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Terraforming Might Not Work on Mars, New Research Says (discovermagazine.com)

Mars might not have the right ingredients to terraform into our planetary home away from home -- even with the recent discovery of liquid water buried near its south pole. From a report: Research published Monday in Nature Astronomy puts a kibosh on the idea of terraforming Mars. At the heart of the study is carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas, is abundant on Mars -- its thin atmosphere is made of the stuff, and the white stuff we often see on the surface is dry ice, not snow. CO2 is even trapped in the rocks and soil. That abundance has long fueled visions of a fantasy future where all that trapped carbon dioxide is released, creating a thicker atmosphere that warms the planet. SpaceX founder Elon Musk has even proposed nuking Mars to make this happen.

But in this new study, veteran Mars expert Bruce Jakosky of the University of Colorado Boulder and Christopher S. Edwards of Northern Arizona University, surveyed how much carbon dioxide is available for terraforming the Red Planet. They combined Martian CO2 observations from various missions -- NASA's MAVEN atmospheric probe, the European Space Agency's Mars Express orbiter, as well as NASA's Odyssey and the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. The results throw shade on the dreams of futurists.

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  1. They think small by spaceman375 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A few cometary impacts would change their numbers right quick. Equilibrium may be awhile, but still...

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    1. Re: They think small by Z00L00K · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You probably need to merge Mars and Io or some other sizable planet/moon to get the right conditions. Maybe move Venus to the Mars orbit and create a bi-planetary system like Terra/Luna.

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    2. Re: They think small by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There are many ways not to move Venus into a binary status with Mars. By a generous estimate, 10 of those ways provide some risk to earth. The math to avoid a risk with moving Venus is much easier than the engineering to move a planet in the first place.

    3. Re: They think small by MiniMike · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Maybe move Venus to the Mars orbit and create a bi-planetary system like Terra/Luna.

      If we had that level of technology, it would make more sense to move them to Earth orbit (in opposition to Earth, of course) and make a second Earth/Moon pair. A quick calculation shows that if we leave a safety margin of 10x the Moons orbit around each pair, we could fit 18 Earth/Moon pairs in the current Earth orbit. Jupiter is 318 times the mass of Earth and could provide what's needed (again, assuming sufficient technology). Could probably adjust the size/orbit of the new moons, or do something crazy like Earth/Earth pairs to fit more in, but that would probably mess with tides and make them less habitable. With the previously mentioned technology we could also fix the effects of these changes on the remaining plants.

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  2. Welp by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Instead of nuking Mars, send CO2 rich asteroids at it to serve as both the nuke and the additional nutrient.
    The simple stupid solutions are sometimes the best solutions. If it doesn't work it doesn't change a thing, if it works it changes a lot.

  3. Venus has always been a better target by FeelGood314 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At the correct altitude in the Venusian atmosphere you can have earth like temperature and pressure. You don't need 5m of concrete to protect you from the solar winds and you have all the ingredients to build everything you want there. You just can't stand on the surface today. If your colony is willing to float in huge balloons though then things are much much easier than Mars.

  4. Re:space nutters are nuts by Dread_ed · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is the only way to terraform. At least the first time. We need *experience*. No plan will survive first contact with the environment so why have one?

    I suggest throwing everything we can think of at the ol' red dustball and see what sticks. We need a foundation of microorganisms, the basic energy economy, over which we can layer and integrate successively higher life forms until we reach "food production." Once we have some little guys processing stuff and some respiration going on we can do some dart tossing with selected introductions and see if any of our predictions are accurate.

    In essence all we are trying to do is re-create an evolution story on another planet, albeit with already evolved organisms. Think of all the organisms on this planet as our toolbox. With them we can recapitulate (with some modifications due to the differences in the planets) the story of our own Earth's journey.

    I believe in panspermia. It's not an origin story. It's a policy.

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