means those outside should not have to deal with you in any way at all, not personally and not via the internet. The law should be, no prisoner is allowed to initiate communications with the outside world and can only receive communications from the outside world.

    They all should have the exact same access to content, no one gets extra and all the content, movies, games, tv should be required to promote rehabilitation, so an emphasis on socially corrective games and a ban on all aggressive games, same for all other content. They are free to be reducated and not free to entertain themselves.

    Rehabilitation should also include the appropriate pharmaceuticals where required. Keeping in mind prison are required by law to be safe for correctional services officers and prisoners alike. Clearly no enough is done to prosecute correctional services when they fail to secure their prison and keep them safe. Any crime committed in prison is a major fuck up, they should be zero crime facilities.

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  26. Jpay is /evil/ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jpay is a company built on exploiting inmates. They make Uber look like saints.

  27. Re:Low security indeed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lick that boot fash!

  28. Re:Criminals steal stuff. Surprise! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They'll likely all get the hole and extra time - exactly what those running the system wanted to happen. It's called a honey trap. Those morons would have never caught it if they didn't know ahead of time.

  29. Re:Idaho? Even has a prison? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would anyone harass blacks? You risk getting AIDS that way, more than by sharing needles even.
    Quite illogical and irrational.

  30. Re:Criminals steal stuff. Surprise! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Luckily the things they "stole" doesn't have any tangible monetary value so the the "victim" didn't actually miss the money.
    You could easily correct the issue by deleting the files and it isn't destruction of property.

    Or, since the price is set differently for different markets, you could just revalue it to $0 for prison inmates and then there is no monetary damage.

  31. Re: Criminals steal stuff. Surprise! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    As in designed to be trivially hacked perhaps?

  32. Re:Low security indeed! by fafalone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're advocating all these reform and rehabilitation classes, but fail to realize how less likely to succeed at them inmates are when you crack down so hard on entertainment and communication. You want to confine them to educational/rehabilitative material every waking hour? And take away incentives to behave? Maintaining strong ties with family and partners has been shown to be more effective at reducing recidivism and disciplinary issues, limiting that is both sadistic and directly contravenes the goal of rehabilitation.
    Honestly it sounds like you're trying to reconcile an intellectual desire to rehabilitate with an emotional desire to inflict punishment. Everything you suggested depriving inmates of makes rehab much less possible, as does that being the only content available. Not to mention the soul crushing level of supervision and restriction that would be required to have a go at your 'zero crime' fantasy that seems to include the trivial like this story. The prison system you're advocating will leave people so dehumanized and demoralized that all the rehabilitation programs in the world won't prevent the sky high recidivism when they get out and act like the animals you treated them like.
    Have a look at the statistics, at what types of prisons result in the lowest recidivism: it's the ones that treat inmates like humans, and offer priveleges like entertainment access, computer/internet access, and keep them integrated with their families and community. Taking all that away and replacing it with nothing but edu/rehab games/movies/programs around the clock is sadistic and trying to call it a 'reform school' is an ironic joke.

  33. Re:Idaho? Even has a prison? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    we miss you fz, you would have enjoyed the current state of the entertainment branch

  34. Re:Low security indeed! by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    I agree, when I was in(not for a crime as petty nor as safe as DUI) I was in there with DUI offenders. 3rd dui = manditory 1 year in prison in nevada. I felt bad for most of those guys. They were completely out of their element there. And it has to be rough mentally. There are things that you see there that you can never unsee. Things they would never have seen otherwise. Sometimes they even get caught up in some bullshit and end up getting fucked over or worse beaten raw because they dont understand the environment. I dont think DUI offenders should be incarcerated with the likes of the rest of the murderers, robbers, and violent offenders.

  35. Posting AC to preserve moderation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FWIW, retribution (punishment) can help provide closure to victims.

    1. Re: Posting AC to preserve moderation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only here victims have no say in such punishment. Therefore, such "closure" cannot be possible.

      Nevertheless, you are just a sadist projecting.

  36. Re:Low security indeed! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    No internet access at all, not even email. For maximum security prisons, prisoners should get a few minutes a week on a land-line phone.

    Nonsense. Social interaction decreases recidivism. It should be encouraged. Nearly all of these people are going to reenter society someday.

  37. Re: Low security indeed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think is the most well thought out / articulate comment I ever read on slashdot

  38. Re: Criminals steal stuff. Surprise! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd say that's a distinct possibility.

  39. Re: Low security indeed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They don't have internet access... Look before you leap...

    They are tablets to facilitate profits in the form of super inflated music and game sales to forced customers with no other choice of vendor.

    Email is provided through a relay for some probably insane price 2.50 or 5

  40. Re:Idaho? Even has a prison? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aren't people allowed to be rabidly anti-pot if they want to? Or does everyone have to agree with you, else they're horrible monsters?

