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Pentagon Creates 'Do Not Buy' List of Russian, Chinese Software (defenseone.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Defense One: The Pentagon is warning the military and its contractors not to use software it deems to have Russian and Chinese connections, according to the U.S. Defense Department's acquisition chief. Officials have begun circulating a "Do Not Buy" list of software that does not meet "national security standards," Ellen Lord, defense undersecretary for acquisition and sustainment, said Friday. The Pentagon started compiling the list about six months ago. Suspicious companies are put on a list that is circulated to the military's software buyers. Now the Pentagon is working with the three major defense industry trade associations -- the Aerospace industries Association, National Defense Industrial Association and Professional Services Council -- to alert contractors small and large. Lord said defense officials have also been working with the intelligence community to identify "certain companies that do not operate in a way consistent with what we have for defense standard." Asked if programs and weapons were compromised by foreign software, Lord said, "These are more widespread issues. I don't think we're focused on one particular system."

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  1. Software you can trust! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Great to know, a list of software that doesn't contain US government sanctioned backdoors. If the Pentagon doesn't like it, then you can be 99% sure it values your privacy and doesn't harvest your private data.

    The irony, is that i might sound like a troll, but this is the truth.

    1. Re:Software you can trust! by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "If the Pentagon doesn't like it, then you can be 99% sure it values your privacy and doesn't harvest your private data."

      False. All it means is that it doesn't hand it to US intelligence agencies.

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    2. Re: Software you can trust! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And you care why? Are you fighting the Chinese? I'm sure the Special Forces guys are all atremble because the Chinese have their fingerprints! OMG! Maybe they have fingerprint seeking bullets too!

      I feel much less threatened by spy establishments of other countries having my data than my government. Why?

      I'm not a defense contractor with secrets to steal. I'm just an everyday Joe like the vast majority of Americans. Those spy organizations are never going to bother with me.

      My government, on the other hand, could use my data to make sure I'm paying every penny I should on taxes or to enforce any number of ridiculous laws (given the breadth of our legal system today, nobody takes a breath without breaking some law). Wait till they start doing things like firing off automated speeding tickets using the data from our connected cars and then tell me who you need to fear - the bogeyman halfway around the world or the one here telling you to fear the bogeyman halfway around the world. The law enforcement groups don't won't backdoors in all devices just to use them on the really bad guys. Historically, anything they get to fight the really bad guys with gets used orders of magnitude more often on the more mundane folks.

  2. Re:Hey, Russia - if you're listening, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Global (outside of US) "Do Not Buy" List":
    * Microsoft
    * Apple
    * Google
    * Facebook (and other "Social Media"
    * Alexa / Cortana / next name "active" "smart" speaker/mic
    * "Cloud" services with any US-based nexus.

  3. It is 2018 by 110010001000 · · Score: 2

    Wait, it is 2018 and this list didn't exist already???

  4. US & Israel are always the GOOD GUYS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    US & Israel are good, always good, and will be good forever.

    On the other hand, China & Russia are bad, always bad, and will be bad forever.

    Stuxnet is good, but anything coming out of China / Russia is bad.

    Is that what you are saying??

    1. Re: US & Israel are always the GOOD GUYS? by houghi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I live in Europe. With China and Russia I know there is a difference between politics and the people. In the US the politicians are elected.
      So I rather live in Russia or China than in the US.

      I have visited the US (no, not all of it) and would not like to live in the 80-ies as that is where it looks like it has stopped evolving.

      Fun fact: when I landed in MJFK, the border control reminded me to my visit many years ago to East-Germany. Both inreason why, what and how. The efficiency was almost funny. When I finaly got a paper, i had to give it to the next guy 20 meters on. And all the while several people where sitting around and doing nothing.

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      Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
  5. Includes ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 2, Funny

    Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, Whatsapp, and other social media platforms that foreign countries contaminate with ad-buying.

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    It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
  6. Re:Part good and part stupid by bongey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Good little Chinese propaganda troll. China is many,many,many times more of threat than Russia.

  7. Re:A new definition for "walled garden".... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It’s not a wall, it’s anti-hacking by a foreign government. This is long overdue basic digital security for military secrets.

    Long overdue and still too relaxed.

  8. Re:Where's the ... by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 3, Informative

    This article says "The list identifying these companies will be made available to Pentagon's acquisitions staff, she further pointed out, without providing any further details." So, I'm assuming the list isn't finalized yet. TFA says "Now the Pentagon is working with the three major defense industry trade associations — the Aerospace industries Association, National Defense Industrial Association and Professional Services Council — to alert contractors small and large." My guess is that once it's formalized it will be released to the companies that are members of those associations first.

  9. Re:Zombies? by Alypius · · Score: 2

    Citation needed. We have always had legal immigration. Please cite your sources for the undocumented immigrants that contributed to the Apollo and Manhattan projects.

  10. Re:Zombies? by johanw · · Score: 2

    What value? More profit for the CEO's because they keep the wages low?