  41. Here's a thought: books. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's a thought: books. Maybe magazines or comic-books for the illiterate.

    Much cheaper. Far less danger of misuse.

    Damage the book or other reading material - lose your privileges.
    Keep acting up - solitary.
    Keep acting up - bread and water.
    Keep acting up - forced labor.
    Keep acting up - medicated.
    Keep acting up - execution.

    Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

    1. Re:Here's a thought: books. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This comment proves you're ignorant of the prison system and exemplifies the wholesale dehumanization of inmates, regardless of their crime.

      Understand that laws are arbitrary rules drafted by humans. There is nothing special or holy about them, aside from the threat of violence for not following them.

      "Civilization" is anything but civilized.

  42. And this proves... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... What we all knew all along: hackers are not geniuses but criminals. Their "skills" are actually quite mundane, their knowledge easily obtainable, any small-time street thug can do what they do. Society must understand that hackers are not misguided otherwise intelligent individuals, but average and below-average good-at-nothings whose abilities we will not miss. They must be ostracized and prosecuted. Parents: if your kids show any interest in "hacking", notify a counselor and have any computing equipment they have access to confiscated. Stop hackers now.

  43. Re:Trump will hang either way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you'd vote to further tarnish and ruin this country to get back at a fellow countryman, then you deserve it when war reaches our soil and nobody helps you.

  44. Re:Idaho? Even has a prison? by fafalone · · Score: 1

    If they personally want to be, of course that's fine. Inflicting the greater harm of prohibition on other people, including non-users impacted on two ends from black market issues and civil rights loss, however, does indeed make them 'horrible monsters'. It's sadomoralism: inflicting greater harm on everyone to send a moral message than the harm that would exist if you simply allowed the activity and provided education, treatment, and rehab. It extends to all drugs, but pot is by far the most egregiously awful since it lacks the physical harm and addiction of hard drugs.

  45. Jobs in IT Security, anyone? by I75BJC · · Score: 1

    Wow! People with time on their hands can conquer just about anything. Kids and Criminals. Maybe these convicts have potential with the DOD. A recent story said that the DOD can't find & hire enough Cyber-Warriors to meet their needs. Right now these convicts are under Government authority and control. I'll bet any of them would jump at the chance to leave prison and work for the USA Federal Government. What a missed opportunity by the DOD. Regrettably, most will return after committing more crimes or run for office and become politicians. It's a real opportunity for the DOD to rehabilitation these convicts and keep them out of our Legislative Houses.

  46. Re:Idaho? Even has a prison? by I75BJC · · Score: 1

    That's Funny! If I had mod points, I would mod you up as "funny".

  47. Still posting AC to preserve moderation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems like you're kind of stupid. Maybe Slashdot's not for you.

    1. Only here victims have no say in such punishment.

    I don't know where your "here" is, but in the United States (where this article originates) victims often DO have a right to speak or submit a statement to the court prior to sentencing.

    2. Therefore, such "closure" cannot be possible.

    Well, no, that doesn't follow, at all. Victims consistently report that seeing the offender punished helps them to let go and move on. This is completely independent of them providing input to the sentencing. The two are not causally related.

    3. Nevertheless, you are just a sadist projecting.

    Again, no. I never said it was good to punish people, I merely reported one of the outcomes of that punishment. In point of fact, I am an ex-con, and I was once the one being punished. I take NO pleasure in the pain of others.

    One of us is projecting, but it isn't me.

  48. STILL posting AC to preserve moderation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, I have WAY TOO MUCH experience with the law. Also, a better-than-layman's understanding of it.

    You said:

    Victim statements are considered prior to sentencing so they already have a say

    Nobody said they didn't. WTF are you talking about? I said retribution helps victims feel closure. This happens whether they submit statements or not. It is almost universally reported.

    You also said:

    the law is applied radically differently and sometimes not at all.

    Which has fuck all to do with my statement. When someone gets robbed, they feel better if they see the robber get punished.

    Or haven't you noticed fuckface von clownstick breaking laws left and right with impunity as he rapes and pillages the USA?

    Okay, one more time. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY STATEMENT ABOVE.

    It is ironic to me that you started your incorrect and irrelevant observation about me with the word 'clearly'. Somehow I suspect you often mistake error for clarity.

  49. Lemme ask a dumb question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let me just ask a possibly stupid question here...

    Why are prisoners getting tablets to begin with? Most people who live in my community can't afford the school-mandated tablets already. Why is taxpayer money being wasted on buying tablets for prisoners while low income parents in my own neighborhood can't buy the tablets for their children that the government requires them to buy?

    Seems stupid and wrong to me.